Rockets never been great at building superstars or building around them. You see potential in Houston you beg them to leave before career end up wasted
They lost the game to the Suns before that 4-1 run started and lost to the Clippers. Not bad teams to lose to at all. Unfortunately, the FO is gonna look at the season as a whole and while they can improve and likely will. It's still a gamble to keep them both if you have a guaranteed superstar. I'm not saying that's the right move, it's just the move that gives the FO more security.
Because of the rumor mill and those that profit from it. Also other GMs/execs and fans from others teams want them so they are likely fueling the fire. Don't trust them 🐍 Just enjoy them playing until some dumb exec (stone) screws it up.
And that would be the reason the FO would make the move. Not saying it's the right move, but if there's a proven star, you take the proven star over the unproven one (which is a gamble)
They could do well in getting a reliable star veteran tho. I’d resign JG now before he becomes more expensive and throw a boat load of money towards Steph for 3 years and see if I can make something of Brooklyns Pick.
@@bjrnthebootybandit he made it work with Jordan poole, Jalen right now looks to be in a better trajectory than JP. The only thing worrisome is that JG has only looked like this for a month. But Steph with those to plus Cam/Amen and Dillon could some damage next year.
Green must be traded, he is not stable during season. He plays only at the end of the seasons and is missing at the beginning and the mid of the seasons. Sengun is the star and the future of the Houston, like Hakeem in the past. Houston must give highest contract to Sengun immediately
Neither Sengun or Green are getting a Max Rookie extension this off-season. Deciding who to keep off the 2 will decide on what type of star they acquire. If they get a Guard star then Green will be traded if they get a Forward/Center then Sengun will be traded. If I was the Rockets GM I would keep Sengun but as a non-Rocket fan that's hoping my team trades with them, I would prefer to get Sengun.
I've seen this script way to many times. See this is why many teams stay on the bottom. We've seen this with Shaquille O'Neal in Orlando, we saw this with Antoine Walker with the Boston Celtics, Ray Allen with the Milwaukee Bucks, Kiki Vandeweghe with the Denver Nuggets Jason Kidd with the Dallas Mavericks, Donovan Mitchell with the Utah jazz, Kevin Durant with OKC, Kawhi Leonard with San Antonio etc. I wouldn't move either one of those two. But what I would do is sit them both down and counsel them, reminding them of the ultimate goal. Because once your traded that first time, your value drops each and every time you switch teams
@@SwishCulture Yes, the value of a player only carries with the team that drafted them, regardless of the production. Which is why Shaq, Walker, Allen, and many other great players were traded around the league. You see, when a team acquires a free agent, it's to satisfy a need, and if that need isn't met, they are again traded over and over again. This is why I persistently kept saying the Warriors should have moved on from Andrew Wiggins last season, the need was met when they won the championship, but after running back the exact same team(big mistake), teams catch up to you and learn how to beat you. So when Wiggins had that down season the Warriors should have moved on(it's a business).
Orlando wasn't threatening to trade shaq. The moral of the story was Lakers offered him a big contract and he left. It was that simple. If anything it was shaq who started the beef with penny, the same way he did with kobe. Penny was a pass first point guard, he didn't mind passing to shaq. When shaq was hurt in penny second year penny was leading the team and getting media coverage and shaq hated it the same way he hated anytime he wasn't the center of attention throughout his career. The same way he hated when Andrew bynum was the new center in L.A, When dwight was the new center in orlando. The same way he hated on hakeem, lied on David Robinson, kept picking on Javale mcgee, hated on Rudy golbert massive contract with utah. Shaq is a hater and was throughout his career.
@@coreyjohnson5346 That sounds a little personal and I respectfully disagree in terms of the purpose behind his movement. Orlando low balled Shaq finamcially as they didn't meet his demands on the contract. Shaq stated that he gave Orlando every opportunity to match the offered but they deferred. He said had they matched the offered he would have stayed in Orlando. As for Anfernee Hardaway, he had no animosity towards him. In fact, Penny stated that he was "hurt" behind his departure and felt betrayed. That doesn't sound like a person that had as you felt, "beef" with him teammate. They were close and had remained friends after they changed teams. Singling out Shaq as if his ego was to big for the team is wrong, because (all) players have egos, it goes with playing professional sports. LeBron James has the softest of any ego I've ever seen from a professional athlete, he's as fragile as it gets.
Check; 1- Last two years of Rockets. Even the tanking rockets started to win by the end of regular seasons. Even when the teams weren't this easy going. 2- JG of 2 years ago end of season statistics. Exactly the same as now. JG shines great when the things aren't serious. I always supported JG's superstar candidate position. But he need to proove himself, if he will be there when there is the need. Not by the end of season, when teams are resting, tanking or preventing injury before play-offs. If he shows that stability, he will be great.
This is such a casual take. This stretch is NOT similar to the last two years at all. The defense, playmaking, plus minus, IQ, and rebounding is clear as day. While also carrying this team to wins and pushing to a playoff spot.
@@anthonyoakley3637 I think the point is that JG needs to be consistent over the course of an entire year. Of course he's improving, but the general sense that he comes and goes hasn't been disproven just yet.
Lol. Why would they trade one of those players when they both basically made a leap this year? Them offering Jalen for Bridges happen before Jalen figured it out. National media starting narratives they cant coexist is kinda silly tbh. A big thats great down low, attracts double teams & a WILLING passer paired with a dynamic scoring guard. Looks like a recipe for a great offense. Literally the same archetype of a Sabonis & Fox tandem. Somewhat Jokic & Murray? History has it, a great big always need a dynamic guard and vice versa. Why break it up this early? The dumb part, doing it IMMEDIATELY this offseason. Why not wait to see how they look like next season? Whats the rush? You already seen growth form both & added 16more wins & counting this season from the previous year - 22wins to 38wins with still 9games left..
