中国苗刀刀法-辛酉刀法/Chinese Kungfu:The art of twohanded blade "miao dao"
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- 苗刀刀法表演，出自明代《辛酉刀法》,为戚继光在抗倭战斗中获得的日本刀谱基础上，进行改变再创使之更适合军队实战之用的刀法。
The Miao Dao sword is a two-handed blade which are popular equipped for the heavy armored soldiers（especially in the praetorian guards troop of
the Chinese emperor） from the Tang Dynasty to Ming Dynasty(7th century to 17th century) in China.In Tang dynasty it export to Japan and influenced the development of Japanese sword.
In the video ,the man is performing the art of Miao Dao from "Xin You Dao Fa" （Blade arts of the year 1560) ,which is a book teach the combat arts to the military forces in the Ming Dyanasty.The writer of the book is General Qi JiGuang,when he has got a book of Japanese sword arts after a battle , modify and developed it made that fit for army.
這是我看過網路視頻上雙持刀最熟練的一人了.雖然只是練習可是動作卻很流暢穩定而且拿那樣大把刀耍完也完全看不出有任何疲累的樣子.
Auris 奧里斯 苗刀还有一个师傅很厉害，王志海，也是劈挂拳传人！玩长枪推荐你看神枪温庄师傅！
+Suni Chan 請問抖氣是…喘氣嗎？
@@BruceLee-to6mw 眼神有问题？王志海的是花架子。
R R 在你眼里，谁不是花架子？
現代有鈦合金的刀~劍，很輕
刚柔并济，形如流水，周魄圆全，力意实展，却稳如泰山！真是大开眼界!
這個師父的下盤真穩 !
这个哥们耍的是真套招，就是能实战的那种。而且一看他的步发和重心的控制就知道这身上绝对有真功夫。
基本上一把長130公分以上的長刀是很不好使的，但看他在收放之間確沒有什麼多餘的動作，運刀的技巧也很成熟，若不像他那樣做，要操弄一把這樣長的刀是很不容易的
苗刀一定要用腰力的。这跟苏格兰大剑还不一样
我就是用这把140cm这样的苗刀来练习，而且刃长100cm，刃是直的
哇~~不像其他扯B蛋的.把舞術把武術.這位仁兄展示的才是真的武術.看了就知道真的能用實戰的.贊!!!!!
嗯嗯，毕竟戚继光是个实际的军事家，他写的刀法都是朴实无华以实用性为主。 古刀法都是比较讲究高效率杀敌的，好不好看不重要。 以前练习武术都是为了当兵还是跑镖的有实际作用。到了新中国时代，武术的实战作用已经被枪炮新武器取代了， 如果武术找不到新的发展方向，很可能会直接被淘汰，再没有人会习武。 所以当代的大佬们就决定把武术变成体育表演类项目传下来，想着留不到武术的神也至少把武术的型，给传下去吧。 结果就是今天的武术主流方向就是表演，套路。 做秀。 竞技类的武术近几年才重新开始
他是我見過演示得最好的師父,請問有沒有這位師父的完整辛酉刀法視頻?
that was amazing, great skill. your awesome!! keep up the great work.
Man, this guy is a beast.
好刀法，实用！
The miao dao form practised by the person is unknown,but maybe most of them are from 辛酉刀法 and 单刀法选.
The name of the person is You Haoren. And the weight of the sword is unknown too.
练得真不错，行云流水，控制的很好。
Beautiful!
感觉很不错啊~~，重心不失~下盘很稳~~
This is a real deal miao dao high skill level
很独特。看不到苗刀的很多基本刀法，但却有很多从没在其它视频中见过的劈刺动作。
大刀长刀肯定有很多劈砍动作，这是优势，但劈砍招式是最没有用的，最险的杀招是第一是挑，上挑，然后是刺。
Many of the movements look so similar to what I've learned in Germanic longsword technques. Amazing how similar combative swordsmanship is around the world. :)
Basically all sword techniques are the same : Cut, Slash, Stab, Sweep, Block and Reversals ( turn around and repeat ). All cuts, slashes and sweeps are divided into upper and lower.
