What Owning a Dump Trailer Is REALLY Like - Watch Before You Buy
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2021
- Comparing profitability of owning a dump trailer compared to paying a 3rd party to haul materials in a dump truck. I hauled 4 tons of crushed limestone today in my 7x12 dump trailer, and I discussed how profitable it is to use a dump trailer in a tractor work business
It is really a question of dump truck vs dump trailer and which is more convenient and more cost effective
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😂 0:15 😅❤😢❤😮😊😊🎉
I bought a dump trailer for doing tree work and junk hauling, I don’t regret it.
💥 My trailer has paid for itself vs having material delivered. Plus I could now sell it for 2k more than what I paid for it new 5 years ago. It’s a money saver.
*Keep on tractoring!*
Thanks for watching
Hope you are doing well Jon
I want my stuff when I want it. Don't care about the cost savings my life only has so many moments in it.
Yeah, I feel the same way about it. That’s why I have a dump trailer and I’ve actually bought a bigger dump trailer since this video is recorded.
I’m just giving people a point of perspective so they know what they’re getting
Brock, this is the exact question that I’ve been thinking about. Thanks for sharing your decision making process. It helped me a lot.
Hey thanks a lot man. I pick my trailer up tomorrow. I really appreciate the safety tips.
Great video! I bought a 2022 Carson 12x7 dual axle and man I love that thing! It is so handy and convenient 👍🏼
I find your insight very helpful, thank you. Also seemed very honest and non bias and weren’t a jerkoff like some people can be. Well done. Subscribed.
Great video! I experienced my first fishtail this year. This video is a lifesaver.
Thank you for the discussion
Brock - lots of great info in this video. Well-thought. A dump trailer has been on my wish list for a few years. With the way prices are - I think it will continue to be on my wish list for several years to come. - Chad
Yeah. I talked to the dealership about trading my dump trailer in on a gooseneck and they said they could give me more than I paid for it
Clearly that means the new trailer would price will have shot up as well
Lots of great information in this video, Brock. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
All great points. All about what fits your needs and budget.
Right, everybody’s situation is different but the hard definitely handy to have
Agree on the 14 foot. A goose neck trailer does handle better but there heavier which will decrease load captivity. For every pound you add you subtract from payload. I also have a half ton with the heavy payload package, intentional purchase. I agree, if you can afford it, get it, convenience is the best reason.
Excellent article. I 'm a home owner living two miles from a quarry. They charge me @ $455.00 for @18 yards of ab stone, $80 0f which goes for delivery. Ten loads ==$800 for delivery as opposed to $8,000. for one dump trailer. I live on 20 acres and need a lot of stone. Still I don't think it would be worth my while to buy a dump trailer, especially since I'd be hauling the stone in a 1/2 Nissan rated at 5,000lbs towing. And I live in the foothills to boot, which means pulling all that weight up and down some fairly steep stretches. So, if you're in a situation like mine, give it some thought and you'll realize that 80 bucks delivery versus $8000 for a trailer is a no-brainer of a decision.
Great video Brock. I am thinking about buying a dump trailer soon and I am glad you made this video. Thank you.
Glad I could help.
Thanks for watching
Ive watched this video several times as i start my business. I have a good knowledge base as an equipment operator, but i pick up something each time. I’m starting with getting my CDL here in a couple weeks. I’m also buying a 7x16 with 4 foot side dump trailer. The higher sides will have its own drawbacks more weight of trailer less capacity, also more versatile on my farm. The process can be mind blowing with how man times you go back and forth and looking at numbers.
I’m there with you. For me personally 7 x 16 is the best size because it lets me get my machines into it when needed.
Thanks for the thoughtful video.
I own a dump trailer, and there is one more detail that you may not have covered. That is driving your loaded dump trailer over rough terrain. Ruts, humps, potholes, slopes, etc. I had an incident when the pit loaded my trailer slightly heavy to one side. Not much of a problem, or so I thought. When I got to where I was going to dump, I had to turn around in a tight area. The area included a very slight slope, but some bumpy ground. I think that during that maneuver, the weight got transferred to a single tire on the heavy loaded downhill side. Most likely while going over uneven ground. The result was a slightly bent axle. That tire would occasionally rub on the frame. I noticed the mark while I was dumping the load. It wasn't enough to rub off the paint, just wipe the dirt off of the frame. The clearance between that tire and the frame was less than the others. I ordered a new axle but continued using the trailer. There were no signs of that tire rubbing when I stayed on level even ground, but the dirt would rub off the frame when I drove over uneven ground. The axle has since been replaced and there are no indications of tire/frame contact. It was a very expensive mistake on my part. I now pay very close attention to surface conditions when pulling a loaded trailer. I wish that had come up in a RUclips video or one of the comments before I damaged the axle. So, I'm adding it in the comments here today. Love your videos!
