Finalmouse UltralightX Review | With recommendations for all 3 sizes and grip tips
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2023
- Update: To be clear, the limbo jumps don't happen too much with the gold version, but do on the blue, so after speaking with others and getting more feedback, seems it's a quality control issue on the blue, but the scroll is at normal levels for limbo jumps on the gold. Every wheel will have them from time to time, just how it is. I was worried because I had heaps on the blue copy, but it makes sense it's just a defective unit.
Finalmouse are back with even lighter mice, so they top the amazing magnesium Starlights and they return to the top positions on the Top Mice list. The Starlights were removed due to being discontinued, otherwise, they would've retained the top position over the Viper V2 and G Pro X.
So these mice are even lighter but also offer some new and great features, definitely worth a look! And I'm told they will be in continual production, so at some point, once demand is fulfilled, we'll see them always available throughout the year. Looking forward to that, as I know so many people were missing out on previous drops or having to buy from scalpers (not recommended, by the way).
Anyway, great to see Finalmouse leading the way again, to even lighter weight and a cool new battery life feature on the puck. Love to see it.
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Update: To be clear, the limbo jumps don't happen too much with the gold version, but do on the blue, so after speaking with others and getting more feedback, seems it's a quality control issue on the blue, but the scroll is at normal levels for limbo jumps on the gold. Every wheel will have them from time to time, just how it is. I was worried because I had heaps on the blue copy, but it makes sense it's just a defective unit.
"a quality control issue"
SHOCKING... actually no LoL
@@FcoEnriquePerez Every company has QC issues, nothing is perfect, not sure what you're trying to joke about here but it's pretty standard. If it becomes a known factor and a lot of wheels are like that, then yeah that's a problem, but if it's just a one off, then ... completely normal.
@@RocketJumpNinjahe's joking about how "notorious" finalmouse is with QC issues, without recognizing they are an extremely small company in comparison to many of the other mice companies.
@@RocketJumpNinja My man, are you new here?... I know you aren't.... they aren't neither.
you should review the ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition
Love the part when he compares the ULX to the g302 and then tells us you'd need two of them to weigh similarly to it
I saw a different review of this mouse, and I was sure it was not 76g. The reveal of it being 2 units is kinda genius, it gives you a better comparison.
i was mind blown
Damn i used to watch your videos back in the day and just got sugested your vid again, wanted to say quick thanks for many years of great videos.
Great video! Love how in depth you went on the important aspects of the shape, I feel like I got more out of this than some reviews talking 15 minutes about how every dimension of a mouse compares with other mice.
I remeber I watched a video of your way back when I first got my gaming mouse. Got the Razer Basilisk wired. All these later I am still using it but now with the wireless pro version. Still watching your awesome content all those years later. Keep it up. 🎉
thanks for adressing the issue with scrollwheels getting stuck mid step, this has been a major issue for me with the past few mice to the point where I just went with a EC2-CW which has the best scrollwheel for me, no issues.
coolest hand cam ever! Great review
Your youtube channel has definitely opened alot of peoples eyes to whats important in choosing a good mouse, i honestly think that you are one of the reasons this mouse even exists today
I literally test drove a Cobra Pro to get an idea of the ULX size I want. Thanks for the size guide RJN!
Incredible!! Can’t wait to see much lighter ones out there from them! I got an ULX can’t wait for it to arrive!
How long did it take to deliver
@@braags4611 got last Saturday. next batches shouldn’t take that long i suppose
Nice video review, hopefully I will get my hands on one soon
That scroll wheel issue caused TenZ to die in Haven/Icebox once in a VCT match. It is sad that we are still having scroll wheel issues even if its a demo device. I had to get my TenZ med encoder swapped to a ALPS encoder and it got rid of the issues.
Really? Which tournament was it? The League?
It's not a demo unit, it's the final product.
how did you get the encoder swapped? did you pay someone to do it? I'm considering doing the same, since I soldering is a bit out of my alley lol
I think it’s funny that tenZ has his own finalmouse model but STILL decides to main a
@@sjofelumskThe one TenZ used
I'm currently maining a pulsar x2 mini bruce lee edition, and the smallest version of the UltralightX is dimensionally only a little bit smaller than the x2 mini. I'm a pretty hardcore claw grip but im currently debating between either getting the small or medium size for the UltralightX. What an incredible mouse from the reviews ive seen so far!
