@@emilmckellar4932 Congratulations, you dislike something! Thank you so much for complaining like a child about the harmless and free of charge information that these people were generous enough to provide for anybody to learn.
I was on the verge of flunking a highschool english class when my teacher said he would let me pass if I did a watercolor of the classical orders to hang in the classroom. Their now permanently etched in my brain. I passed the semester and the painting hung there for years.
A very good detailed analysis of the Doric. Nonetheless it is regrettable that the presentation of ionic and Corinthian was a bit rushed towards the end of the video. So much should be said about the base and the fluting, the frieze . Also a video regarding the Tuscan the Composite and the much later developed Colossal order would be more than appreciated; Great work.
It was not rushed because the foundation was explained clearly at doric. So the creator just presented the differences of doric to ionic and corinthian. But still, the video is very commendable.
I think colossal (or "giant") order just refers to columns or pilasters that span two or more storeys. Those columns can be Doric, Ionic, Corinthian etc
dont know how i ended up here, but this class really drew me in, and im not really insterested in architecture beyond "wow that looks cool" or "that building is ugly"
I find it very interesting how much of the very same knowledge is available online as in a reputable college. Thanks no doubt, to people like these wonderful graduates. A little ironic, but hey.
you can learn literally everything on youtube for free. Only thing missing is the slip of paper saying you learned it. Just thinking, with knowledge being so readily available do we even need a proof of learn anymore?
@@nutzeeer universities force you to learn much more than you'd bother with if you had no obligations. they also give you a reasonable path from 0 understanding to an expert's knowledge, which the average person wouldn't be able to easily divine. i doubt your knowledge will- regardless of how many youtube videos you watch- ever equal that of a graduate student in the topic.
@@NotLegato if you know what knowledge means you can judge yourself. of course having help at starting from 0 is good, but there is no reason to not have such courses on youtube. take biochemistry for example. AK Lectures explains this well. Not as deeply as university does, but enough to give a very good understanding of things.
I am truly impressed. Two you remind me my college days when we used to have so precise and focused discussions on art and architecture. Great job, and please keep doing.
I could never thank you enough for this presentation. This could be presented solely by itself in art history class. I use it as a wrap after my lecture which moves at a slower pace with illustrations. THANK YOU !
I LOVE the calm and relaxed tone of your voices! It makes me pay attention and relax at the same time. And i now feel excited to know that i will notice and appreciate architecture in the future. Thanks!
I'm glad a video was done of this. I always found it very interesting in my art history class. Since I was a kid these columns they always got my attention. Such history☺
Thank you so much for making this video. I am currently taking art history online and I was finding it very hard to understand the classical orders and this video has helped me a lot with understanding the vocabulary and and the orders in general.
I am a homeschool mom teaching my kids Art History and I LOVE, LOVE your videos. You have pic of what you are talking about and in this video, drawing on it. Thank you so much, we love these videos. My kids are 8 & 10 BTW, that's how amazing your videos are!!
I wish we had more variety in our architecture. I know it's probably not financially viable for a business to want to look like an ancient greek temple but it would be a great local landmark and would be nice to see. There is a masonic temple in Guthrie, Oklahoma that has the Doric columns with a base. It's one of the most unique looking buildings in our entire state.
I agree! Honestly even the unique roof of a classic Pizza Hut is refreshing even despite the corporate associations, just because it provides a bit of variety. We need more stylized choices - even if it's just a different color paint.
I think any person that is Great at their profession Feels a sense of pride when they see a other professional who has their T's crossed and their i's dotted. And wants to take their glove off and slap anyone across the face who dwells in imbecile town when it comes to their bread and butter.
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A very clear and well illustrated presentation. Informative and educational. So much of these styles can be seen today by me, at least in England. the styles also feature on antique and sometimes fine modern furniture
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In my home town we had any number of neoclassical buildings, generally built before 1920 and used by banks. Of course the banks have long since moved to functional boxes, while the classical buildings are now used by boutiques and fast-food restaurants.
I love this couples voices... so soothing,NEVER CHANGE.... ive visited paestum,Agropoli.. its simply stunning,your view is not corrupted by modernity...so many films used the Hera temple...ive been on a full moon summer night and the Magic is palpable
Nice architectural class! Oh my, really reminds me back then, flashbacks. I wish it is this exciting when learning in Architecture school! I did an efbee group focus on 'Contemporary Abode'. If you want to say something...please 🙏🙏don't hesitate to join or contribute😁 I know there are many masters here
The "drum" feature of the column prob makes it more flexible. It may have cost a lot of work/resources at the time of manufacturing, but it is still around despite the fall of Greek empire so ... kudos builders!