Thanks for sharing. That sounds like an expensive lesson. What did an axle cost?
I watched a video before buying mine of one that was loaded so far to one side that they lifted it and it twisted and damaged the trailer
Definitely something to watch out for
@@RockhillfarmYT Well, by the time I paid for shipping, sales tax, and the original cost, the price was just under $1000. That left a mark! Ouch!
Great thoughts and advice on this subject, thanks bud.
Thanks for watching
I have always had a DT over the 25 yrs of remodeling . Incredibly useful . It was so rusted and old I sold it for a farm use . Now I’m semi retired 66 and I still want another one . But I won’t use it all the time like I used to . I just put a deposit on a new galvanized one 7x12 . Hd 14k rated I have a few properties that need work and trash removal time to time . Idk if it’s worth it or not at this point in the game . There is maintenance on these as well and tires get dry rotted . It may be better to rent one for sidewalk debris or a dumpster
But they are so handy just hate being without one . Loading right is a serious issue . My father lost control and totaled my new truck once in 97 . I had a load of bricks shift on me as well and it started whipping . Have to use your brake controller or if you can accelerate to straighten it out . Cant touch your brakes or your done
I use to own a mason dump. I'm a former mechanic and work on everything my self..that thing was a money pit and expensive to insure. I now just pay some one when I need stone..now that's convenient. Here there is very very little money in moving/delivering material. Last year I was paying $2 more per ton than the quarry was selling it for.
Good information, very good video...thanks
Very good analysis for the need for a dump trailer. Remember to keep to speed limit in Quapaw!!
Yeah, that’s definitely a speed trap
Great video sir thx for your time and expertise.
Thanks for watching
Excellent video and tips thank you
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Like you mentioned in your rental video, the cost of time is overlooked when people calculate the cost of owning versus renting. When you're developing property and don't live on it, your time is very limited (and valuable). As a weekend warrior, it would take me the better part of a Saturday to gather up rental equipment for a job on the farm leaving me only Sunday to use it....plus the return of the equipment. For example, I'm expecting delivery of a 12" trenching bucket for my excavator today that cost me $1000 but it saves me from renting a trencher multiple times for the hundreds of feet of water and electric I have to bury. I think I have my wife convinced I "need" a dump trailer, although I'd really rather have a dump truck!!
Agreed. That’s kind of where my mind is. Would I have been better served with a dump truck.
I’m really happy to have the dump trailer it’s just annoying whenever I still pay someone to haul
"although I'd really rather have a dump truck!!" Atta boy... now where do we hide it?
The wife says I don’t need a dump truck. I don’t understand. Everybody needs a dump truck….
Truck is higher lift to load and higher center and danger of roll over...
I have watched a lot of videos on dump trailers and dump trailer businesses recently. This one I really enjoyed as you bring up some things I should have considered before buying my dump trailer. I purchased a 7X16 14K Goose Neck back in August. I haven't used it a lot yet but I will use it more when I retire. The one thing I would suggest to new dump trailer owners when loading rock the first few times is take it to a Cat scale before loading and after. This will show you your weights on your axles. You can get a much better feel for what you can really load in the trailer and stay legal. My truck is a 06 Ram 3500 and I know I am legal in Texas with 5 tons on. I haven't tried it yet but I think I can get 6 tons on and still be within legal limits on all axles.
Thanks for the feedback on it.
I am in the market for a gooseneck 16 footer . . . love your weight tip.
@@danielchambers1958 I did load up 6 tons of rock a few weeks ago and while my gross wt was still under 26k (not by much) the axle weight on the trailer was over by a little more than 1k. So I could have been ticketed for exceeding the weight rating on the trailer. I did still have some weight capacity on the truck available and may have been able to shift some weight forward in the trailer to axle out. I have decided to use 5 tons as my load limit as I would rather not have to move the load around with a shovel (been there done that). I did find out that a single axle dump truck could only haul about 6 tons (and remain legal) so I can be competitive with people using that type of equipment.
