2017 Chevrolet Cruze LT Hatchback: Regular Car Reviews

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @RegularCars
    @RegularCars  Месяц назад +792

    Whoops, I uploaded this video while in Melbourne, VIC, Australia. I Set it to release on Monday, but I forgot that Australia time is in THE FUTURE

    • @zenith251
      @zenith251 Месяц назад +37

      Hello from the past!

    • @WorthlessGeek
      @WorthlessGeek Месяц назад +22

      I CAN SEE THE FUTURE

    • @Beefy01
      @Beefy01 Месяц назад +5

      Lol

    • @NoodlesExtraMSG
      @NoodlesExtraMSG Месяц назад +6

      did you and a toilet that curves and makes BROWN go backwards.

    • @radudeATL
      @radudeATL Месяц назад +2

      Ah-mahhhh-zing.

  • @dforrest4503
    @dforrest4503 Месяц назад +192

    GM economy cars - the art of having everything go wrong at the same time to save you on labor costs.

  • @weekdayperformance7977
    @weekdayperformance7977 Месяц назад +398

    Ngl I got scared and thought I missed work today. A very welcome suprise on my Sunday

    • @bobhill3941
      @bobhill3941 Месяц назад +4

      It's always a welcome suprise on Monday morning, but RCR on Sunday is a welcome shock❤😊

    • @STEREODVST
      @STEREODVST Месяц назад +1

      Same, i had to check my clocks to make sure i wasn't going crazy lol

    • @timb6755
      @timb6755 Месяц назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +2

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana Месяц назад +150

    The 1.4 chevy turbo motor may be bad with a manual and better with an auto, but Roman, drive the CVT equipped 2020 Malibu with the same motor and you will be begging for the craptastic manual. The hesitation of the turbo mixed with the hesitation of the torque converter and the hesitation of the CVT to make hesitation cubed.

    • @MrGhislain79
      @MrGhislain79 Месяц назад +5

      The Malibu has the 1.5T, the Cruze is a 1.4T

    • @imitt12
      @imitt12 Месяц назад +1

      I've never driven a manual, but with how mediocre the 1.4t is with an auto, I dread how much worse a stick would be.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +2

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @alphatripduce
      @alphatripduce Месяц назад +1

      I was going to mention the ungodly terrible CVT that you got in this as the Auto option

    • @Oddman1980
      @Oddman1980 Месяц назад +1

      Can confirm, had a 2020 Malibu as a rental and it was terrible.

  • @YetAnotherGeorgeth
    @YetAnotherGeorgeth Месяц назад +472

    Wait...it's not Monday!

  • @tylery7881
    @tylery7881 Месяц назад +208

    Chevy Cruze Hatch: Someone told you as a joke that this was better than a Corolla, and you believed them.

    • @troysanchez776
      @troysanchez776 Месяц назад +13

      The base Corolla has awful seats, you might believe it.

    • @40040
      @40040 Месяц назад +13

      I have a 2016 cruze manual and It's much more quiet and composed on the highway than a corolla. It drives like a full size sedan. Not to mention I can go 3-4 hours without my back/ass/legs getting sore. Long term reliability is far better than the 1st gen cruze as well so it's really a competitive option in my opinion.

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@40040Hmm...to each their own. In my opinion to be clear, it's unreliable, uncomfortable, boring to drive. But not boring like how a Corolla can be, no that's boring like how death and taxes are consistent.

    • @vadim6385
      @vadim6385 Месяц назад +6

      2017 Corolla was crap. Reliable yes, but I got back and neck pains after like 30 mins of driving it

    • @hhs_leviathan
      @hhs_leviathan Месяц назад

      For the money, if used, absolutely.

  • @Denny759
    @Denny759 Месяц назад +327

    The build sheet said 200 HP as long as I don't use the radio 🤣

    • @Shiruvan
      @Shiruvan Месяц назад +16

      The radio eats 10 horsepower

    • @eurosonly
      @eurosonly Месяц назад +7

      If you use up all of your windshield fluid, it'll lighten the car and give you better mpg.
      Taps head.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +3

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @AdamG1983
      @AdamG1983 Месяц назад

      If that has 200hp I'll eat my hat

    • @vadim6385
      @vadim6385 Месяц назад +1

      I guess A/C is out of the question.

  • @elGamiReal
    @elGamiReal Месяц назад +155

    My ex had one of these, he was oblivious to its issues and the brakes failed randomly and he rear ended a ford escape on the highway. He now has a Corolla

    • @jg7041
      @jg7041 Месяц назад +18

      He got a Corolla. You got a new BF.

    • @Skarlet_Overdrive
      @Skarlet_Overdrive Месяц назад +9

      Did he do regular maintenance on the brakes or is that the cars fault?

    • @40040
      @40040 Месяц назад +9

      I also own one of these and do regular maintenance so I don't crash into things

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +5

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @ianspeckmaier9565
      @ianspeckmaier9565 Месяц назад +3

      ​​@@Skarlet_OverdriveA quick search yields info that the brake booster/assist system can fail randomly with no warning, causing the brakes to go back to an unassisted state, as if the engine was off. I could absolutely see this causing a collision if you had to make an emergency stop. GM issued a recall for them.

  • @daltonklinkenberg
    @daltonklinkenberg Месяц назад +162

    I think a Mitsubishi Mirage review needs to be done for this series.

    • @chemtrailstheband6198
      @chemtrailstheband6198 Месяц назад +8

      That was truly the worst car I ever owned.