@@SwishCulture lmfao. Really believe they go that course after two of their homegrown talent made a leap this year? Is that really the smart move? Rush everything? Remember Lakers only did that coz LeBron came to them in FREE AGENCY, the timeline changed. Needed to pair him with another proven star. That's different from breaking up two emerging young star. Literally not the same circumstances..
@@Chris-uq7in I said this before, but I'll say it again here. JG was my favorite player from this draft. I liked Sengun, but didn't know too much about him and he was undersized at the time. To see them develop is really amazing. Now the problem is that all NBA franchises are businesses. Businesses make business decisions. You know what you'll get with a proven superstar with a track record. They're going to give you a certain level of consistency, not just flashes. You already know what you're getting and it's a very high level of basketball. With young talents like JG and Sengun, they look great right now, but what do you get in the postseason? What will you get a year from now? Two years from now? With JG, you didn't even know what you were going to get a month down the road. Two months ago the kid was on the trading block. The only reason he isn't at this very moment is because the deadline has already passed. The team knows they need a consistent high level talent to compete and they just don't know if that's what they have yet with these guys. You've heard of Linsanity, right? If you understand that then you get what I'm saying. I love the players, but I can understand what Shams, Tim L and Tim M are saying, as well as the two times the front office tried to get a superstar in the past 9 months.
Yeah it never real works out when we look at teams try and trade it all for stars and end up with nothing. Rather have home grown talent and trade picks for great role players
Everyone around the league is pushing this narrative because the Rockets are loaded with young talent from Sengun, Smith, Eason, Whitmore, Thompson and Green. We already have seem Segun and Green playing together and winning after Allstar break before Sengun injury and Green's numbers were better with Sengun. Now you add the maturation of Thompson it gives Houston a potential lineup of Sengun, Smith, Thompson, Green, and VanVleet. Thompson can play all 1-4 and the Rockets can interchange a lot of players in the 2-4 positions.
True Rockets fans know that we have something good brewing. Jalen, Alpi, Amen, Bari IS the future. Plus Cam and Tari. The media is just making these stuff up to mess up what is about to be a good Houston team. We are on the rise.
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked after hearing all the dumb rumors about trading Green for Mikal Bridges. The reality is that Ime Udoka has completely turned around this franchise. Stone made some good picks but until this season, he didn't have a coach that could mold them into championship level players. Look you can never say never no to every trade, because it might be too good to pass up, but I really doubt that you could get fair value trading Green or Sengun because they are just too good. If Stone somehow trades one of those 2 for non top 5 players, after they have been working together for the last 3 years and finally starting to click under Ime, then I think he simply doesn't know what he is doing as a whole as GM.
it's obvious jg is better without sengun. but i wonder if that's about sengun specifically... something tells me jg is gonna be even more incompatible with embiid. jg just wants center empty so he can drive in and do his acrobatics.
That's why a stretch 5 would be his best bet. Embiid seems decent with Maxey, but I don't think the rest of that supporting cast is up to the task. Other than that, maybe a Valanciunas would get it done and he's a free agent this summer.
Rockets have to keep all the team together + add more power from the #1 picks if they want to build the super team of the near future. If they'd like keep the team and wages small, THEY as a team will become small. They will say bye to success. If they will be able keep the team together, they may have a great team in the very close future.
They’re not training either one. You need Shengun against the likes of Jokic and Wemby. You drafted JG to be this, now that he’s finally getting it, u trade him? They have a top 3 HC, Udoka can make it work. This team with players coming back from injury plus a couple of FA signings could be a contender next year, with the suns and gsw looking like they’re done contending for awhile. Spurs too will be in play next year I think.
There is LITERALLY NO report that the team is thinking this. Green was on the block but he was just playing bad. His shots per game is the same he was JUST NOT MAKING THEM!
@@SwishCultureyou are not understanding what he posted at all he said the team did not report this, and he gave his own thoughts on how green was playing before all this.
@@vincenthammons-kd9du Did the team report that they changed their mind on trading Green? The last report stated that they tried and were turned down. Regardless of how Jalen Green is playing currently, no report has come out that he is off limits. It is clear that Sengun and Green don't mesh as well together as their talents would dictate and the Rockets have been trying to get a star since the beginning of last season. One month of Jalen Green playing great isn't the holy grail for the Rockets if Stone is worth any salt. If you can't watch objectively, find another hobby instead of mindless commenting. It looks bad on you and even worse on the people that defend you. Have a good day, guys.
@@SwishCultureactually yes their has been reports that the rockets changed their minds. And the reports coming out that they are still willing to trade them are coming from other organizations. Apparently to try and push this false narrative so they can drive a wedge and try to "pry one of them away from Houston." Houston themselves feel very confident that green and sengun can play well together. And basically anyone who actually pays attention to the rockets actual play knows that too.
@@SwishCulturethey do mesh well. Jalen was getting the same shots. Just wasn’t making them. Now he’s making them so ppl just creating storylines now 😂😂.
@jus3278. This narrative that the Rockets are playing faster because Sengun is off the floor which opens up Jalen's game surely makes sense for people just looking at the stats and not watching the game. This childish narrative has been floating around the media for weeks now. The with the old staring 5, there was only one guy on the floor who could run like a deer, which is Jalen. You can't be a fast pace breaking team with just 1 guy who can run. Enter Amen Thompson. Two guys who can run like the wind can make you a running team. As I said earlier, anyone who has been watching the games seems to understand it is Amen being on the floor which has changed everything. Not the fact Sengun is out. I'd imagine long term the Rockets probably sacrifice Dillon Brooks to get Amen on the floor. So I agree with you that the rockets won't be trading either. They'll let Sengun and Jalen get a full run next year perhaps with Amen in the starting lineup to see how that looks.
