I’m just about finished up with this swap on my 2020 XP turbo. This is the only RUclips video I’ve ever seen on doing this swap, other than a few videos doing the swap on an RS1. Great info from Grim RZR in this video, but I would like to add a few things to it: For the rear, if you opt to keep the XP rear hub carriers like I did, the factory Turbo S lower radius rods WILL NOT work. I ended up buying a set of Assault Industries +4” rods for the XP and these seem to work. On the front, the upper arms will need some grinding on the back side of the bushing mounts to clear the factory frame rail. The bracket he cut out in the video and fabricated is extremely hard to weld properly because you can’t get the welder gun on the backside to weld completely. It was nerve racking cutting the tab. Also, the Turbo S shock mount sits 1” farther out from where the arm mounts to frame, so the XP shock will limit travel at full droop. I learned Turbo S front shocks are longer than XP shocks.
Keep em comin' man. Love this video and all the rest! I'm a modified KRX crawler, but I love all the content from different areas with climbs and mahem! I'm in for anything showing in the woods, fixin it after, or gettin ready before. Appreciate all the content!
Whew looks like a job.ha I remember when I owned a RZR I broke something every ride. Not busting on anyone but my krx is so far bullet proof.even though I no longer own a RZR I still watched entire video.good instructions
Assuming you had an xp1k, there’s a huge price difference between it and a krx. I find it hard to complain about the strength of things on the xp1k when they are the cheapest full size utv
It’s almost like you read my mind lol been thinking about the same thing and was wondering what I was going to run into. Awesome video thanks for sharing I appreciate ya! 💯👍🏻
Haven't seen the L&W stuff before. pretty sweet. I can see L&W billet radius rods and forward offset A arms with mega ball joints in my future. I'm surprised you were running stock tie rods. they're pretty weak, I've seen lots fail now.
@@ChrxmeYT I did reuse all turbo parts like knuckles bearings and brakes. At some point I would like to look into changing to Turbo S stuff even if it's just for the better brakes.
There will be some differences but I'm not sure what all they will be. I think you will need some different brake parts and drill larger radius rod holes
@@GrimRZR yea the brakes may be a problem since the turbo stuff is different but luckily I already have the m12 bolts in the radius plate they switched to those after 2016 I believe
Great video! Slowly gathering all the parts needed to execute. One question however, How’d you mount front upper and lower ball joints on the front hubs?
I've only ridden it once and can immediately tell the ride is more plush. What I wanted. For me I wish I would have done it a long time ago. Definitely worth it.
This video is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. So many people say it can’t be done. The only question I have is I still have my factory front XP diff and I’ve been told the splines are different from the Turbo S & RS1. So I’m thinking a factory front turbo S axle won’t work for me?
A 1000 has different splines. A turbo diff has the same splines as a turbo s. I think you can just replace the cups in a 1000 diff with turbo cups and make it work
Was it difficult to get the welder gun up into the backside of that tab? I’m getting ready to commit and cut off the tab just like you did. Hoping I can get up in there to weld it completely. Do u have any other close up pics of the tab you dabbed up
@@GrimRZR oh my bad ok great, real quick in your opinion is this worth doing to a xp1000 or spend the extra and get the turbo s? I have a xp4 1000 currently. Don't feel I really need more power but more stability would be great
Need to either change lower shock bung for a bigger bolt or weld on something to reduce to a smaller bolt. I just tightened up the smaller bolt in the big hole first
Did any of you guys doing this swap have issues with the toe in the rear. I’m in the process of doing the swap right now. I’m using the Assault Industries +4” radius rods from a Turbo XP. I got a measurement from a neighbors Turbo S factory lower radius rods and it was 28.75” center to center. I matched this for my lowers. When I got the lower and upper rods on it appears the hubs are tied out to much.
