Im disappointed that you keep mentioning that this is a $64 server yet you are testing the quad core version which is not the same server its the more expensive version, Its still good value but its not $64. either test the dual core or tell the correct value please.
Erm, HEVC (High Efficiency Video Codec) is h265, not h264. H264 is also known as AVC (Advanced Video Codec) and needs about double the bit rate as h265 for the same apparent quality. Adding to this, HDR is 10 not 8 bit.
I'm curious what the minimum bitrate (quality setting?) is-obviously relative to encoding difficulty-to get to the point that h264 is akin to MP3 vs AAC. I wasn't aware it was that much more efficient. Drawbacks like vp9? Really disappointing this guy seemed to miss so much relevant information while misrepresenting the product/price.
@@SolarScion there’s a degree of subjectivity there, a dependency on the encoder, and another part missing from the review. Video encoding is generally done with either constant bit rate or constant quality. Constant quality is what tends to be used for streamed video, where the bit rate is lowered for sections where the picture doesn’t change much. The result is a lower average bit rate. What I can say is that H265 encoding 1080P will compress your average movie to less than 2GB without obvious artefacts if you use a good software encoder.
@@JasonRasmussen Not once in the whole 26 minutes he cared to scroll down to see if its SW or HW transcoding. Is he getting paid to do that? Its no problem if its ignorance or naivety from a newbie, he's a freaking plex user for YEARS, he should know better. Not to mention he's blatantly scamming people by putting a title of $64 version when the whole test of this video is using the higher tier. Unless he clears it up here, his validity to nas boxes will go down the drain.
Hi there I am trying to set up a system for streaming media, home assistant, some containers and light virtualization. I am thinking about running TrueNAS Scale on Zima Board or Blade with Jellyfin container. I am a bit worried about transcoding 4K tho. Is it possible to run this system I described and still being able to access and display 4K content from other devices? What about Dolby Atmos? Thank you very much :)
Browsing around Aliexpress I find you can get a M-ATX motherboard with 9 SATA ports (6 SATA3, 3 SATA2), 2 M.2 PCIe 3, 4 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2, 1 PCIe x16 slot and 1 PCIe x1 slots. This plus 32GB of ECC DDR4 and a Xeon E5 2680 V4 (14 cores, turbo of 3.3GHz) for about $120. Which would make a better Plex/NAS server?
How does it handle full blu ray rips and you didn’t put though handbrake like you put a blu ray disc in make mkv and once it’s done put it on Plex how does it handle that cuz that’s what I do with my gaming pc an I’ve been thinking of putting my Plex server somewhere els so it’ll use less electricity
Couple of things the video conversions are actually referred to as transcodes and Noone absolutely Noone is interested in 8k video. It's not a relevant use case for much of everything since you would have to sit so close to the screen to see the detail it would hurt your eyes
This is super cool for the price but it's certainly not replacing my AMD Epyc Plex server anytime soon. Sure mine was 2.5x the price ($250) from a China eBay seller for the 1st gen 16c/32t Epyc and Motherboard. But it's missing critical things like the 128 lanes of PCIe for my HBA, 10g network card, x4 Nvme card, etc. These kinda single board computers are so cool until you want to get into big boy things like ZFS pools and setting up metadata cache so your 16 hard drives have a nice Nvme pool to speed things up, or chucking in some second hand ram and doing things like ZFS cache or transcoding cache. These days a used Nvidia Tesla is $95 and will do something like 28 simultaneous hd transcodes. (And Intel quick sync is amazing if you're team blue) Any i3 or higher 8th gen or newer Intel chip is probably fine for most people and with a moderate motherboard will have plenty of PCIe expansion for tons of hard drives and a couple of Nvme's
I'm wondering how does it handle HDR10+ and Dolby Vision content?
Those require more horsepower, more bandwidth and different transcoding protocols.
Im disappointed that you keep mentioning that this is a $64 server yet you are testing the quad core version which is not the same server its the more expensive version, Its still good value but its not $64. either test the dual core or tell the correct value please.