@@timmcmurray1370 Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video! Once I get the money I’d like to get a dump trailer. You pointed out things I haven’t thought about that I need to do more research about. Do you think a dump trailer is a good choice for hauling scrap metal? Recently I got a note from my boss to keep some materials of the HVAC scrap that he doesn’t keep. And my 5x10 utility trailer gets full very fast. Considering saving a certain percentage of what I make from my trips and any other spare cash I can get. Like you were saying about using your dump trailer for your side jobs. I’d like to eventually be able to do that to so my son can have a career hauling and have a customer base built already(assuming he is into this kinda thing). Anyways thanks for your input gave me things to research now!
Yeah, hauling scrap metal is a good use. Overall a dump trailer is a great tool
Thanks for watching
Great educational video keep up the good work
Thanks
Excellent conversation! Subscribed, thumbs up.
Thanks
Excellant info...Thanks
Thanks for watching
A dump trailer is a very versatile trailer with the ramps can be a equipment hauler and a live stock trailer and a dump truck. I have not bought one yet but I think I want one.
Looking at a 7’x16’
Good advice, I hate when they back load the dump trailer. 7x14 is a good size, I can fit 2025r tractor and boxblade. For my next I would get a 16k 8k pound axle trailer. still non-cdl with f250 . This gives you the better tires which is key. Also better trailer brakes which is good when using a lot for a few years.
When you first hooked up it looked like the hitch lock was not closed. Or did I miss it? Love your videos
‼️‼️ What great Video ‼️‼️
🙏 Love Scotland 🙏
I agree on all counts. A dump trailer is invaluable. The old days of driving in reverse at 20 mph and slamming on the brakes to unload a trailer are over. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
Hahahaha that's too funny
I've developed my own perspective regarding the pros and cons of having a dump trailer. So I came here for a different perspective. Yours is pretty much the same as mine. So we must both be pretty smart guys! LOL. But seriously, thanks for putting this out there. Concise and well organized information. I wouldn't otherwise leave a comment but your content about weight displacement as well as weight rating consideration is excellent and a breath of fresh air. It blows my mind, not only on "the Tube" but in real life to see (homeowners and some "contractors" for lack of a better term) think that just because these two things will hook together and this thing fits in it, that it's somehow an automatically safe or smart thing to do. Those people won't even know what happened if and when that dangerous combination suddenly fails. (And I mean suddenly, as you mentioned). I also have a 1/2 ton truck and have also hauled several different combinations including dumps with it. I've also driven semi and hauled heavy equipment extensively. I can't stress enough how important load placement is and how dangerous it is when it's wrong. As far as the 1/2 ton goes, it may be rated for the weight, BUT IT ISN'T EVEN CLOSE TO OPTIMAL. Even if a guy knows what he's doing, running these things at or even near their weight capacity is........possible, but not necessarily recommended. Today's engines, sure they can get the load going, pretty well in fact. There's the danger! However, it's the chassis and breaks that you need to worry about. A 1/2 ton truck doesn't have what it takes at 80-100% of its rating to manage that load in any kind of evasive or unexpected maneuver or in inclement conditions, including rain. Occasionally, sure. But you'd better be selective (as you mentioned), on the ball at all times, and cautious, particularly with your speed. The fact that you were inching up your speed to "feel out" that load is exactly what I'm talking about. Nicely done. Me, I'd love a 3/4 or 1 ton! Absolutely. Until that lucky day of taking out another mortgage (even for a used one) to get one, I'm picky about where and what I do, and how much I really "need" to do whatever I might do. Great video, I was just amazed that you "got" the concept of the logistics of actually hauling stuff and how sketchy it "can" be. So many people on here do just crazy things and aren't even aware that they're messing with time bombs. Thanks.
Wow. You must be bored 😅
@@RitzWood32. Lol. Yes you figured me out. Work nights , and many of my "days" off are stuck in the couch awake at 3AM cruising the Tube watching things I'd be doing if it was light out.