Not that I know of. Im not sure how much toe would be too much either. The toe changes throughout the suspension cycle also. Make sure to get measurements at ride height
So I finally started working on the front upper arms. I’m having a hard time cutting out that tab and I’m concerned I won’t be able to get my welder in there to weld up the back side. Looks like I need to move the tab at least 1/4” back. Is this about how much you had to move it? Also did you notice the lower shock mount on the Turbo S is spaced out 1” farther on the arm so you will lose some droop because the arms won’t droop as far as the factory ones
Good evening. So I assume I can just buy the turbo s cv's for all 4 corners with the turbo s arms do this mod and I'm good? This is my only snag. Need longer cv's attempting soon on my turbo xp.
In the process of doing my machine now. Did you come up with a solution for the front shocks yet? Wondering if we can get replacement bushings for the shocks to change them to accept 12mm bolts. Please let me know
I've been just riding it. After the holidays I will look back at it. I'm sure you could swap the hole end out on the shock or just weld some washers onto the a arms. My first thought was make adapter that serves as a bushing between the 10mm bolt and 12mm hole. A stepped washer
So I just finished up my swap. I did come up with a solution for the shocks. Polaris part# 5135275. They are a 12MM to 10MM stepped reducer. You’ll need 2 per arm. Worked out flawlessly and now can run the factory 10mm bolts that came off the shocks
I did on the front. I really didn't even look for a way to keep it since I have not run the front sway bar in forever. Not sure if you could keep it or not
What’s your take after riding in it a few months now? Have you rode an actual S and compared them? I want to do this mod bad to my Turbo XP. But my biggest fear is the different size shocks.
I love everything about the swap. Of course it would have been nice just to start with a turbo s but this was fairly easy and I'm happy the way it performs.
@@GrimRZR honestly, for the cost though. I see it as an easy and affordable option of getting the S in our regular turbo XP. Is it just the rear shocks that are longer or the front shocks too? Do the shock angles match up with what the turbo s would be?
@@justintroy9827 fronts work out okay. I'm running aftermarket tender springs and have cranked up the preload to get my ride height where I wanted. I would at least start with an inch to 1.5 inches
And its the same fit to xp1000 ? I ask because I already have a 4+ inch axles in front And 4+ inch toe rods and brake line So its will be just a arms swap with nothing else ?
I was wanting to do the opposite and take a turbo s and put xp parts to make it a 64" machine. I want a S but there are alot of trails by me that the 72" machine would not fit 😢🤣
Yes but there are some things that are different and I'm not 💯 what all they are. Rear brakes are different, would need to do something with front diff so axles would work
@@GrimRZR Didn't think about it, but I should have posted this with that comment. ruclips.net/video/Mx1akqUZH2M/видео.html ...wasn't meant to be rude, just funny!
@@jessehughes3741 I don't know if any of this will translate with a pro. Mine is just a turbo XP not a pro model. Pretty sure everything is different but I haven't tried it.
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I’m just about finished up with this swap on my 2020 XP turbo.
This is the only RUclips video I’ve ever seen on doing this swap, other than a few videos doing the swap on an RS1. Great info from Grim RZR in this video, but I would like to add a few things to it:
For the rear, if you opt to keep the XP rear hub carriers like I did, the factory Turbo S lower radius rods WILL NOT work. I ended up buying a set of Assault Industries +4” rods for the XP and these seem to work.
On the front, the upper arms will need some grinding on the back side of the bushing mounts to clear the factory frame rail. The bracket he cut out in the video and fabricated is extremely hard to weld properly because you can’t get the welder gun on the backside to weld completely. It was nerve racking cutting the tab.
Also, the Turbo S shock mount sits 1” farther out from where the arm mounts to frame, so the XP shock will limit travel at full droop. I learned Turbo S front shocks are longer than XP shocks.
Appreciate the info
Keep em comin' man. Love this video and all the rest! I'm a modified KRX crawler, but I love all the content from different areas with climbs and mahem! I'm in for anything showing in the woods, fixin it after, or gettin ready before. Appreciate all the content!
