I just sold my 23 KX 450. Getting older, I care less about results and more about fun. Undecided what to buy. A lot of people suggest I get a 350. But I’m not concerned about power. I just want a bike that feels playful and steers really well with a lower feel on the front end and holds up well on the rear. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. At the moment I’m leaning towards this yz250f. Thanks for the content. !!
gotta be a Euro bike owner. hey its ok that some of us love all brands just because we like bikes. we prefer some over others but see a place for every brand in a positive light.
Great review! Are you shifting a lot more on it compared to Austrian bikes? How does the engine braking on freed up map compare to the amount of engine braking on say the ktm ? Trying to decide between ktm and yamaha. Looking for longer gears and less engine braking. I'm not super picky about suspension.
Hi, I’m torn between the 2024 and 2025. I can get the 2024 for £500 cheaper. Would you say the suspension changes are really that noticeable? If so how? Regarding the bottom end bog/gurgle that’s I’ve head about the 2024, do you think the 2024 and 2025 engine will feel exactly the same with the same map in? I’m worried the 2024 has a different base map than the 2025 meaning you can’t get the 2024 to to work as well.
the 2024 and 2025 both need Twisted's air box fix-kit. way better low end. in 2024 they made the air box too big and it reduced air velocity. more air flow is less air speed. the balance is minute and they sacrificed this balance for top end. you older guys remember reed stuffers on the 2-strokes. this is the same principle. fill in that space and you get more torque. and no i don't work for Twisted. i just hate boggy engines. the other option is get the Honda. it now has the best low end. if you wanna lift the front end when going slow in the woods...
it's a dilemma. depends on what style you ride. if you don't race then try a CRF or YZF 250 first. also its cool to hear that the Rockstar special edition Husky has gone back to full travel so their 350 with the REP spring conversion may solve our problems. i'm light but just find the 250F's too gutless down low.
@yukonjon5964 yeah I've always preferred the 450s and am definitely leaning towards that way but the newer 250s are sick and little lighter and cheaper price and I love the raspy sound they have. But I'll probably end up going 450 most likely
@@dylanp9211 i never really thought about big bore kits for the 250's because it would push you up to a larger cc class in racing. but if not racing, then that may be a great way to have fun with a lighter, better handling bike.
Always love your reviews Michael! Any idea when your 250F shootout will be released?
450 Shootout coming tomorrow, 250 not until late October.
@@vitalmx thanks for the info, looking forward to it!
Man, a yzf 350 would be just about perfect.
I just sold my 23 KX 450. Getting older, I care less about results and more about fun. Undecided what to buy. A lot of people suggest I get a 350. But I’m not concerned about power. I just want a bike that feels playful and steers really well with a lower feel on the front end and holds up well on the rear. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. At the moment I’m leaning towards this yz250f. Thanks for the content. !!
Whoever buys this or the 24 250, make sure you are using the Yamaha hard-hitting map, best map by far
over here in the uk a brand new crf 250r is £7250 for a 2025 model the yamaha is £9000 for a 2025 thats quite a difference
and the Honda is more fun to ride. has better low end too.
This or the new Honda for a slow vet?
Ooo, that's tough. What bike do you have currently?
gotta be a Euro bike owner.
hey its ok that some of us love all brands just because we like bikes. we prefer some over others but see a place for every brand in a positive light.
Great review! Are you shifting a lot more on it compared to Austrian bikes? How does the engine braking on freed up map compare to the amount of engine braking on say the ktm ? Trying to decide between ktm and yamaha. Looking for longer gears and less engine braking. I'm not super picky about suspension.
Austrian bikes require less shifting than the Yamaha.
Hi, I’m torn between the 2024 and 2025. I can get the 2024 for £500 cheaper.
Would you say the suspension changes are really that noticeable? If so how?
Regarding the bottom end bog/gurgle that’s I’ve head about the 2024, do you think the 2024 and 2025 engine will feel exactly the same with the same map in? I’m worried the 2024 has a different base map than the 2025 meaning you can’t get the 2024 to to work as well.
Waiting for the kx250 reviews
Monday!
What does Yamaha recommend for sag setting?
Hi Michael, i would love to see a 250 shootout with the bikes having a ECU and pipe, maybe some mid range fuel as well to see how they fair then.
You think the CRF250 Works Edition pulls harder than the stock Yamaha
Yes.
the 2024 and 2025 both need Twisted's air box fix-kit. way better low end. in 2024 they made the air box too big and it reduced air velocity. more air flow is less air speed. the balance is minute and they sacrificed this balance for top end. you older guys remember reed stuffers on the 2-strokes. this is the same principle. fill in that space and you get more torque.
and no i don't work for Twisted. i just hate boggy engines. the other option is get the Honda. it now has the best low end. if you wanna lift the front end when going slow in the woods...
What's' interesting is they make identical low-end torque and hp on a dyno.
@@vitalmx 2023 to 2024... or 2024 to 2025...???
You rip Mikey
Thanks! - ML
The exhaust absolutely sucks
Wanted a 450. But man idk might have to go with a Yamaha or honda 250. I'm bigger at 205lbs though.
it's a dilemma. depends on what style you ride. if you don't race then try a CRF or YZF 250 first. also its cool to hear that the Rockstar special edition Husky has gone back to full travel so their 350 with the REP spring conversion may solve our problems. i'm light but just find the 250F's too gutless down low.
@yukonjon5964 yeah I've always preferred the 450s and am definitely leaning towards that way but the newer 250s are sick and little lighter and cheaper price and I love the raspy sound they have. But I'll probably end up going 450 most likely
@@dylanp9211 i never really thought about big bore kits for the 250's because it would push you up to a larger cc class in racing. but if not racing, then that may be a great way to have fun with a lighter, better handling bike.
195lbs in this video, modern day 250s are pretty darn good.
@@yukonjon5964 The 350 model would still be lowered suspension.
For math
Deegan might win championships on this bike but I think Kawasaki is going to win championships next year