@@firmhandshake1 gotta get some sleep bro! Lol 💤
Yeah I have no idea man. I just recently started a floor covering removal business. I have machines that remove any type of floor covering, we haul them with a cargo trailer (they’re mostly battery/hydraulic operations so we’d be effed if they got wet.) we run 2 1 ton cargo vans. Both have a 9,500lb towing capacity. Any floor covering we remove we have been loading it in the vans and hand unloading it at the dump. It’s exhausting and a huge waste of time. Biggest job we got so far is 10,300sqft of glued down carpet. Full net weight was 9,600lbs. We made 6 trips to dump the job. Planning on getting a dump trailer in the near future and upgrading 1 van to a truck for my hauling ability. I’ve never pulled a trailer or operated a dump trailer. I know it would really benefit my guys and my
Company but I’m a little nervous lol
Dump trailers are limited for some applications, and they’re not perfect for everyone, but it sounds like it’s the perfect solution for you based on what you just said
I think you laid out the positives and negatives, it will depend on the owner/user, your video wasn't here to answer our question of whether to own or not, you did good to consider the angles and let each of us decide for ourselves, good video, I didn't think you rambled on, I thought it was done well.
Thank you sir
Hi Brock, I have a 5x10 7k dump trailer and hauled 13 loads of stone dust from the quarry to my house. It took two days, but I’d rather do that than spend two days building a Quonset hut 😃
Oh come on now. Quonset hut builds are fun for the whole family
Yup. I bought my [used] 16' 14k gooseneck dump trailer PRIMARILY for hauling waste (mainly from residential construction demolition) and transporting my compact tractor. It's been a fantastic investment for those purposes.
Thanks for adding to the conversation
A longer trailer is great foot haul of services
This is what I’m getting. Hopefully things go good
Cute trailer
They are great for in the city/urban areas where you only needs a few yards of gravel or 5 yards mulch, a load of household garbage, tree trimming, smaller jobs where a dump truck would be way overkill. 1/4 acre lots or smaller.
Sounds about right
Thanks for watching
What kind of medical insurance do you have being self employed? I want too give up my w2 job but I can't find insurance.
Hypothetically speaking, would it be any different if you wanted 30t or 40t and owned a Demco side dump trailer with a 16.8m3 capacity and tonnage rating at 8.4t and had a semi that was fully capable of hauling that back and forth to the rock quarry site? I'm talking about if you owned a real piece of farming equipment typically used by farmers for hauling larger loads to and from their farm, not a small dump trailer that you tow behind your utility vehicle. Yes, I play Farming Simulator 22, that's where I got the dump trailer specs from. 😁
ok i liked how you hooked you to the trailer by raising the truck.. what feature on the truck allows you to do that?
It has four wheel air suspension. You can raise and lower the truck 8 inches with a button on the dash.
One of my favorite things about the truck. I actually traded it in on a 2500 though. For a ride on the 2500 just gives you 2 inches of raise and lower on the rear
My h&h gooseneck dump 2020 model bought brand new, i really took a long time to think about buying one. But now i am glad i did, i am currently working on building a new house and currently have 2-300+ft driveways i was quoted 13600 to have my rock delivered, i usually haul 6 1/2-7 tons of rock on my trailer no problem. And i have done my project in only 3000 bucks. I am now about to haul another 130 yards for my foundation in a 90x40 home so this trailer will do the job. It does take a few trips but nothing compared to the price they charge for delivery. Plus they charge another 8 dollars per ton when its delivered.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I recently bought a bigger truck so I can haul more per load. I use it all the time
@@RockhillfarmYT i was gonna say, i wouldn’t own a dump trailer if i didnt atleast own a diesel 3/4-1ton or a beefy 1 ton gasser, haha. I haul mine with a 2020 gmc 2500
I think i have only had one time i was not able to lift my trailer, but i think the operator that day was getting mad at me because i was coming back alot of times and he had no help. He kept telling me hey man if you need alot of rock we have trucks and belly dumps to take it for you. And all i said was, well i gotta justify the cost of that trailer. And then he asked me if it was mine and i said yes. He said makes sense- but yeah i think he loaded me tours the front on purpose. Plus no way in hell could they do it cheaper then what i did it for, i mean i only spent 5 gallons of diesel which would of came up to like 30 bucks compared to their 100 dollar per hr/ truck rate plus 8.00 surcharge per ton.
What I just got is a 2022 ram 2500 diesel
@@RockhillfarmYT awesome 👏
Great comparison! However living in the boonies as I do, 15 ton of crushed concrete delivered is $675. It's an hour there loaded and back. I go get 10 ton at a time for $75 in my buddy's dump trailer. So the trailer cost isn't mine. Doing it for myself this is what I do. When I help a neighbor with his driveway, I have him get it delivered. It's not coming out of my pocket. He gives me $300 for my 3 hours of work and I keep $75 and hand the rest back. I'm not charging him for my time really. They rape you here for stone, sand or soil delivery. Every situation will be different. But it is cost effective for me in that situation.