Thank you. The video that just came out has 3 nice KRX rigs that run 35's and they do awesome
Nice video Johnny, very informative for those wanting to try it.
Thank you. Super easy
Whew looks like a job.ha I remember when I owned a RZR I broke something every ride. Not busting on anyone but my krx is so far bullet proof.even though I no longer own a RZR I still watched entire video.good instructions
Thank you. It really wasn't that bad.
Assuming you had an xp1k, there’s a huge price difference between it and a krx. I find it hard to complain about the strength of things on the xp1k when they are the cheapest full size utv
@@mccatdaddy they are all fun to ride
Yes! My Turbo 4 will be getting the same treatment.
Well worth it. Let me know if I can help
It’s almost like you read my mind lol been thinking about the same thing and was wondering what I was going to run into. Awesome video thanks for sharing I appreciate ya! 💯👍🏻
If you run into any questions feel free to ask. Really happy with how it performs so far
Thank you sir I appreciate it!!
Best video you have made. Love this type of video
Thank you. Hopefully it helps a few people
Good information! Love seeing stuff like this!
Its been great so far too. Wish I would have done it a long time ago
Love the video great info I been looking for just 1 ? I have a 2019 xp 4 turbo what year parts should I look for, thank you for any info you can give.
I think all of the Turbo s parts are the same as far as suspension.
Haven't seen the L&W stuff before. pretty sweet. I can see L&W billet radius rods and forward offset A arms with mega ball joints in my future. I'm surprised you were running stock tie rods. they're pretty weak, I've seen lots fail now.
L&W make great stuff. Good people over there. If you talk to them tell them you seen them in one of my videos.
Great video, I'm looking to do the same to my Turbo. Can't wait for the parts list
I added it to the description. Feel free to ask any questions. Hopefully I can help
@@GrimRZR thank you, were you able to reuse all of your axles and bearings and such? thank you
@@ChrxmeYT bearings yes. Need to get turbo s axles
@@GrimRZR did you reuse the turbo front knuckles? if so was that to save a few bucks? thx
@@ChrxmeYT I did reuse all turbo parts like knuckles bearings and brakes. At some point I would like to look into changing to Turbo S stuff even if it's just for the better brakes.
About to do this to 1000xp thanks for sharing the info about it!
There will be some differences but I'm not sure what all they will be. I think you will need some different brake parts and drill larger radius rod holes
@@GrimRZR yea the brakes may be a problem since the turbo stuff is different but luckily I already have the m12 bolts in the radius plate they switched to those after 2016 I believe
@@infabprojects learning as I went and waiting for parts was the hardest part. If you could get everything ahead of time this is an easy job
@@GrimRZR seems pretty straight forward and I already screenshot your parts list lol excited to get started on it!
@@infabprojects glad it's helping. If you run into any issues feel free to ask. Maybe I can help
That's sweet! Will you have an update video?
Yes. What would you like to see
Great video! Slowly gathering all the parts needed to execute. One question however, How’d you mount front upper and lower ball joints on the front hubs?
Same as before. I used my turbo front knuckles
Great video did you use the oem turbo s axle?
OEM length
I’m going to start the conversation on my 17 turbo next week. Did you used turbo s axles or what axles did you end up using?
@@joegomez3097 turbo s axles
I guess my question would be, is it worth it? How much difference is there in ride and stability???
I've only ridden it once and can immediately tell the ride is more plush. What I wanted. For me I wish I would have done it a long time ago. Definitely worth it.
This video is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. So many people say it can’t be done. The only question I have is I still have my factory front XP diff and I’ve been told the splines are different from the Turbo S & RS1. So I’m thinking a factory front turbo S axle won’t work for me?
A 1000 has different splines. A turbo diff has the same splines as a turbo s. I think you can just replace the cups in a 1000 diff with turbo cups and make it work
Does the front sway bar tabs from the turbo s front arms line up with the xp turbo sway bar?
@@deslboy05dd I don't know. Took my front sway bar off long ago.