@@jus3278 Media in generally discussing what's being reported aren't the ones pushing the narratives it's the ones who started the rumors first and that Shams who is National Insider. Rockets media covered the story too are they pushing the narratives? or are they discussing what Shams reported?
HEY THEY ARE BOTH YOUNG AND SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO LEARN HOW TO GET THE BEST OUT OF BOTH. DON'T GO OUT AND GET AN OLD MAN TO REPLACE TWO YOUNG ONES, MAKE IT WORK AS IS
What in the freak is the dude talking about. Sengun green are FRANCHISE PLAYERS. No way they trade them they are too committed. Such a stupid dialogue.
As a rockets fan I hope they don’t I think they can work together at the start of JG run he was with sengun so I really do hope they don’t trade one of them
@@SwishCultureI agree that the FO wants them to win know but they can make trades with all their draft capital and maybe some other younger players but I think sengun and JG are the future of this team
@@colefontenla7599 I think this is one of the reasons they want to bring Sengun back. Do they get better when he returns or does JG regress? I personally would like to see the two develop since they're still so young. They'll figure it out of course. What they don't have is that guarantee that either of these guys will play at the level they seem to be projecting right now over the course of the next couple of years. This is after all an extension year. A superstar is a guaranteed high level player for the money they'll be paying Sengun and JG anyway. As much as I prefer homegrown talent, the league doesn't make it easy on teams to do that and if you get an established superstar for your "maybe", then it's worth it from a business stand point. Unfortunately that's the way the owners look at it. Not a popular move, but...what you gonna do.
Trading either one of these guys would be among the dumbest 💩 a franchise could do. The only people saying they can't play together are those who only started paying attention the last month.
Plus, we're winning with Green as Option 1. We tried Sengun as Option 1, and no disrespect to his talent, but that almost screwed up our chances of even having a chance at Play-In. Really do hope we end up keep both of them but if someone HAD to go, then Sengun has my vote.
I think that would be the right move if it comes down to it. Obviously I think most fans would prefer they keep the two, but they're itching to make a move.
@@RickyRank we know they aren't a good duo (at least for now), when it comes to trading conversation we played aganist one of the worst teams in the last 15 game so it's not a good indicator to make a trading, I think sengun has lots of potential than jalen but yeah jalen playing great nowadays, we'll see what happens
I would rather keep Senguin than Green. All the props in the world for Jalen finally finding his groove, but there's something about this kid I don't trust. He's got a Carmelo Anthony/James Harden vibe about him. Senguin on the other hand, comes across a more serious kid, a serious baller who will stay consistent. With Jalen Green, right now he's riding high, but I dunno, he could also come crashing down partying too much with Lil Baby.
Alp and Green played at a faster pace last year before our new offense was implemented this year. I think that the coaching staff made a mistake trying to force Green to adjust to this slower paced offense. It wasn’t Green that improved, he was always capable of this level of play. So sick of this mindset that we need a “superstar” to become a contender! So we send off all our young talent for some overpaid star that has 2-3 years left or one that is injury prone. The only palatable trade for a superstar is for Tatum or Giannis. No one else. Edit: oh and bring back KPJ at a huge discount considering his situation. We would be +6 more wins right now if he was here.
This ain’t the Daryl morey led rockets they ain’t trading young promising potential all star players for win now guys. Stone knows what the goal is and it ain’t win now mode
Keep both the only problem is they are undersize sengun need play as more as pf and learn shoot 3.while green need play pg or combo guard imroved playmaking.Need add center that can rim protect reb.
lol he literally dominated Wembey at center it’s that’s Thompson needs to learn how to shoot he’s been doing playing pf lately and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Jabari is the one that’s has to go
😂😂😂😂😂😂 The Rockets not trading any of the 2, 😂😂 I know the media would love that because they hate on the Rockets but not gonna happen, and what non basketball playing person would say get rid of your future star center because you're a young guard is playing well?? Man y'all silly 😂😂😂😂 gotta get them views so that RUclips check hits huh😂😂 Rocket fans don't listen to the media talking non since, one media clown that put that story out and they ran with it because this is what they would love to see but it's not gonna happen, after it doesn't rocket fans should unsubscribe from every platform that's pushing this narrative trying to tear down our team just for clicks and views, with zero evidence of the story even being true, it's all speculation they never heard Stone or ime ever say that , this is casual fans who don't really watch the Rockets making up stories because they believe Jalen green is playing well right now
100% agree. This nonsense makes zero sense. They know he is a top5 center and a dynasty piece. These goofies don't know what to do with themselves. Too bad for them The owner isn't a goofy and is serious about winning 😂😂😂😂😂😂. There are people from other camps trying to propagandize these false narratives because what the Rockets have created is a threat. A big threat. I'll be as bold to say one of the best teams all time. They are poised.
Too sad for them the owner is from Houston and one of the most powerful dudes in Houston 😂😂😂 Too bad for them. Too bad that the owner is a bad ass that wants to helps bring more revenue to his businesses through his professional Basketball club. Too bad huh 😂😂😂😂 .
Yeah saw too udokas sister talking about the promising young players of Houston without mentioning Alpi, she not only did not mention him she also said rockets needed an athletic rim protector that paired with udokas answer that he hasn't decided if he would bring alpi off the bench if he returned this season are indicators that the rockets seem not to plan for the long term with alpi
This is terrible analysis by you because the overall record don’t tell the story. For one green has always been started and Sengun didn’t in his rookie year.
