How To Hit On The Rise In Tennis - Djokovic Tactic - Tennis Groundstroke Lesson
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How To Hit On The Rise In Tennis - Djokovic Tactic - Tennis Groundstroke Lesson. When you play tennis there are two main ways to hit a winner from the baseline:
1. Hit aggressive with lots of power and aim for the lines from further back in the court
2. Hit on the rise and take time away from the opponent.
When you use option one you will make more unforced errors as the risks are higher so the tactic is going to work but not consistently well. On the flip side when you hit the ball on the rise which means you hit the ball while it's rising up after the bounce before it starts dropping, you don't need to hit the ball so hard and close to the lines as you will take time away from the opponent by reducing the time between shots that they have to recover into a good court position.
Here are the three main advantages of hitting your tennis forehand and tennis backhand on the rise:
1. You will maintain a good court position closer to the baseline which will help you reduce the amount of court you have to cover. If you play from ten feet behind the baseline you will have to cover much more ground that if you are playing two feet behind the baseline. Maintaining an aggressive court position will also open up the angles we can use on the opponents side of the court. The closer we are to the net, the more acute angles we can use, the further back we stand the harder it becomes to hit angles.
2. When we allow the ball to reach the peak and then start dropping, the height at which we make contact with the ball will tend to be below the net level, this will force us to hit with more topspin and a higher net clearance to avoind hitting the ball into the net. This makes our ball slow down and less aggressive. When we hit the ball on the rise, especially if we hit the ball close to or at the peak, we can flatten out the shots and be more aggressive.
3. We're taking time away from the opponent which will force them to hit more unforced errors and be out of position more often. If we play from ten feet behind the baseline we give our opponents all the time they need to recover into a good court position before we make contact. By taking the ball early we reduce the time our opponent has to recover greatly and this will open up space that we can exploit.
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Tremendous video. This is the adjustment Fed made in 2017 when he played against Nadal particularly on that backhand side. Stroke mechanics have a lot to do with this as well. Guys with bigger strokes need to stay back as opposed to players with more compact strokes.
100% right that's why I mention the change of swing, reducing your normal swing by 50% in order to time the ball when hitting on the rise.
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Simon
I trained with Agassi in 1985 when I was one of nick’s protégés too and we practiced standing inside the baseline a lot. It really needs time and practice and then it becomes more normal. I hit harder than Andre back then and I remember fondly those wonderful but extremely hard times at the academy. So very proud of Andre’s achievements. He became a legend through HARD WORK
Amazing. What a great way to improve in the game. Was Andre taught his unique ball striking by Nick or had his father already showed him the extended follow through and staying on the ball for longer?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I don’t know what his father had taught him but Nick would stand behind me when I hit against Arias, Krickstein, and the other protégés (Andre, courier, Wheaton, Blackman) and would tell me to hit harder and harder. He would tell me to destroy them with my forehand which I did routinely. Nick would study my forehand return of serve and videotaped my various forehand shots and would tell the others to attack the ball like I do. At that time, Andre looked up to me big time as I was 20 and he was like 15 and I had that hair that he copied a few years later. I was the cool guy there and all the girls liked me. I was the rebel who snuck out and nick would scare me and say he’s gonna kick me out…basically nick tried to teach them all, including Haas my forehand but no one could do it. I hit much flatter and somehow add slice and topspin all at once. Nick always said I had the hardest forehand he’d ever seen. I’ve got so many stories about my short time there…and how Andre looked up to me as his big cool brother and I know how much I influenced him…even when it came to his two marriages and hair styles! Yup…I dated Brooke shields before I went there and Andre loved that I was so cool and it had to happen that he went after her…and then I told him about steffi after his divorce or so and how actually beautiful she is in person. I was totally shocked when he married her too…oh the stories I could tell. But yes: nick was simply the best coach ever and he knew exactly how to create champions. And the others got crushed by not being able to be a champion. Luckily I quit that summer and never really played again until 6 months ago. I’m still hitting harder than anyone out there. I just played some futures to see how I’d do. I’ve a long way to go. But I’d love to tell you all about Andre and nick and what it was like. And why I quit. Maybe a zoom interview if you’re interested. Lastly, I’m extremely proud of Andre. He had almost no game in early 1985. All looping strokes and no serve, volley, or slice. Then he tried to learn my forehand with nick (and even changed more to my semi western grip) but he couldn’t do it. His racket head was too big. I played at 72 pounds strung the adidas Gtx pro Lendl racket. I wish nick or Andre would have given me some credit for how I changed the forehand for all his protégés. Ok. Cheers!
