I've welded both galvanized and cadmium plated steel. Both are bad for your lungs. The galvanized sometimes gives you lung irritation, but the cadmium can make you very sick. I was welding some painted steel once and within 24 hr. I was very ill, with bad "flu-like" symptoms. It took nearly a week for the the effects to gradually wear off. Much worse than the effects of welding galvanized. I later learned that it was caused by the cadmium plating under the paint. Note that I had ground off the paint near the area to be welded, but the heat had vaporized some of the plating nearby. This was enough to cause severe health effects. The lesson is to wear a respirator and use ventilation if at all possible when welding hazardous or unknown materials. Yes, there is such a thing as "metal fume fever" and you will be more cautious if you are unlucky enough to ever have it.
Thank you for that. You make a very good point regarding the removal of the paint. Basically the weld prep area needs to be big enough to cover the heat effected zone. I am currently researching the possibility of using some galvanised sheet that I have left over from my powder coating oven build for some box section on the chassis of the car I am building on my RUclips channel. Thank you for sharing your experience. I think I will be sticking to mild steel sheet for the fab work. Kind regards Paul (from "48-SPOKES")
@@itsalldoable Metal coatings are something to be cautious about, no doubt about it. I haven't had any problems when I wear a respirator. The one I use when I'm not too lazy to put it on is the 3M with the pink P100 filters. The half-face size with the filters on fits under regular welding hoods just fine.
*Another advantage to the flux-core wire (besides not needing expensive gas) is that you can weld outside in the wind where the fumes are whisked away so they won't hurt you. Pretty much everything on the steel that is not more steel will hurt you when welding (if you breath in the fumes)-- so if you are in an enclosed space either a respirator or external breathing air system are mandatory. BTW-- off topic, but you can even get gasless flux core wire that will weld stainless steel. The little {cheap} "hobby" wire-feed machines that only weld with flux-core wire (and also low-cost stick welders) are starting to look far more useful...no?*
I MIG weld galvanized steel all day. Lincoln electric 455 power wave using pulse, 400/0.92 is my setting. welds like a dream. I've passed all my C.W.B. certifications using this method and the steel always broke before the weld. The hardest thing to avoid is pinholes, your travel speed needs to be perfect. (Edit) I don't remove the coating either. Where I work, there is no time to be grinding each joint. Gotta get those parts out of the booth ASAP
Dang! All these years I've been welding galvanized with a MIG process only to find out now, it can't be done. I kinda feel like Gilligan when the Skipper told him he couldn't fly. You really do need to put the warning about the gasses.
Makoshark26, I'd be happy to explain. First off, I don't know everything, I'm just a man that enjoys welding, and I watch these videos to puck up tips and ideas, much the same as you, I would imagine. Yes, my tone was a bit sarcastic, but the point was, in this case at least, the information was not only incorrect, it could also prove to be deadly because there was no information about the proper safety precautions given.
seriously?! zero warning about metal fume fever courtesy of the zinc that is the key to galvanizing steel... I expected far more from the producers as well as the MIG expert...
I Mig weld galv sheet metal of various thicknesses together all day long with no problem. I give the metal a light sanding with a disc on my grinder. And I use a extraction vent to take care of the fumes.
If your Forman insist on you not grinding the galvanized away to save 2 minutes. Could try to do first pass with 6010, for overhead or vertical. Then proceed with 7016 to finish of the correct seize weld. It to each is own. Different doesn’t always mean wrong.
I'm surprised this worked considering zinc has a very low boiling point it turns to a gas when welded which is what causes the porosity. It seems that would be the case no matter what flux/shielding you use. I always just grind off the galvanized coating before welding and never a problem....considering you're blasting the coating off either way , no worse on corrosion resistance either.
