@woody forrest ASR 10 swing? That sequencer is horrible. The 60 and the 3k are about the same. The difference is the accent (or the push on the 2 and 4). That’s what separates ever other swing. The PPQ can be the same but the accent (emphasis) is different on the MPC. Nobody gets that.
Man i am so thankful to have the newer MPC’s with touch screens i could not imagine having to use a screen like on these older machines. I could have had an MPC3000 back in the day but i decided not to just because of the screen lol so i continued producing on computer until i got the MPC Touch and then the MPC Live 2.
That's like comparing a classic muscle car to a modern EV. One is a work of art and engineering, collectible and admired for its looks and place in history. The other is soulless and boring but does the job and gets you from A to B, but has all the bells and whistles. Completely different markets for each and not comparable.
I miss when prices for these units were cheap on ebay back in the day (mpc 3000 for $900-1200, mpc 60 for $500-700). Wish I could replace the mpc 60 I used to have but prices are ridiculous now, at least the mpc 1000 is relatively the same price (even with jjos).
Studios had MPC60II back in the days. Pro drummers and beat makers had the 3000. The drummers who used the 3000 then still use it now. Trying to get any of them to part with theirs is like it's easier to pull teeth from a crocodile while it's awake. It's just not happening. I'm glad I got one in the end, no thanks to them. Not parting with mine either and I don't really need the 60II so much now although the sound and swing of the 60II and the 3000 is noticeably different.
Chris The Glove Taylor (Ice T Reckless, Firm Phone Tap) introduced Dr.Dre to the Mpc60ii which they used on the Chronic and Doggystyle everything after that was the Mpc3000
This was my 1st MPC!!! I was in a Studio in ATL messing with the 60 Series II & came home fiending for it like a addict... My MPC Ren is still running because it reminds me of it, with Digital I/O...👑✨👑
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I’m sorry anybody who knows music no I meant 2000 XL. It came out 3000 sorry about that but can anybody help me with this I’m trying to figure out which one to purchase which one is the best is the MPC 2000 XL a legit and professional machine to purchase.
@@lamarcraven2314 The 2000xl was the 3000 replacement. The XL is an much simpler MPC decently made cheaper, but a much faster unit.. The main difference besides sound is you can see the audio wave form
3000 Le just a paint job 2000 mode keys and numerical keypad same thing mode used with shift Expandable to 32 megs 3min stereo 6 mono sample time Waveform seen on screen user samples for time as opposed to real time Screen in fixed position / tilted on 2000xl Only 2 in /out midi Time clock 8 outs and effects optional upgrades Floppy needed to boot OS / later slot with OS on sd/or cf card Times Treach available on 2000xl but was a PIA Some functions had to be done on screen like quantize and metronome on off and time signature. 2000 had a 300hz bump as opposed to the 100 hz bump on 3000 . 2000 had note off function and used zone screen for chopping samples 3000 had to copy and truncate then repeat
Its timeless, I wouldn't splurge on the 3000 but I am contemplating the one or live. I have the studio just to wet whistle a little but I feel like it was a waste.
While your comparison between the MPC and SP is inevitable, the sequencer in the MPCs is a major difference. If not for that, I would've been more of a SP guy. Don't remember the 3000 being $4500.
@@SampleKingsVideos Can't argue with that. My boy was the SP1200 king that I knew. Rashad Smith. He used that while I used my own sequencer and keyboards to handle that part
@@mont-doggBeats it was mainly drummers and programmers who had them. I saw it and saw its price and didn't think about getting one. You had to be a pro to spend on one of them.
So much backstory on the invention of these machines. Hip Hop was the redhead step child of the music industry. “Everybody” did not love hip hop! It was frowned upon by 80% of the established music industry. So the devices used to make hip hop were frowned upon also. A pop band could use an MPC and nobody cared. Rappers? Oh no those machines are trash. They became associated with ghetto blackness. Especially by rock purest. Also… The only producers that were looking for that “dirty sound” were hip hop producers. So even after the MPs were selling, that SP stayed hot. The 950 put a stop to all that.
The first black star musician Louis Armstrong went thru the same thing, in fact all black music was frowned on for jazz to blues to Rock N Roll to R&B to Disco to Rap. Truth.
It is good but very outdated. It doesn’t even have a USB slot. Nobody in their right mind will use that if they wanna save themselves time now. Floppy disk is a no go. I now use The MPC 1000 with JJOS XL. It’s killing how the OS operated on the 3000.