19x10 claw gripper here, I can claw the small starlight. I think you should try the medium as it's gonna be to you first, and then refund it if you feel like you can go smaller. Alternatively you can buy the small and then go up once they're in continuous production
@@careless2429 appreciate the tip
@@Divinity_vA thank you man I appreciate the tip, yeah I figure the small might be my best bet as the dimensions are most similar at least in terms of length and width. My main concern at the moment is the sides of the final mouse are slimmer than the x2 which I may have to try and adjust to and im ngl i love the shape of the x2 as its the mouse that has best supported my grip so far. honestly if I end up not finding the finalmouse not to be for me I was considering getting an x2h mini since the shape on that looks super appealing to my grip style.
On a separate note in your experience with finalmouse what kind of mousepad did you find the most comfortable with it? Also if you did, what feet did you use or are the stock pretty good? I know its sort of a subjective question but i'm just curious from your experience. thanks!
Remember guys, no need to fight over your FOMO with this mouse. Just keep waiting until you're comfortable to purchase. The longer you wait, the better the QC gets as they get more and more complaints and RMAs. There's usually a better chance that later batches will be even more consistent with their intended quality for mice. No guarantees on that matter tho, just pure speculation.
I really don’t like the hypebeast culture that they are trying to create with these mice.
@@InfectiousViper trying? I think they already did create it years ago.
@@InfectiousViper if anything, it seems as if FinalMouse is finally moving away from that hype beast method of marketing they've been doing since their inception.
@@InfectiousViperlove it or hate it, it’s clear that it made the company extremely successful, as I don’t know of a single other company that successfully made people just buy their peripherals as art pieces (besides maybe razer)
@@InfectiousViper it is a business strategy, and their mice do perform. I mean they are dominating.
Day 1 MZ1 and MZ1 wireless buyer, knew it was my mouse the minute you announced them. I'll try the UltralightX, but I know where I'll probably end up - staying with the MZ1 ;)
Much love Zy
As someone that uses scroll to jump, I guess I'm going to pass. Still can't believe there's issues with the scroll at this point with FM.
Mine just came in I can’t wait to use it
I really wanted to wait for this mouse it looks great and sounds amazing but i decided to go with the Lamzu OG Atlantis V2 cause as you said size and shape is king and the width on it looks a lot better then the Final mouse and the GPX which is my daily driver right now
Hi. A comment regarding hump position. I have an MZ1 and it's great. It feels super stable with a fingertip grip. Like you I grip it with my fingers further forward on the mouse (maybe even slightly more forward: I have large palms and relatively short fingers). However I do prefer mice with a hump towards the middle. The reason for this is that I have a very light and relaxed grip with my fingers in a neutral position, and this fits with holding the mouse at an angle and not straight in the hand. I like to fit the mouse to my hand, not my hand to the mouse. Having a hump towards the back makes the mouse tend to rotate straighter against this position, trying to make the hump fit in the hollow of my palm, and fighting a little against my natural grip. Tho maybe this plus the comfort grooves is what gives the MZ1 its stability. Also interestingly despite this, it's the least fatiguing mouse I've used -- my hunch is that the small size and low button height keeps my hand tension low.
Also, just btw, I like symmetrical mice more but I figured that the MZ1 was close enough to try out. I'm naturally right-handed but ambidextrous with mice, and I actually prefer gaming (FPS) with the MZ1 left-handed :D Mostly because my thumb feels better that way against the flatter side, rather than the other fingers. I've since padded out the other side a little with some tape to make it more symmetrical.
Also, just for info, I main an M8, but the the MZ1, while feeling quite different, is a very close second. I love small and maneuverable mice.
very nice i will get one when more are available thank u brother
good point about the wheel, wanted to get ULX, but as a cs dude i dont want to accidentally jump midgame. so plans changed. ty
Mine comes in Saturday!