In the ship yard we refered to it as the sink-nausea. The remedy was to drink milk when finished puking, and it was only a problem the first day. The next day and so on, welding zink was not a problem. It was just one of these things we had to do to keep the job. Luckily it was banned by the unions, without proper extraction. Same as in most civilised countries today. So my sympathy for the barfooted workers on the beached ships in Bangladesh and like.
im welding galvanized fence tubing 1 5/8" .090" and i switched my MIG machine to flux core and got better welds... went back to mig and now im here trying to figure out what i did wrong... i hope i just need to pull the puddle.. thanks for the video
The best practice though is to remove the galvanization with a flap disk, weld it with mild steel wire on electrode positive and then when you have finished the weld, allow it to cool then spray it with a galvanize spray. If you weld directly though galvanization then you will be exposed to toxic gases.
+John Ranalletta thats why i thought it was necessary to explain not to weld on galvanized metal unless the surface has been removed unlike the video explains.
You can buy a galvanizing spray paint after a repair has been carried out. The paint has a high zinc particulate which covers the part in zinc. dahveed284
luke cooper yeah that's what we do as well in some cases we don't grind the galvanized coat off we just weld with the 70s6 mild steel wire and about 90% of the time works great even have some nice dime stacks and some silicon deposit remaining common when welding carbon steel
I remove the galvanized coating with muriatic acid. Takes about a minute to get to beautiful bare metal. rinse off and weld away! spray new coating on when finished. Available at home depot, etc...
What if you remove the galvanized coating with muratic acid??? It removed the coating well. I done it an the welds turned out great. I used 75 25 gas an 0.23 wire. Set my gas at about 25
I was a little surprised to not hear any warnings of the possible health issues associated with the flumes from welding (any process) galvanized metals. It would have been good to mention those risks, It would have been better to discuss safety precautions to protect yourself from those risks, It would have been even better to discuss and demonstrate those safety precautions.
+makoshark26 No no. I don't claim to be an expert on welding. Producing a video on welding would imply that. But even a noob like me knows there are dangers from the fumes from welding or heating galvanized metals.
i have a question... is it possible to weld a piece of galvanized pipe to ungalvanized spring steel???.... i have a home made machete blade of spring steel, and i want to put a handle on it of old galvanized pipe i have... is that possible???... thanks for the info.... and what is your take on the fumes coming off hot galvanized???
Luis There’s being a pussy and being plain stupid, welding galvi without a respirator is painful at least, and lethal in high enough doses, you really want to risk that?
Glav has a different way of being welded just like stainless, high carbon, and aluminum all have different ways that are better to weld. You can use regular wire on galv with no problems. Run low and slow and you won't get holes. You shouldn't be trying to rip a bead across plate like that anyways. I run a wire speed of 140 and 15.8 volts and never have any problems
I was thinking about trying to tackweld some hog wire or hog panel to a couple of gates and didnt know if his welder would be right. Fortunately, it is already set up with flux core! I will try this reverse pooling effect, but I think it will have to be hog panel, not wire i Imagine the wire will burn.
Just have a question I always thought that you could not weld galvanized because of tocsin gas that is released from the galvanized material is that not true. I thought that the gas that it released was very poisonous. Maybe you could explain a little bit about that in one of your videos.
My company is trying to switch from SMAW to FCAW in structural environment where it's prone to all bad elements and get a bad weld outcome, where 7018 electrode can easily be dealt with. Wind, galvanized or a little dirt here and there, with FCAW, weld materials needs to almost clean to have a decent weld outcome while SMAW, just turn the heat a bit up and porosity can be eliminated. Anyone welded with FCAW processes on the field, feel free to give me insights, thanks
Nothing like sticking your face in the plume to inhale all the bad stuff in the air after the weld you done at warp speed , 3-4 inches in 5 or so seconds ,maybe just grind the galvanized out of the way ,it would be much safer at the same time .