Makes sense. Those prices are going to vary depending on where you live.
I figure most places you cannot get 15 tons of rock for $200 delivered
Thanks for Watching and for sharing your perspective
What's the status of your heavy duty RAM you mentioned was on order a while back? Based on what I see you doing with your half ton RAM, I do think you should upgrade your truck, especially if you're hauling rock/dirt etc. in that dump trailer often.
That truck was supposed to be here over a month ago and they don’t have an updated delivery timeline.
Could be tomorrow or could be two more months
Thanks for watching
@@RockhillfarmYT That stinks, but par for the course these days. Hope you get it soon.
Both, in many circumstances and also if you're hauling out material, that dump trailer is worth it, mine paid for itself very quickly. I use mine as a garbage can with wheels on it, and that saves so much money. But I have spent a lot of money on tires lately.
I couldn’t imagine being without my dump trailer, but there were a few things I thought people should factor in before buying one
Like how many trips it really takes you to bring enough rock to build a new driveway
Absolutely, I got mine before I got my small tractor, but after I got the tractor, I could never go back, and I wish I had two of them. I also have material delivered on a frequent basis by companies who specialize in deliveries that would require a CDL, mini circumstances I will tell my customer that my competitor has a better rate because they have better equipment, but they typically hire me for the tractor work and spreading the material or getting the material into a tight spot.
Good comprehensive examination of owning a dump trailer. Clearly one is in my future. Thanks for this!
They are handy for a lot of things, but in your case it might be good for delivering firewood. I’ve done a couple of cord that way and it worked well especially if the person on the other end doesn’t require that you stack it
Thanks for watching
@@RockhillfarmYT my parents live 15 miles from me and getting firewood here is an event. If I could load logs and deliver them to my place it would be a great advantage
Great video bud even though i don't own a dump trailer, thought about it a couple times, just not feasible for me, Great points spoken...
It’s a big chunck of change to drop for sure. Thanks for watching
I paid 4k for my dump trailer and made that money back in 4 months working on the weekends , but to each there own I guess
Looking for weekend work. Any ideas how I can make that money? Was it demo? Trash? Stone?
Ppl always spew this like its easy or automatic lol. Speaking from experience, it only works out that way if you talk to ppl and ppl actually know you want to work with the trailer. Can't just expect 4 complete strangers to walk up to you 5-7 days a week and get you to run a load. It can work for you but it ain't no cookie cutter formula to it lol
Making money with this type of work is definitely a challenge. I’m sure it varies by market
Lots of great info here!!! That part about bringing a shovel with you (just in case) has made me think I will figure out a way to mount one or two on the underside of the trailer in such a way that I could get to them in an emergency without lifting the load. Maybe some super heavy duty zip ties, hose clamps, etc to secure it in place. Do you have any type of supplemental insurance or a different type of auto insurance policy on your truck that would cover using the dump trailer for side jobs?
I purchased an insurance policy to cover me doing tractor work and this should be covered by that
It only cost me a few hundred dollars a year as a part timer
@@RockhillfarmYT Who do you insure with as part-time tractor driver (which I assume would include skid steer work)?
@@jimand8 I actually don’t know. I’ve got about a dozen insurance policies through a local agency but they don’t use the same insurance provider for all of them.
I actually need to go in there and update the services offered because it only listed the Tractor work that I was already doing
I pay it yearly and I don’t remember what the company is.
I’m thinking about switching everything to Farm Bureau. They are working on some quotes for me
@@RockhillfarmYT Thanks
Great educational sharing……. Tongue weight is probably the most important thing when hauling a loaded trailer. I own 5ea trailers from a 35’ hydraulic dove tail and everything in between down to a 5’x8’trailer and ALL manufacturer supplied tires SUCK. I’ve had to replace al the tires on all my trailers way too soon because of belt failures and de-lamination of the tires under load. They are all foreign made and ALL fail prematurely. This is a serious issue when you are loaded and traveling at highway speed. I would recommend replacing your trailer tires ASAP for safety sake with a really good High ply count drive axle tire ( not trailer rated tires ). You will rest much easier by doing so. Have a great week. 8m anxious to see the net hut work day when you are crewed up!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the tires
I had a video a while back about replacing the tires on a trailer that was less than a year old. They put terrible tires on that trailer
I have been looking at 24’ gooseneck equipment trailers and I am confused by the Axel’s they put under them. All I am finding around here is 7k and 8k Axel’s on trailers that weighs 5k
That means if you put a 10k skid steer on it you are already at your weight limit without any other attachments or cargo.