Damn, that thing looks good. I really love the accents on the mouse Buttons. The blue one would match my Shroud keyboard in Style, but would love to see them in deep orange. :)
After all this time, why does Finalmouse still have issues with scroll wheels?
The wheel is hard to get right. They're trying to keep weight down to an absolute minimum while also making something that will last a long time. Unfortunately I don't think they thoroughly tested for limbo jumps, but I've let them know now so hopefully future versions will be ok or improved. The gold copy wasn't too bad at least.
I got a medium and it comes in tomorrow. Finally!!!
ive tried alot of different mice over the years from the g900, g502x plus , g pro, lamzu atlantis, glorious , razer death adder v3 pro , id say my fav mouse is the Razer basilisk v3 pro i just love the shape of that mouse the most comfortable mouse for my hand and i love having scroll wheel left and right click i think this should be a must for any mouse
The mouse is too heavy. I'll give mine out in a heartbeat
Just got mine today and it’s sick
I don't like the shape personally but the specs are really cool and innovative
cant wait for pwnage to make an ergo version of this in like 2 years
@@TMKMgo for sprime gaming gear , ergo shape , carbon fiber and 8khz
@@fabuloustheking2753 not the point of the joke, but sure, it seems promising, just wait for reviews since its a brand that popped out of nowhere and we cannot tell if this will be good
Right, innovative.. $190 for non-solid sides, no side grips included and a fucked up wheel AGAIN.
it is a very good mouse, keep hating brokie@@FcoEnriquePerez
Great vid, still sticking to the Zy's Rail though :)..
As a MZ1 main user I am wondering if you have plans to release an updated version of the MZ1 with smaller weight.
A 15-20g decrease will makes this shape reclaim the top spot for the most recommended mice if we go by your principles.
Finalmouse is leaving peoples in the dust with their progress of weight reduction, already moving beyond magnesium allow and look for carbon fiber mods.
It is like a whole decade of potential products based on the magnesium has been skipped.
Can't wait for your review of small 29g one. Right now I'm using v2 pro with modded baseplate and it's 48g, but switching to 29g damn that should feel like feather :)
lmao its gonna be 34grams minimum
@@whoisthatthingwhat did they confirm calculation bias? :)
@@XSFlanger 32=38, 29 = 34 im being generous
Waiting for xlite v3 and v3 mini so much! I'm using lamzu atlantis mini for fingertip grip, but recently tried the DAv3 pro, it was so good, but was too big. Looking for xlite v3 mini reviews when it goes on sale 🙃
I still prefer mz1 shape overall (even though cable died) but let’s be honest. The built quality on ultralight is much better. Mz1 always felt cranky made sound if holding it tight. Not a huge problem. But it exists.
Mice Daddy of RUclips, The Dr-Mr.RJN!
Great review. Too bad about the scroll wheel. I've owned 3 different versions of the ultralight mice and hey all had bq issues. Is this one better than previous ones?
Thanks for the section discussing grip with the mz1. I've had it since launch (aside from a brief gap when the cable died)
While I've liked it more than any other mouse so far, I feel like I've performed largely worse since switching and I'm wondering if it's awkward grip.
Nice review, just wanted to point out that the GPX is more comparable with the large ULX.
(ULX: 126mm Length x 59mm Grip Width x 38.4mm Height vs. GPX: 125 mm Length x 63.5mm Width x 40mm Height)
Thanks! And I just went based on small / medium / large for now, I'll compare them when I have them.
Love the fact that this is recored in 21:9, makes it look so great on my ultrawide.
I didn't know you designed the MZ1. I have been maining the MZ1 wireless for a little over a year now. I love the feel of it. The only thing is I wish they would come up with an update to help with the latency. All the other mice right now are getting really good with latency. I also rock glass skates on my mz1 and daily drive it all the time with the glass. It was a loooong time for me to get use to the 0 friction lol. I couldn't click anything for so long. I just kept dragging things around when trying to click on anything.
