The SF16 system is really nice I have them in two of my jets. And one still in the box. There customer service is really good. One of my other jet crash and there was some damage to the XT30 pins. I contacted Booma and ask if the crash unit could be repair. They said I could send it in. I sent it to them they said it could be repair and that the gyro was damage. They offer me two option, I could get a discount price on getting a completely new SF16 or repair the one I sent in. I opt for the new unit at half the retail price. They also sent me a shipping label to send the damage unit to them. Nice job on the setup.
Your video is the best I have seen on Smooth Flight 16. Thanks also where did you get the airplane stand your jet is sitting on it looks like just what I need.
The white stand was given to me by a buddy of mine. But the other larger scissor-like stand I bought from Amazon. Harbor freight has them too here in the USA
Hi frank, all building is done and everything working. My question is how to you begin the elevator set up. how do I set up the neutral? I really appreciate your other instruction videos, there great!
This was a tough one. I did not have any instructions to go off of. So I basically set the elevators as neutral as I could and then gave them a slight up elevator attitude and trimmed in flight. I'll get a video going of where I ended up in a day or so. Hang in there!
AR had made it so simple! I love it! Installing mine this weekend. Question. So basically if I set all my rates high /low. In my radio before I capture the max gyro throws that’s it?? No longer have to set min max on my servo settings because essentially if I capture in high rates that’s all the further the gyro will correct. Is that right?
I have a question about smooth flite 16 I want to see if you can answer. Smooth flite has assigned number 2 and number 6 to the ailerons. When I move the stick right and left there's a delay for number 6. It does not start to move at the same time as number 2. Also in low rate number 2 goes to 14 mm and number 6 only goes to 12 mm. Is that the way it's supposed to be or something wrong?
Hi Joe. I covered that I video #5. The Baja light controller that comes with this kit has a gear switch servo wire. I 'Y'/assign that servo with/to the gear channel on the AR smoothflite and the lights switch accordingly
@@FlyWithFrank Hi again, I watched video 5 again and it's all about fuel. I also watched video on electrical but still don't know how the lighting is suppose to be connected to radio. Right now I can operate the lights on and off and I have gear lights on their own channel using the gear down switch to actuate the gear lights. Is there a way to get the gear lights without using its own channel on the radio? You had mentioned in your electrical video that you are not using an on/off switch for lights. I really need an explanation of all the light to radio hook up. I have identified the leads from the light controller and what they control as far as lights just not how to hook into radio using minimal channels. I've never owned a jet with lights, especially this many(navigation, gear, turbo rings). Thanks in advance Frank
@@joeteresi2817 there should be a servo wire that can be used to turn the gear lights on an off. If you power the controller with a 2S lipo, all the lights come on. Now power up a servo tester or your rx and plug in the servo wire in. Using your servo tester knob you should be able to turn the lights on and off by turning that know back and forth, just like you are trying to move a servo around. Now to make this work, either get a spare channel on your rx and slave/mix that to the gear channel, so that when the gear switch is activated that gear loght channel is activated as well. Or, get a Y cable and have a servo reverse handy and Y the gear and gear lights servo lead into one 'gear' channel. Plug that into the gear spot on your rx. If they operate in an opposing fashion, use the servo reverse to reverse the gear lights channel before you Y them. That should do it.
Hey Frank, quick question... When you're selecting what RX protocol you're using is it mandatory that all the servos need to be disconnected from the AR unit when changing it for it to work? I only ask because I already have everything plugged into it and need to change the RX protocol and is says in red (DISCONNECT SERVOS) Thanks buddy!
It is best you disconnect the servos. Because the SF resets. When it does, servos may be in an undefined state e.g., at max throws e.t.c and may burn something up. This why I use a detachable harnesses between SF and servos!
Couple of questions: How do you program High,Mid and low rates? Do you program them on the radio or the AR system? About the gear: Are you using the gyro system of the AR for the front wheel ? I use Electron gear system . I want to use the electron system for my gear control and brakes. How do I bypass that to use the Electron system instead of the AR system? Thanks
Hi Jose, rates are programmed in the radio not the AR. The AR allows only one 3 pos switch to set off/low/high gyro gains. You can use either electron or AR for the nose wheel. If you want to use the AR, you plug in the steering servo to an AR servo output mapped to your radio’s rudder channel on the AR. In other words, your rudder channel input going into your AR will have two output ports assigned: one for the rudder servo and one for the steering servo. Now your rudder stick will control both rudder and steering and the gyro will correct both rudder and steering. Bypassing the AR is easy. Simply plug in the servo lead coming from the electron controller for steering to a servo port on the AR. Plug in the steering servo to your electron controller. Then on the AR, map the rudder channel to control the rudder servo as well as the servo port where you connected the steering servo lead from your electron controller. Alternatively, you can set up a different radio channel to control steering and slave that channel to the rudder stick. Then on the AR, map that radio channel to control the servo output where the steering lead from the electron controller is hooked up on the AR.