Tim who? Is he even around the rockets or just pure speculation. Nobody is getting traded. Go watch a post game conference and listen to what udoka has said. I'd rather listen to him then these journalists that aren't around the team
@@djmill8000 Not sure how true that is. Landale has been getting a huge run at center, he is less skill and has less mobility than Sengun and the rockets are still running. What is making the rockets doesn't seem to be Sengun being out. It has more to do with Amen Thompson being in. Long term it is more likely that Amen replaces Dillon Brooks in the starting 5, not taking Sengun off.
@@williamdavis9562 it's different, lendale makes quick decisions after getting the ball because he is not trying to be a hub, when Sengun gets the ball, he posting up, and trying to be more of a facilitator. The ball pops more with landale.. Sometimes less is more. It's good that Sengun has a skill set that allows him to be able to make reads and do all that, but not every team would care that you can. Less is more. Example, Chet doesn't have Sengun skill set, but Chet with SGA is the perfect fit. SGA with Sengun is a no go . Less is more
@@djmill8000 Not sure I agree with that. According to that logic Sabonis wouldn't be able to play with Fox. Nor would Jokic co-exist with Sabonis. People are jumping to conclusions far too quicky because of a 3 week stretch of games not to mention all the other variables.
@@SwishCulture Long enough for me to mention it. It been a few months now since them rumoring to trade someone was reported. Long enough that no local Houston media sources are mentioning it. So long that it's well past the trade deadline. Speaking on this is stating the obvious. The Rockets made a statement long ago that everyone was on the table for the right offer. But currently they are looking to trade no one. No mentions have been made to move anyone this offseason either. Everything has been fan speculation
@@rebitedon That's interesting considering what's happening is that the media is using a number of things to project a move by Houston. These things include the attempt to acquire a star player (Harden) last summer, a high level role player (Bridges) two months ago which was denied. If JG along with picks could be traded for Bridges, why wouldn't the rockets take a swing at a big star in the offseason? They are clearly already out of patience. I would prefer the guys stay with their franchise as I hate when young players get traded, but to say it's old when it's talking about the potential move based on what the team has been doing isn't exactly accurate.
@@SwishCulture It's accurate when your sources are form last off-season and and a 2 month old deadline. What you're mentioning here isn't something we don't already know. Also considering the resent explosion from Green and the Slump from Bridges. To mention that the Rockets made the offer to make that trade in itself is old news. You think they would trade Green for Bridges now at their current playing levels? Site a recent source.
@@SwishCulture It would be more accurate to assume the Rockets would try to keep Green and Sengun and find a Star to pair with them. Fred and Brooks are more likely to be traded.
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Probably just me, but I just feel like the media hating on what Houston Rockets got all together and now they want a piece of it
Just you. And a few others who conjure up enemies for your own purposes.
Rockets never been great at building superstars or building around them. You see potential in Houston you beg them to leave before career end up wasted
You don’t have to trade either. They were on a 4-1 run before Sengun got injured
They lost the game to the Suns before that 4-1 run started and lost to the Clippers. Not bad teams to lose to at all. Unfortunately, the FO is gonna look at the season as a whole and while they can improve and likely will. It's still a gamble to keep them both if you have a guaranteed superstar. I'm not saying that's the right move, it's just the move that gives the FO more security.
@SwishCulture beat the Suns twice last season, Lakers twice, Nuggets 3X, Kings 3 X, Pels twice, beat OKC, beat Bucks. Some good teams
Nobody in Houston is crazy enough to trade for Kevin Durant at this stage of his career
Brandon Ingram for Sengun & the Nets pick for this year
As a rockets fan I’m good rather keep him and draft picks
@@lookoutlordynope I’ll keep sengun
They can literally be a younger version of JOKIC and MURRAY. Why break that combination up?!?!
Because of the rumor mill and those that profit from it. Also other GMs/execs and fans from others teams want them so they are likely fueling the fire. Don't trust them 🐍 Just enjoy them playing until some dumb exec (stone) screws it up.
Land a star player? 😂 Green, Sengun, and Amen are all stars in the making.
And that would be the reason the FO would make the move. Not saying it's the right move, but if there's a proven star, you take the proven star over the unproven one (which is a gamble)
They could do well in getting a reliable star veteran tho. I’d resign JG now before he becomes more expensive and throw a boat load of money towards Steph for 3 years and see if I can make something of Brooklyns Pick.
@@Sincity702boySteph and Jalen? Jalen needs the ball. Steph won't wanna play 2nd fiddle
@@bjrnthebootybandit he made it work with Jordan poole, Jalen right now looks to be in a better trajectory than JP. The only thing worrisome is that JG has only looked like this for a month. But Steph with those to plus Cam/Amen and Dillon could some damage next year.
@@bjrnthebootybandit that’s also what they said about Luka and Kyrie last year.
There will be no trade involving Green or Sengun..
Say ong.
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Green must be traded, he is not stable during season. He plays only at the end of the seasons and is missing at the beginning and the mid of the seasons. Sengun is the star and the future of the Houston, like Hakeem in the past. Houston must give highest contract to Sengun immediately
this is stupid. the warriors drafted Steph curry and Klay Thompson and build around those guys, why can't the rockets do the same with Alpi and JG?
Biggest mistake if they trade Alpi or Jalen, they have to find a way to play togheter. This duo can be magical the upcomming years
Neither Sengun or Green are getting a Max Rookie extension this off-season. Deciding who to keep off the 2 will decide on what type of star they acquire. If they get a Guard star then Green will be traded if they get a Forward/Center then Sengun will be traded. If I was the Rockets GM I would keep Sengun but as a non-Rocket fan that's hoping my team trades with them, I would prefer to get Sengun.