My biggest complaints so far with the MZ1 is just the tendency for the mouse to tip over on it sides. It doesn't like to stay very flat on the desk and I inadvertently tip it on its side sometimes making the sensor kinda go wack. Also the weight balance feels a little top heavy. Especially compared to a mouse like the MM712. On the MM712, it feels like the entire weight of the mouse is perfectly flat on the base. The last thing is just the switches the MZ1 uses. The initial click is good, but the rebound sometimes blends in a lot with the initial click and just feels a little off. It makes it harder to predict when you release the click. Would love some good optical switches on it. One thing I have to give credit for is xtrfys wireless tech is so much better than coolermasters. I can literally feel the jitteryness on my mm712 when tracking sometimes and I confirmed this looking at polling stability graphs. For some reason the coolermaster wireless tech is just really jittery and not super stable. On the MZ1 I haven't had a single drop out ever in the months and months of using it. And the mouse feel is super smooth and consistent. And the polling stability graphs reflect that as well.
@@IStratz THIS, I also have issues with tilting it and loosing rhe sensors in intence fights
Wait, is there any latency on mz1 wireless!? I going to but hold on rn😅
@tiendatnguyenhua4283 yea it's actually one of the worst ones out of all other gamer mice. So basically at 240hz you have about 2 frames of latency for quick reference math lol.
@@caddy7779 thanks for your feed back, so what mouse using on 240hz smooth can i buy? Im considering vaxee wireless or gpl superlight 2 ?
G302 still slaps to this day.
Oh yes the supreme brand of mice
Great review! Can I buy your Phantom?
Have you tried the Engame Op1we yet? I'm curious what you think about it. I have it now and have not to date, seen such solid build quality in a mouse and I''ve tried many of the ones on your list. Keep up the great videos!
Honestly I would use a MZ1 Wireless as I mained a wired MZ1 (cable died) but to get a wireless MZ1 in Canada, its ridiculously expensive compared to the wired version of the mouse.
Whats your take on using ultralight mice
Glad you stated that it's different for hard pads lol it definitely is.
any thoughts on these clicks compared to the ones on the ultralight 2?
everyone knows that we're only waiting for an updated version of your MZ1 wireless
When is Xtrfy gonna do a new release? Like I wanna see those nice shapes with no holes
Thx for the review! Will u also make one for the Wlmouse beast x?
I was wondering that too even a mini review would be nice too as some of the internals is different
love your vids Zy, could you possibly make a vid on the WLmouse Beast X medium or mini?
Same scroll wheel issue as my starlight, makes me weary of them ever fixing this...
It's a new encoder and most wheels have some limbo jumps, pretty standard, it's just I think the steps are too big or ... mechanical? Hard to describe, but these "click" into position, which you'd think would stop the limbo jumps, but actually makes them worse because there's enough tension to keep the wheel in place even between steps. It's a fine balance they have to find, I guess. They're aware of it now so we'll see how it goes. Again though, the gold copy wasn't too bad, just something that really hinders me these days when I play Apex.
It's insane to see that were still able to improve on mice these days. One question for you RJN, right now you're testing between the mz1 and ultralightX to see which one you perform best with, but do you have any opinion on which one feels the best to use? Essentially, is weight or shape the most important factor in making a mouse feel like an extension of your hand
We need an update mz1 pro, same shape with upgraded tech and maybe slightly lighter!
Personally a magnesium mz1 would be certified endgame for me
Sounds good to me, let Xtrfy know there's extra demand out here and not just me asking for it! No RGB, maybe more holes, thinner walls; go extra extra light.
@@RocketJumpNinja I personally love the RBG in the corrent MZ1. I do think a pro version would be amazing. I would buy it as long as it kept the same feel as the MZ1!
@@RocketJumpNinjamaybe skip the hull entirely and go for a fingertip only design like Optimum's mouse that just dropped. 28grams
Also for MZ1 - side buttons are mushy, change them for Kailh 8.0 and it's good. Then make M1 and M2 lighter clicks Omrons or TTC Golds....endgame mouse!! @@RocketJumpNinja
Something else to point out about low weight: it's less strain. I've had major surgery in right shoulder. The shoulder will never be what it was, but I've recovered and enjoy a mostly standard quality of life with only very minor issues (for example: I can still handwrite but the quality is lower than it was). I can still game with a mouse and keyboard, but I require a light weight and a low resistance in order for it to not cause strain, especially over longer gaming sessions.