Was it difficult to get the welder gun up into the backside of that tab? I’m getting ready to commit and cut off the tab just like you did. Hoping I can get up in there to weld it completely. Do u have any other close up pics of the tab you dabbed up
@@deslboy05dd it wasn't great but not terrible to get up in there
Is there anything you would have done differently now? Im about to start on this project now
I have since changed to some high clearance trailing arms. That's about it
Awesome video!
Thank you. So far it's been well worth the work
Awesome video, only thing left is price? Even a round number would be great 😊 thanks!
I put what I spent in the description
@@GrimRZR oh my bad ok great, real quick in your opinion is this worth doing to a xp1000 or spend the extra and get the turbo s? I have a xp4 1000 currently. Don't feel I really need more power but more stability would be great
@@smallgaragebigdreams6032 I wish I would have gotten a turbo s from the start.
Where did you find all your oem turbo s parts? Like the a arms and trailing arms.
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Did you have to do anything to the front top shock mount ?
Need to either change lower shock bung for a bigger bolt or weld on something to reduce to a smaller bolt. I just tightened up the smaller bolt in the big hole first
A man will go through a ton of trouble for an extra 4inch's 😉
I wish it was this easy
Did any of you guys doing this swap have issues with the toe in the rear. I’m in the process of doing the swap right now. I’m using the Assault Industries +4” radius rods from a Turbo XP. I got a measurement from a neighbors Turbo S factory lower radius rods and it was 28.75” center to center. I matched this for my lowers. When I got the lower and upper rods on it appears the hubs are tied out to much.
Not that I know of. Im not sure how much toe would be too much either. The toe changes throughout the suspension cycle also. Make sure to get measurements at ride height
So I finally started working on the front upper arms. I’m having a hard time cutting out that tab and I’m concerned I won’t be able to get my welder in there to weld up the back side. Looks like I need to move the tab at least 1/4” back. Is this about how much you had to move it? Also did you notice the lower shock mount on the Turbo S is spaced out 1” farther on the arm so you will lose some droop because the arms won’t droop as far as the factory ones
@@deslboy05dd it's not great getting the welder up in there but I made it work. Haven't had any issues with the shocks
Good evening. So I assume I can just buy the turbo s cv's for all 4 corners with the turbo s arms do this mod and I'm good? This is my only snag. Need longer cv's attempting soon on my turbo xp.
Turbo s axles work for this.
In the process of doing my machine now. Did you come up with a solution for the front shocks yet? Wondering if we can get replacement bushings for the shocks to change them to accept 12mm bolts. Please let me know
I've been just riding it. After the holidays I will look back at it. I'm sure you could swap the hole end out on the shock or just weld some washers onto the a arms. My first thought was make adapter that serves as a bushing between the 10mm bolt and 12mm hole. A stepped washer
So I just finished up my swap. I did come up with a solution for the shocks. Polaris part# 5135275. They are a 12MM to 10MM stepped reducer. You’ll need 2 per arm. Worked out flawlessly and now can run the factory 10mm bolts that came off the shocks
@@tayloredman6615 thank you for the info. I've been busy on other projects but that sounds perfect
Quick question, where did you find all these. Did you buy as a kit or pieced it out?
Pieces. Not a kit
Looks like you cut off the mount for swaybar bracket? Can it be retained?
I did on the front. I really didn't even look for a way to keep it since I have not run the front sway bar in forever. Not sure if you could keep it or not
For me I like the plush ride and don't hit many highspeed curves
How much money for all the parts?
I’m trying to see if I’m better off buying the turbo s
I would buy a turbo s if you didn't have a machine. It has other advantages too.
What’s your take after riding in it a few months now? Have you rode an actual S and compared them? I want to do this mod bad to my Turbo XP. But my biggest fear is the different size shocks.
I haven't rode much in a turbo s. For me the suspension is nice and plush. Just what I wanted
I love everything about the swap. Of course it would have been nice just to start with a turbo s but this was fairly easy and I'm happy the way it performs.