This shit cap the rocket not trading nobody be Frl 😂
Fr it’s probably Fred if anyone is getting traded
I've seen this script way to many times. See this is why many teams stay on the bottom. We've seen this with Shaquille O'Neal in Orlando, we saw this with Antoine Walker with the Boston Celtics, Ray Allen with the Milwaukee Bucks, Kiki Vandeweghe with the Denver Nuggets Jason Kidd with the Dallas Mavericks, Donovan Mitchell with the Utah jazz, Kevin Durant with OKC, Kawhi Leonard with San Antonio etc. I wouldn't move either one of those two. But what I would do is sit them both down and counsel them, reminding them of the ultimate goal. Because once your traded that first time, your value drops each and every time you switch teams
The values do drop, but you know how these front offices are.
@@SwishCulture Yes, the value of a player only carries with the team that drafted them, regardless of the production. Which is why Shaq, Walker, Allen, and many other great players were traded around the league. You see, when a team acquires a free agent, it's to satisfy a need, and if that need isn't met, they are again traded over and over again.
This is why I persistently kept saying the Warriors should have moved on from Andrew Wiggins last season, the need was met when they won the championship, but after running back the exact same team(big mistake), teams catch up to you and learn how to beat you. So when Wiggins had that down season the Warriors should have moved on(it's a business).
Orlando wasn't threatening to trade shaq. The moral of the story was Lakers offered him a big contract and he left. It was that simple. If anything it was shaq who started the beef with penny, the same way he did with kobe. Penny was a pass first point guard, he didn't mind passing to shaq. When shaq was hurt in penny second year penny was leading the team and getting media coverage and shaq hated it the same way he hated anytime he wasn't the center of attention throughout his career. The same way he hated when Andrew bynum was the new center in L.A, When dwight was the new center in orlando. The same way he hated on hakeem, lied on David Robinson, kept picking on Javale mcgee, hated on Rudy golbert massive contract with utah. Shaq is a hater and was throughout his career.
@@coreyjohnson5346 That sounds a little personal and I respectfully disagree in terms of the purpose behind his movement. Orlando low balled Shaq finamcially as they didn't meet his demands on the contract. Shaq stated that he gave Orlando every opportunity to match the offered but they deferred. He said had they matched the offered he would have stayed in Orlando. As for Anfernee Hardaway, he had no animosity towards him. In fact, Penny stated that he was "hurt" behind his departure and felt betrayed. That doesn't sound like a person that had as you felt, "beef" with him teammate.
They were close and had remained friends after they changed teams. Singling out Shaq as if his ego was to big for the team is wrong, because (all) players have egos, it goes with playing professional sports. LeBron James has the softest of any ego I've ever seen from a professional athlete, he's as fragile as it gets.
Check;
1- Last two years of Rockets. Even the tanking rockets started to win by the end of regular seasons. Even when the teams weren't this easy going.
2- JG of 2 years ago end of season statistics. Exactly the same as now. JG shines great when the things aren't serious.
I always supported JG's superstar candidate position. But he need to proove himself, if he will be there when there is the need. Not by the end of season, when teams are resting, tanking or preventing injury before play-offs. If he shows that stability, he will be great.
Very good comment.
This is such a casual take. This stretch is NOT similar to the last two years at all. The defense, playmaking, plus minus, IQ, and rebounding is clear as day. While also carrying this team to wins and pushing to a playoff spot.
@@anthonyoakley3637 I think the point is that JG needs to be consistent over the course of an entire year. Of course he's improving, but the general sense that he comes and goes hasn't been disproven just yet.
Lol. Why would they trade one of those players when they both basically made a leap this year? Them offering Jalen for Bridges happen before Jalen figured it out. National media starting narratives they cant coexist is kinda silly tbh. A big thats great down low, attracts double teams & a WILLING passer paired with a dynamic scoring guard. Looks like a recipe for a great offense. Literally the same archetype of a Sabonis & Fox tandem. Somewhat Jokic & Murray? History has it, a great big always need a dynamic guard and vice versa. Why break it up this early? The dumb part, doing it IMMEDIATELY this offseason. Why not wait to see how they look like next season? Whats the rush? You already seen growth form both & added 16more wins & counting this season from the previous year - 22wins to 38wins with still 9games left..
The same reason the Lakers traded away everyone. If you're getting a top ten player, and you're trying to win now, that's what NBA teams do.
yeah...this is fake news....just to get clicks...
@@SwishCulture lmfao. Really believe they go that course after two of their homegrown talent made a leap this year? Is that really the smart move? Rush everything?
Remember Lakers only did that coz LeBron came to them in FREE AGENCY, the timeline changed. Needed to pair him with another proven star. That's different from breaking up two emerging young star. Literally not the same circumstances..
@@Chris-uq7in I said this before, but I'll say it again here. JG was my favorite player from this draft. I liked Sengun, but didn't know too much about him and he was undersized at the time. To see them develop is really amazing. Now the problem is that all NBA franchises are businesses. Businesses make business decisions.
You know what you'll get with a proven superstar with a track record. They're going to give you a certain level of consistency, not just flashes. You already know what you're getting and it's a very high level of basketball. With young talents like JG and Sengun, they look great right now, but what do you get in the postseason? What will you get a year from now? Two years from now? With JG, you didn't even know what you were going to get a month down the road.
Two months ago the kid was on the trading block. The only reason he isn't at this very moment is because the deadline has already passed. The team knows they need a consistent high level talent to compete and they just don't know if that's what they have yet with these guys. You've heard of Linsanity, right? If you understand that then you get what I'm saying. I love the players, but I can understand what Shams, Tim L and Tim M are saying, as well as the two times the front office tried to get a superstar in the past 9 months.