@@GrungePopRecords bro is capping so hard
another great one, I have a habit of moving back to much on the forehand and practicing this hitting on the rise while moving forwards is helping my overall forehand mentality. To try and hit on the rise more so I have to move forwards and neutral where possible
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Simon
Thanks man, that is a really good video. I prefer being agressive and getting the ball on the rise, even if it means more mistakes in the beggining i think it is worthy long term.
That's a good mindset to have.
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Amazing Simon! I'm on the rise and all about it! Very well explained! Thank you!
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Love it!
Here in California on Dec 1- a little rain but got out on the courts yesterday!
Great to hear.
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Im over 70 and i do this regularly, the opp NEVER expects it! i usually score on it also! I run two doubles teams and can still hit aces, overhead slams, drop shots, bouncebacks, etc. I bring my bluetooth speaker to the courts and play snappy salsa music while we play. Everyone loves it!!
Awesome 🙌 it’s a great strategy
Very interesting video with a lot to take in. To me the most important thing you said is taking time away from you opponent as that will put you on the offensive. Thanks!
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Great explanation. Lots of players don't understand advantage and disadvantage of hitting on the rise. Thanks.
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Simon, excellent! I have never once considered going for the ball on the rise and your explanation is right on target. Adding this to my arsenal will hopefully improve my game. Thanks.
Awesome 👏
Had an awesome trainingsession after seeing this video, much appreciated! Been playing for quite a few years now, but can't seem to improve. Always had difficulty returning balls with high net clearance, as I had to go far behind the baseline to hit it when it dips down. I lost so much time compared to the opponent, so this helped me greatly! Always felt like I had to go really hard + topspin on those balls, so lead to a lot of unforced errors from far behind the baseline. Worked wonderfully today, being able to get the pressure back on the opponent. Might seem simple, but helped me at least. Thanks! :)
Awesome, happy to hear.
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I do the same thing. I let the ball rise too much especially in the middle of the court if the balls hit short and I'm hitting the ball at the peak which is well above the net and I always hit long. I guess this just means that I'm not getting into position quick enough to hit the ball on the rise versus at the peak or decline. Perhaps if I focus heavily on hitting the ball on the rise it will force my feet to be in proper position?
Everything you say is true and accurate. Sadly we all have a dominant eye so we’ll always have better luck on its side when hitting the ball on the rise. Being right handed and having a right dominant eye for me hitting on the rise is much easier and smoother on backhand’s side. Keep up the great work
That technique is perfect!
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Simon
Amazing video, needed help with my timing for this, thank you sooooo much. Also thanks for every video being the best quality possible (video quality and helpful quality)
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it's so important to know when to go for it, like after the opponent changes direction or after pulling them wide. you often don't have to hit that great of an on the rise ball for it to be effective. in fact, i usually use it as the ball to go to net after
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Great information and useful for beating a pusher by maintaining position and taking their time away
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This is wonderful teaching
I'm glad you like it
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Simon
Taking the ball on the rise: you also need to hit through the ball more as the vertical motion would make it difficult to time the shot.
Exactly, I cover this at the 3:20 mark in the video
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Do you also turn the racquet face slightly more closed than a normal stroke? I've noticed that Fed seems to have the racquet closed at impact when punching a ball on the rise, but not when he is rallying or hitting a safe top spin shot on a ball in front of him. Is that just an illusion? Or is he closing the face because the ball is on the rise?
The racket angle will help for sure. The closing of the strings will allow him to cushion the ball more with spin without getting under the ball level and brushing up. A string bed that is flat towards the net will result in the ball flying off the racket much flatter than a slightly closed string bed.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial At the level that I am closing the racquet face even if by a small amount introduces another element of uncertainty than keeping the exact same angle of the racquet for all forehands. I therefore try to keep the racquet angle constant and mostly hit through the ball if taking it on the rise. I've also noticed that if I keep my racquet path similar to a sidearm throw I get better results. Can you please try this out and provide your take on this?