    • @jg7041
      @jg7041 Месяц назад +14

      I owned one for 5 months. I was looking for good fuel economy. Averaged about 33mpg which is way lower than the epa estimate. Way too small and anemic to only get that in return. Sold it to Carvana and never looked back.

    • @brian5o
      @brian5o Месяц назад +5

      This was my thought exactly! I bet it could dethrone the Sentra from the bottom of the list.

    • @GuntanksInSpace
      @GuntanksInSpace Месяц назад +13

      I know Mr. Reg did a Mirage G4 already, but I'd definitely love for Roman to put in the Mirage Hatchback in a RTTB.

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 Месяц назад +7

      I think I could live with one for 12-13k, but now local dealers are charging almost 20,000 for base models. I can't believe people are actually playing that much for them.

  • @pontiacGXPfan
    @pontiacGXPfan Месяц назад +50

    As bad as this car was, I wish Chevrolet still built it instead of the garbage crossovers they churn out today

    • @Fatherless-figure
      @Fatherless-figure Месяц назад +2

      pretty sure it's an Opel Astra, and since GM sold Opel that shit is not coming back

    • @tjwatson0403
      @tjwatson0403 Месяц назад

      ​@@Fatherless-figurethe Astra was one size up

  • @gordonmills2748
    @gordonmills2748 Месяц назад +98

    "the dealership took pity on him." Reminds me of the last time I took my money-pit Audi into the dealership when the clutch, flywheel, and gearbox all started to fail. The service advisor said "maybe you can limp along until you find something else?" Yes...an honest service advisor at an Audi dealership!

    • @eamon317
      @eamon317 Месяц назад +7

      My dad was looking at getting an Audi A3 in 2006 (with 3 young kids at the time). The salesman straight up told my dad that he would love the car but it’d be too much of a money pit for a young family. Then he bought a Legacy that shit the bed at 120,000 miles

    • @MrTilbin
      @MrTilbin Месяц назад

      I can't tell you how many things I did "because I was in there already."' and would charge parts at cost and no labor.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @carlfreiermuth5424
      @carlfreiermuth5424 14 дней назад

      One of our service writers is honest? we will fire him immediately. ☠️

  • @MrJommins
    @MrJommins Месяц назад +57

    There are so many funny lines in this episode that I can’t remember them all! And it all started when you refused to do an intro song. That was brilliant. And the line about them not only phoning it in, but that they called collect, actually had me laughing out loud! I can’t tell you how many years it’s been of me watching this channel, but it is every bit as funny as it was from the original ones. I love you guys please don’t ever stop.
    Sincerely,
    Joel Breen
    General Manager,
    Kunkleman, Chevy, Kia, Tesla, Saab, Ford, and Citroen.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +3

      TRUMP2024🇺🇸🦅🙏🍟🥳🎉

  • @GuntanksInSpace
    @GuntanksInSpace Месяц назад +47

    That "just because you had to downsize your dreams doesn't mean you gotta settle for worse" line is fucking strong.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +2

      TRUMP2024🇺🇸🦅🙏♥️🥳🎉

  • @robertpeterson8640
    @robertpeterson8640 Месяц назад +10

    I love this channel to pieces. It manages to take all the anxiety, disappointment, and frustration of living in the USA and blame it on some crap cars. Your liberal arts degrees were NOT wasted!

  • @ObeseChess
    @ObeseChess Месяц назад +41

    As a Fiesta ST owner I felt his frustration with the cabin air filter. Absolutely no idea what they were smoking in Detroit in 2017.

    • @VincentLander
      @VincentLander Месяц назад +3

      Not Detroit, but Incheon, South Korea. The Cruze was, for the most part, designed by GM Korea.

    • @phgamer4393
      @phgamer4393 Месяц назад +2

      @@VincentLander i think thats just first gen. second gen which is what this is an opal which is european

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +4

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @geraldchapman6865
      @geraldchapman6865 Месяц назад

      Wait till you have to replace the battery

    • @2007NissanAltima
      @2007NissanAltima Месяц назад +4

      @@Cool07R6SRidersuch a beta

  • @capmadman6486
    @capmadman6486 Месяц назад +77

    This is for sure a moment that brings up the question "how do ya fuck up a manual"

    • @stuntmonkey00
      @stuntmonkey00 Месяц назад +28

      All manuals are bad now, unless they were made specifically for performance cars. They're geared too tall and have a lot of rev hang to meet emissions. Literally, the CVT version will get better economy and move faster because the remaining manuals are playing with a hand tied behind their back.

    • @knowone6214
      @knowone6214 Месяц назад +4

      easy ....let GM build it with idiots in mind....LOL

    • @vadim6385
      @vadim6385 Месяц назад +2

      Very easy. People seem to forget that there are (and always were) crappy manual transmissions, too.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +4

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🎉🎉

  • @jamesf456
    @jamesf456 Месяц назад +44

    The look of pure disgust on Roman's face from the dash cam says it all

  • @lp-dh1fn
    @lp-dh1fn Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for the "you deserve better" monologue about dreams and expectations. Really hit home for me in a big way on an extremely personal level. Thanks Roman.

  • @thrasherthetic
    @thrasherthetic Месяц назад +66

    2018 sonic. Same engine. Approaching 200k. All I've had to replace so far is: radiator, hoses, water pump x2, valve cover gaskets x2, pcv system, engine water outlet, turbo lines, and everything related to the brakes.
    Its been fun.

    • @bruteboy123
      @bruteboy123 Месяц назад +15

      The sonic is lighter and probably performs better with the turbo and 6speed

    • @joshlewis5486
      @joshlewis5486 Месяц назад +4

      I had sonic with turbo and 6 speed. Very fun to drive and decent ride for small car.