@@LemonySnicket-EUC 40 Yrs; much respect! Building a gate 1" Gav. pipe (Used well pipe) and forged fittings. I want an "old timey look". What if I torch braze it in brass? Due-able? 12ft x 4 Driveway gate w/ wire support., Thx hp
I'm a welding student in high school right now and can tell you for a fact that there is multiple issues here. 1. Where the hell is your respirator? If you were welding on a flat steel plate i can see why you don't have one but with GALVANIZED!!! 2. Do you know how to mig weld? You're making content on a topic that experts, beginners, and teachers watch on a daily basis and you weld like that? For starters slow down, you're going way too fast which doesn't give time for the puddle to widen. As said before, teachers, experts, and beginners watch these videos on the daily. How are the beginners, as well as, apprentices supposed to learn and be better from this. Information was kind of accurate, but missed out ONE HUGE detail... The gases that are put into the air because of the galvanized metal. Not being mean here, but This is common sense and the fact that you didn't mention about any danger relating to this process tells me that you don't know what is going on.
@@marcotte6608 based on comments, this high schooler is 10x more professional than you and I would hire him in a heartbeat without even looking at your shitty resumé.
Im certainly no expert, but i work with galvanized steel often, and unless im dealing with wind, mig is preferred to fcaw.I find the galvanized metals i deal with are usually a thinner guage and fcaw tends to be more eager to blow a hole than mig. If blow out wasnt a concern id actually go stick over mig or fcaw I also noticed a bunch of panzies want warnings about the fumes. *Grow up* Take some personal accountability, and let darwin do the rest. You go out and buy a welder and start zapping metal with minimal research, a little brush with metal fume fever is what you get (and maybe a small fire and some minor burns). Fcaw smoke is nasty stuff and airborne zinc oxide isnt pleasant either but you probably will end up with a nasty headache and some nausea. *Its not weld.coms job to protect you* and as long as you learn your lesson and dont huff the stuff on the daily, youll be fine
The "pansies" that want the warnings about the fumes aren't asking about it for our own sake. We already know it's a problem. Use your noggin. If we're bringing it up, it's because we're concerned that some n00bie who has less than 5hrs experience is gone tackle a weekend fencing project and weld for 18hrs straight in small one-car garage while standing directly over the work. It's called concern for others. Like when you flash your lights at oncoming cars to let them know about a speed trap or give a heads up that you just dropped a 15 megaton deuce in the water closet so it might need to air out for 30minutes. Zinc fumes are not something they teach in middle school. We want people who are new to welding to have good technique and to do it safely. If you're showing someone how do it right, safety is a critical part of the training. That doesn't mean weld.com is /liable/, it just means they weren't as thorough as they could be and this could be better. 🤦♂️
@@SolarMillUSA Thing is, Im saying that I have 0 sympathy for an idiot who buys a welder and starts zapping metals without checking the risks. Flux core and Mig wire come with warnings on the labels about fumes and checking the safety data on whatever material you're welding The only scenario in which a newb may be unknowingly welding galvanized would be if they took a fence post from the street and started welding it. The stuff sold in stores is clearly labelled galvanized, zinc plated, whatever. If you dont have the time to google "what is galvanizing" or "Zinc MSDS" before you start welding it... I find it hard to sympathize. Theres other warning signs too. Like the white zinc powder that forms around the bead. Google what that is. first result "that's burnt zinc, you better wear a respirator, that stuff is gross" Look, You're probably a better welder than me hands down. But frankly it's not weld.coms or your job to protect haphazard hobbiest who cant spare 15 minutes to make a few google searches. HALF the time people find out something is hazardous to weld, they will just do it anyways safety be damned.