Yeah it never real works out when we look at teams try and trade it all for stars and end up with nothing. Rather have home grown talent and trade picks for great role players
Everyone around the league is pushing this narrative because the Rockets are loaded with young talent from Sengun, Smith, Eason, Whitmore, Thompson and Green. We already have seem Segun and Green playing together and winning after Allstar break before Sengun injury and Green's numbers were better with Sengun. Now you add the maturation of Thompson it gives Houston a potential lineup of Sengun, Smith, Thompson, Green, and VanVleet. Thompson can play all 1-4 and the Rockets can interchange a lot of players in the 2-4 positions.
Honestly, that is no superstar young enough that I would take. Keep what we got.
Udoka and the staff aren’t stupid enough to make a drastic trade this early.
True Rockets fans know that we have something good brewing. Jalen, Alpi, Amen, Bari IS the future. Plus Cam and Tari. The media is just making these stuff up to mess up what is about to be a good Houston team. We are on the rise.
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked after hearing all the dumb rumors about trading Green for Mikal Bridges. The reality is that Ime Udoka has completely turned around this franchise. Stone made some good picks but until this season, he didn't have a coach that could mold them into championship level players.
Look you can never say never no to every trade, because it might be too good to pass up, but I really doubt that you could get fair value trading Green or Sengun because they are just too good. If Stone somehow trades one of those 2 for non top 5 players, after they have been working together for the last 3 years and finally starting to click under Ime, then I think he simply doesn't know what he is doing as a whole as GM.
it's obvious jg is better without sengun. but i wonder if that's about sengun specifically... something tells me jg is gonna be even more incompatible with embiid. jg just wants center empty so he can drive in and do his acrobatics.
That's why a stretch 5 would be his best bet. Embiid seems decent with Maxey, but I don't think the rest of that supporting cast is up to the task. Other than that, maybe a Valanciunas would get it done and he's a free agent this summer.
Rockets have to keep all the team together + add more power from the #1 picks if they want to build the super team of the near future. If they'd like keep the team and wages small, THEY as a team will become small. They will say bye to success. If they will be able keep the team together, they may have a great team in the very close future.
They’re not training either one. You need Shengun against the likes of Jokic and Wemby. You drafted JG to be this, now that he’s finally getting it, u trade him? They have a top 3 HC, Udoka can make it work. This team with players coming back from injury plus a couple of FA signings could be a contender next year, with the suns and gsw looking like they’re done contending for awhile. Spurs too will be in play next year I think.
THEY SHOULD KEEP BOTH. IN OKC SGA AND CHET HAVE WORK SO WELL.ITS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN HOUSTON
There is LITERALLY NO report that the team is thinking this. Green was on the block but he was just playing bad. His shots per game is the same he was JUST NOT MAKING THEM!
So...you just admitted in the post that they did it, but also saying there's no report that they did? Pick a side.
@@SwishCultureyou are not understanding what he posted at all he said the team did not report this, and he gave his own thoughts on how green was playing before all this.
@@vincenthammons-kd9du Did the team report that they changed their mind on trading Green? The last report stated that they tried and were turned down. Regardless of how Jalen Green is playing currently, no report has come out that he is off limits.
It is clear that Sengun and Green don't mesh as well together as their talents would dictate and the Rockets have been trying to get a star since the beginning of last season. One month of Jalen Green playing great isn't the holy grail for the Rockets if Stone is worth any salt.
If you can't watch objectively, find another hobby instead of mindless commenting. It looks bad on you and even worse on the people that defend you. Have a good day, guys.
@@SwishCultureactually yes their has been reports that the rockets changed their minds. And the reports coming out that they are still willing to trade them are coming from other organizations.
Apparently to try and push this false narrative so they can drive a wedge and try to "pry one of them away from Houston."
Houston themselves feel very confident that green and sengun can play well together. And basically anyone who actually pays attention to the rockets actual play knows that too.
@@SwishCulturethey do mesh well. Jalen was getting the same shots. Just wasn’t making them. Now he’s making them so ppl just creating storylines now 😂😂.
They aren't trading either. All these rumors have been started by outsiders, especially NY media.
@jus3278.
This narrative that the Rockets are playing faster because Sengun is off the floor which opens up Jalen's game surely makes sense for people just looking at the stats and not watching the game. This childish narrative has been floating around the media for weeks now.
The with the old staring 5, there was only one guy on the floor who could run like a deer, which is Jalen. You can't be a fast pace breaking team with just 1 guy who can run. Enter Amen Thompson. Two guys who can run like the wind can make you a running team.
As I said earlier, anyone who has been watching the games seems to understand it is Amen being on the floor which has changed everything. Not the fact Sengun is out. I'd imagine long term the Rockets probably sacrifice Dillon Brooks to get Amen on the floor.
So I agree with you that the rockets won't be trading either. They'll let Sengun and Jalen get a full run next year perhaps with Amen in the starting lineup to see how that looks.
NY Media is not worrying about The Rockets. The guy who started the rumor covers The Dallas Mavs and Shams is National Media.
@marlinesutherland5358 lots of Brooklyn Nets media speaking on it because Rockets own their draft picks.
@@jus3278 Media in generally discussing what's being reported aren't the ones pushing the narratives it's the ones who started the rumors first and that Shams who is National Insider.
Rockets media covered the story too are they pushing the narratives? or are they discussing what Shams reported?
OKC will trade a few 1st round picks for Sengum. My God, SGA, Chet, J Williams, Sengum together?? WCF right away
lol if anything it would be Jabari smith getting traded
HEY THEY ARE BOTH YOUNG AND SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO LEARN HOW TO GET THE BEST OUT OF BOTH. DON'T GO OUT AND GET AN OLD MAN TO REPLACE TWO YOUNG ONES, MAKE IT WORK AS IS
What in the freak is the dude talking about. Sengun green are FRANCHISE PLAYERS. No way they trade them they are too committed. Such a stupid dialogue.