Great video. Just one thing though, the top right picture in the last set classified as Corinthian (with the little wire fence around it), shouldn't that be classed as Composite? (the Corinthian leafage plus the Ionic scroll combined at the top corners).
During research many years ago, (I no longer have the source material) an explanation I came across for the styling of the fluting and the leaf like structure on the Corinthian columns was the tradition of carrying forward a style symbolically and incorporating it into the architecture even though the technology had moved on, much like the triglyphs representing "beam". The idea was that in very early Egyptian architecture prior to stone building, they would bind several olive palm trees together tightly, to make a single, pillar like structure, the appearance would be, symbolically anyway, like a fluted column with the leaves at the top. What are your thoughts?
@7:30 the column drums can most definitely still be mass produced each drum would have a fitment jig to check for quality control/fitment, most columns were probably plastered over to appear as 1 solid piece 🤷♂️
I appreciate when people use "known as ..." instead of "called ...". This way of thinking emphasizes the fact that all names are conventions and not absolutes
According to classical architect George Saumarez Smith, Schools of Architecture stopped teaching the Classical Orders 50 or so years ago. That's pretty telling, judging by the corpus of modern architecture.
Modern architecture commonly cites the classical, and contemporary architecture programs still expect students to understand the history of their discipline. Mies van der Rohe and Corbusier were both deeply influenced by ancient Greek architecture, and like the ancients, they used the technologies and materials available to them.
@@smarthistory-art-history Maybe, but Le Corbusier ended up destroying architecture by obliterating beauty and leaving but a barren skeleton of "function" for humans to live and work in. Thankfully architects of the 1990s and 21st century are starting to come out of their shell a bit more and are no longer afraid of decoration
@@mmohon93 we already know. The original columns and entablatures were made of wood. But after, greek and roman stuctures were made of rocks, and vulcanic concrete
Excellent presentation. Simple and understandable. I wish all the people who decorate their houses with these orders (but do it without knowing how) would watch this.
@@dylanhinkel3548 Well I don't disagree that many modern buildings are ugly, but I don't think that neoclassical buildings are the only beautiful ones, nor that the classical styles are "completely ignored today", as the OP suggests. In absolute numbers, I'm sure more beautiful buildings are being constructed today than at any point in the Roman empire, so you can hardly justify asking "how far we have regressed". Also, let's not forget that the structures this video is concerned with are temples and other prestigious buildings, not the homes of common people.
WH? , because it beautiful! That's why! 7:07 I wish I would have been involved in this sort of work. The University didn't accept a dumby like me. Keep up the good work, I love this
Very nice video , I love the pure hard info like this . the Doric is the only one without a base. The 3 columns each have a name that describes a virtue , like strength and beauty. Can you guess what they are?
i truly love your videos my art history prof had us watch specific ones but i ended up watching them all for fun!! your guys’ dynamic is energetic and fun and i love how fast you go cause i got ADHD lmfao y’all are great❤️
@ 3:32 If you go back in time the architectural wisdom back then is all about megalithic stone structures. It existed far more ancient than the Mayan civilization & the great pyramids of Egypt. I got a huge respect for the great people who constructed them because until now they haven't figured out the masonry behind those ruins.
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The way this is discussed helps keep me focused. It's not boring at all! Thank you for making learning fun!
@@emilmckellar4932 Congratulations, you dislike something! Thank you so much for complaining like a child about the harmless and free of charge information that these people were generous enough to provide for anybody to learn.
@@quinncampbell1182 Did something get deleted? Anyway, I loved the back and forth presentation and the easy to follow descriptions
I was on the verge of flunking a highschool english class when my teacher said he would let me pass if I did a watercolor of the classical orders to hang in the classroom. Their now permanently etched in my brain. I passed the semester and the painting hung there for years.
They’re* 🤦🏻♂️
Good job man
@@ethanmcardle3215 lol
A very good detailed analysis of the Doric. Nonetheless it is regrettable that the presentation of ionic and Corinthian was a bit rushed towards the end of the video. So much should be said about the base and the fluting, the frieze . Also a video regarding the Tuscan the Composite and the much later developed Colossal order would be more than appreciated; Great work.
It was not rushed because the foundation was explained clearly at doric. So the creator just presented the differences of doric to ionic and corinthian. But still, the video is very commendable.