miao dao is the recent name (1900s), this sword orignally came from Japanese ronini (or pirates) thats robbing ppl in eastern China (1500s), this came specifically from odachi. A lot of the techniques came from the Japnese martial arts
@@magickb7255 Interresting ! I thought it was the other way around !😅
@@magickb7255 The miao dao goes way back, dating to the Han dynasty (206BC - 220 AD). It was first developed as a weapon against cavalry. You don't need a blade this long to chop pirates. 😊
@@pervertt Current evidence suggests that the 'miaodao' itself doesn't date back far - its modern version dates to the 1920s (and is almost my ideal for perfect sword design - if only it had a false edge tip...). It was sometimes used in WWII, although the Dadao was more prevailent among those battlefields. Its ancestors, that is other long two-handed Chinese swords which inspired its creation, however, have a storied legacy. Its immediate ancestor is the bigger version of the Dandao, also known as the Changdao, of the Ming and Qing dynasties, themselves inspired by Japanese Odachi utilized by pirates of mixed Chinese, Japanese and Korean origin (wokou), likely all a fault of the Tsushima domain. The Ming and Qing took the idea, made an even bigger version of it, and copied techniques from Japan during this time (and of course, improved upon these techniques and designs)...
Because native Chinese two-handed swordsmanship had outright died out between the late Yuan and early Ming eras. It was a terrible cultural loss, because we know that in the Song, Tang, and Han eras, China had a vibrant culture of two-handed swordsmanship. Long two-handed swords began with the long jian of the Chu state during the late Warring States period, of which we now have unearthed countless archeological examples. These were originally not anti-cavalry weapons, but rather as elite infantry, duelist and civilian prestige weapons. The Han would generally prefer one-handed swords of considerable length, but those two handed swords continued into the Han era. At that time, a 'horse beheading jian' already existed, but evidence suggests it was not an anti-cavalry weapon, but rather a marker of quality. The anti-cavalry weapons of the Han was simply even more cavalry of their own!
In later dynasties, the dao replaced the jian as the main battlefield sword. It would be the Tang and Song dynasties that took 'horse beheading dao', or zhanmadao, literally. In the case of the Song in particular, they were massive, straight-edged cleavers meant to survive the heavily armored battlefields of the late Song era. The cavalry they faced were the jurchens and Mongols. The tactics were not straightforward, but can be boiled down to spearmen stopping the initial cavalry charge, crossbowmen continuously firing in support, and a mobile corps of Zhanmadao troops would rush out where enemy cavalry got bogged down and cut them down. It was the swords of this time period which were traded to and inspried Japanese swords and techniques (where they would build the best sword they could with their remarkably terrible sources of iron, and innovate on techniques as they descended into their own Warring States era...).
Edit: Here's another well researched source on the matter: chinesemartialstudies.com/2021/02/21/old-or-new-the-miaodao-and-invention-in-chinese-martial-arts/
I'm looking for the direct source on the use of Miaodao in WW2. I recall it was a certain subsect of nationalist troops charged with protecting China's artillery, but I can't find where in particular.
我看了youtube上的单刀法选的视频，感觉这个人这里演示的不象是单刀法选上的刀法。单刀法选上的刀法有很浓厚的日本刀技法做为基础。这个人在这里舞得很热闹，但是确是很浓厚的中国武术的感觉，而且有些技法漏洞很大，比如刺击技术，很容易被敌人反制，其次，有弧线的刀的刺法和直刀的刺法是完全不同的，有弧线的刀的刺要顺着刀的弧线由自己丹田处斜线向上刺向敌人的喉咙，而且是借助自己脚步向前移动过程中，把手臂自然抬直就可以，而不是用蛮力向前突次刺，用蛮力向前猛扎反而不稳定也不准确，片中人侧身把手臂都开成一字，然后再猛力向前突刺的过程中还伴随着转身向前，几乎是没有防御的投怀送报，一旦刺的不准，而且这种可能性很大，基本上是把自己的整个身子和下段都暴露给了对手。这样的有破绽的例子在整个舞刀的过程中还有很多。所以我感觉这是个武术爱好者对“辛酉刀法”的演绎，而不是真正的“辛酉刀法”。欢迎有不同观点的朋友来讨论。
one of the assets of large blades is being able to defeat your opponent before engaging them.. aggressive, intimidating demo (plus the blade looks nice and blurry with the camera).
i find shorter swords are more "fun" in terms of what you can do with them, easier to carry, and to use indoors/urban environments. intimidation does add a lot of value, depending on your opponents.