They will both successful in their future
As a rockets fan I hope they don’t I think they can work together at the start of JG run he was with sengun so I really do hope they don’t trade one of them
I think they should take their time, but the FO wants to get back to winning. Rebuilding can be fun, but they've gotta keep the lights on.
@@SwishCultureI agree that the FO wants them to win know but they can make trades with all their draft capital and maybe some other younger players but I think sengun and JG are the future of this team
@@colefontenla7599 I think this is one of the reasons they want to bring Sengun back. Do they get better when he returns or does JG regress? I personally would like to see the two develop since they're still so young. They'll figure it out of course. What they don't have is that guarantee that either of these guys will play at the level they seem to be projecting right now over the course of the next couple of years. This is after all an extension year. A superstar is a guaranteed high level player for the money they'll be paying Sengun and JG anyway. As much as I prefer homegrown talent, the league doesn't make it easy on teams to do that and if you get an established superstar for your "maybe", then it's worth it from a business stand point. Unfortunately that's the way the owners look at it. Not a popular move, but...what you gonna do.
Jalen is justbnot hittin his shot when he was with sengun.. now he is hittin open shots.. they gonna be aight.
Trading either one of these guys would be among the dumbest 💩 a franchise could do.
The only people saying they can't play together are those who only started paying attention the last month.
They wanted Brook Lopez for this exact reason Jalen is doing well right now!
Rockets should not make a trade unless it's for a top 10 player that probably has not been made available yet.
Shii here we go again with this bullshieet. Nobody getting traded…foh
Please leave this backstabbing organization Alperen..
I hope Jalen goes to the lakers
I don’t think the front office is this stupid to trade either
they just said they wanted to extend both
They did say they wanted to extend Sengun, but that was around the time they were trying to trade JG
Nope sengun and green are getting extended. They both getting the max extension
I think that’s what they want but I’m not sure if they can tackle the financial obstacles they will face in that scenario…
I say keep them all together and let everybody get healthy and what we have... Tori Cam and Amen.. And we should have a good team
I love Sangun, but if it’s him or Jalen then it’s bye to Sangun because Jalen has a higher ceiling with superstar writing all over him.. Go Rockets!!
Plus, we're winning with Green as Option 1. We tried Sengun as Option 1, and no disrespect to his talent, but that almost screwed up our chances of even having a chance at Play-In. Really do hope we end up keep both of them but if someone HAD to go, then Sengun has my vote.
I think that would be the right move if it comes down to it. Obviously I think most fans would prefer they keep the two, but they're itching to make a move.
@@RickyRank we know they aren't a good duo (at least for now), when it comes to trading conversation we played aganist one of the worst teams in the last 15 game so it's not a good indicator to make a trading, I think sengun has lots of potential than jalen but yeah jalen playing great nowadays, we'll see what happens
I would rather keep Senguin than Green. All the props in the world for Jalen finally finding his groove, but there's something about this kid I don't trust. He's got a Carmelo Anthony/James Harden vibe about him. Senguin on the other hand, comes across a more serious kid, a serious baller who will stay consistent. With Jalen Green, right now he's riding high, but I dunno, he could also come crashing down partying too much with Lil Baby.
I love Jalen but Sengun is level end boss. Hes becoming an allstar in nextyears.
There is no chance the rockets should trade for durant hell nah overrated dont need him
I'd hope they wouldn't. Don't reward the Suns for giving up what they had.
Green has not proved anything yet. He is famous for short-term flashes.
Shams is a bullshit artist. Segun and Green are a good duo.
Stop trying to create a stupid narrative. Make basketball sense. Ime Udoka, enough said.
Alp and Green played at a faster pace last year before our new offense was implemented this year. I think that the coaching staff made a mistake trying to force Green to adjust to this slower paced offense. It wasn’t Green that improved, he was always capable of this level of play. So sick of this mindset that we need a “superstar” to become a contender! So we send off all our young talent for some overpaid star that has 2-3 years left or one that is injury prone.
The only palatable trade for a superstar is for Tatum or Giannis. No one else.
Edit: oh and bring back KPJ at a huge discount considering his situation. We would be +6 more wins right now if he was here.
no need to move anyone lol alperen jalen amen big 3 dont mess up thos young stars 😂
This ain’t the Daryl morey led rockets they ain’t trading young promising potential all star players for win now guys. Stone knows what the goal is and it ain’t win now mode
Sengun to GSW we selling Green, Moody and Chris Paul
Don't touch Moody
It's like jokic and Murray 2.0
Keep both the only problem is they are undersize sengun need play as more as pf and learn shoot 3.while green need play pg or combo guard imroved playmaking.Need add center that can rim protect reb.
lol he literally dominated Wembey at center it’s that’s Thompson needs to learn how to shoot he’s been doing playing pf lately and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Jabari is the one that’s has to go
Just hold both it will play it's self out
Yall want Wiggins? 🥺
😂😂😂😂😂😂 The Rockets not trading any of the 2, 😂😂 I know the media would love that because they hate on the Rockets but not gonna happen, and what non basketball playing person would say get rid of your future star center because you're a young guard is playing well?? Man y'all silly 😂😂😂😂 gotta get them views so that RUclips check hits huh😂😂 Rocket fans don't listen to the media talking non since, one media clown that put that story out and they ran with it because this is what they would love to see but it's not gonna happen, after it doesn't rocket fans should unsubscribe from every platform that's pushing this narrative trying to tear down our team just for clicks and views, with zero evidence of the story even being true, it's all speculation they never heard Stone or ime ever say that , this is casual fans who don't really watch the Rockets making up stories because they believe Jalen green is playing well right now
100% agree. This nonsense makes zero sense. They know he is a top5 center and a dynasty piece. These goofies don't know what to do with themselves. Too bad for them The owner isn't a goofy and is serious about winning 😂😂😂😂😂😂. There are people from other camps trying to propagandize these false narratives because what the Rockets have created is a threat. A big threat. I'll be as bold to say one of the best teams all time. They are poised.