I currently use a G Pro Superlight with a Logitech hard pad, and I can still get a good day of gaming in with only short breaks when I have the time. I'm very curious what Zy has to say about hard pads, as I'm considering upgrading to a glass pad soon, both for less resistance and also for longevity (the hard pad doesn't seem to last too long). I am worried about there being a point of negative returns, where there is so little resistance it causes more strain since I have to counter my own acceleration more as opposed to letting friction slow and/or stop the mouse.
When I used to play on cloth with a heavier mouse, it was unbearable after an hour of use post-surgery. Things needed to change ASAP. I'm VERY interested in this new finalmouse.
Well, I own a skypad 3.0 xl and the major problem is that you speed run mouse feets/skates in months, so you have to be ready to buy a bunch of mouse feet or dots
That's what I can say, but yeah, wait till he drop the hard pad video
I hear ya. Check out keyboards with rapid trigger to help (apex mini, Wooting)
I like the price and availability
This new FM is a great, can't deny that, but the MZ1 is so fucking perfect that I cannot see myself using anything else.
but how do you buy this mouse? there's no option to pre order...
Sadly many units rn have bad flexing on the side and palm part , the specs and shape are insane , but something like that is not okay , also the shipping delay is a joke , from aug 1 to december ! They updated the shipping for batch 1 again to 2-3 weeks , and 2nd batch will launch in dec 10th
They delayed the shipping for QC control , but even now many people who got it in the US complain about the flexing issue
I srsly hope finalmouse can improve that stuff otherwise i think they get a huge backlash
not being able to set my own dpi is an absolute deal breaker ima stick the the viper v2pro unless they change it
I’m patiently waiting for the Cheetah (S) version to drop 🙃
I got ability on the front MC1 side button, and I keep pushing the button without intending to. Hope for a version where it's a bit more difficult to do it by accident.
click latency on the ULX is (iirc) 2nd fastest, only beaten by the Zaunkoenig M2K (which is wired)
How is the scroll wheel? I really hated the scroll wheel on the air58 and want to know if it has gotten better
im still hoping for Microsoft to make a wireless Pro Intellimouse and make it around 70 grams or so. i think that would be a hit even today
So wait. Wait for more reviews. 40gram mice I'm using the pulsar x2 v2 mini and even though I'm large hands I still want smaller and lighter
MZ1 🔛🔝
I have had the MZ1 by Xtrfy for about a year now and can't go back. I need you to make your design but using Carbon Fiber or Magnesium like finalmouse and this will be a godsent.
There's a lot to love about this mouse, especially the fact that they have an L size model (super important for my large hands). And i would have ordered it in on a release IF it had sidewalls for the main buttons. The open/overhang main button design does not work with my fingertip grip at all, and renders it unusable for me :(
This makes me wonder - are there any benefits to having this overhang/open (non-sidewalled) button style for any gripstyles? Why aren't sidewalls standard?
It lowers the weight, it really only comes into play if you hit your keyboard since it doesn’t effect grip, in which case most competitive gamers are using 60% keyboards anyway.
I think I would love the smaller one as I'm on a Viper Mini now but for $190 this is not the mouse for me.
2x ULX weighing 10g less than a G302 really shows how far the mouse industry has come.
Ive been using hyper x pulsfire haste for a few year after your review. Is it worth replacing for 1 around 50
I would really like to know your opinion about the Gwolves HSK PRO 4K.
It is the new RJN's top mice! Just WOW
Hello, could you review some of the $40 chinese gaming mice with 3395 sensor? I'm really curious on how they compare to branded ones.
what is your thoughts on vertical mouse ??
Solid shell MZ1w waiting room 💀
so heavy keyboards and light mouse are the thing now?
superlight, super cool, but, i cant use any of these mice as normal give me some crazy wrist pain. I'm stuck on my logi mx vertcial until some better options come along
It wouldn't be a finalmouse without mouse wheel issues.