IDK what grumblers like Roberto Leoni Jr. & Alex Fortuna are whining about. This vid is very practical & succinct. In 10 minutes Simon covers the strategy, the tactics & the methods for hitting on the rise, with some historical references / models to boot. Try beating that. Or take a private lesson & pay, what, $50 to $100+ while eating up an hour of your time. GL.
Thank you for the support Kevin.
Like I said to one of the guys, you can't please everyone.
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Thank YOU. Keep 'em coming.
finally a new vid!
We released a few videos this week but I'm guessing you mean a new coaching video.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial yup caught up to date with those. just always looking forward to the content and tutoring!
Excellent
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solid!
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Simon
excellent technical points and teaching. Thanks a lot. Gave me motivation to practice this shot.
Vamos 💪
I liked the video. ☺️
nice video!
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Simon
By moving near or inside the baseline you open up wider angles so you can move your opponent off the court a create opportunity to be in a position to follow up and win the point. I will add that it very important to hit your shots deep. I was coached to hit within three feet of the baseline on my ground strokes. It is more effective to hit at three quarter pace and have the ball land near the baseline consistently than hit a full pace and land mid court. I love to play those guys that let me use their pace and stand near the base line and move forward and control the point.
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Please advise, which grip suit the most to hit on the rise.
thank you!!!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial - WOW thank you for the personal reply! Yes, I just picked up two-hand backhand and find it hard to hit HIGH balls. Could you please teach how to hit a high ball using two-handed backhand? Thank you!
@@jh276 He won't reply. He only replies once. Even I got the same message you got.
Also give us mental mindset tips thx ✨😁
Very practical advise. However I see in the beginning of the clip, with forehand you don't shift weight from your back leg to front leg. Can we do that ?
Yes absolutely, sometimes the ball requires an open or semi open stance.
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good. :)
Thanks for the video! My question is how to you play against someone who takes every ball very early - many are half volleys. He is a very solid 5.0 player. I feel rushed. If I hit deep, he takes it out of the air or half volleys it away from me. If I hit heavy topspin, he takes it before it gets too high. Any strategy suggestions?
Great video. And I think there’s another benefit of taking it on the rise (which I believe is why Djokovic is taking it earlier than he probably had before) is to conserve energy
100%
Great Simon! Thanks for the tips. I have two questions.
1-If my opponent puts heavy top spin then the ball will bounce high enough that I "feel" that I need to step back a bit, in this case is it better to take on the ball earlier?
2- Can you please do a video to explain how to perform the side spin "aka banana shot"?
In the case of heavy topspin with high net clearance, you can try to hit it very early or you'll have to move back unless you're very strong to hit very high balls with good power and control.
I'll do my best on the second question.
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Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons appreciate your response. Sometimes I feel that if I take very high balls, (especially on the backhand side using two handed bh) I’ll lose my balance.
Please invite an alumni that has medium lv (3.5-4.0) and teach him on camera how to do it, make him do it, record the mistake, show the mistake and the solution, then repeat as many times a needed until he gets it, that would be superb!
We have some content on the way with some students.
However it's something we would like to do more of in 2019.
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Simon
Do you have any tips for hitting on the rise on clay? It's hard for me because of the more vertical bounce, and trying to hit through it more results in me hitting long because I'm not adding enough topspin. The unpredictable bounce on clay also makes it harder.
Taking the ball early on clay is risky.
Even Djokovic struggles when the conditions are bad. If the court is well maintained and swept then it makes it easier.
We were just in Malta on the clay for a week and taking the ball early was super tough so I opted to go back and give myself some time.
Good footwork and great focus will help you though.
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Simon
5:11, 7:07 nice forehands!
Thanks
we need some videos of the open stanced single handed backhand!! We see it in thiem, federer 2017, wawrinka, gasquet, mark phillipousis!!