Great I will try that out! Last question about your Receivers. Where did you place them at? I am trying to figure out where to place the receiver for the best redundancy and prevent any interference with the servo and the 900mhz signal.
Just received a Smoothflight 16.Having a problem and I hope you can help. I have the updater cable connected to a windows computer and plugged into the display port of the Smoothflight 16. I open up the AR updater I downloaded and it says that there are no AR devices connected. It does the same with the screen. Do you have any ideas on what I can do to update this?
hey frank i see your only using one tdmx.... can u do that i have 2 and was gonna use on a 90 mm mb339 but its really small so is it necessary? i know the tdmx has 900 and 2,4 antennas. also would u prefer xicoy 45 over k45 let me know thanks
Yes you can use 2 tdmx. But wire the telemetry port on the SF to the s.port of only one of the tdmxs. For my foamie edfs, I use only one tdmx but for my turbines I like to use 2. Re turbines I have had good success with both KT and Xicoy. KT service being in CA is a big advantage. But I find Xicoys are lighter and pretty efficient. Honestly either will do in my opinion
Thank you so much for taking the time putting this tutorial together. Much appreciated!!
Excellent video. Very informative and helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching! I’m glad you found this useful!
This is fantastic Frank! I greatly appreciate the insight and excellent tutorial on this... You're the man! 👏😁
Thanks Alpha10. You're welcome
The SF16 system is really nice I have them in two of my jets. And one still in the box.
There customer service is really good. One of my other jet crash and there was some damage to the XT30 pins. I contacted Booma and ask if the crash unit could be repair.
They said I could send it in. I sent it to them they said it could be repair and that the gyro was damage. They offer me two option, I could get a discount price on getting a completely new SF16 or repair the one I sent in. I opt for the new unit at half the retail price.
They also sent me a shipping label to send the damage unit to them.
Nice job on the setup.
Your video is the best I have seen on Smooth Flight 16. Thanks also where did you get the airplane stand your jet is sitting on it looks like just what I need.
The white stand was given to me by a buddy of mine. But the other larger scissor-like stand I bought from Amazon. Harbor freight has them too here in the USA
very good video, thank you
Thanks
Hi frank, all building is done and everything working. My question is how to you begin the elevator set up. how do I set up the neutral? I really appreciate your other instruction videos, there great!
This was a tough one. I did not have any instructions to go off of. So I basically set the elevators as neutral as I could and then gave them a slight up elevator attitude and trimmed in flight. I'll get a video going of where I ended up in a day or so. Hang in there!
@@FlyWithFrank Thanks Frank, it's appreciated
AR had made it so simple! I love it! Installing mine this weekend. Question. So basically if I set all my rates high /low. In my radio before I capture the max gyro throws that’s it?? No longer have to set min max on my servo settings because essentially if I capture in high rates that’s all the further the gyro will correct. Is that right?
Thank you for this video !! Seriously you covered so many bases!! Did you ever find out what the high and low offset are?
@@nicholasflyboymiller68 thank you! I never did quite figure it out. I think AR removed it at one point after a S/W update.
Amazing video. Do you know how to setup hover mode??
I have a question about smooth flite 16 I want to see if you can answer. Smooth flite has assigned number 2 and number 6 to the ailerons. When I move the stick right and left there's a delay for number 6. It does not start to move at the same time as number 2. Also in low rate number 2 goes to 14 mm and number 6 only goes to 12 mm. Is that the way it's supposed to be or something wrong?