Yeah
Never heard of the Collosal Order. Off to Google what it was. Was there not a less used Greek style of columns called the Aetolian?
Ikr
I think colossal (or "giant") order just refers to columns or pilasters that span two or more storeys. Those columns can be Doric, Ionic, Corinthian etc
dont know how i ended up here, but this class really drew me in, and im not really insterested in architecture beyond "wow that looks cool" or "that building is ugly"
Thank you for making us understand these things in a more clear and fun way.
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If only all education held this level of excellency. Amazing content and execution, bravo!
if only all students were excellent! sadly we get sleepers and students who cant even watch these videos, too! but definitely, blame the educators.
The Corinthian design is by far my favorite, and the most elaborate (IMO) form of classical architecture! Great video. Thank you
Same here, the best art reflects nature.
I took a brutal Art History class to learn this. This is so much more pleasant.
I find it very interesting how much of the very same knowledge is available online as in a reputable college. Thanks no doubt, to people like these wonderful graduates. A little ironic, but hey.
you can learn literally everything on youtube for free. Only thing missing is the slip of paper saying you learned it.
Just thinking, with knowledge being so readily available do we even need a proof of learn anymore?
@@nutzeeer universities force you to learn much more than you'd bother with if you had no obligations. they also give you a reasonable path from 0 understanding to an expert's knowledge, which the average person wouldn't be able to easily divine. i doubt your knowledge will- regardless of how many youtube videos you watch- ever equal that of a graduate student in the topic.
@@NotLegato if you know what knowledge means you can judge yourself. of course having help at starting from 0 is good, but there is no reason to not have such courses on youtube. take biochemistry for example. AK Lectures explains this well. Not as deeply as university does, but enough to give a very good understanding of things.
My art history teacher was amazing...she worked on a lot of famous sites. And the Louvre.
5:24 The Parthenon is a mixed style building: there are also Ionic colums at the inside (at the actual Parthenon).
I am truly impressed. Two you remind me my college days when we used to have so precise and focused discussions on art and architecture. Great job, and please keep doing.
It's impressive that the ancients were able to develop fairly good architecture, even without aluminum siding.
I could never thank you enough for this presentation. This could be presented solely by itself in art history class.
I use it as a wrap after my lecture which moves at a slower pace with illustrations.
THANK YOU !
I LOVE the calm and relaxed tone of your voices! It makes me pay attention and relax at the same time. And i now feel excited to know that i will notice and appreciate architecture in the future. Thanks!
HATE their voices.
well explained thank you Dr. Steven and Beth.
i am an architecture student, and your videos really helps me a lot , thank you. :D
Thank you very much, the explanation is amusing and great
I'm glad a video was done of this. I always found it very interesting in my art history class. Since I was a kid these columns they always got my attention. Such history☺
Thank you so much for making this video. I am currently taking art history online and I was finding it very hard to understand the classical orders and this video has helped me a lot with understanding the vocabulary and and the orders in general.
Tapered columns allow more light into the structure.
That's not the real reason they gave tapered columns, but it was an optical correction that made columns look straight from far distance
@@Hi-xu9xn , no.
@@anikets4188 this is what I also learned in architectural school. It was all about proportion.
@@franzm4945 yup! There were 4-5 more optical corrections done to maintain a good view and proportion......
@@anikets4188 Wouldn't they have to be tapered the other way for that to be true?
I am a homeschool mom teaching my kids Art History and I LOVE, LOVE your videos. You have pic of what you are talking about and in this video, drawing on it. Thank you so much, we love these videos. My kids are 8 & 10 BTW, that's how amazing your videos are!!
Thank you for the kind word! So glad to hear the videos are helpful.
How are your kids now? 😆
I'm around the same age as them. I'm 14 hahaha
I wish we had more variety in our architecture. I know it's probably not financially viable for a business to want to look like an ancient greek temple but it would be a great local landmark and would be nice to see. There is a masonic temple in Guthrie, Oklahoma that has the Doric columns with a base. It's one of the most unique looking buildings in our entire state.
I agree! Honestly even the unique roof of a classic Pizza Hut is refreshing even despite the corporate associations, just because it provides a bit of variety. We need more stylized choices - even if it's just a different color paint.
a bricklayer will see bad brickwork everywhere....occasionally....he will delight in good.
AND THIS VID IS GOOD.
It's the nature of the order. What can you do ??...
I think any person that is
Great at their profession
Feels a sense of pride when they see a other professional who has their T's crossed and their i's dotted.