    • @jacobyo99
      @jacobyo99 Месяц назад +10

      The Sonic does not have the same engine. The Cruze has the 2nd generation 1.4 while the Sonic always had the original

    • @ChrisBrown-pz2gu
      @ChrisBrown-pz2gu Месяц назад +2

      Not the same engine

    • @SINYSTOK
      @SINYSTOK Месяц назад +1

      Mike Nolan drives a fucking sonic 😭

  • @dforrest4503
    @dforrest4503 Месяц назад +39

    I really like hatchbacks over SUVs, and thought about this when it was new. They canceled the hatchback so fast I never got the chance.

    • @brian5o
      @brian5o Месяц назад +10

      If you’d like a hatchback with a manual, check out the Mazda 3. I test drove one a few years ago and it’s a lot of fun to drive and an amazingly nice car.
      Unfortunately, the turbo engine isn’t available with the stick which sucks but the naturally-aspirated engine isn’t bad.

    • @TheMsdos25
      @TheMsdos25 Месяц назад +3

      Honda made the Civic hatch Sport with a manual until this year. Even though it's slower, I'd recommend sticking with the non-turbo K20 engine.

    • @rickygforce4217
      @rickygforce4217 Месяц назад +3

      @@brian5o honestly I kinda prefer the NA engine - not as fast but it feels more natural with the gearing and the inputs imo (plus Mazda’s stick shifts feel so good that you forget about having a merely okay acceleration time)
      I feel like I’d be more into the turbo if the rest of the car was more aggressive and wasn’t trying so hard to be upmarket and “luxurious”. Rip mazdaspeed I guess

    • @MK2396E
      @MK2396E Месяц назад +1

      Toyota Corolla Hatchback is also a good choice. My 2019 XSE is still running well and it has over 108k miles!

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉

  • @skroid02
    @skroid02 Месяц назад +6

    I had one of these in the same year, premier trim in black with an auto trans; drove it from 5800 miles up to 170k miles. No transmission issues, only basic maintenance with a lifetime average mpg around 34-35. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but have no regrets.
    This review had me rolling lmao fine work as always!

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +3

      TRUMP2024🇺🇸🦅🙏🥳🎉

    • @gianhub
      @gianhub Месяц назад +3

      @@Cool07R6SRider This is the comment section of a review of a Chevrolet economy hatchback. You are not wanted nor welcome here

  • @Anamnesis
    @Anamnesis Месяц назад +31

    Congratulations, you set the new record for talking about a Chevy Cruze at 19 minutes! You smashed the old record of seven seconds. 😆

  • @PianoMelodicaDark
    @PianoMelodicaDark Месяц назад +2

    I love you Roman! You had me at *guitar* "AAAHHH forget it, I don't EVEN feel like doing an Intro Song for this!!"

  • @hotdawwgman
    @hotdawwgman Месяц назад +2

    Well, as a former owner of a 2018 Chevy Cruze Diesel Hatchback with the manual; I can attest, this review is spot on. In January of 2024, my clutch went out. Exactly what the owner of this Red Cruze experience. A stuck clutch. It needed a new Slave Master Cylinder. This issue destroyed my clutch. Thankfully, my Carmax Maxcare picked up the $5200 tab for this. Parts are almost non-existent that it took almost 2 months to get this fixed. This transmission shifts so horribly that I immediately bought a short throw shifter just to help with shifting. Gears are super long. It's loud and not that comfortable either. I did enjoy the torque and the 45 MPG i would get, but that is all. This car certainly belongs at #3 on the list.

  • @AnthonyPompa
    @AnthonyPompa Месяц назад +6

    Whenever I hear The Roman speak, it sounds so impactful. Great writing and narration. I love me a Roman review, especially a day early.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana Месяц назад +46

    It's the stupid chevy clutch. They designed their clutch pedal mechanism for V8 cars with too much torque, where the pressure plate needs excessive force to prevent slip. But they didn't want it to be a chore just to hold the clutch pedal down at a light (even though you should be putting the car in neutral for any decoupling longer than 5 seconds). So they made the clutch pedal heavy at the top then light at the bottom, like all the clutch actuation happens at the top 3rd and then the bottom 2/3rds are highly leveraged so the entire bottom half of pedal travel moves the pressure plate a micron. This makes it easy to keep your foot down on the clutch but when you go to take your foot off, the pedal barely feels like it wants to come up. Then you hit that inflection point and WHAM the clutch pedal snaps back up at you. When the car has a v8 and you barely had to touch the throttle to get going, this feels awful, but at least it works. But with a little 4 banger at 3000 rpm just to make enough torque to not stall, there's this huge speed differential, and the clutch pedal gives the clutch and flywheel 0.01 seconds to make up their mind about who wins OR IT'S MAKING IT UP FOR THEM.

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +2

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @Stanislav-zw8tn
      @Stanislav-zw8tn Месяц назад

      I absolutely hated driving my friend’s Camaro SS, the clutch was so unsatisfying to use and you summed it up perfectly.

    • @mehgusta
      @mehgusta Месяц назад +1

      and on the cruze it has a "clutch delay valve" lol itr delays the clutch actuation literally. it only lieks being granny shifted and slow.

    • @teagancombest6049
      @teagancombest6049 23 дня назад

      Ngl that doesn't sound too dissimilar to my Z3s clutch experience, also has the e36 cdv I believe.