@@GrimRZR honestly, for the cost though. I see it as an easy and affordable option of getting the S in our regular turbo XP. Is it just the rear shocks that are longer or the front shocks too? Do the shock angles match up with what the turbo s would be?
@@justintroy9827 fronts work out okay. I'm running aftermarket tender springs and have cranked up the preload to get my ride height where I wanted. I would at least start with an inch to 1.5 inches
@@GrimRZR I’m running the shock therapy kit on mine as well. I’m going to try to research it a little more.
where did you get your limit straps and hardware for the rear?
Bought the limit strap from a shop down the street and just found some bolts that I had.
Did you run with stock spindles?
The ball joint is directly fit ?
Yes I did
And its the same fit to xp1000 ?
I ask because I already have a 4+ inch axles in front
And 4+ inch toe rods and brake line
So its will be just a arms swap with nothing else ?
@@עדןוקנין-ש5פ I'm really not sure.
I was wanting to do the opposite and take a turbo s and put xp parts to make it a 64" machine. I want a S but there are alot of trails by me that the 72" machine would not fit 😢🤣
You would probably be better getting a pro XP. They offer the active suspension in a 64 wide machine.
@@GrimRZR I have been looking at them, but I really don't like the way they look🤣. I also like the more upright seating in the xp
@@montanamav8941 I can totally agree. It would just be a ton easier
What was the total price for everything?
I will add it up. I meant to put that in the description
I added it to the description along with the parts list I forgot. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
what about the axles? do the turbo S works ?
Yes I'm using axles for a turbo s
Would this work on my rzr 1000 non turbo?
Yes but there are some things that are different and I'm not 💯 what all they are. Rear brakes are different, would need to do something with front diff so axles would work
The total cost to do the turbo s swap ?
I put everything in the description. I think i had around $1400
@@GrimRZR did you buy the stuff second hand or from the polaris shop?
@@salemmohammed4269 most used
How much did it cost you
I put a parts list in the description. Around $1400
If I have +4 inches on the front CVS will that work with turbo s arms ?
I'm not positive. It should but I would hate to say without knowing.
@@GrimRZR I have an xp turbo and have all the parts from turbo s. If I just change the inner cv and put it on turbo s outer cv will they fit
@@cautionontherun30 if you have a turbo the inner cv and outer cv are the same as a turbo s. Is that what you mean? The diff splines are the same
@@GrimRZR the inner cv of the turbo s is thicker and don't fit through turbo xp diff carrier
@@GrimRZR so I was thimk8ng to take the turbo s apart and use inner turbo cv from turbo xp and use the outer cv from turbo s cause it's longer
All those extra mods and still factory muffler and header…lol.
Thats right. I haven't ever heard anyone say "If I had a different muffler I would have climbed that." LOL
@@GrimRZR adds a bit of horsepower, and there is no substitute for horsepower and torque
@@TrainWreck000 for sure. Very few times if any have I needed more power to climb anything. I stay off those bounty hills that I need to hit that hard
@@GrimRZR lol…me too
Canned Ham Quality
It's getting there
Did you say "canned ham"!?! Those things are the Nickel Back of side by sides. lol (love that video)
@@michaelhallyall8971 say it louder for the folks in the back
@@GrimRZR Didn't think about it, but I should have posted this with that comment. ruclips.net/video/Mx1akqUZH2M/видео.html ...wasn't meant to be rude, just funny!
@@michaelhallyall8971 he is hilarious
Will this work with dynamix shocks ?
I'm not sure. Which model are you running that has dynamix shocks on a xp
2022 pro xp dynamix
@@jessehughes3741 I don't know if any of this will translate with a pro. Mine is just a turbo XP not a pro model. Pretty sure everything is different but I haven't tried it.
I think the hubs are different also. Pro models need to use different hubs to use turbo s axles even after installing long travel kits