@@chtomlin you have no idea what you're saying lol
Hi, Simon. Excellent topic and explanation, as usual.
Do you recommend this technique to juniors as well? (12 and under kids)
I am asking this because sometimes I am not sure what to recommend to my 9 year old son (hitting on the rise or step back...).
Thank you for your help!
It’s definitely a good skill for juniors to work on, good players can move back or move in 👍
Thank you for your answer! All the best.
Simon, what grip do you use? I'm asking because even though I saw your grip video where you recommend the semi western when at look at yours it seems more like an extreme eastern grip. I'm just curious, because mine is an eastern... thanks!
Well spotted, yes I use an eastern forehand grip.
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Thanks for all the work Simon. When you gonna finish this prototype? hahaha
The prototype is on hold for now, we have just started doing some reviews for a company based here in the UK.
The first video should be up next week.
The all white frame is still my go to for filming as it looks cool on camera.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial nice work hahahaha
just wondering. but what white racket are you using/holding in this video
The all white frame is a prototype.
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I want to know the punishing the serve in tennis.
To punish the serve move up and take the ball early. Common error is players take a bigger back swing but don't move up. Do the opposite, keep the back swing shorter but take the ball as early as you can.
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Simon, I have a question, does hitting on the rise mean I never move back from the baseline? Some coaches ever said I lacked the movement back and forward. When the coming ball is very deep, I usually make a shot like a half volley, which is usually weak and often miss. Thanks
Hitting on the rise means that you hit the ball while it's rising off the bounce. That can be anywhere on the court. The ball bounces then starts rising, hits a peak and then starts dropping. If you hit the ball while it's rising, that's hitting on the rise.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Simon, thanks for your reply. You are one of the several best coaches on the internet, I started to watch your online lesson from 2015. In fact, you appear very often in the Chine's wechat public account that about tennis coaching. I'm watching your videos for my 14-year son, who is one of the top junior Chinese tennis players under 14. Do you provide the service of video analysis?
Yes, video analysis is one of the major things we're working on right now and want to launch soon. Stay tuned for more details
How does it work hitting the ball on the rise with one hand backhand?
Same principles apply. As you have only the one hand it is tougher and requires more strength in the arm.
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Excellent. Now I’ll go out and try and do it.
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when my opponent hits a shot to the baseline, I try to take it as half volley. Is it right.
sorry I don't know English perfectly
Sometimes it's a good option but on some balls you simply need to move back and give yourself time.
It all depends on the shot.
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Watch old McEnroe videos. Literally most of his ground strokes were like half volleys taking the ball on the rise with a continental grip on both the forehand and backhand with short back swings and short follow-through which is why his actual half volleys and full volleys were the best ever...by anyone.
Don’t forget about McEnroe who was taking the ball early while Agassi was still in Junior High.
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Thanks Simon, this is exactly what I needed!
I play like Nadal: I stand behind the baseline and hit heavy topspin on every shot. I get everything back and I can pull the opponent off the court with angles but I don’t have Nadal’s racquet head speed to hit winners off the next shot. I think this video was the key to finishing my points.
However, I’m so used to hitting heavy spin that I don’t know how to flatten out my shot (I have a SW grip so I should be able to). Could you please do a video on the technical adjustments you have to make to flatten out a shot and also in which situations it is appropriate to do so?
Thank you in advance from your #1 fan
We'll keep that in mind for future videos.
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One quick tip: just change the angle of the racquet face at contact.
Personally, I tend to stop the rotation of my forearm whenever I flatten out the ball (make sure the strings arent touching my shoulder, but the frame) I make sure my arm is going even with my chest, instead of rising above.
What is your white tennis racket?
It's a prototype frame.
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Wow it’s so very very nice
Wich racquet does Simon use?
Currently use the Dunlop CX 200 tour frame.
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@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Lesson about strings choice and its effect on strokes.
You all have your own merch? Wish I had a credit card to buy, otherwise would’ve bought a while ago... sorry
Haha yes we just launched a few items last week.
Many more designs and plans are in the pipeline.
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Do u have any tips on topspin I've been trying this for 5 years and I'm still struggling with topspin
The key to good topspin is to brush up the ball. Get your coach or hitting partner to just drop feed you hip height balls and you just focus on brushing the back of the ball.