  • @Savantrovert
    @Savantrovert Месяц назад +4

    "Indecisive as a child of divorce trying to choose which parent he wants to live with" Ouch Roman, that one really cuts deep

  • @phasmata3813
    @phasmata3813 Месяц назад +27

    I would pay money to see an interview with GM designers, engineers, and management. I have so many questions for GM, and theyre all, "Why?"

  • @saabernetics
    @saabernetics Месяц назад +2

    An ex of mine had one of these. That relationship crashed and burned pretty hard, but I have fond memories of that car. I remember taking it out for many a night drive through the snowy streets of a January night in Madison.
    Objectively a very mid car, but it was a great little ride for the city.

  • @ben501st
    @ben501st Месяц назад +4

    This guy gave the greatest reason for an aftermarket air intake: ease of maintenance. I'll gladly take some heat soak to replace all the screws and latches for a singular band clamp.

  • @dankallish5998
    @dankallish5998 Месяц назад +17

    Test drove one of these back in 2019. I was excited to go back to driving a "hot hatch", but then I actually drove it and shifted through the gears.
    My excitement went from "this could be my next car" to "this wouldn't be worth it if I could talk them down $5k."

  • @DiscGolfDom23
    @DiscGolfDom23 Месяц назад +9

    When my E46 Wagon kicked the bucket, I bought a 2018 Chevy Sonic RS Premier with the 1.4 Turbo and the 6 speed manual. It even had the GM Performance Package from the factory, which was an engine tune, a 1.5" suspension drop, and a special exhaust. I sold it for an automatic 2005 Volvo V70R after two years. The Sonic was...a car. This video helped give me the closure I needed. Sometimes, I miss that car. It got like 38 MPG highway, the armrests were so perfect for my driving position, and it was pretty practical and easy to drive. But the looming turbo issue, a non-compliant shifter, and the absolute lack of torque and power made it pretty uninspiring to drive. You're right. Manual transmissions don't belong in every car. I wanted that to be a budget hot hatch so badly. But it was definitely just a car.
    Also I stalled that shit all the time. I learned how to drive stick on my grandfather's 1964 Corvette and had driven several manual transmission cars before. I can't tell if it was just the numb clutch pedal or the absurd lack of torque. I never stall manual transmission cars, but I stalled the Sonic once a week.

  • @jankofalltrades
    @jankofalltrades Месяц назад +2

    I suspect that transmission was designed to be paired with a turbo diesel.
    It sounds like that transmission was set up to take advantage of low end torque that doesn't exist on a tiny gas turbo; but a similar sized turbo diesel would have no problem putting out.

  • @reyaswilfred2228
    @reyaswilfred2228 Месяц назад +11

    babe wake up new roman on a SUNDAY

  • @curtislumber6938
    @curtislumber6938 Месяц назад +7

    Roman, this is my favorite review. It’s like every man poetry. Thank you for doing what you do man, really.

  • @MrTilbin
    @MrTilbin Месяц назад +6

    Just because it's hatch and turbo doesn't mean sport. We need to get that out of our Need For Speed and Fast and Furious minds. Hatchbacks are great cars to own and operate 99% of the time, as 99% of owners just want "transportation" and not an experience or high speeds.

  • @eapZ28
    @eapZ28 Месяц назад +1

    Up until 4:69 AM caught me off guard 🤣 Nick this is one of your best so far!

  • @johnathanluther4012
    @johnathanluther4012 Месяц назад +12

    I had a 17 hatch with the 6 speed Auto, and she was a great car, tuned, fbo. And I sadly found out that that 4 car crash test is fantastic

  • @planej6315
    @planej6315 Месяц назад +4

    We have this in Germany as the Opel Astra. My mom has a 2016 model with the 1.4 turbo - the GM M32 gearbox is as accurate as liquid pudding with incredibly long and imprecise shift patterns and the clutch pedal feels like stepping into quicksand. Oh, and the brakes only work if you've already pressed the pedal 80% down. And that's how it was from the factory.

  • @ShingoKirishima1997
    @ShingoKirishima1997 Месяц назад +5

    My brother in law is a diehard Chevy guy. He married my sister, and a bunch of us dudes are Ford lovers. And some of us prefer Japanese over American cars in general (like myself)
    I told him I was looking into the Fiesta ST not because of the Ford Family stuff, but because the other American manufactures don't offer anything similar (Sub-Compact Hot Hatchback with a turbo and a manual). He recommended this to me and hearing the horror stories I declined. This car uses the same platform as a Daewoo and even Opel/Vauxhall twins before GM sold those two brands recently to PSA (now Stellantis)
    Sure, the Fiesta ST suffers from similarly awful design choices that the Cruze does. But out of all the cars I've test driven it's the one that I fell in love with the most

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      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад

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  • @obxmay
    @obxmay Месяц назад +1

    Bought one of these new in 2018. Tons of GM credit card points + a stout GM cash incentive + guaranteed $2,500.00 trade at the dealership = about $14,700 out the door. Not bad considering the sticker was almost 23 grand. Drove it back & forth to my aging parents house for 1.5 years & 24K miles and I just couldn't take it anymore. That shifter felt like a 90's PS/2 mouse. and that transmission...ugh. I was definitely spoiled by Honda manuals. I contacted Carvana in the winter of 2019 and they sent a flat bad and a check for $15,200.00. Good riddance to a car that could've been so much better. Great review, Roman!

  • @phoenixproto3149
    @phoenixproto3149 Месяц назад +16

    Chevy Cruze hatchback: when GM tried to pull a Ford Focus and make a hatch and a sedan on the same platform

    • @atevalve
      @atevalve Месяц назад +3

      I mean that's been a thing since the 70's or 80's.