Seems that they are trying to keep you under the CDL requirement but to me it defeats the purpose of getting a longer trailer
@@RockhillfarmYT yes it seems that all states have confusing trailer/vehicle weight rules. Here in Tennessee for private use they don’t even require trailer tags. Just on commercial use and the weight limit is 26,000 lbs
@@RockhillfarmYT From my looking at dump & equipment trailers, and all the vague (and varied) information that the manufacturers (MF's) will & won't give....they don't make it easy. That said, with goosenecks (GN's) the MF's are rating them to have much more weight on the GN, both from the trailer and the load. That weight percentage varies much more by the trailer design (location of the axles) than with bumper pulls, and is much more than the 10 to 15% of tongue weight for bumper pulls. So because of this, they cheap out and put the lightest weight rating axles they can on the GN's (still enough to meet the trailer rating, but you have to get the weight distribution right). So you have to look at what they say the overall trailer is rated for (GVWR), minus the weight of the trailer itself = and that is how much weight you can then carry. Assuming you truck is rated to tow GN as much or more than the GVWR of the trailer, you should be good to go, but you still have to get the distribution right to not overload the trailer's axles or your rear axle. You may need to go scale the load to get that all right if you are approaching the limits.....
The big issue I see with big trailers (if you earn money with it, it's commercial), especially if you go out of state (your state laws won't matter much cause you will have to be USDOT compliant....) if your trailer has a GVWR of 10,001 lbs or more, you have to add the truck and trailer's GVWR's and stay under 26,001 lbs or you have to have a CDL. It seems most 3/4 ton trucks can tow larger trailers before running into the CDL requirement, the 1 ton's are rated so high on their own that you are limited to smaller trailers (GVWR wise) than 3/4 ton trucks to stay under CDL requirements.
All that said, enjoyed the video, I am currently looking at getting a dump trailer rated at 9,990 lbs for my 1/2 ton that is rated at 9,600 lb towing capacity, so I am already losing 390 lbs of the trailers capacity. While it is hard to justify the crazy price tag currently (still going back and forth on this), I think the convenience of having it available when I can do what I need/want to do is the real justification for it, while there is definitely a limit to the funds available, you don't get ANY time back EVER. If you need large amounts of dirt or gravel though, it still makes sense to order dump truck loads, you likely just can't beat the TIME and cost savings.
With the long distance you have to the gravel yard, if you do a lot of local work that uses the same type of stone, it may make sense to have a load (or a few) dump trucked into you location to stock pile for your own work, you can then load it with the tractor for each job (just get all the loads to the job site before bringing your tractor....)
Anyways, that was long-winded on my part, sorry about that, have a good one!
Definitely don’t mind the long winded response. These are high ticket items and they deserve a lot of thought
@Gene Williams- Thank You!!
I am going to buy a 14 ft. dump trailer, and will be hauling my compact track loader in it occasionally. What are thoughts on having dock legs on the back of the trailer when loading a 8500 lb. skid steer to keep from raising the back end of my 3/4 ton truck off the ground. Do you think the dock legs are that necessary?
I bought my dump trailer from a A really knowledgeable guy who told me he did not think I would need them. At the time I was only hauling a tractor but I just bought a track loader.
I’ll have a video probably in the next week of loading it into that trailer for the first time
Those dock legs are absolutely necessary with a skid that heavy......if your loading on a slope the whole rig can start sliding when the skid is just climbing onto the trailer and lifting on the back of the truck.
I use Jack stands under the frame
How about a non dump utility trailer vs a dump. I have a dual axel 6x12 utility trailer (non dump) and the cost was 1/3 that of the dump trailer. Only scenarios i saw for the dump was when hauling dumpables to the “dump.” All other cases could be met by the basic utility trailer (99%), with a much lower cost.
Dump trailer is more options of load choice and u won't have to shovel it out by hand.
What size dump trailer are you pulling? I’m looking for an 8 foot tandem and I think that’s what you have.
In this video, it was a 7 by 12
You are not taking into account the fact that in the winter in the North there are weight restrictions in place and large trucks are not allowed to drive on the road, whereas a dump trailer as described can be used all winter.