And wants to take their glove off and slap anyone across the face who dwells in imbecile town when it comes to their bread and butter.
Agreed, It's like a poke in the eye.
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Vielen Dank für Ihre freundlichen Worte, sie werden sehr geschätzt.
A very clear and well illustrated presentation. Informative and educational. So much of these styles can be seen today by me, at least in England. the styles also feature on antique and sometimes fine modern furniture
Classical architecture and art is incredible, I hope it sees a revival again here in America.
Amen
Return to traditional western aesthetics
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Reminds me of my art history class. Very informative with great detail.
This video can be helpful for 3D artist or Minecraft builders.
I like that brand and am thinking about buying it.
Minecraft, right, this country is in great shape.
@@richardmiranda640 Yes, minecraft is a good past time that mentally stimulates one whilst also providing creative challenges. The amount of benefits from playing minecraft studied in psychology is insane
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Great information and explanations of the Architectural feaures
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Compared to School discussion about this topic, this video makes me listen attentively.
Nice video. Nice narrative duet.
Thanks for the art history review! I saw a Corinthian column set in front of a building near me and it reminded me to brush up! :)
this is really helpful for my Greek assignment, just need it inn time!
The most engaging video on this topic I've seen so far
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Stumbled here on accident. Stayed for intriguing information and the ability to flex on people with random knowledge. Thank you
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I just learned so much more then in school!😮
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Once again, your style is so didactic and easy to understand! A must for students of art history!
Thank you! Your dialog is amazing way to present information :-)
i've watched so many of your videos I feel like we're old friends, thank you!!
Until I saw this, my knowledge of Greek orders involved souvlaki, gyros and moussaka
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In my home town we had any number of neoclassical buildings, generally built before 1920 and used by banks. Of course the banks have long since moved to functional boxes, while the classical buildings are now used by boutiques and fast-food restaurants.
And now i see modern architects using the columns like a straight smooth tube, and it looks so DULL.
Big Thank You for the explications! Stéph.
Thank you for all your videos i watched them all with joy.
I love this couples voices... so soothing,NEVER CHANGE.... ive visited paestum,Agropoli.. its simply stunning,your view is not corrupted by modernity...so many films used the Hera temple...ive been on a full moon summer night and the Magic is palpable
Excellent refresher lesson! Thank you!
I have my exam tomorrow and this is so helpful. Thank you so much for this video!!
This is great, thank you. I learned about all this in school, but this refreshed it nicely, since I forgot some ... :)
Nice architectural class! Oh my, really reminds me back then, flashbacks. I wish it is this exciting when learning in Architecture school! I did an efbee group focus on 'Contemporary Abode'. If you want to say something...please 🙏🙏don't hesitate to join or contribute😁 I know there are many masters here
You guys saved me of my exam of history of art
The only issue that I'm having in my dissertation is the construction methods required to create these absolutely beautiful columns.
very detailed and nice explanation but some facts are wrong
e.g entablature's top part is the cornice and frieze is actually in the middle .
Who's your favorite artist?
Very informative and easy to watch/understand
This was very helpful and well explained, thank you!
You won't realize how large Doric Shafts were until you see one in person.
Fantastically well mad video, thank you so much!
I have a test tomorrow on this topic and this video really helped thank you so much for making this!
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Fantastic video! Very well presented and explained
There is a full-size 1:1 replica of the Parthenon in Nashville, TN including the statue of Athena inside.
The "drum" feature of the column prob makes it more flexible. It may have cost a lot of work/resources at the time of manufacturing, but it is still around despite the fall of Greek empire so ... kudos builders!
I would like to see a similar study of the shape of balusters.
Would they not have narrowed the columns towards the top so as to let in more sunlight???
maybe, I thought it was to make the building look bigger as when you look up you would see bigger gaps
modern architecture uses columns a lot! especially on facades of homes.
Great video. Just one thing though, the top right picture in the last set classified as Corinthian (with the little wire fence around it), shouldn't that be classed as Composite? (the Corinthian leafage plus the Ionic scroll combined at the top corners).
Entasis is also important because a tapered column with straight sides ( no obvious swelling as with entasis) actually looks concave
During research many years ago, (I no longer have the source material)
an explanation I came across for the styling of the fluting and the leaf like structure on the Corinthian columns was the tradition of carrying forward a style symbolically and incorporating it into the architecture even though the technology had moved on, much like the triglyphs representing "beam".