    • @chkndnts
      @chkndnts Месяц назад

      The Cruze is way better built than a Focus though

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +2

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  • @TheTech9
    @TheTech9 Месяц назад +2

    As a lube tech I can tell you we were expected to check the cabin filter on every oil change we were given 24 minutes to complete. That cabin filter was a pain in the ass!

  • @Gil3490
    @Gil3490 Месяц назад +4

    you guys faces while riding/driving are priceless this is an instant classic

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +4

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    • @Gil3490
      @Gil3490 Месяц назад +3

      @@Cool07R6SRider wohooo!!!

  • @SamCyanide
    @SamCyanide Месяц назад

    You killed it on this one Roman, loved "makes falling down a flight of stairs seem like an all expenses paid vacation" and "The build sheet said 200hp as long as i dont use the radio"

  • @TalenGryphon
    @TalenGryphon Месяц назад +11

    At this point I'm convinced GM is the reason automatics are so popular here in the states. All the WORST manuals I've driven have been GMs.
    I used to daily an '84 K20 with a Muncie SM465. Shifting it was glacial, the gates were in different time zones, and yet it was still hard NOT to grind gears. The gearing itself was taller than the Himalayas on 3 of its 4 speeds (which was Not enough) but first was so short you were redlined at a fast walk.
    Plus it constantly howled so loudly that on one occasion I had a *Literal Wolfpack* start howling back at me while I was descending a mountain.
    I ultimately sold it for an '85 K30 that has a TH400. Despite being a slushbox and having even fewer gears it is Light Years away a better driving experience, as it doesn't feel like a fast farm tractor

  • @fogelmclovin6815
    @fogelmclovin6815 Месяц назад +7

    this car is such a rare sight in the wild....now I know why!

  • @LimitedTimeRoman
    @LimitedTimeRoman Месяц назад +2

    So, funny story, we set this for Monday, but we were in Australia when we scheduled it, so it went live on Australian Monday -- today. So watch today or save for tomorrow as tradition dictates. I'll just be here waiting on our connecting flight from Dallas to Philly (my ass is sore from all the sitting).

  • @stevelang6342
    @stevelang6342 Месяц назад +27

    You don't appreciate great engineering. You prose-whipped proselytizer of prosthetic powertrains!

  • @scottsoltau9662
    @scottsoltau9662 Месяц назад +2

    I love my Cruze hatch. 7 years. 90 thousand miles. Not one problem!!

  • @2steaksandwiches665
    @2steaksandwiches665 Месяц назад +20

    I like when Roman isn’t his normal cheery self

  • @bandguymichael
    @bandguymichael Месяц назад +6

    We need to get a Mitsubishi Mirage into Roman's hands!

  • @bachouttapocket
    @bachouttapocket Месяц назад +3

    My wife has an auto sedan Cruze. It's a very competent economy car, but we've learned that you can't accelerate from a stop. You HAVE to be already moving to actually move lmao

    • @dans6761
      @dans6761 Месяц назад +1

      This is true. You can zip out of a toll booth when you are already going 15 but it won't launch at a stop light at all.

  • @ironduke6100
    @ironduke6100 Месяц назад +2

    well... that "you deserve better" segment actually got really personal :( lol

  • @rgpark69
    @rgpark69 Месяц назад +7

    I rented a Cruz in 2018 and I couldn't agree more.

  • @joshlewis5486
    @joshlewis5486 Месяц назад +4

    The first gen Cruze looked great, great interior for gm at the time. Reviews gave it high fun to drive rating. ( second gen was tuned softer) main problem I read about was reliability and issues with the 1.4 turbo.

  • @lakeelmpine5351
    @lakeelmpine5351 Месяц назад +4

    I have no clue if this is in the video but Consumer Reports said this was a "used car best pick" for 2024. This exact model year.

  • @blazer192837
    @blazer192837 18 дней назад +1

    my dad deleted the vents, replaced all rubber parts for turbo. didn't replace the turbo itself. but this was at 200,000 on a regular cruze, automatic.... not a hatch back. he's also hit 3 deer with it lol.

  • @subparconscript9454
    @subparconscript9454 Месяц назад +1

    My old roommate had one of these. Fun thing I learned doing the oil change for her, the bolt GM stuck under it to drain the oil shreds it head if you aren't careful because its too small to generate enough torque.

  • @dibblr
    @dibblr Месяц назад +3

    might be my favorite race to the bottom so far
    love u Roman

  • @Mrdrivereight
    @Mrdrivereight Месяц назад +6

    They got a Cruze with a diesel engine and manual transmission that gets like 60mpg

  • @jg7041
    @jg7041 Месяц назад +3

    I finally got rid of that roommate earlier this year! As someone in their early 30s, I didn’t have that 3 more years.

  • @andrewhayes88
    @andrewhayes88 Месяц назад +3

    I owned a 2016 Cruze RS (first gen) with a Manual. I loved that car. My first car I bought brand new. Glad I didn't get the 2nd Gen instead...

  • @alexandernovosad4722
    @alexandernovosad4722 Месяц назад +1

    I have an ‘18 LT hatch. It’s not the funnest car in the world, but with a tune it’s not half bad. It’s also dead reliable. 165k miles and almost no issues. These second gen Cruze’s are WAY better than the first gen

  • @boggy7665
    @boggy7665 28 дней назад

    I have this exact car except didn't pay extra for fancy paint. It has helped me be calmer & not get triggered into hot-headed driving. I'm happy with it.

  • @IanDunbar1
    @IanDunbar1 Месяц назад

    Roman was on a roll this episode. The roommate rant is one of the best things he's written as part of Race to the Bottom.

