Does anyone know how far the average gamer is at the forgotten halls? I have 2 stars on 14 and 1 on 15. I can only pass moc stage 1 and 2 without stars. Kinds infuriating that I can't seem to get better at it
No need to rush, maybe your character level, light cone & traces of your character is still low, relics are also important for your main dps like Seele & Jing Yuan
@@ZettoGenshin almost everyone I built have their important traces maxed. Maybe it's just the relics, I noticed I have very low attack compare to the 2800+ others have
I have max stars stage 1 to 15 and 2 stars on MoC stage 1 to 3. Most of it are Seele's work honestly. But now with Jing Yuan, (I won another 50/50), given enough time and build, I can say for sure I can achieve max stars on the earlier stages of MOC. P.S. I don't have Bronya and Tingyun. I think it would've been less of a struggle with them.
I'm f2p and I've cleared forgotten hall full star. I cleared moc 1 and 2 with only 1* each. I still haven't tried stage 3 yet. My only dps units are Jing Yuan and Susheng.
@@Zinz778 on set quantum crit dmg% body with 11% crit rate? are you sure about that, the game is still very new and u can only get 1 guaranteed 5 star relic per run so thats pretty good i would say
@@sukuna5918 I got lightning set spd boots with 5.1 crit rate and 18 crit dmg, that's much better.. getting 1 alright set piece isn't anything too speical, hell that's probably his free guarantee from the battle pass.
From the tier list site, the best 4* light cone for Jing Yuan is 1. Today is another peaceful day (battle pass lc) S1 > 2.Herta (The birth of the self) S1 > 3.The seriosusness of breakfast S5
@@rexonic73 If you believe your team can survive with Gepard, then I think it's better to use Pela because her ultimate can reduce enemy defense (pretty good)
@@ZettoGenshin yea At first was thinking of going March + gepard for counter attacks plus extra shield if needed, but Pela def shred might be worth more
@@M.sat03 basically Jingyuans follow up attack is a seperate character which we call the Lightning Lord. Both Jingyuan and his Lightning lord are slow but Jinyuan can speed up Lightning lord by getting more stacks (max 10) but because of how slow Jingyuan is, without a speed buff or advancing forward, its hard to get to max stacks before the Lightning Lord attacks, resulting in low damage overall because Lightning Lord does not get max stacks
@@M.sat03 asta does not boost lightning lord speed with her ult so jingyuan is pretty much guaranteed to get another turn before lightning lord's turn and she can also give atk buff with her E
@@nyandakun6995 u got 3 lightning characters in that team to shred the shield I don't think that's the reason, also pela is very underpowered at shredding shields
Yeah, I have the Inert Salsotto planetary sets but still can't reach 50% crit rate, farming relics is hard just like farming artifacts in genshin impact
Well it’s a fair showcase how far you can have him with f2p ressources and his team had a lot of great support tingyun and pela to help so this showcase between seele and him was very balanced
@@Furinasupremacyy11 Yea unfortunately, he has a lot of his power locked behind A6 traces (which isnt possible to obtain rn) since it gives him free 15% crit rate.
of course he's weaker than seele in this video, 40% less critical dmg, his skills are not leveled up and he has purple relics with a lower level than Seele's higher-level golden relics. This video isn't a good comparison between the two because their funding has a huge difference.
@@UOHCUNY do you have both JY and seele? I was using an e2 dan heng as my DPS, but my JY is doing more damage than him. (probably the same damage in ST, but he's AOE so I consider more damage)
@@UOHCUNY nah it's obvious bro seele is stronger in 1 v1 but that JY is good at multi target so that you can't compare them both because seele is single target and JY is multi it's obvious bro
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You should use the auto attack from Asta, if the ennemi is already broken, you will still get 2 stack of buff and gain 1 point.
Man, i really wish i could have a second healer soon, i literally stuck at forgotten hall 12 because i don't have a bailu 😭
ГОСПОДИ, ВЫ В ТОЧНОСТИ ОПИСАЛИ МОЮ СИТУАЦИЮ
Got three stars without healer easily. Invest in some defense
Gepard without heal could works if you have around 1800+ shield when he ult. But, if you dont have them maybe wait for luocha? Idk.
@@TechyCatz I only have 1 defense that is MC 😂. Not everyone is lucky with early gepard/bailu.
@@starcr9750 i can consider myself lucky if i even have a gepard but no. I dont have him either. So luocha way for me.
Are you the evil twin Zetto StarRail?
Arghhh....building seele and jingyuan at the same time surely a pain in the ass. Especially farming for relics.
Does anyone know how far the average gamer is at the forgotten halls? I have 2 stars on 14 and 1 on 15. I can only pass moc stage 1 and 2 without stars. Kinds infuriating that I can't seem to get better at it
No need to rush, maybe your character level, light cone & traces of your character is still low, relics are also important for your main dps like Seele & Jing Yuan
@@ZettoGenshin almost everyone I built have their important traces maxed. Maybe it's just the relics, I noticed I have very low attack compare to the 2800+ others have
Me f2p, the same. No rush.
I have max stars stage 1 to 15 and 2 stars on MoC stage 1 to 3. Most of it are Seele's work honestly. But now with Jing Yuan, (I won another 50/50), given enough time and build, I can say for sure I can achieve max stars on the earlier stages of MOC.
P.S. I don't have Bronya and Tingyun. I think it would've been less of a struggle with them.
I'm f2p and I've cleared forgotten hall full star. I cleared moc 1 and 2 with only 1* each. I still haven't tried stage 3 yet.
My only dps units are Jing Yuan and Susheng.