看到一些留言说倭刀源自唐刀，这肯定是误解，在中国找祖宗也轮不到唐刀。至于片中的苗刀我首先说一下它肯定是中国刀。不过发展源流跟明代一类仿倭双手长刀有一定关系(受野太刀影响，但刀姿/截面有不同)，明长刀>清绿营长刃大刀>苗刀
好刀法！！苗刀的话真心不错，灵活度好似我练的疯魔棍。有功力！！！
這位大哥你好。我有事請教。如果這套辛酉刀法拿現代的四十寸長的日本刀來施展可能嗎？
駱寒刃 可以的，但是苗刀尺寸重量都比日本刀长重
这是舞花！
表演得行云流水，非常不错！
现在的“武术”套路也是舞花的一种。
实战要对练即可
这位真是厉害了，步伐稳健、刀劲收放自如，刀估计也到4-5斤了吧！想舞起来真不是件容易的事。
应该是最为接近实战套路的招式了，光看此刀就不是表演用的软绵绵的刀就知道武者基础非常扎实了。
這是戚家刀再演化，實際上就是軍技/殺人技。
这是我们高中历史老师，尤浩任，真是武功了得
行云流水，真漂亮
这是舞花！
表演得行云流水，非常不错！
实战中是不能舞花的，现在的“武术”套路就是舞花的一种。
I like the moves.
不同意你的看法，传统武术中不管是器械还是拳脚，都有演法、练法和打法的区别，但是这些概念一般人并不清楚也无从分辨，毕竟我们离冷兵器时代很远了。看此段视频，我注意到了此人的重心始终保持中正，进击的时候人随刀走，但是从未失去对重心的掌控。苗刀长大，注意，他舞动的可不是常见的那种薄薄一片的武术刀片子，抖个手都能乱颤的那种，而是真正的双手钢刀，我估计十斤以上。这样的刀舞起来威力可不小，而且刀身长大，足以遮蔽全身，别看他舞的不是特别快，真对阵的时候别说找破绽，忙着挡避还来不及呢，而且威力完全足以碎人刀甲。结论，这是个有功夫的。
拉倒吧，一看就不懂刀，他的刀净重估计1.5到2公斤，5公斤的刀他挥不动，也无意义，到不是刀片子。但是天下武功为快不破，真的要练实战，这速度不行，要只见刀光不见刀影。一防一攻，就带走一条命。
身法步法刀法配合得很好！
大多老外身法步法没有，全靠蛮力去控刀，很难看。
不知是否有這位師父的教學影片嗎?身法真好。
戚继光是名武术家，他编制的纪效新书《拳经三十二势》是绝世武林秘籍，明末，后人依据戚继光拳法创造出了太极拳，戚继光拳经32势竟然被太极拳全盘吸取了29势。
好刀法👍👍👍😁👍👍
1:27 这一下砍中了的话直接两断了吧
苗刀只有前面有刃砍不断
步法很稳！使刀很有力度！好功底！👍
古刀流！真是位高手！網路看就感覺好有勁！
Nice, I like the crisp footwork. Very interesting.
身體各部位力道分配掌握的相當純熟!!!不然雙手武器基本上沒掌握好一下就會累的
好腕力
哦，看描述。 战场上配重甲.....所以不用太考虑破绽,气势更足.
Well Well very cool.
Excellent
Facinating! Didn't know that the katana had its origins from China! But then why wouldn't it? prior to the Katana the Japanese used a whu shu type blade if Im correct? Regardless I W
would love to learn this type of style! LOL providing it doesn't involving kneeling. Many thanks!!
the katan had its origin as a back sword in china but this sword was borrowed back from the japanese due to constant rate of japanese pirates raiding the chinese and korean coast. they were well made swords so the chinese copied this newer design. as a anti cavalry weapon hence the length.
kaindrg tell some more
Orignal chinese versions were little more than straight iron machetes. they were good for cavalry and were easy to use. as steels ones were produced the sharpening process produced a curve that make it slice better so later sword smiths manipulated the steel to be that way later on.
