Younger people (2000's babies) need to understand: Millennials (1980's babies) grew up watching videos like this and we were told this would be the world we were going to grow up into. What really happened was: all the jobs like this got shipped away due to various trade deals and making $$ by not respecting workers rights in China and Mexico.
80s baby here. Family is from south chicago, and saw the impact that these jobs disappearing had. A lot of my family worked at LTV/Wisconsin Steel/South Works. There’s still these jobs around, just much less than there used to be. I’ve worked in an aluminum mill/recycler for the last 16 years. Run a two stand cold rolling mill rolling aluminum coils for license plates, building products, commercial cookware, etc.
@@bholberg561 that’s the same lie they sold these men to join unions. It destroyed their industry - democrats and their Marxist regulations/policies demolished our manufacturing.
Brings back memories for those who worked In those environments, , thanks for the upload. I worked at Inland Steel and steel making was a way of life. Good money,great retirement , but very hard on the body.
@@kevinbraden9445 started out at 1&2 cold strip mostly the #1 side (tin mill) then to the yard dept. help open up cline ave shipping then HH yard then the ping ball game began went to 3 cold strip #2 BOF, 100” plate mill 10 and 14 inch bar mill.
A job for life at one time! Emigrated to the USA, Cleveland area, from the UK decades ago when the steel mills were alive and well along Euclid Avenue. So sad.
Husband worked there for 32 years, he retired the year before they shut down. Started as a precipator operator, then to the blooming mill, and then to hot strip.
I might be mistaken, but I do believe the furnace is days away from being torn down as the rolling mill and BOF have already begun to come down. Word is the coke ovens will continue to operate.
I always wondered why Republic Steel decided to modernize their blast furnace instead of just installing an electric arc furnace. EAFs would have made so much more sense given that plant low tonnage, specialty mix and land locked location.
@B.O. Warren had two electric arc furnaces; they were moth balled a few months after the Basic Oxygen Furnace (BOF) began operations. Management and supervision were asked to fill in empty slots in the BOF. All the raw materials (limestone, dolomite, spar, etc.), except for scrap and iron ore, which came in in railroad cars, had to be trucked in, some of it, on an emergency basis, in the middle of the night. The electricity was carried in on it own, separate very high voltage lines, which someone had to maintain. Relative to the water transportation available in Cleveland, Chicago, Fairless Hills, Sparrows Point and elsewhere, transportation costs crippled Warren.
The electric arc furnace combined with direct reduction iron is making the large integrated mills with the big blast furnaces obsolete. Mini mills are also reducing the need for the big integrated mills. Mills that once employed 15000 people are being replaced by mini mills or the direct reduction plants employing maybe 500-800 people. This is the trend with manufacturing, it's beginning to scale down labor but at the same time increasing productivity. It's time to have a contingency plan for universal basic income and single payer healthcare in case we find ourselves in a position where we have more labor than jobs. I work in the tech field and while there is still a belief that new industries and jobs with AI and automation will fill the void, we honestly don't know if that will happen. Better to start having some contingency plans now.
YOU MISPELLED BEAN COUNTERS, TRYING TO MAKE A POINT SUCH AS YOURS, WITH ALL YOUR INFINITE WISDOM ABOUT THE STEEL INDUSTRY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THE BLAME ON "BEAN COUNTERS, NOT BEEN COUNTERS. WEARING AND LOOKING GOOD IN A SUIT DID NOT AND DOES NOT MAKE YOU SMARTER.
This is fascinating, but the emphasis on how much focus they perform above epa standards, foretells regulation concerns already by 1979 The die is cast that will ruin LTV and lead to the ruin of the American Steel Industry.
I worked at the openhearth division of US Steel Gary Works for 2 summers and finished 3 summers later at #1 BOF. Accomplished many a dirty, hot and semi- dangerous jobs. Great way to acquire college cash and a respect for hard work.
One of the few vintage steelmaking videos available that is in color: Thanks for uploading!
Younger people (2000's babies) need to understand: Millennials (1980's babies) grew up watching videos like this and we were told this would be the world we were going to grow up into. What really happened was: all the jobs like this got shipped away due to various trade deals and making $$ by not respecting workers rights in China and Mexico.
Thank the the democrats.
No the Democrats had nothing to do with this! Get real, it's CORPORATE GREED!
80s baby here. Family is from south chicago, and saw the impact that these jobs disappearing had. A lot of my family worked at LTV/Wisconsin Steel/South Works. There’s still these jobs around, just much less than there used to be. I’ve worked in an aluminum mill/recycler for the last 16 years. Run a two stand cold rolling mill rolling aluminum coils for license plates, building products, commercial cookware, etc.