WHAT! Male mc has same jp va as Itadori yuji! I would have chosen male mc if i knew before goddamn it 🙂
But female mc VA is same as Mikasa
Midtadori Yuji is nothing compared to Violet Evergarden
that seele body piece tho-
Nothing amazing? no atk%, no spd, it's all very achievable actually
@@Zinz778 on set quantum crit dmg% body with 11% crit rate? are you sure about that, the game is still very new and u can only get 1 guaranteed 5 star relic per run so thats pretty good i would say
@@sukuna5918 I got lightning set spd boots with 5.1 crit rate and 18 crit dmg, that's much better.. getting 1 alright set piece isn't anything too speical, hell that's probably his free guarantee from the battle pass.
@@sukuna5918 If it was a week ago, I'd probably agree though
Woah
you literally had the same team as me
I feel like honkai has better graphics than even Genshin 👀
Why is natasha in both teams in thumbnail
Oh wait I made a mistake haha, I'll edit it
I have an account with seele bronya and bailu and then another with yanqing gepard's light cone and jing yuan idk which one is better
Seele + bronya is very strong + bailu very good healer
1st acc for sure
Who should seele be replaced with?, because I don't have seele
and i don't have bailu too
Main dps: 5*: clara, yanqing, physical mc 4*: Dan heng, sushang, serval
for jing's light cone which is better? seriousness of breakfast or the herta one
From the tier list site, the best 4* light cone for Jing Yuan is 1. Today is another peaceful day (battle pass lc) S1 > 2.Herta (The birth of the self) S1 > 3.The seriosusness of breakfast S5
@@ZettoGenshin what is 1?
@@0lycm_ S1? = Superimpose 1, like in genshin R1 = Refinement 1
Herta LC is way better
how did you get your seele's lightcone to R5?
in herta's shop, there is an item to superimpose LC, the item can only use for LC in herta's shop
@@kazari.s hey that's pretty cool. Cheers boss
Is iy OK to change Asta with Bronya?
Yes Seele + Bronya are very good, but don't forget about enemy weaknesses, Asta is good vs enemies weak to fire element
@@ZettoGenshin Thank you! I'll try to build Asta
Is it worth to build natasha if u already have bailu?
sooner or later you will need 2 full teams
If you have Gepard, not really. If not, yes build her.
Healer role is good in this game, so yes.
Yeah, I have both built
Bailu is equal to a E6 natasha so if u already have bali just build bailu not natasha.
is it worth raising E0 Pela? Or should I just use March
Hmmm E0 Pela is still worth to build, but it's better to use March if you don't have a second healer (Bailu)
@@ZettoGenshin i mean, i was thinking of an ice unit for floor 2
Gepard, Jing, Ting
Last was wondering whom to use
@@rexonic73 If you believe your team can survive with Gepard, then I think it's better to use Pela because her ultimate can reduce enemy defense (pretty good)
@@ZettoGenshin yea
At first was thinking of going March + gepard for counter attacks plus extra shield if needed, but Pela def shred might be worth more
@@ZettoGenshin Is E6 March better than Fire Trailbalzer E6 for MoC? I got E1 Gepard durring summoning for Jing Yuan. I also have Bailu for healing.
u should swap pela and asta, they are in the wrong team
asta with jingyuan can boost his atk and speed to get 10 stacks pretty much everytime
How does it work can you explain
@@M.sat03 basically Jingyuans follow up attack is a seperate character which we call the Lightning Lord. Both Jingyuan and his Lightning lord are slow but Jinyuan can speed up Lightning lord by getting more stacks (max 10) but because of how slow Jingyuan is, without a speed buff or advancing forward, its hard to get to max stacks before the Lightning Lord attacks, resulting in low damage overall because Lightning Lord does not get max stacks
But the problem is probably from the enemy's weakness, that's why he put the comp like that
@@M.sat03 asta does not boost lightning lord speed with her ult so jingyuan is pretty much guaranteed to get another turn before lightning lord's turn and she can also give atk buff with her E
@@nyandakun6995 u got 3 lightning characters in that team to shred the shield I don't think that's the reason, also pela is very underpowered at shredding shields
okay with 2 healer easy...
The build of jing yuan is not the best
Yeah, I have the Inert Salsotto planetary sets but still can't reach 50% crit rate, farming relics is hard just like farming artifacts in genshin impact
We use what we have bro im happy with my 40 crit rate
Well it’s a fair showcase how far you can have him with f2p ressources and his team had a lot of great support tingyun and pela to help so this showcase between seele and him was very balanced
@@Furinasupremacyy11 Yea unfortunately, he has a lot of his power locked behind A6 traces (which isnt possible to obtain rn) since it gives him free 15% crit rate.
hes so weak in ST compared to seele. the tier lists lied to me
of course he's weaker than seele in this video, 40% less critical dmg, his skills are not leveled up and he has purple relics with a lower level than Seele's higher-level golden relics. This video isn't a good comparison between the two because their funding has a huge difference.
@@dennerrubio8237 I was talking about my experience
@@UOHCUNY do you have both JY and seele? I was using an e2 dan heng as my DPS, but my JY is doing more damage than him. (probably the same damage in ST, but he's AOE so I consider more damage)
@@dennerrubio8237 i compared JY with his LC and a borrowed seele with her LC. Both had similar stats and talent lvls.
@@UOHCUNY nah it's obvious bro seele is stronger in 1 v1 but that JY is good at multi target so that you can't compare them both because seele is single target and JY is multi it's obvious bro
Genshin abyss is wat better, anxiety levels are always up😂
he is so weak wtf
you are coping rn
Lost 50/50?
Well, the jingyuan in this video is not even properly build. Ofc he weak 😂