Frank please post how you have the lights wired in especially the gear light to come on with gear. I don't think I have mine correct
Hi Joe. I covered that I video #5. The Baja light controller that comes with this kit has a gear switch servo wire. I 'Y'/assign that servo with/to the gear channel on the AR smoothflite and the lights switch accordingly
@@FlyWithFrank Hi again, I watched video 5 again and it's all about fuel. I also watched video on electrical but still don't know how the lighting is suppose to be connected to radio. Right now I can operate the lights on and off and I have gear lights on their own channel using the gear down switch to actuate the gear lights. Is there a way to get the gear lights without using its own channel on the radio? You had mentioned in your electrical video that you are not using an on/off switch for lights. I really need an explanation of all the light to radio hook up. I have identified the leads from the light controller and what they control as far as lights just not how to hook into radio using minimal channels. I've never owned a jet with lights, especially this many(navigation, gear, turbo rings). Thanks in advance Frank
@@joeteresi2817 there should be a servo wire that can be used to turn the gear lights on an off. If you power the controller with a 2S lipo, all the lights come on. Now power up a servo tester or your rx and plug in the servo wire in. Using your servo tester knob you should be able to turn the lights on and off by turning that know back and forth, just like you are trying to move a servo around.
Now to make this work, either get a spare channel on your rx and slave/mix that to the gear channel, so that when the gear switch is activated that gear loght channel is activated as well. Or, get a Y cable and have a servo reverse handy and Y the gear and gear lights servo lead into one 'gear' channel. Plug that into the gear spot on your rx. If they operate in an opposing fashion, use the servo reverse to reverse the gear lights channel before you Y them. That should do it.
@@FlyWithFrank Thanks so much for taking the time to explain. Your other videos on AR set up are fantastic
Hey Frank, quick question... When you're selecting what RX protocol you're using is it mandatory that all the servos need to be disconnected from the AR unit when changing it for it to work? I only ask because I already have everything plugged into it and need to change the RX protocol and is says in red (DISCONNECT SERVOS) Thanks buddy!
It is best you disconnect the servos. Because the SF resets. When it does, servos may be in an undefined state e.g., at max throws e.t.c and may burn something up. This why I use a detachable harnesses between SF and servos!
@FlyWithFrank Interesting and great to know... Will do, thanks Frank!👍
How do you make the servo lead labels on the shrink sleeve ? Thanks
I have one of these RhinoPRO 5200 Label Makers a.co/d/3NhgJq7
@@FlyWithFrank Excellent Frank that's a great idea
Couple of questions:
How do you program High,Mid and low rates?
Do you program them on the radio or the AR system?
About the gear:
Are you using the gyro system of the AR for the front wheel ?
I use Electron gear system . I want to use the electron system for my gear control and brakes.
How do I bypass that to use the Electron system instead of the AR system?
Thanks
Hi Jose, rates are programmed in the radio not the AR. The AR allows only one 3 pos switch to set off/low/high gyro gains.
You can use either electron or AR for the nose wheel. If you want to use the AR, you plug in the steering servo to an AR servo output mapped to your radio’s rudder channel on the AR. In other words, your rudder channel input going into your AR will have two output ports assigned: one for the rudder servo and one for the steering servo. Now your rudder stick will control both rudder and steering and the gyro will correct both rudder and steering.
Bypassing the AR is easy. Simply plug in the servo lead coming from the electron controller for steering to a servo port on the AR. Plug in the steering servo to your electron controller. Then on the AR, map the rudder channel to control the rudder servo as well as the servo port where you connected the steering servo lead from your electron controller. Alternatively, you can set up a different radio channel to control steering and slave that channel to the rudder stick. Then on the AR, map that radio channel to control the servo output where the steering lead from the electron controller is hooked up on the AR.
Great I will try that out! Last question about your Receivers. Where did you place them at? I am trying to figure out where to place the receiver for the best redundancy and prevent any interference with the servo and the 900mhz signal.
Just received a Smoothflight 16.Having a problem and I hope you can help. I have the updater cable connected to a windows computer and plugged into the display port of the Smoothflight 16. I open up the AR updater I downloaded and it says that there are no AR devices connected. It does the same with the screen. Do you have any ideas on what I can do to update this?
You will need to download manually the driver. It happened to me and now is fix
hey frank i see your only using one tdmx.... can u do that i have 2 and was gonna use on a 90 mm mb339 but its really small so is it necessary? i know the tdmx has 900 and 2,4 antennas. also would u prefer xicoy 45 over k45 let me know thanks
Yes you can use 2 tdmx. But wire the telemetry port on the SF to the s.port of only one of the tdmxs. For my foamie edfs, I use only one tdmx but for my turbines I like to use 2. Re turbines I have had good success with both KT and Xicoy. KT service being in CA is a big advantage. But I find Xicoys are lighter and pretty efficient. Honestly either will do in my opinion