Read more
Of the ancient Tang Dynasty sword (tandgedo) in japan museum. It is the Similarity Japanese sword.
???? copy the new design ,are you kidding, where are you get that infomation ?? (bad eng)
Miao Dao, So swaggy lol!
感觉有真功夫！
这个应该是某爱好者打的表演套路，主要就是将各分招连在一起。实战套路，会把攻防招式结合在一起，不像这个看着这么连贯。另外单刀法和辛酉刀法都是苗刀最基础的刀法了，现在任何一套苗刀法都有这两部的影子。辛酉刀法就是记录各个招式，至于套路全都是后人续的。
看得出来有些招式实用非常强
The awesomeness!!
苗刀なかなか興味深い
看过八十年代的苗刀刀法，以刺为主绝对的实战
This is brilliant! Is there more of this?
帥
That was AWESOME! The moves kind of remind me of the one's used for the Montante.
Traiken Tercept I was thinking the same thing. I do this with my montante
HAHA this is ancient china sword tech.
The form in "Xin You Dao Fa" is more aimed towards battlefield use, full of big slash and sweeps, so it makes sense that it looks like Montante or other great swords, the "Dan Dao Fa Xuan" suits duel better.
這個相當實用，實戰可
苗刀結構沒有比武士刀硬實多少，要輕易斷倭刀應該有點難；苗刀剋倭刀是靠技法和刀長。
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下盘真稳
这是我见过刀耍得最帅的人
Yup. That's Ataro, alright.
劈鉤斬投 迴掃轉蕩。一氣呵成 讓人心有戚戚（繼光）焉
Awesome.
背景音乐也很好听，是什么来着？
這路刀法跟西洋雙手長劍及東洋劍術有得打! 片段如果省去視覺及加上慢動作重播，讓有志者欣賞和學習就更好了! 這些中看更中用的才是真正的中華武術遺產!
这刀法配狼筅当年打所谓“东洋剑术”是几百比零的战损比好么.......
兴致来了在网上搜了一下，有个“赵占军四门双手刀实战用法”，是晋州市武术协会会长四门拳械传人赵占军演示实战用法，片中用的是相同制式的双手长刀，可以看到视频中那些招式是怎么在实战中使用的，非常精彩。
看他玩的这么稳，发力也准，不会是玩格斗的吧💪
流暢 棒
结合技术和力量于一身，牛逼
这是我见过耍的最好的
是！我也是看了就想也学学。
厉害！
我覺得這刀法不錯~~
苗槍！這事簡單！我每逢清明上山祭祖總掃刀拿著上手！
Pretty flourishes :)
Beautiful
我该说，其实这个人并不是专门来表演套路的么？这是拜年的视频我记得是。就是自己拍下来，图大家 一乐的。。。。
不过他的水平很高
Xun Li 对 有表演性质，但不可否认水平和基本功扎实
Can anyone please help me find information about traditional han jien sword forms and martial arts of the HAN dynasty. besides tai qi swordsmanship. I know there was good sword martial arts back then in the han dynasty. I just need a lead into its history. Is it lost, forgotten, alive but I don't know it, is there manuals I can study and learn to traditionally wield the battle sword han jien and it's techniques. please help. I go on Google and all I find is legends and swords on sale or tai qi. RUclips of course has nothing more. If anyone knows it would be awesome if you could enlighten me on this subject that to me is so important.
thank you
also that was an awesome video
ruclips.net/video/VO1MNyYAMBc/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/jHZGajJ1jpI/видео.html
The first one offers some manual script based techniques and the second one demonstrates the proper way to draw the sword (in some parts of it). I hope this helps.
ruclips.net/video/fjWA4VofNpA/видео.html
lol I forgot there was one more
ruclips.net/video/fjWA4VofNpA/видео.html
lol, I forgot there was one more
they are not lost nor you can find on youtube because youtube is forbidden in China
好刀法！
星战的光剑对决很像这种刀法
superb
This is how you really use a miao dao, close to the body, with your body make circular movement
好
讚！
This weapon looks a lot like a Nodachi ! Are both the same ? And if not how do they differ from each other ?!