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Don’t you get more power from taking it early as well?
Taking the ball early will allow you to redirect and use the power from the opponents shot much more than if you move back and let the ball slow down.
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Simon
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons thank you! Also, on your forehand how perpendicular should your shoulders be before you uncool, and is it almost like a slingshot, or more gradual?
Depends on where your target. For a crosscourt shot the shoulders will open up earlier, for a down the line they'll open later. The best forehands tend to have the right shoulder come through quickly.
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons thank you, I’ve been having a lot of trouble with releasing my shoulders, so I was wondering if I had the theory wrong.
Common Dirtbagz yes its called counter punching
hes right i smash people 6-0 all the time in the park. he missed the part of its very hard to do.
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I demonstrate in my videos perfectly.
Ty
Your videos are fish?
1.4k likes and only 24 dislikes, keep it up dude!!
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Could you please teach us how to hit an effective 2nd serve? Thank you!
That's how Djoke beats nadal, no one other times it as well on the rise
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djokovic can do this with a full swing
Djokovic's full swing is still more compact than many players
Federer does it all the time… he hits it super early that’s how he won so many times against nadal lol
Awoseme...
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Please more practical examples,...be shorter on the talks
You can't please everyone Roberto. If I do more examples and don't break it down, many players complain that they don't understand. If examples is all you want, there are 1000s of matches available to watch online. That would suit you better.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thanks for your prompt response. I understand your point. My idea was to give a simples suggestion. Thanks again for the information.
Thanks for the suggestions but this is a coaching platform, not a highlight reel.
We want to go into great depth in our videos, not just skim the surface.
Many other online guys you can watch who don't have our experience and knowledge of the game.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Love your coaching style and your honesty and openness about your own experience. You are more relatable than any other coach which is encouraging in itself.
I think one frustration I have with hitting on the rise is its a chicken/egg problem for 4.5 players like myself. Hitting on the rise effectively requires a learning curve in which you get your timing down, but in order to get your timing down at higher levels of play, you need to practice with guys who hit clean, deep shots with pace. I often find myself struggling to time junk balls from 4.0 players as I work on taking the ball on the rise. I eventually get it down but then my timing is off for higher level players who hit cleanly but with more spin and pace. This timing issue and constant adjustment is killer because there doesn't seem to be a good training fix.
If you could ever discuss training strategies for players who don't play tennis full time and/or don't have constant access to high level hitting partners, I bet people would love it. I know I would.
It's nice to dream of being a kid again but for us adults, reality sets in that we have to work tennis around life. That said...as I've gotten older, I've also gotten much stronger and better. I'm guessing I'm not alone.
Thanks again for all the great videos!
@JD G thanks for the support. Much appreciated.
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Fairly uninformative this time, Simon. Hope to have another video from you on the topic. Peace.
You can bring the horse to water but. . .
What exactly was missing IYO?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I wonder if he gave up halfway. The second half is golden... The first half, however, just kind of reminds everyone who can't hit well on the rise that they have work to do (we all want to take the ball early but timing comes with practice and top players who hit deep with pace are not the norm). If you just jumped to the "how to" this video would be great and I bet Alex would agree.
If he bailed out at half time then he shouldn't be whining.
If you can't watch a 10 minute video, how can you expect to imrpove your game?
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Please don’t listen and please don’t take away the explanations. I love TTT BECAUSE of them. I think it is very important not only to know how to do something but also understand why it helps your game even at the pro level.
The fact that TTT continues to grow as a channel shows that many people like the format of your videos. In my opinion, TTT is the best at explaining high level concepts in a clear, concise manner. There are many other channels for those who are not interested in understanding the game and just want superficial instructions.
Please don’t let them discourage you!
@Kevin Law - Thank you for the support.
We read all comments, I try to respond to every single one and in doing so I see what people like and dislike.
The vast majority of our popular videos are in depth and longer in length, so now we tend to stick to that format.
80-90% of our students prefer that format.
We'll keep doing what people enjoy, guys that whine can go and enjoy some of the other channels on RUclips.
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