This is a training and DIY help video. You don't train people, do you? When I'm showing employees how to do something, the first thing we talk about is safety. Not because I'm worried about getting sued, but because I care about their health. Same thing when I'm teaching to friends and family members. So why would I make a video for strangers on the internet and leave out the one obscure fact about a health hazard that might make them very sick? It's something you don't notice happening until it's too late. You're making so many assumptions that someone is gonna think to google galvanizing, or think there's anything weird with the white zinc powder around the bead. Beginners have zero point of reference. It takes TEN SECONDS to say *"As a word of caution, welding galvanized metal can release zinc fumes that are very toxic. So you either need to remove the coating from the weld area or be sure to do this in a well ventilated area."* 10 seconds dude. I'm a multi-process fabricator and do this for a living. I can't tell you how many times a single phrase of knowledge saved my ass when I'm working on a project that is outside my usual area of expertise. Fairly recently: don't use red cans of brake cleaner to prep metal parts before welding. I frequently use solvents to clean parts, and when they come off the lathe brake cleaner is one of the fastest ways to remove cutting fluid since I don't have a parts washer. I have both the green and red cans of brake cleaner. I could have easily used the red can and then proceeded to weld. Oh, don't know what I'm talking about? Maybe you can google it. Or figure it out yourself. Not my problem right? 20+ years of fabricating and there's still a lot I don't know. SO THANK YOU to the very helpful persons on the internet that have saved my ass countless times. I will *never* get annoyed at a professional giving health and safety tips as part of a video, even if I've heard it a dozen times. This training video may be the only thing that someone watches before jumping into a project. *10 seconds*
@@SolarMillUSA With all due respect, Its not like weld.com is telling people to spray brake cleaner onto the material before welding. Weld.com's not passing this off as a "Everything you need to know video". This is a quick tip. now if weld.com said, "This is everything you need to know about welding galvanized steel in 1 video" Then you should chime in. If weld.com said "Fuck respirators, they're for pussies, now lets weld some cadmium while naked" You might have a case. Ever been in a tour group? There is always some know it all who constantly chimes in, interrupts or fact checks the tour guide. Souring the experience and for no other reason than to flex in front of strangers.
cool man flex. You're tough. We get it. The rest of us are concerned about people new to the sport who might not know better. This is a glaring oversight for a video that starts off by "so you just got a new welder and are having trouble welding galvanized steel." That context tells most of us "whoa, hey, lets back up a little bit and talk about zinc fumes."
I've welded both galvanized and cadmium plated steel. Both are bad for your lungs. The galvanized sometimes gives you lung irritation, but the cadmium can make you very sick. I was welding some painted steel once and within 24 hr. I was very ill, with bad "flu-like" symptoms. It took nearly a week for the the effects to gradually wear off. Much worse than the effects of welding galvanized. I later learned that it was caused by the cadmium plating under the paint. Note that I had ground off the paint near the area to be welded, but the heat had vaporized some of the plating nearby. This was enough to cause severe health effects. The lesson is to wear a respirator and use ventilation if at all possible when welding hazardous or unknown materials. Yes, there is such a thing as "metal fume fever" and you will be more cautious if you are unlucky enough to ever have it.
Thank you for that. You make a very good point regarding the removal of the paint. Basically the weld prep area needs to be big enough to cover the heat effected zone.
I am currently researching the possibility of using some galvanised sheet that I have left over from my powder coating oven build for some box section on the chassis of the car I am building on my RUclips channel. Thank you for sharing your experience. I think I will be sticking to mild steel sheet for the fab work. Kind regards Paul (from "48-SPOKES")
@@itsalldoable Metal coatings are something to be cautious about, no doubt about it. I haven't had any problems when I wear a respirator. The one I use when I'm not too lazy to put it on is the 3M with the pink P100 filters. The half-face size with the filters on fits under regular welding hoods just fine.
*Another advantage to the flux-core wire (besides not needing expensive gas) is that you can weld outside in the wind where the fumes are whisked away so they won't hurt you. Pretty much everything on the steel that is not more steel will hurt you when welding (if you breath in the fumes)-- so if you are in an enclosed space either a respirator or external breathing air system are mandatory. BTW-- off topic, but you can even get gasless flux core wire that will weld stainless steel. The little {cheap} "hobby" wire-feed machines that only weld with flux-core wire (and also low-cost stick welders) are starting to look far more useful...no?*
I weld galvanized at work all the time with mig without issue.. Looks great but hurts the lungs.. Just flap disc the area clean
I MIG weld galvanized steel all day. Lincoln electric 455 power wave using pulse, 400/0.92 is my setting. welds like a dream. I've passed all my C.W.B. certifications using this method and the steel always broke before the weld. The hardest thing to avoid is pinholes, your travel speed needs to be perfect. (Edit) I don't remove the coating either. Where I work, there is no time to be grinding each joint. Gotta get those parts out of the booth ASAP
Same here I’m in Australia
Who is this guy? Where's Mr. Moffat? Bob was one of the best instructors on here. God bless and work safe.