  • @kevint.5381
    @kevint.5381 Месяц назад

    I live for these reviews…not for the vehicles per se, but the commentary alone. The wit and relatability..especially when reviewing a turbo turd like this is a public service to drivers that want to hear what the real deal is.

  • @KrisShadow216
    @KrisShadow216 Месяц назад +1

    00:34 Also not all v8s makes a car better. Dropping 2 cylinders isn't going to harm the tow compacity much either. There's semi trucks that deliver you vehicles to a dealership that have an inline 6 under the hood.

    • @natas12rm
      @natas12rm 15 дней назад

      Under load v8’s get better gas mileage.

  • @seed_drill7135
    @seed_drill7135 Месяц назад +2

    My first car had GM's first offered 5-speed (a Borg Warner, reverse h-pattern). It ate through a clutch every 35,000 miles and eventually burst out the firewall. It was so stiff you almost needed both legs to engage the clutch. Of course, it's stall prone carb necessitated riding the clutch every time you came out of 1st.

  • @linus11vf1j
    @linus11vf1j 23 дня назад

    I worked at Lordstown, OH at the plant that made this vehicle for a few months. A couple of things about the production of this vehicle:
    The plant was always concerned about production output, and would never do maintenance on its equipment unless absolutely necessary. The plant itself was a solid generation behind in technology than the rest of GM. They NEVER cleaned the plant, so in body shop where I worked, you'd be walking on weld slag instead of the concrete floor in the robot areas during maintenance. The contractors they hired were the cheapest trash they could find to do updates and installs, and often they failed, requiring more money to hire from someone at my company, and even then, they'd try to hard hustle for free services. It was a bad working environment, the quality of production was bad, and they always went over budget.

  • @zanzabar4ky7
    @zanzabar4ky7 Месяц назад +5

    Wasn't the Spark the last hatch they had, it came in manual. I get if we are not counting Daewoo designed cars, but the Cruze was not a Chevy USA designed product to start with either.

    • @rturner4205
      @rturner4205 Месяц назад

      Wasn't it an Opel design? I heard Torx screws and immediately thought Germany.

    • @TheIncredibleJumpman
      @TheIncredibleJumpman Месяц назад

      @@rturner4205 GM uses torx screws a lot, but usually on interior items. Some e-torx screws do get used on engine components though, depending on the car.

  • @mitchellbrown9713
    @mitchellbrown9713 Месяц назад +13

    I am 64 years old. I remember GM cars of the past. They weren’t this bad, but they haven’t been good since 1971.

    • @eljeff1111
      @eljeff1111 Месяц назад +1

      From an elder Zoomer, I'd love to hear your opinion on all USDM brands - is mediocrity a trait of all of the Big 3 or is it just GM?
      Besides the Oil Crisis around that time, ~1971 or so, were there any other factors that contributed to this mediocrity?
      I share the opinion that American cars were "better" pre-1971; in your mind, what in particular made them better?

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад +3

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉

    • @Mahoromatic
      @Mahoromatic Месяц назад

      ​@@eljeff1111Cars went to shit in the 70s because of stuff like EPA regulations and then the Americans had to learn from JP cars like the Celica.

  • @tomgnyc
    @tomgnyc Месяц назад +8

    I DARE anyone to drive a Cruze Eco for a year and not stall at least 365 times.

    • @GiJokhar
      @GiJokhar Месяц назад

      Dare accomplished, where's my trophy

    • @Cool07R6SRider
      @Cool07R6SRider Месяц назад

      TRUMP2024🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉

  • @bubba8984
    @bubba8984 Месяц назад +6

    that was a pretty cool fly in the engine bay

  • @dans6761
    @dans6761 Месяц назад +1

    I have the automatic sedan version of this car. It's not very fast or exciting but it is smooth on the highway and I average about 35 mpg on my 75 mile round trip to work every day. I'm at 115k and the only non maintenance repair was an engine knock sensor at about 100k.

  • @bbuny10
    @bbuny10 Месяц назад

    When I was a valet, I had just parked a 3 series manual wagon to show my supervisor I could drive stick, I nailed it, and it was amazing. I daily drove a manual accord as well
    I knew how to drive stick, and enjoyed it
    And then someone pulled up in a Chevy cruze manual.
    I was excited. My supervisor got in
    And I stalled it. Right there in the entrance of a hotel. I stalled it 2 more times before we switched seats. After he drove it away he stopped, and had me try again. I got it without a problem after that but it was such an awful clutch to deal with
    Sad to see they haven’t gotten much better since then