Don't overlook all the domestic "mini-mills" with their EAFs to some extant being responsible for the loss of U.S. integrated steel mills.
@@bholberg561 that’s the same lie they sold these men to join unions. It destroyed their industry - democrats and their Marxist regulations/policies demolished our manufacturing.
I almost got a job there on two different occasions. I never could pass the test though. Ended up working for Copperweld though.
Brings back memories for those who worked In those environments, , thanks for the upload. I worked at Inland Steel and steel making was a way of life. Good money,great retirement , but very hard on the body.
What department did you work at inland Rick
@@kevinbraden9445 started out at 1&2 cold strip mostly the #1 side (tin mill) then to the yard dept. help open up cline ave shipping then HH yard then the ping ball game began went to 3 cold strip #2 BOF, 100” plate mill 10 and 14 inch bar mill.
A job for life at one time! Emigrated to the USA, Cleveland area, from the UK decades ago when the steel mills were alive and well along Euclid Avenue. So sad.
I work out there now, awesome to be a part of American history
Husband worked there for 32 years, he retired the year before they shut down. Started as a precipator operator, then to the blooming mill, and then to hot strip.
Sure helps give an understanding and appreciation for what is going on inside of those buildings!
the bos furnace total respect for people that work in that area stay safe
Classic steel production
I might be mistaken, but I do believe the furnace is days away from being torn down as the rolling mill and BOF have already begun to come down. Word is the coke ovens will continue to operate.
I always wondered why Republic Steel decided to modernize their blast furnace instead of just installing an electric arc furnace. EAFs would have made so much more sense given that plant low tonnage, specialty mix and land locked location.
@B.O. Warren had two electric arc furnaces; they were moth balled a few months after the Basic Oxygen Furnace (BOF) began operations. Management and supervision were asked to fill in empty slots in the BOF. All the raw materials (limestone, dolomite, spar, etc.), except for scrap and iron ore, which came in in railroad cars, had to be trucked in, some of it, on an emergency basis, in the middle of the night. The electricity was carried in on it own, separate very high voltage lines, which someone had to maintain. Relative to the water transportation available in Cleveland, Chicago, Fairless Hills, Sparrows Point and elsewhere, transportation costs crippled Warren.
@@vze29tvd New iron is not needed - if so it should be produced on a commodity basic. EAF are best using cold scrap steel bought on the open market.
I worked in the coke plant for 39 years. Worked with many fine people over the years
The electric arc furnace combined with direct reduction iron is making the large integrated mills with the big blast furnaces obsolete. Mini mills are also reducing the need for the big integrated mills. Mills that once employed 15000 people are being replaced by mini mills or the direct reduction plants employing maybe 500-800 people. This is the trend with manufacturing, it's beginning to scale down labor but at the same time increasing productivity. It's time to have a contingency plan for universal basic income and single payer healthcare in case we find ourselves in a position where we have more labor than jobs. I work in the tech field and while there is still a belief that new industries and jobs with AI and automation will fill the void, we honestly don't know if that will happen. Better to start having some contingency plans now.
West side pride!
Damn shame what happened to my town
Lindo ❤❤❤
turned into WCI years ago?
What sort of power supply would I need for a 5MT induction furnace? (Transformer etc)
This ain't about making steel, it is about how been counters (think they) track the making of steel.
YOU MISPELLED BEAN COUNTERS, TRYING TO MAKE A POINT SUCH AS YOURS, WITH ALL YOUR INFINITE WISDOM ABOUT THE STEEL INDUSTRY, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THE BLAME ON "BEAN COUNTERS, NOT BEEN COUNTERS. WEARING AND LOOKING GOOD IN A SUIT DID NOT AND DOES NOT MAKE YOU SMARTER.
Nothing left now but the coke plant
Copperweld , Champion Ohio .
nothing left there either a big shell getting torn down
if the quality was so bad buyers would be forced to pay the higher prices. its a market.
Good old Liars Thieves and Vultures.
Now Warren has the best meth furnaces.
This is fascinating, but the emphasis on how much focus they perform above epa standards, foretells regulation concerns already by 1979 The die is cast that will ruin LTV and lead to the ruin of the American Steel Industry.
I worked at the openhearth division of US Steel Gary Works for 2 summers and finished 3 summers later at #1 BOF. Accomplished many a dirty, hot and semi- dangerous jobs. Great way to acquire college cash and a respect for hard work.