The idea was that in very early Egyptian architecture prior to stone building, they would bind several olive palm trees together tightly, to make a single, pillar like structure, the appearance would be, symbolically anyway, like a fluted column with the leaves at the top.
What are your thoughts?
That is a common and well supported theory.
Thank you very much for the good information! so helpful!
@7:30 the column drums can most definitely still be mass produced each drum would have a fitment jig to check for quality control/fitment, most columns were probably plastered over to appear as 1 solid piece 🤷♂️
So helpful, thank you very much!
Really a nice rundown. Probably the best video I've seen of you guys' to date! Keep it up! :)
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I appreciate when people use "known as ..." instead of "called ...". This way of thinking emphasizes the fact that all names are conventions and not absolutes
what if when conventions are absolute
According to classical architect George Saumarez Smith, Schools of Architecture stopped teaching the Classical Orders 50 or so years ago. That's pretty telling, judging by the corpus of modern architecture.
Modern architecture commonly cites the classical, and contemporary architecture programs still expect students to understand the history of their discipline. Mies van der Rohe and Corbusier were both deeply influenced by ancient Greek architecture, and like the ancients, they used the technologies and materials available to them.
@@smarthistory-art-history Maybe, but Le Corbusier ended up destroying architecture by obliterating beauty and leaving but a barren skeleton of "function" for humans to live and work in. Thankfully architects of the 1990s and 21st century are starting to come out of their shell a bit more and are no longer afraid of decoration
how was it made?,what tools , what preparation, what was the process??
@@mmohon93 we already know.
The original columns and entablatures were made of wood.
But after, greek and roman stuctures were made of rocks, and vulcanic concrete
Here in malaysia in quite common to find a corinthian-type pillar in village area
same in Thailand too, quite sweet really I dont know why... But the moulds for the corinithian capitals are usually all worn out. !
Excellent presentation. Simple and understandable. I wish all the people who decorate their houses with these orders (but do it without knowing how) would watch this.
It is so informative and useful. Thank you :D
When my wife gets emotional after looking at the credit card bill I play videos of the narrators.
She calms down immediately.
You should add that in the two latter orders the frieze does not consist of triglyphs and metopes, but rather a continuous band called the zophoros.
Fascinating and well explained.
This was helpful. Looking at houses in San Francisco and all of these elements are in the majority of the Victorians here.
Great job! You two….. amazing
But how were the temples built ? What materials? STONE or Concrete ? Ho did the lintels were moved up to the top ? How heavy were they ?
Not just B.C. but B.C. with an E.An improvement.
These orders are completely ignored today. How far we have regressed.
Modernism = Barbarianism but with technological advancement
What are you talking about? They were hugely influential in American architecture; have you seen the white house?
@@SpaghettiToaster The White house is 221 years old. Hardly counts as "today".
@@shortfusedfox2593 Palladian and other neoclassical buildings are still built today.
@@dylanhinkel3548 Well I don't disagree that many modern buildings are ugly, but I don't think that neoclassical buildings are the only beautiful ones, nor that the classical styles are "completely ignored today", as the OP suggests. In absolute numbers, I'm sure more beautiful buildings are being constructed today than at any point in the Roman empire, so you can hardly justify asking "how far we have regressed". Also, let's not forget that the structures this video is concerned with are temples and other prestigious buildings, not the homes of common people.
WH? , because it beautiful! That's why! 7:07 I wish I would have been involved in this sort of work. The University didn't accept a dumby like me. Keep up the good work, I love this
I never knew there was a word for the "pregnant columns", as I've always called them. Thanks for that.
Very nice video , I love the pure hard info like this . the Doric is the only one without a base. The 3 columns each have a name that describes a virtue , like strength and beauty. Can you guess what they are?
This was really helpful! Thank you so much!
i truly love your videos my art history prof had us watch specific ones but i ended up watching them all for fun!! your guys’ dynamic is energetic and fun and i love how fast you go cause i got ADHD lmfao y’all are great❤️
@ 3:32 If you go back in time the architectural wisdom back then is all about megalithic stone structures. It existed far more ancient than the Mayan civilization & the great pyramids of Egypt. I got a huge respect for the great people who constructed them because until now they haven't figured out the masonry behind those ruins.
Hm. I've never really looked into architecture but this is quite interesting.
I do notice it. "The fluting of the shaft" I now recognize as ornamental.
i appreciate a good fluting of the shaft.
Very well explained, you do such a brilliant job drs. I didn't know about the basket myth :) Thank you!