Dang! All these years I've been welding galvanized with a MIG process only to find out now, it can't be done.
I kinda feel like Gilligan when the Skipper told him he couldn't fly.
You really do need to put the warning about the gasses.
+Tuckerman Fein why the hell are you watching a video about it if you know best ? EXPLAIN THAT !
Makoshark26, I'd be happy to explain. First off, I don't know everything, I'm just a man that enjoys welding, and I watch these videos to puck up tips and ideas, much the same as you, I would imagine. Yes, my tone was a bit sarcastic, but the point was, in this case at least, the information was not only incorrect, it could also prove to be deadly because there was no information about the proper safety precautions given.
seriously?! zero warning about metal fume fever courtesy of the zinc that is the key to galvanizing steel... I expected far more from the producers as well as the MIG expert...
Thanks ive been trying to mig galvanized all day and it was incredibly difficult. Ill try flux next time.
I Mig weld galv sheet metal of various thicknesses together all day long with no problem.
I give the metal a light sanding with a disc on my grinder. And I use a extraction vent to take care of the fumes.
I've never had a problem Mig welding galvanised steel fence panels using agroshield and 0.9mm wire. Always weld outside using a respirator and a fan.
Question: For FCAW, do you know if using a stainless steel flux core wire can weld galvanized steel?
One look at this guy and I knew he knows what he's talkin about.
Should always grind the galvanized off but I know sometimes out in the field your under the gun and don't always have time
question...can you just remove the galvanised coating with an abrasive ?
That helps so much.
How Hazardous is grinding off Coating. Think an N95 Mask w/ ventilation is enough?
Thx
If your Forman insist on you not grinding the galvanized away to save 2 minutes. Could try to do first pass with 6010, for overhead or vertical. Then proceed with 7016 to finish of the correct seize weld. It to each is own. Different doesn’t always mean wrong.
I'm surprised this worked considering zinc has a very low boiling point it turns to a gas when welded which is what causes the porosity. It seems that would be the case no matter what flux/shielding you use. I always just grind off the galvanized coating before welding and never a problem....considering you're blasting the coating off either way , no worse on corrosion resistance either.
You had no gas on the mig weld and moved to fast.
In the ship yard we refered to it as the sink-nausea. The remedy was to drink milk when finished puking, and it was only a problem the first day. The next day and so on, welding zink was not a problem. It was just one of these things we had to do to keep the job. Luckily it was banned by the unions, without proper extraction. Same as in most civilised countries today.
So my sympathy for the barfooted workers on the beached ships in Bangladesh and like.
im welding galvanized fence tubing 1 5/8" .090" and i switched my MIG machine to flux core and got better welds... went back to mig and now im here trying to figure out what i did wrong... i hope i just need to pull the puddle.. thanks for the video
The best practice though is to remove the galvanization with a flap disk, weld it with mild steel wire on electrode positive and then when you have finished the weld, allow it to cool then spray it with a galvanize spray.
If you weld directly though galvanization then you will be exposed to toxic gases.
+luke cooper No vapor mask nor air take-away...lots of newby welders need to know before they wreck their lungs.
+John Ranalletta thats why i thought it was necessary to explain not to weld on galvanized metal unless the surface has been removed unlike the video explains.
+luke cooper
I thought galvanizing was an electro plating of steel with zinc. I wasn't aware you could simply spray it on.
You can buy a galvanizing spray paint after a repair has been carried out. The paint has a high zinc particulate which covers the part in zinc. dahveed284
luke cooper yeah that's what we do as well in some cases we don't grind the galvanized coat off we just weld with the 70s6 mild steel wire and about 90% of the time works great even have some nice dime stacks and some silicon deposit remaining common when welding carbon steel
I remove the galvanized coating with muriatic acid. Takes about a minute to get to beautiful bare metal. rinse off and weld away! spray new coating on when finished. Available at home depot, etc...