  • @rx6180
    @rx6180 11 дней назад

    I don't know how much of a relationship there is between the Chevy Cruze and the European Opel/Vauxhall Astra of the same era, but they are certainly similar cars. In 2017 I owned a 16,000 mile 2014 Vauxhall Astra with the GM six-speed auto and a 1.6 litre, normally aspirated ECOTEC gas engine. The auto box was atrocious and has put me off owning another automatic car for life. At 30mph, which is town-speed, the transmission was '4th gear-5th gear-4th gear-5th gear-4th gear-5th gear-4th gear-5th gear-4th gear-5th gear' ALL THE TIME. And you could feel it and see the rev counter dancing around. On a slight incline, coming off one of our British roundabouts, the thing was hanging onto a lower gear and screaming for the next gear, LONG after I would have changed up in a manual. Drinking gas. Sure, pulling away from a standstill, I could break traction and spin the front wheels far too easily trying to make a brisk start, but once up to around fifty or sixty, the engine was gutless. If I was doing around sixty/sixty five on the highway, and caught up with a truck and wanted to pass, when I pulled out and pressed the gas pedal to try to achieve seventy - nothing. Press harder - nothing. Press harder still - KICKDOWN! Drop two ratios, give me whiplash with the jerk of the downshift, and send the revs round to about the 5000rpm mark with the motor screaming like a banshee. It was crap. I had a long list of dislikes about this low mileage GM car, from water leaks into the interior, a door filling up with about a gallon of rain water, and uncomfortable seats and a rattle at idle from the dashboard. I suffered this four-wheeled abomination for 11 months, before selling it back to the used car dealer who sold it me for £2000 less than I had paid, and that was a very good price, compared to the trade-in elsewhere I'd tried to do and the 'we-buy-any-car' cash for your car methods I'd got quotes on. I ran a twenty year old European Escort for 12 months, then bought a 2015 diesel powered Volvo which I still own five years later. I swore never again to touch another GM car or a Vauxhall badged car, which are now Stellantis anyway, so no better.

  • @official4lopez
    @official4lopez Месяц назад

    I have a background as a mechanic. EXCEPT for the horrible seats that no add on cushion or accessory helps, this is the most fun econo-box I have ever driven! Better than a 3.1L Malibu that was my previous econo-box fun car choice. ALSO all 1.4L turbo GM engines need premium ! ! ! ! ! ! OMG I can't stress this enough to people! ! ! ! Pre-ignition will ruin any engine, and this engine is said to be especially sensitive to pre-ignition damage in the vein that Pentastar engines are. When I learned the Cruze was being discontinued I searched and found a new 1.4L 2018 Cruze LS with automatic for dirt cheap. I drive it about once a week and always have fun, I just can't sit in those seats for a full week or a long trip.

  • @Junohawk
    @Junohawk Месяц назад +2

    5 years with my manual Sonic and the trifecta tune helps, but the gearbox does suck the fun out of it; egregious rev hang + super tall gears + vague clutch feeling;

  • @chrisbalfoort2564
    @chrisbalfoort2564 Месяц назад

    I’ve lost track of how many turbos I’ve replace on those GM 1.4L engines. The housing cracks and the wastegate can’t seal properly. The tiny oil feed line also sludges up and starves them. I had one where the plastic oil return line melted, but there was no leak because the feed line was already clogged. The 1.4 is almost as bad as the 3.6.

  • @Redsparrow12
    @Redsparrow12 Месяц назад

    I'm broken, I saw it, liked it, thought I could deal with those things, started looking at autotempest while watching the video, made it to the end and saw the Jeep got bumped and was so excited, because that's what I've been driving and been thinking about replacing.

  • @FierceMotorworks
    @FierceMotorworks Месяц назад

    This was also meant to compete in the same space as the Dodge Dart. Didn't think I'd say this, but I'm glad I went with the FCA product. My manual Dart has been surprisingly reliable by comparison.

  • @crimsonsr20
    @crimsonsr20 Месяц назад +1

    Ah, the good ole Chevy Curze. I know its spelled Cruze, but thats the nickname I gave these cars after a buddy of mine owned one. First time around, the thermostat housing somehow got cracked. So I replace it for him. 2 weeks later, he calls me again, "Hey the car is smoking thru the vents and it smells sweet". Turns out his heater core line cracked at the flared flange where the line and heater core meet. So I replaced the heater core and the lines for him. 3 weeks go by, and he calls me again. "Hey, the cars overheating again". Mind you, that at this point, the car only has 70k miles. Go and check it out again and it turned out the cap for the coolant reservoir wasn't properly sealing. Tried to just replace the o-ring on the cap to save him some money, but no cigar. Have to buy the whole reservoir assembly, cuz chevy doesn't sell the cap by itself. I tell my buddy, "Jesus dude. Just sell this POS before something worse happens and you're stuck with an expensive paper weight." He listens and sell the god forsaken thing. 2 months later, were hanging out drinking and smoking around the fire and the Cruze comes up in conversation. He then proceeds to tell me how the guy he sold the car to, had just called him the day before, demanding his money back. He said that somehow, all the cars electronics had failed. That they thought it was a battery issue, but even after replacing the battery, that the car would not crank, turn on the headlights, radio, dash, nothing. I told him, "See, aren't you glad you got rid of the Curze."

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff111 Месяц назад

    As someone that drives a 1.4 turbo 2011 Cruze from time to time that now has 111,000 miles on it, I can say the engine is much happier with an automatic. The 6 speed auto is a bit, dumb, when shifting manually, you have to tell it to shift about 500 RPM earlier than where you want it to actually shift. Also, with the engine being stock other than a K&N Typhoon intake kit that was installed a few months after the car was bought and a ZZ-Performance ignition coil I installed recently, the 1.4 really does not like being up at red line, the power just drops off quickly above 5,000 RPM, I found the engine pulls best when the transmission shifts about 5,500 RPM, especially in the lower gears where bouncing off the rev limiter hurts acceleration huge. I do recommend to anyone with a Cruze 1.4 turbo upgrading your ignition coil. Even when the car was brand new, the turbo did not spool as quickly as it does now from idle, and you could tell when a cylinder was getting weak spark as the factory coil started to fail. Sorry for the rant, but I can say that the 1st generation Cruze (at least in my experience) that is well taken care of can be a damn good car, but a manual would ruin it, unless it was the diesel. The diesel Cruze made the manual worth it. The 1.4 turbo and the manual transmission was a lot of fun in the Chevrolet Sonic, it matched great there to the shorter wheel base and lighter weight. Also, the 1st generation of Cruze, the ones like my roommate's car with the Z-link rear suspension, handle AMAZING. I hope you guys get your hands on a nice 1st generation Cruze that has the 1.4 turbo, 6 speed auto and the Z-link rear suspension to compare to this car. I personally find the handling of the newer cars to be rather funky and no where near as well controlled.