Exactly
Was also curious if it was actually using HW transcoding or just raw CPU, otherwise great video
Erm, HEVC (High Efficiency Video Codec) is h265, not h264. H264 is also known as AVC (Advanced Video Codec) and needs about double the bit rate as h265 for the same apparent quality. Adding to this, HDR is 10 not 8 bit.
I'm curious what the minimum bitrate (quality setting?) is-obviously relative to encoding difficulty-to get to the point that h264 is akin to MP3 vs AAC. I wasn't aware it was that much more efficient. Drawbacks like vp9? Really disappointing this guy seemed to miss so much relevant information while misrepresenting the product/price.
@@SolarScion there’s a degree of subjectivity there, a dependency on the encoder, and another part missing from the review. Video encoding is generally done with either constant bit rate or constant quality. Constant quality is what tends to be used for streamed video, where the bit rate is lowered for sections where the picture doesn’t change much. The result is a lower average bit rate.
What I can say is that H265 encoding 1080P will compress your average movie to less than 2GB without obvious artefacts if you use a good software encoder.
I'm disappointed you didn't even verify if its HW transcoding or not, facepalm.
That's what I was here for. Thanks for saving me 26 minutes.
@@JasonRasmussen
Not once in the whole 26 minutes he cared to scroll down to see if its SW or HW transcoding. Is he getting paid to do that?
Its no problem if its ignorance or naivety from a newbie, he's a freaking plex user for YEARS, he should know better.
Not to mention he's blatantly scamming people by putting a title of $64 version when the whole test of this video is using the higher tier.
Unless he clears it up here, his validity to nas boxes will go down the drain.
Performance of integrated graphics was referred to throughout the video, so this implies HW encoding was used!
@@SqueezyMatt
Is it that hard to show us in the video? Hard evidence vs speculation.
I get it but it’s an x86 Intel Celeron, it’s HW for a given
Hi there I am trying to set up a system for streaming media, home assistant, some containers and light virtualization. I am thinking about running TrueNAS Scale on Zima Board or Blade with Jellyfin container. I am a bit worried about transcoding 4K tho. Is it possible to run this system I described and still being able to access and display 4K content from other devices? What about Dolby Atmos? Thank you very much :)
Browsing around Aliexpress I find you can get a M-ATX motherboard with 9 SATA ports (6 SATA3, 3 SATA2), 2 M.2 PCIe 3, 4 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2, 1 PCIe x16 slot and 1 PCIe x1 slots. This plus 32GB of ECC DDR4 and a Xeon E5 2680 V4 (14 cores, turbo of 3.3GHz) for about $120.
Which would make a better Plex/NAS server?
thats right, but the xeon bundle also burns a lor more energy :)
I really want one of these. They look so cool.
What about when adding an eGPU?
How does it handle full blu ray rips and you didn’t put though handbrake like you put a blu ray disc in make mkv and once it’s done put it on Plex how does it handle that cuz that’s what I do with my gaming pc an I’ve been thinking of putting my Plex server somewhere els so it’ll use less electricity
Couple of things the video conversions are actually referred to as transcodes and Noone absolutely Noone is interested in 8k video. It's not a relevant use case for much of everything since you would have to sit so close to the screen to see the detail it would hurt your eyes
This is super cool for the price but it's certainly not replacing my AMD Epyc Plex server anytime soon.
Sure mine was 2.5x the price ($250) from a China eBay seller for the 1st gen 16c/32t Epyc and Motherboard. But it's missing critical things like the 128 lanes of PCIe for my HBA, 10g network card, x4 Nvme card, etc. These kinda single board computers are so cool until you want to get into big boy things like ZFS pools and setting up metadata cache so your 16 hard drives have a nice Nvme pool to speed things up, or chucking in some second hand ram and doing things like ZFS cache or transcoding cache. These days a used Nvidia Tesla is $95 and will do something like 28 simultaneous hd transcodes. (And Intel quick sync is amazing if you're team blue)
Any i3 or higher 8th gen or newer Intel chip is probably fine for most people and with a moderate motherboard will have plenty of PCIe expansion for tons of hard drives and a couple of Nvme's
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