What if you remove the galvanized coating with muratic acid??? It removed the coating well. I done it an the welds turned out great. I used 75 25 gas an 0.23 wire. Set my gas at about 25
Buddy didn’t even have the gas on 😂
Will the flux core welding be strong on galvanized steel
If done properly
Flux core is stronger than traditional mig
I was a little surprised to not hear any warnings of the possible health issues associated with the flumes from welding (any process) galvanized metals.
It would have been good to mention those risks,
It would have been better to discuss safety precautions to protect yourself from those risks,
It would have been even better to discuss and demonstrate those safety precautions.
+dahveed284 Then make a video about it !
+makoshark26
No no. I don't claim to be an expert on welding. Producing a video on welding would imply that.
But even a noob like me knows there are dangers from the fumes from welding or heating galvanized metals.
agreed
dahveed284 ghh
For all you dumb asses.. this isn’t a health video... search that if that’s what your looking for..
this man is awesome!!
i have a question... is it possible to weld a piece of galvanized pipe to ungalvanized spring steel???.... i have a home made machete blade of spring steel, and i want to put a handle on it of old galvanized pipe i have... is that possible???... thanks for the info.... and what is your take on the fumes coming off hot galvanized???
Yes. Either flux or gas will work.
use a flap disc and grind away all the galvanization from the weld area, and ideally back a little bit further
dunk the handle in muriatic acid for about a minute, rinse and weld away.
no respirator? worst idea ever
I agree 100%
Luis There’s being a pussy and being plain stupid, welding galvi without a respirator is painful at least, and lethal in high enough doses, you really want to risk that?
Got a bad sicking from it myself gives you the shakes and the sh....
@Luis
fucking idiot
Luis Go hug some milk.
Paul, where are you, you were great....Paul in Orlando
I don't weld galvanized without grinding it all off using respirator,
A proper respirator is required.
I was wondering at the start of the video why so many dislike.Now I know..... lol
How Hazardous is grinding off Coating. Think an N95 Mask w/ ventilation is enough?
Thx
hp
"He who can, does; he who cannot, teaches." - George Bernard Shaw
He who can learned by someone who teaches.
Glav has a different way of being welded just like stainless, high carbon, and aluminum all have different ways that are better to weld. You can use regular wire on galv with no problems. Run low and slow and you won't get holes. You shouldn't be trying to rip a bead across plate like that anyways. I run a wire speed of 140 and 15.8 volts and never have any problems
Question: For FCAW, do you know if using a stainless steel flux core wire can weld 12 gauge galvanized steel?
I was thinking about trying to tackweld some hog wire or hog panel to a couple of gates and didnt know if his welder would be right. Fortunately, it is already set up with flux core! I will try this reverse pooling effect, but I think it will have to be hog panel, not wire i Imagine the wire will burn.
Thank you so much for this. Learned more about my welder for sure. I do have a gate to repair this will really help.
Well done
I mig galvanized to steel daily and galvanized to stainless daily. Miller 350.
Question: For FCAW, do you know if using a stainless steel flux core wire can weld galvanized steel?
Just have a question
I always thought that you could not weld galvanized because of tocsin gas that is released from the galvanized material is that not true. I thought that the gas that it released was very poisonous. Maybe you could explain a little bit about that in one of your videos.
Yeah bud it’ll make you cramp up and puke yellow foam
Do it outside
@4:24 that sure does NOT look like a nice smooth weld bead to me
I could tell it was gunna be ugly by how fast he was going. Probably explains why we don't see him much anymore lol
hi there, is that flux-core WITH gas or straight gasless?
thanks
My company is trying to switch from SMAW to FCAW in structural environment where it's prone to all bad elements and get a bad weld outcome, where 7018 electrode can easily be dealt with. Wind, galvanized or a little dirt here and there, with FCAW, weld materials needs to almost clean to have a decent weld outcome while SMAW, just turn the heat a bit up and porosity can be eliminated. Anyone welded with FCAW processes on the field, feel free to give me insights, thanks
Good video but WEAR A MASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing like sticking your face in the plume to inhale all the bad stuff in the air after the weld you done at warp speed , 3-4 inches in 5 or so seconds ,maybe just grind the galvanized out of the way ,it would be much safer at the same time .