If you’re using your trailer for personal use then don’t worry about GVW or CDLs. GVW is only looked at in commercial or if you’re making money. If you have call me or rent this trailer then your using the trailer to make money and DOT might stop ya.
You didn't have to break it down, we are all big kids and just want to play with our toys! Who you kidding!
The video is intended for someone who has never had a dump trailer, but they are thinking about getting one
@15:51 hearing his statement about “jackknifing if you need too” was a bit odd for me to hear. Especially, me being raised around trucking and goosenecks.
To make a sharp turn with a gooseneck, you can back up until the truck is at a 90 degree angle to the trailer
@@RockhillfarmYT oh, its in reference to turning radius. Okay. I get you. Yes, a gooseneck does give a better turning radius and allows for a more cleaner turn.
That swerve your talking about is called a death wobble,,not dramatic it's the real deal,use back brakes only sometimes will come out of it. If I make a mistake trailer will be over done with weight on truck,let it wobble once ya don't make that mistake Again 😳
It’s called the death wobble
Yeah, never trust the loader.
I get out and check every time and I have a Weigh safe hitch that shows me how much tongue weight I have
i haul 6 tons at a time and still under 26k.
It's 1 hour round trip (drive. load dump and back too quarry). A dump truck load is 15 tons and costs about 150-200 per hour for moving rock plus the cost of the rock.
there's no state i know of that has the 10k trailer law.
my truck (dodge ram 3500 DRW) is 12k, trailer is 14k, combine is 26k and empty I'm around 13,500
Thanks for sharing
My trailer is 14 K and I’ve actually been limited by the truck. Just got a new three-quarter ton diesel so I can actually fill the trailer all the way
The only thing about what you said is that if you haul 6 tons and your trailer weighs 4k Then you’ve got your trailer at 16,000 and you’re truck is 12 you were at 28,000
Really should only be rated to put 5 tons in the trailer
@@RockhillfarmYT yeah, trailer weight about 4,500, truck weight about 8,500.
trailer rated at 14,000
truck rated at 12,000
combined is 26,000
trailer is 4,500 dry, i load 12,000 of crushed, trailer weight loaded is just under 14,000, truck sits about 11,000, about 2,500 of that is hitch weight.
the scales at the quarry tell me the #'s on every load, i have been over weight one time but not by much.
I wasn’t thinking about some of the weight transferring to the truck
Are you using a gooseneck or bumper pull
How’s the ram holding up to the towing
After 100k miles with lots of hard towing I had to replace the transmission under warranty.
I actually posted a video about how the warranty company tried to deny the claim
I have a 3/4 ton Ram ordered now
@@RockhillfarmYT cool thanks. I want to do something similar up here in Michigan. Ie: sand , gravel , stone , firewood..if I can find a dump and older 3/4 ton with a plow
Best of luck to you in the new business
you might want to double check your CDL requirements. if the GVWR of your towed trailer is over 10K you need a CDL to cross state lines, some states do allow this to go up to 12K if you do not leave your state. I agree that you are under the 26k threshold of GCWR but since your trailer is over 12k you would be required to have a CDL especially if you are owning a business.
Thanks for sharing your feedback.I spent about a month wading through the CDL laws and discussing it in Facebook groups.
You can get into some pretty heated debates online about the interpretation of those laws. I also had some enforcement officers weigh in and they shared vin diagrams that they use.
What I came up with is that a lot of states including mine do not require a CDL just because the trailer crosses 10,000 pounds. If you are in another state or you are conducting interstate commerce then that is different
At the end of all my research I decided that I don’t technically need one yet, but I will in the future so personally I’m just gonna go ahead and get one.
What people choose to do obviously does not constitute law but if you go into a Facebook group that is just for people who have businesses using a dump trailer and you ask how many of them have a CDL, it is a very low percentage of people who get their CDL for hauling with a dump trailer
In Alabama. As long as the truck plus trailer isn't over 26,000 your trailer rating doesn't matter. You can have a 14k trailer but your truck is only 7k. Then in AL you'll be ok.
@cruzmissile same in Kansas.
That part varies by state. I did get a 3/4 ton now so I can actually load it all the way
Thanks for watching
@@RockhillfarmYT yeah man, I have a f350 dually and because of the truck 14k gvwr, I'm only limited to a max 12k rated trailer without having to get a DOT number and CDL.