Part of the reason the SP-1200 was able to outcompete the MPC60 was that the MPC was actually More hi-fi, at a moment in music when rap fans wanted to hear samples that "sounded like samples" - which was exactly what SP samples sounded like. Just as rap fans at first were taken with music that consisted solely of drum machine beats and sparse scratching - as a stark contrast to the over-lush production of mid-80s Top 40 and other genres, hip-hop listeners became equally fascinated by sampling when the technology became widely available to producers, and how those samples had their own, weird sound. Only when the SP-1200 sound had sunk in and become commonplace - around 1988 or '89 - was there an opening for the MPC's higher-fidelity sound (and some would say punchier sound, but definitely with more bottom end than the SP) to take over and become the weapon of choice for producers.
Yeah, it all depends on the style of music they want to create. These days with trap beats and such the 1200 and vintage machines would not have an advantage at all.
@@defcreator187 Sure but not everything was great. Each era has it pros and cons. Many bangers were also made in the 2000s and they heavily relied on Daws and those beats were also dope. It's the producer, not the device
@@unc1589 the past 20 years a lot of RnB and Hip Hop hits that sold millions and millions have never seen any kind of equipment other than a computer with software. It's all about the beat and the groove. Nobody gives a F on what or how it was made. Only freaks, geeks and producers care about those things. The majority (99.98%) doesn't.
I love akai, I love akai’s pads but what I don’t love is that calculator type screen. That’s what I don’t get. The justification to buy one just to learn an antiquated and obsolete operating system that you control with a wheel and a few buttons. Not to mention the screen is 5-7 inches at best. My opinion is if you buy an akai mpd and link it to a solid DAW like Logic Pro you can easily achieve the same task of a 3000 at a cheaper cost and better learning curve. The Drum Machine Designer inside of Logic Pro is literally all the same features. Google it yourself.
From you said "The Drum Machine Designer inside of Logic Pro is literally all the same features," you just gave away fully that you have never used a 3000 before or you would know what the differences are, and why people who can, gravitate towards it. Anyway if the software floats your boat then there is nothing wrong with that. IMO and experience is best to have both.
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio please educate me and let me know what you can do differently? The swing? Trimming via touchscreen or antiquated wheel or do your justify its worth by its monetary value? I would really like to have this conversation.
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@@RalphLBaerits workflow, workflow, workflow. not just capability. I work as a product designer and a big lesson you learn is limitations are often what makes a product great (like how phones don't have mice but you can still do certain things better on those devices, because the whole thing is designed around it) As the other person said, if youve ever actually used a hardware drum machine you'd know what we're talking about. It's hyper focused on doing a few things very well and the buttons/knobs are second nature. DAWs doing absolutely everything is one of the downsides, in addition to having tweets and texts coming through to distract you. Most people use MPC for the creative process, creating the initial loop or structure, then finishing it in a DAW. Or you can start your samples or sounds on your computer, import it to the machine bump out a beat, then finish arrangements, master, and or mix it in a DAW. At the end of the day it's about making music and getting into a creative flow state. Artificial limitations + mastery of your tools help put you in those flows. DAWs offer so much it'd take 5x longer to get the set up right and then you'll be tweaking VSTs, updating shit, distracted by email etc for hours while a drummachine dude will have made a beat already.
THE BEST ONE EVER
@woody forrest
ASR 10 swing? That sequencer is horrible.
The 60 and the 3k are about the same.
The difference is the accent (or the push on the 2 and 4).
That’s what separates ever other swing.
The PPQ can be the same but the accent (emphasis) is different on the MPC.
Nobody gets that.
Very happy to hear you mention J DIlla .. Doc do more history lessons on the people and the gear lol I bet you got some good stories..
Fantastic machine....Absolutely love my LE...
Man i am so thankful to have the newer MPC’s with touch screens i could not imagine having to use a screen like on these older machines. I could have had an MPC3000 back in the day but i decided not to just because of the screen lol so i continued producing on computer until i got the MPC Touch and then the MPC Live 2.
That's like comparing a classic muscle car to a modern EV. One is a work of art and engineering, collectible and admired for its looks and place in history. The other is soulless and boring but does the job and gets you from A to B, but has all the bells and whistles. Completely different markets for each and not comparable.
I miss when prices for these units were cheap on ebay back in the day (mpc 3000 for $900-1200, mpc 60 for $500-700). Wish I could replace the mpc 60 I used to have but prices are ridiculous now, at least the mpc 1000 is relatively the same price (even with jjos).
I used to see sp1200s maxed out in pawn shops for $600 and was like nah/pass.
Now their $8/9000. I need a Time Machine.
@@unc1589 what year?