No comment. I agree either a down draft table or respirator.
Or both!🤔
Thanks for the tips
OK, but I always heard it produces harmful vapors. Can it be safe outdoors without a mask?
I've done it that way for 40 years. Never an issue.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC 40 Yrs; much respect!
Building a gate 1" Gav. pipe
(Used well pipe) and forged fittings.
I want an "old timey look".
What if
I torch braze it in brass? Due-able? 12ft x 4 Driveway gate w/ wire support.,
Thx
hp
no link
i always thought that welding galvanized was extremely bad for your health !!
O it is
@@glehr1791 How Hazardous is grinding off Coating. Think an N95 Mask w/ ventilation is enough?
Thx
That dude is crazy for not wearing a respirator, yeesh
Really? Nothing wrong with breathing the fumes from welding galvanized steel?
Was he using gas with this or not?
You shouldn't weld galvanised ever at all. Get it shot blasted first. You can't buy new lungs.
you can hear the galvo flu in his throat hahah poor guy
Not from a 5 second weld.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC yea but he still should demonstrate the proper PPE, or at least say why he didn't feel it was necessary.
Fast weld..nope
I was always told to use a papr system or respirator when welding galvanized. Dude just doesn't care or what?
Not a single word about the hazards of welding galvanized metal or of the need for a respirator.
steel must be clean.. all other is not welding
Ummm......
I'm a welding student in high school right now and can tell you for a fact that there is multiple issues here. 1. Where the hell is your respirator? If you were welding on a flat steel plate i can see why you don't have one but with GALVANIZED!!! 2. Do you know how to mig weld? You're making content on a topic that experts, beginners, and teachers watch on a daily basis and you weld like that? For starters slow down, you're going way too fast which doesn't give time for the puddle to widen. As said before, teachers, experts, and beginners watch these videos on the daily. How are the beginners, as well as, apprentices supposed to learn and be better from this. Information was kind of accurate, but missed out ONE HUGE detail... The gases that are put into the air because of the galvanized metal. Not being mean here, but This is common sense and the fact that you didn't mention about any danger relating to this process tells me that you don't know what is going on.
@@marcotte6608 based on comments, this high schooler is 10x more professional than you and I would hire him in a heartbeat without even looking at your shitty resumé.
@@SolarMillUSA its a good thing I'm not looking for a job then isn't it?
@@marcotte6608 since you deleted your original comment I'm guessing you realized it didn't age well. Nice.
@@SolarMillUSArelax dad i just didn't want a bunch of notifications. This kid is still a tool just like you.
Try a mask next time. Galvanized fumes, NO GOOD. .
Im certainly no expert, but i work with galvanized steel often, and unless im dealing with wind, mig is preferred to fcaw.I find the galvanized metals i deal with are usually a thinner guage and fcaw tends to be more eager to blow a hole than mig. If blow out wasnt a concern id actually go stick over mig or fcaw
I also noticed a bunch of panzies want warnings about the fumes. *Grow up* Take some personal accountability, and let darwin do the rest. You go out and buy a welder and start zapping metal with minimal research, a little brush with metal fume fever is what you get (and maybe a small fire and some minor burns). Fcaw smoke is nasty stuff and airborne zinc oxide isnt pleasant either but you probably will end up with a nasty headache and some nausea. *Its not weld.coms job to protect you* and as long as you learn your lesson and dont huff the stuff on the daily, youll be fine
The "pansies" that want the warnings about the fumes aren't asking about it for our own sake. We already know it's a problem. Use your noggin. If we're bringing it up, it's because we're concerned that some n00bie who has less than 5hrs experience is gone tackle a weekend fencing project and weld for 18hrs straight in small one-car garage while standing directly over the work. It's called concern for others. Like when you flash your lights at oncoming cars to let them know about a speed trap or give a heads up that you just dropped a 15 megaton deuce in the water closet so it might need to air out for 30minutes. Zinc fumes are not something they teach in middle school. We want people who are new to welding to have good technique and to do it safely. If you're showing someone how do it right, safety is a critical part of the training. That doesn't mean weld.com is /liable/, it just means they weren't as thorough as they could be and this could be better. 🤦♂️
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Thing is, Im saying that I have 0 sympathy for an idiot who buys a welder and starts zapping metals without checking the risks.