  • @AlanTheBest97
    @AlanTheBest97 Месяц назад

    Had a 2011 Cruze 2.0 NA manual. It was a great little car. Got it for dirt cheap, had no issues with it. I dont know about the newer ones though, but the 2011 is pretty nice. I also think it looks very sexy.

  • @matthewbaquero
    @matthewbaquero Месяц назад

    My mother has a 2016 sedan automatic. It sounds like it's better than a manual. Shifts way early. Saves a lot of gas. The car has no personality and feels heavy to me but it's a really comfortable highway cruiser for long road trips. Going south on 476 at 77 mph we averaged 52 mpg over a 50 mile span at one point. That's pretty impressive. Less than a gallon to go 50 miles at speed. Impressive

  • @ynotw57
    @ynotw57 Месяц назад

    Random comment, but damn, the quality of your voice in this video. Nice work.

  • @Savvy_VR
    @Savvy_VR Месяц назад +3

    His face during the drive says it all! Lol!

  • @iyelawolf2196
    @iyelawolf2196 14 дней назад

    Had a 2015 Cruze LS, had an unfixable electrical issue from the day I bought it at 40k miles. At 74k miles I went to do spark plugs, oil in the spark plug wells.
    Unfixable issue: car would momentarily turn off all electronics (including steering) for about half a second. Seemed to be more frequent when under a higher electrical load (AC and Radio and window being used at the same time). Did all the recommended repairs, took to 3 dealerships and a local shop. Nobody could fix it

  • @timothycoyne5874
    @timothycoyne5874 Месяц назад

    You’re right; not every car is improved with a manual transmission. Two come to mind for me.
    Maybe 10 years ago I was new car shopping and checked out a new Subaru Impreza manual. This was only in the showroom - and maybe it would have broken in - but the shifter action was rough, with way too much resistance, and it was only a 5-speed when most manuals were 6-speeds.
    Several years ago while shopping again I test drive a new 1st gen. Genesis G70 with the 6-speed manual. I thought it would make a luxury sedan feel sportier. I was wrong. The shifter was okay but the throws were too long, and it just felt unnatural, if that makes any sense. The car also felt very heavy, negating any sporting pretense I’d had in my mind.

  • @channingwalmsley9738
    @channingwalmsley9738 Месяц назад

    Story time: when I was shopping for my “go to college car”, 2 of my final competitors were a Chevy Cruise hatch and a Honda Civic hatch, RIGHT at this same year interval of 2017! I ended up going with the Honda, but with an auto (CVT really) because I couldn’t drive stick at the time. I would argue this as a polar opposite case of a car that absolutely would be better with a manual, all other points roughly the same, but I have had next to no problems out of the Honda and I’m nearly at 110K miles on it. I wish I lived closer to do a comparison between the two since they both kind of fit the same bill, just opposite. (Side note, the CVT of the 2017 model Honda behaves as a CVT should, jump to peak torque and stay there, no fake shifting)

  • @dylanhinds5656
    @dylanhinds5656 26 дней назад

    I learned how to drive stick in one of these with the 1.4 turbo, I commuted over an hour to work every day and routinely got mid 40s for average mpg. Yes the car was boring, yes I killed it sporadically even when it felt like I was doing everything right. For the price and the money it saved me in fuel I would 100% buy this again.

  • @JamesStiling
    @JamesStiling Месяц назад

    I'm relatively new to "rural living" - there are 2 kinds of vehicles that will consistently tailgate on a 2 lane at any given time - trucks, duh.... and strangely, Chevy Cruze. It has been the wildest surprise of my experience

  • @Skarlet_Overdrive
    @Skarlet_Overdrive Месяц назад +2

    Wait...I rented one of these in 2019. It was an auto sedan version too and I drove it in the mountains of west virginia. Coming from an S2000 owner, I was a little surprised how well it handled. It was really zippy like a honda despite having such a small engine. It felt really smooth, too. I drove it from Idaho all the way to virginia. The only complaint I had was that the brakes were a tad small (they overheated pretty quickly). It's not the BEST economy sedan I've driven (that honor belongs to the 2024 Accord Sport Hybrid), but it certainly wasn't a TERRIBLE car, either.

  • @solidblockofsunrise
    @solidblockofsunrise Месяц назад +8

    2:00 😳 uhhh...

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 Месяц назад +3

    A classic example of Car manufacturers finding new way to not put turbo in there good cars and instead putting it in a car nobody asked for

  • @TheLaloloco24
    @TheLaloloco24 Месяц назад

    I have the same car in an automatic. So glad I don’t have a manual. Been a pretty good car so far but you really need to take care of this car for it to stay good. Only buy a well maintained one for sure.

  • @nightwolf883
    @nightwolf883 Месяц назад +1

    At this point Roman should just start his own channel if he hasn’t already

  • @brysonrobinson8389
    @brysonrobinson8389 Месяц назад

    Had my manual cruze for 5 years never needed to replace the air filter, cabin filter replacements sucks and I had to do it often. Check engine light stayed on never had power. But I did avg 45 mpg highway and yeah the clutch pedal kept getting stuck

  • @Jerseygarage
    @Jerseygarage Месяц назад +3

    The S550 mustang is the ultimate proof that a manual transmission doesn't always make a car, even performance cars, better.