That was part of the decision between a three-quarter ton and a 1 ton.
I got a ram 2500. The only problem with it is the payload is rated low so I can really still only pull 14 K behind me
Another thing to take into consideration on a CDL. I got my class B years ago when I found out the porno shop in Evanston had a ten percent discount for class B CDL holders. So I ran and got it, later I seen they had a 15 percent discout for class A cdls, I was sad to find out about the k restrictions, which is they won't let you get a class A tell your 21. (Interstate restrictions) So I got my class A & D.O.T. card on my 21st birthday and times are good. You could say I got a trailer load of savings !!!!! So when I drive from provo I take my 14k gooseneck dump trailer to buy a load of porno and rubber fists.... I'm pretty popular at byu.....
Can you tell us more about what happened with Buffalo Bob?
He puts the lotion on he skin.... One inch at a time.
Dump trailers are a landscapers best friend.
Yeah, I love mine I don’t know what I would do without it but it definitely has some shortcomings as far as how many trips it takes you to haul enough materials for some jobs so I kind of wanted to point that out to people who are in the market for one
ParticularlyI rock and dirt that are heavier by volume
@@RockhillfarmYT absolutely. But everything has its downsides. Even dump trucks are not always perfect for everything. You can’t load equipment in them. And most of them are not as strong as people think. So it is what it is. I love 7x12 dump trailer . But I hear what your saying. You have an hour round trip to get stone. I can go countless yards with stone in under 15 minutes so that’s a big difference.
Thanks for adding to the conversation
There are ZERO negatives on having a dump trailer if you have a business. Different types of jobs require different equipment. Nothing is wrong with paying someone to bring 90 yards of rock while your trailer sits there. This is like a concrete guy not taking a job because he needs a boom truck for the job. Just jibberish. It shows you dont have business experience in this arena. Resources save time. It may be worth 10k just to have a place for debris on some jobs as not having it will mean a complete job stop or days or weeks of lost time.
Shouldn’t be towing 14K Lbs with a 1/2 ton PU it’s too heavy. Manufacture says you can tow several thousand pounds as a selling point but you maybe exceeding the allowable cargo weight which is 25% of the total trailer weight. A 3/4 ton be better but with 25% of the trailer’s total weight it exceeds the cargo limit. a one ton be better to tow a 14K trailer. If you have a 3/4 ton PU then you need a 10K Lbs trailer.
I mentioned in the video that I never filled it to the 14 K capacity while using the half ton truck which is why it took more loads.
I have since upgraded to a bigger truck and a bigger dump trailer
Thanks for watching
I think your looking too far into the CDL thing. Especially as a small guy.
I have a f350 srw and a 14k equipment trailer pintle hitch, that right there im supposed to have an A class. Im not a commercial business so why would i?
I am not hauling commercially but I am hauling to jobs that I get paid to do which I believe qualifies
Dump trailers are good for small jobs or moving material around your farm. You aren't going to compete with a six wheeler or semi dump for larger jobs. I get a six wheeler of CA6 for $225 delivered..not worth driving around for that. I'm getting a f550 4wd 7.3 dump for my farm. It will get into tighter places than 40ft of truck n trailer.
Just starting this video I can already tell you it’s worth it to have a dump trailer. Way to expensive to hire a load out. Plus you can make money on the side.
I can’t imagine what I would do without my dump trailer. I use it constantly
Kind of the point here was letting people know that sometimes it still is more expensive the hall at yourself then to pay a bigger truck.
I can have 15 tons of rock dropped at my property for $200. That includes rock in delivery
@@RockhillfarmYT me personally I’d rather folks not buy one that’s how I make extra money lol
I prefer my dump trailer. A full large dump truck can easily break concrete driveways when traversing into a yard etc.. not to mention that they will also get stuck or just refuse to haul the material into a yard etc. 14k,14ft deck over gooseneck dump is the handiest trailer I own.
Thanks for sharing
Got a 14x8 deckover dump... bumper pull. Absolutely love the thing. (!)
Thanks for sharing. Mine is 7x12. Seems like a great size for what I do
Pro tip, take a valve stem out so when your friend , neighbors , uncle or any other ass clowns want to borrow it you can say it's out of service....
Good idea
all I'm hearing is also rent out your dump trailer
want 100 MORE friends?!? buy a dump trailer! EVERYBODY wants to "borrow" it
Sounds right
Bunch of bs she had years to fix the problem
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