Flux core and Mig wire come with warnings on the labels about fumes and checking the safety data on whatever material you're welding
The only scenario in which a newb may be unknowingly welding galvanized would be if they took a fence post from the street and started welding it.
The stuff sold in stores is clearly labelled galvanized, zinc plated, whatever.
If you dont have the time to google "what is galvanizing" or "Zinc MSDS" before you start welding it... I find it hard to sympathize.
Theres other warning signs too. Like the white zinc powder that forms around the bead. Google what that is.
first result "that's burnt zinc, you better wear a respirator, that stuff is gross"
Look, You're probably a better welder than me hands down. But frankly it's not weld.coms or your job to protect haphazard hobbiest who cant spare 15 minutes to make a few google searches.
HALF the time people find out something is hazardous to weld, they will just do it anyways safety be damned.
This is a training and DIY help video. You don't train people, do you? When I'm showing employees how to do something, the first thing we talk about is safety. Not because I'm worried about getting sued, but because I care about their health. Same thing when I'm teaching to friends and family members. So why would I make a video for strangers on the internet and leave out the one obscure fact about a health hazard that might make them very sick? It's something you don't notice happening until it's too late. You're making so many assumptions that someone is gonna think to google galvanizing, or think there's anything weird with the white zinc powder around the bead.
Beginners have zero point of reference. It takes TEN SECONDS to say *"As a word of caution, welding galvanized metal can release zinc fumes that are very toxic. So you either need to remove the coating from the weld area or be sure to do this in a well ventilated area."* 10 seconds dude.
I'm a multi-process fabricator and do this for a living. I can't tell you how many times a single phrase of knowledge saved my ass when I'm working on a project that is outside my usual area of expertise. Fairly recently: don't use red cans of brake cleaner to prep metal parts before welding. I frequently use solvents to clean parts, and when they come off the lathe brake cleaner is one of the fastest ways to remove cutting fluid since I don't have a parts washer. I have both the green and red cans of brake cleaner. I could have easily used the red can and then proceeded to weld. Oh, don't know what I'm talking about? Maybe you can google it. Or figure it out yourself. Not my problem right?
20+ years of fabricating and there's still a lot I don't know. SO THANK YOU to the very helpful persons on the internet that have saved my ass countless times. I will *never* get annoyed at a professional giving health and safety tips as part of a video, even if I've heard it a dozen times.
This training video may be the only thing that someone watches before jumping into a project. *10 seconds*
@@SolarMillUSA With all due respect, Its not like weld.com is telling people to spray brake cleaner onto the material before welding.
Weld.com's not passing this off as a "Everything you need to know video". This is a quick tip.
now if weld.com said, "This is everything you need to know about welding galvanized steel in 1 video" Then you should chime in.
If weld.com said "Fuck respirators, they're for pussies, now lets weld some cadmium while naked" You might have a case.
Ever been in a tour group? There is always some know it all who constantly chimes in, interrupts or fact checks the tour guide. Souring the experience and for no other reason than to flex in front of strangers.
Fun game. Take a shot for every comment made by a RUclips safety officer, with no other useful knowledge, about the dangers of inhalation.
cool man flex. You're tough. We get it. The rest of us are concerned about people new to the sport who might not know better. This is a glaring oversight for a video that starts off by "so you just got a new welder and are having trouble welding galvanized steel." That context tells most of us "whoa, hey, lets back up a little bit and talk about zinc fumes."
Time to hang up the boots champ