Hey! I have a razer viper v2 pro and Im wondering if ULX would be a fit to me.. And if it is, what size should I use? Any recommandations? Btw, razer viper v2 pro fits me perfectly, but im looking for a leap in tech
M3k review when it comes out?
Hey there, great video. I just bought the Sora because of your review on it. I absolutely love the Zowie S2 shape, used it forever. Is there any wireless and lightweight mice on the market the are pretty identical to the S2 shape? Thank you.
I'll have a video for the Fantech Helios II soon, haven't compared it with the S2 yet but will do in the video, maybe wait for that...
@@RocketJumpNinja awesome, thank you!
my hands are 17.8 L and 10.2 W im a chode boy. any recommendations for my hand size? i enjoy both dav3 and v2p but they are not quite it. waiting on my final mouse to arrive...hopefully...kinda torn between the atlantis mini, outset AX or the HTX. thanks for your content!
I have 17.75 x 9.0 cm hands and I use a relaxed claw palm grip. Currently my main mouse is the HTX 4K Wireless but I’m looking for another lightweight mouse to try since this is getting old any suggestions?
My hands are 18.5x9, which version do you think I should go with? It’s on the edge of small and medium. I have a relaxed fingertip grip with two fingers on m1/m2. Fingers are at the wheel. Any input would be appreciated. Thx!
Jesus is back 💛
Do these have something similar to razor or Logitech like gshift or hypershift where you can map keybinds?
Hello RJN!
Hey, how are things?
question though, will these types of mice have complication on places that change weather all the time (like bright and sunny one day and rain/thunderstorms the next) or humid areas?
no. why would that cause any issues? have you had other mice that had issues cuz of the weather and humidity?
@@asd123465jkl yep. my G403 has gotten "pimples" i call them. the rubber sides have gotten bumps and i ignored them at first, but with more use they pop and some liquid comes out. it's been about a year since they came to be, and it's starting to double click from time to time. looking for another long-term mice
the hairs stuck on the adhesive at the back though lol
Xtrfy x Final Mouse Carbon MZ2+ when?
We need solid sides on the mz1. I love the mouse and feel like i aim best with it. However my pinky and thumb are lined up with the senser and my ring finger near the top. So bothe my pink wnd ring fall on the holes witch i dont like. I tried grips but most are to thick and changes the way the mouse feels. Only way i was able to fix this without changeing width was buy useing the ultra thin grips that came with the g pro superlight
Will you do SPRIME PM1 review?
Thorough review! Did you encounter any QC issues during your testing?
he already discussed the issues he had in the video
Isn't this roughly shaped like a Deathadder? Could be a replacement for it.
Hey RJninja, what's your cm/360 for quake?
Can I actually buy this one?
First off, thank you for the video.
Second, I don’t want to be that guy, but I feel like I should mention this every time I see it, and for everyone who might read this.
Final Mouse will NOT achieve their claim of continuous availability anytime soon.
While the reviewers may not intend any harm on their part by mentioning this goal, it’s still hype and dishonesty with FM’s marketing, and I’m going to call it out. If I’m wrong later, I’m wrong. As it stands though, they have not even delivered the keyboard they made such a big deal out of to their customers, and they are struggling to deliver each batch (AKA “DROP”) of the ULX on time. As far as I can tell, they’re still doing the same old things and having extreme issues with their delivery windows, but glossing it up with better marketing and reviewer coverage.
That all being said, I don’t hate FM and I plan to purchase the ULX from a friend who was able to buy them. I just believe there needs to be more transparency and less reliance on the whole “continuous availability” thing. This won’t happen for at least a year, if not more. In the meantime it will take you months to obtain one direct from FM at retail, AFTER you beat the bots, endure the shipping delays, and possibly QC issues. If you still want one, that’s alright; I just want you to know what you are signing up for.
Thank you for reading. If I’m wrong later, let me know.
What'd be the best possible mousepad for this? Was going to get artisian hiyate otsu red version