Right before the pandemic I saw a few 3000s for about $500 on offer up. So mad I didn't cop
Studios had MPC60II back in the days. Pro drummers and beat makers had the 3000. The drummers who used the 3000 then still use it now. Trying to get any of them to part with theirs is like it's easier to pull teeth from a crocodile while it's awake. It's just not happening. I'm glad I got one in the end, no thanks to them. Not parting with mine either and I don't really need the 60II so much now although the sound and swing of the 60II and the 3000 is noticeably different.
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Chris The Glove Taylor (Ice T Reckless, Firm Phone Tap) introduced Dr.Dre to the Mpc60ii which they used on the Chronic and Doggystyle everything after that was the Mpc3000
I love watching these history videos on a rainy sunday like today ❤⛈
Love the history lesson 🫡🇨🇦🔥
still dream on buy one .... like one day AKai Mpc 3000 Le !!!! Namaste Haribol Asewe!!!
I had one for many years in my studio simply the best.
mann I miss going to Rogue mUsic.. I used to intern at Planet Sound downstairs in the early 2000s.. thats when all the shops were open!!
Me too.
This was my 1st MPC!!! I was in a Studio in ATL messing with the 60 Series II & came home fiending for it like a addict... My MPC Ren is still running because it reminds me of it, with Digital I/O...👑✨👑
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I once had the schematics to the MPC 3000, if I find them I will post them if you like.
Thanks I got them from akai from a repair manual.
Mine had the video/RGB out, see the space above the footswitch inputs
Where on which device?
@@SampleKingsVideos The MPC3000, there is space above the foot switch 1/4" inputs. It was officially an option and its VGA not RGB
I got mine from Clay too! A black limited edition number 975.
There’s only 1000 of them that were released back then.
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Awesome 👍
Loving these videos 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 can’t wait for 4K, MPC Live & X🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
What was the difference between the MPC 3000 and the MPC 3000 XL can you explain to me that
There's no 3000XL. There's a 3000LE which the only difference is the colors.
I’m sorry anybody who knows music no I meant 2000 XL. It came out 3000 sorry about that but can anybody help me with this I’m trying to figure out which one to purchase which one is the best is the MPC 2000 XL a legit and professional machine to purchase.
@@lamarcraven2314 The 2000xl was the 3000 replacement. The XL is an much simpler MPC decently made cheaper, but a much faster unit.. The main difference besides sound is you can see the audio wave form
3000 Le just a paint job
2000 mode keys and numerical keypad same thing mode used with shift
Expandable to 32 megs 3min stereo 6 mono sample time
Waveform seen on screen user samples for time as opposed to real time
Screen in fixed position / tilted on 2000xl
Only 2 in /out midi
Time clock 8 outs and effects optional upgrades
Floppy needed to boot OS / later slot with OS on sd/or cf card
Times Treach available on 2000xl but was a PIA
Some functions had to be done on screen like quantize and metronome on off and time signature.
2000 had a 300hz bump as opposed to the 100 hz bump on 3000 .
2000 had note off function and used zone screen for chopping samples 3000 had to copy and truncate then repeat
@@theoutsideas thank you, Mr. Bryson
Do the 4000 next….
8 midi ports? :P
Typo I meant 8 outputs
Still have my MPC3000, and will never sell it!!!
My fav MPC too!
It's such a pretty machine to start with ....
Black mpc 3000 in 1995? Got a pic of that?
I sold mine.
@@SampleKingsVideosDidn’t the Black 3000 LE come out in 2000?
4:07 theres not much of these tbh, i own #216
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Its timeless, I wouldn't splurge on the 3000 but I am contemplating the one or live. I have the studio just to wet whistle a little but I feel like it was a waste.
No wave/audio image, chop samples by ear.
While your comparison between the MPC and SP is inevitable, the sequencer in the MPCs is a major difference. If not for that, I would've been more of a SP guy. Don't remember the 3000 being $4500.
I had both started on the sp1200 then I got the MPC for a midi center and sequencer what ever the client liked they paid to rent we had.
@@SampleKingsVideos Can't argue with that. My boy was the SP1200 king that I knew. Rashad Smith. He used that while I used my own sequencer and keyboards to handle that part
I doubt at the time anyone even seen many Mpc 3000 outside of a studio to even notice the price😂
@@mont-doggBeats it was mainly drummers and programmers who had them. I saw it and saw its price and didn't think about getting one. You had to be a pro to spend on one of them.
So much backstory on the invention of these machines.
Hip Hop was the redhead step child of the music industry.
“Everybody” did not love hip hop!