Too sad for them the owner is from Houston and one of the most powerful dudes in Houston 😂😂😂 Too bad for them. Too bad that the owner is a bad ass that wants to helps bring more revenue to his businesses through his professional Basketball club. Too bad huh 😂😂😂😂 .
You sound like you're not from Houston. We don't care what you think!
Well, I'm sure Houston cares what Ime thinks and if his family doesn't see Sengun as part of the future, I'm not sure what to tell you.
You sound like an un-educated douche bag. Wake up son @@SwishCulture
STFU son! You have no clue what's going on in the H @@SwishCulture
Yeah saw too udokas sister talking about the promising young players of Houston without mentioning Alpi, she not only did not mention him she also said rockets needed an athletic rim protector that paired with udokas answer that he hasn't decided if he would bring alpi off the bench if he returned this season are indicators that the rockets seem not to plan for the long term with alpi
I been saying I would trade Sengun. He not better than Embiid or Jokic and they have squads built around him. Can’t win like that
Aren’t they still under contract for next season? They have till next years trade deadline to see what they have
The team is operating in "win now" mode. They have to offer contract extensions this offseason.
Sengun to OKC for a bundle of 1st round picks? 🤔
This casts off as hate. Makes no sense whatsoever!!
It seems premature to break them up, but the writing has been on the wall. The FO has tried to get a proven superstar twice in the last year.
@@SwishCulture
The writing is by a shit journalist.
This is terrible analysis by you because the overall record don’t tell the story. For one green has always been started and Sengun didn’t in his rookie year.
He's word means nothing
Tim who? Is he even around the rockets or just pure speculation. Nobody is getting traded. Go watch a post game conference and listen to what udoka has said. I'd rather listen to him then these journalists that aren't around the team
Sengun for D Green... Brooks and Green for a full Villain mode 😁. They should get Pat Bev too.
Tim is a biased Mavericks fan thats virtually wrong every take I've seen him have an opinion on.
They need al to guard the bigs. Al is one of a kind and hard to find.
One of the hardest spots to fill nowadays.
Rockets with Sengun is like driving a Ferrari in rush hour traffic
@@djmill8000 Not sure how true that is.
Landale has been getting a huge run at center, he is less skill and has less mobility than Sengun and the rockets are still running.
What is making the rockets doesn't seem to be Sengun being out. It has more to do with Amen Thompson being in. Long term it is more likely that Amen replaces Dillon Brooks in the starting 5, not taking Sengun off.
@@williamdavis9562 it's different, lendale makes quick decisions after getting the ball because he is not trying to be a hub, when Sengun gets the ball, he posting up, and trying to be more of a facilitator. The ball pops more with landale.. Sometimes less is more. It's good that Sengun has a skill set that allows him to be able to make reads and do all that, but not every team would care that you can. Less is more. Example, Chet doesn't have Sengun skill set, but Chet with SGA is the perfect fit. SGA with Sengun is a no go . Less is more
@@djmill8000 Not sure I agree with that.
According to that logic Sabonis wouldn't be able to play with Fox. Nor would Jokic co-exist with Sabonis.
People are jumping to conclusions far too quicky because of a 3 week stretch of games not to mention all the other variables.
KD caught another stray
I mean... You putting money on the Suns?
Ain't happening!!!!🥱😤😡
Move Sengun to Warriors
hmm.
Terrible vid lol
Reading your replies first convinced me your video would be even worse. Thumbs down.
Thanks for the comment, Lou.
Sengun cant run on fast break Trade Sengun,Fred aquire Ja Morant
Trade Sengun!
If they can get a player that's a better fit alongside Green in a star player, they'll be dangerous next season.
This news is outdated.
By how long?
@@SwishCulture Long enough for me to mention it. It been a few months now since them rumoring to trade someone was reported. Long enough that no local Houston media sources are mentioning it. So long that it's well past the trade deadline.
Speaking on this is stating the obvious. The Rockets made a statement long ago that everyone was on the table for the right offer. But currently they are looking to trade no one. No mentions have been made to move anyone this offseason either. Everything has been fan speculation
@@rebitedon That's interesting considering what's happening is that the media is using a number of things to project a move by Houston. These things include the attempt to acquire a star player (Harden) last summer, a high level role player (Bridges) two months ago which was denied. If JG along with picks could be traded for Bridges, why wouldn't the rockets take a swing at a big star in the offseason? They are clearly already out of patience. I would prefer the guys stay with their franchise as I hate when young players get traded, but to say it's old when it's talking about the potential move based on what the team has been doing isn't exactly accurate.
@@SwishCulture It's accurate when your sources are form last off-season and and a 2 month old deadline. What you're mentioning here isn't something we don't already know.
Also considering the resent explosion from Green and the Slump from Bridges. To mention that the Rockets made the offer to make that trade in itself is old news. You think they would trade Green for Bridges now at their current playing levels?
Site a recent source.
@@SwishCulture It would be more accurate to assume the Rockets would try to keep Green and Sengun and find a Star to pair with them. Fred and Brooks are more likely to be traded.
Cap
You are just hating at this point
Who's hating?
Not true