The Miaodao is largely straight, and is a relatively modern sword (1920s; was used by soldiers of the Republican army against the Japanese in WWII, although the Dadao was used more prominently). The Nodachi is curved, and dates back to the Sengoku Jidai of Japan, if not earlier. The Miaodao's direct ancestor, in both techniques and design, is the Dandao/Changdao of the Ming and Qing eras, an upscaled nodachi made of superior steels which was itself inspired by the Nodachi used by the Wokou of those times. The Nodachi itself was inspired off other Japanese swords of its time period, which ultimately trace their inspiration back to the Tang dynasty of China, which were once again straight and single-edged.
以前看過一段影片 是一個老先生的苗刀 比這把更長 耍起來一樣這樣流暢
那段找不到了
不一定更長，拿的人矮一點刀看起來就長一點了
我看的 我知道更長 起碼多了一尺
丑功夫俊把势，这哥们儿厉害，贴近实战
太強大了! 真希望能當面向你學習. 現在也只好看看視頻跟練了. 看完後我一直在想我的三才劍法, 龍形劍法跟你對戰有無勝算? 不過功力跟你差遠了是一定了
嘛，个人感觉你们对战的话，需要看你们是用什么规则了，如果是实战的那种，基本上你应该会输，不是说你功力不够的问题，而是武器本身的克制问题，不管是三才剑法还是龙形剑法，你用的应该是单手剑吧？单手武器对上双持武器本身就吃亏了，而且这个人用的刀子应该是一米五以上的，个人感觉，除非你是属于那种步法身法特别灵巧的那种，否则近身估计都成问题。
不过我也想和他对战试试，个人练的是自己改的刀法，刀子用的是八九十厘米的双手直刀，主体是福建白鹤双手刀，剑道以及单刀法选里面的一些路子。
+li leo 閣下莫非是是捷元堂體系的同門？一直感覺您這一支系的鶴法頗有刀法運勁特點在內，不知是我錯覺還是貴系祖師結合了雙手刀化刀為拳？若方便講的話還請透露一二：-），，--食鶴子弟
用苗刀练游龙剑还真是第一次见到
1:27 cutting a branch.
0:40 惊了！ 这招有点帅
是很帥，但之後剪接個倒放有點攪笑。。
@@MrNohohonko 我以為他倒退欸
好身手 高手
帅。
想請教0:09-0:11，那兩下回旋斬，是否叫"丁字回殺"??
1:25 other hand on the back of the sword...is that considered half-swording, even though the motion is a cutting rather than a trusting one?
苗刀接近剑柄的一部分是不开刃的，可以直接用手抓握当长矛使用，也可以用这一部分磕碰敌人兵器
應該是健身用的吧！？
戚繼光的戰陣裡怎麼會用這樣的刀法呢？
因該是挑，刺，撩，壓，揚，攪的動作為主，片中大開大合的旋轉是會傷到隊友的。
請看紀效新書裏的辛酉刀法。一勢勢分開的，這位道友把刀勢連起來舞動，讓妳產生這錯覺。戰陣上是同樣好使。
this is too good, to be truth
tai tai hao jing zai gong shie ah yu dui tong hui shie hai ih zhi extrem gute darbietung hochachtungvollen dank an ihrer richtigkeit tradition zu wahren vielen dank für diese unvergesslichkeit
***** hao dao fa miao dao de hua zhen schin bu heng ling huo du hao si wo liang de föng mo ghun hai you kung li wenn man in ruhe nachdenkt kann man madarin zeichen fühlen ohne unworte zu benutzen gute breitschwert führung im verfahren vom platzbefreiungs schwert das wie man sagt wirklich beherzt und darin nicht nachläßt andere sagen es würde mehr stärken als ein hürdenlauf ich selber übe die pfönixform mit dem waldgeist gehstock aber sie sind wirklich sicher fest in begriff ihrer arbeit
***** zai
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