It was frowned upon by 80% of the established music industry.
So the devices used to make hip hop were frowned upon also.
A pop band could use an MPC and nobody cared.
Rappers? Oh no those machines are trash.
They became associated with ghetto blackness.
Especially by rock purest.
Also…
The only producers that were looking for that “dirty sound” were hip hop producers.
So even after the MPs were selling, that SP stayed hot.
The 950 put a stop to all that.
The first black star musician Louis Armstrong went thru the same thing, in fact all black music was frowned on for jazz to blues to Rock N Roll to R&B to Disco to Rap. Truth.
It is good but very outdated. It doesn’t even have a USB slot. Nobody in their right mind will use that if they wanna save themselves time now. Floppy disk is a no go. I now use The MPC 1000 with JJOS XL. It’s killing how the OS operated on the 3000.
You can put a SD card in it
@@saucehollywood I’m aware of that. It’s very slow with loading wav files. And also not reliable.
How dare they make a device in 1994 without a USB slot, what were they thinking.
@@project-95😂 Yes how dare they in 1994.
Part of the reason the SP-1200 was able to outcompete the MPC60 was that the MPC was actually More hi-fi, at a moment in music when rap fans wanted to hear samples that "sounded like samples" - which was exactly what SP samples sounded like. Just as rap fans at first were taken with music that consisted solely of drum machine beats and sparse scratching - as a stark contrast to the over-lush production of mid-80s Top 40 and other genres, hip-hop listeners became equally fascinated by sampling when the technology became widely available to producers, and how those samples had their own, weird sound. Only when the SP-1200 sound had sunk in and become commonplace - around 1988 or '89 - was there an opening for the MPC's higher-fidelity sound (and some would say punchier sound, but definitely with more bottom end than the SP) to take over and become the weapon of choice for producers.
Yeah, it all depends on the style of music they want to create. These days with trap beats and such the 1200 and vintage machines would not have an advantage at all.
@@defcreator187 Maybe so but current day Trapstyle music is totally different from what Mantronix made.
@@defcreator187 Sure but not everything was great. Each era has it pros and cons.
Many bangers were also made in the 2000s and they heavily relied on Daws and those beats were also dope.
It's the producer, not the device
That’s right! And the 3k sound wound up making more hit records in the end.
Cats stopped looking for that SP dirt and the MP fidelity took over.
@@unc1589 the past 20 years a lot of RnB and Hip Hop hits that sold millions and millions have never seen any kind of equipment other than a computer with software.
It's all about the beat and the groove.
Nobody gives a F on what or how it was made. Only freaks, geeks and producers care about those things.
The majority (99.98%) doesn't.
I love akai, I love akai’s pads but what I don’t love is that calculator type screen. That’s what I don’t get. The justification to buy one just to learn an antiquated and obsolete operating system that you control with a wheel and a few buttons. Not to mention the screen is 5-7 inches at best. My opinion is if you buy an akai mpd and link it to a solid DAW like Logic Pro you can easily achieve the same task of a 3000 at a cheaper cost and better learning curve. The Drum Machine Designer inside of Logic Pro is literally all the same features. Google it yourself.
From you said "The Drum Machine Designer inside of Logic Pro is literally all the same features," you just gave away fully that you have never used a 3000 before or you would know what the differences are, and why people who can, gravitate towards it. Anyway if the software floats your boat then there is nothing wrong with that. IMO and experience is best to have both.
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio please educate me and let me know what you can do differently? The swing? Trimming via touchscreen or antiquated wheel or do your justify its worth by its monetary value? I would really like to have this conversation.
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@@RalphLBaerits workflow, workflow, workflow. not just capability. I work as a product designer and a big lesson you learn is limitations are often what makes a product great (like how phones don't have mice but you can still do certain things better on those devices, because the whole thing is designed around it)
As the other person said, if youve ever actually used a hardware drum machine you'd know what we're talking about. It's hyper focused on doing a few things very well and the buttons/knobs are second nature.
DAWs doing absolutely everything is one of the downsides, in addition to having tweets and texts coming through to distract you. Most people use MPC for the creative process, creating the initial loop or structure, then finishing it in a DAW. Or you can start your samples or sounds on your computer, import it to the machine bump out a beat, then finish arrangements, master, and or mix it in a DAW.
At the end of the day it's about making music and getting into a creative flow state. Artificial limitations + mastery of your tools help put you in those flows. DAWs offer so much it'd take 5x longer to get the set up right and then you'll be tweaking VSTs, updating shit, distracted by email etc for hours while a drummachine dude will have made a beat already.