Evolution of Zelda's Moveset in Super Smash Bros. (2001-2018)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- unlike Sheik, Zelda has got big facelifts between games. her moves haven't changes as much though...
here's the move order for anyone curious:
A AAA sideA downA upA sidesmashA downsmashA upsmashA runA
Jump J-airJump JneutralA JforwardA JupA JdownA JbackA
JDodge JbackD JupD JdownD JforwardD
B upB downB sideB
Shield Sforward Sback Sdown
Grab backG upG downG Gpunchpunchpunch
Taunt sideT downT
ShieldBreak
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I love how in smash brawl and smash ultimate they gave her nice hair and dress animations!☺
Same! In Smash Wii U, her dress was too stiff and glued to her legs
And in melee to
Fun fact: the reason the transformation takes longer in Brawl than in Melee is because the game only has one form loaded at a time, so when the transformation is done it needs to pull the new form off of the disc. Brawl was the Wii's first dual-layer disc, so loading is indeed slower than Melee.
& they where separated in smash 4 due to the 3ds' storage limitations.
Ok nerd
good fun fact didnt know that
Oh thanks 🥰
@@timoyjonsen5428 was that suppost to be an insult.
He’s Just Standing There… MENACINGLY
I miss when Zelda and sheik were just one person and u got to transform as either characters
Why, that was so weird
@@LostSoulSilver it was cool
@@LostSoulSilver it was cool because it made sense, it’s like that in the actual games
Agreed definitely something they should go back to
I have no complaints about Ultimate Zelda, she is a cutie. But, I miss the Twilight Princess Zelda too, I would have liked that she return as an alternate skin (with some different animations)
True, TP Zelda could've been an alternate costume with her Brawl animations and voice actress! Even Ocarina of Time Zelda could've returned as well
Never going to happen, Nintendo is more focused on pushing DLCs and fire emblem (which is why Ike, Byleth, and Robin get to have alt skins and Zelda doesnt)
Yeah I prefer more serious and mature/realistic looking Zelda in smash as opposed to cutesy more cartoony zelda.
I wish that they let us use past Zelda skins on ultimate Zelda. They don’t have to give her the voice or animations just the literal skins like the ydid in Hyrule warriors.
Ooohhh, you mean Ultimate Zelda wearing Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess' Zeldas dresses, gloves, pants and having their hair color? I think she would look indeed good wearing OoT Zelda's costume, but I think TP Zelda's costume is too elegant and mature for her. I think her Ultimate recolor based on TP Zelda fits her better
@@2000fiona yeah that’s what I mean. TPzelda probably IS too mature but at they could still make the alt look closer to the original at least.
Me hubiera gustado que en Smash Ultímate Zelda tuviera la Skin de Smash Melee y Smash Brawl
I wish i could do costumes and put back the twilight princess and ocarina of time zelda outfits
Imagine how cool it would've been if we could have had both of these Zeldas as alternate costumes and also a Hilda recolor
@@2000fionaOMG YESSS
My favorite Zelda animations are Ultimate's Zelda's. Love her energy, her happiness and her confidence! And her innocence and cuteness. They also kept her elegant, though not as much as the other 2 Zeldas.
But I also really love how elegant, regal and graceful Twilight Princess Zelda is in Brawl and Smash 4! She's mesmerizing! I also love her whole outfit, her long gloves and especially her dress. So elegant and formal, with all the details, the opening on her back. Very fancy. Her braided, brunette hair was beautiful as well.
The most boring is Melee Zelda, but don't get me wrong, I really love her as well, she's one of my favorite Princess Zelda incarnations. But when compared to these other 2 Zeldas, she's bland, even her clothing is way more simpler and less detailed. Though I guess you can say she's shy and reserved? Her life in Ocarina of Time was pretty tragic, she was robbed of a normal childhood and teenager years, so I guess I can kinda understand why in Melee she barely has a personality.
I know it’s an old comment, but I feel like a lot of the reason why melee Zelda is so bland is because most characters in melee had very little personality in general.
@@sayzar9474 I completely agree! Peach for example, not only she and Zelda share some animations in Melee, she also is kinda tomboyish in this game when comparared to the later Smash games. I'm glad they've made her girlier and more graceful in the later games.
@@2000fiona yeah Peach almost has Daisy’s personality in Melee which I always thought was weird.
@@sayzar9474 Exactly! I don't know why most of the Smash fans prefer Melee Peach, when her personality in later Smash games fits her much better. Also, her dress' design from Brawl onwards is much more badas#
@@2000fiona The only thing i miss from Melee Peach is her side b explosion effect and her super strong badass slap (Forward Throw, it was the strongest throw in the game) The animation was so hilarious and satisfying
Her down taunt in melee brawl and sm4sh looked like she’s calling out for help instead of teasing like in ultimate tbh.
It always seemed awkward to me.
Yesss, the giggle adds a lot to the taunt, and she also waves more like a normal person, the Twilight Princess Zelda waved like she was an old fashioned damsel in distress calling for help. Also, she doesn't bend her back in a weird way now, why did old Zelda want escoliosis?
@@2000fiona escoliosis LMAOOOO
TP zelda was just rlly mature imo so seeing her do the cutesy wave taunt didn't seem to suit her too much to me lol;;;
Yeah like I’ve always wondered what the heck it’s supposed to be? It looks like some weird Hylian dance or something lol
So glad they changed it
Say what you want, Ultimate’s Zelda is my favorite (besides the lack of alternate skins).
She has the most waifu energy and the coolest looking final smash
@@lightningandodinify she looks like fucking 12 years old
@@Hugo_Prolovski Not rly. She looks like a young adult but in a cartoony style
i miss when she was able to transform into shiek!
I also miss that to.
Same.
Same
@Ulises Silva same, I play it more then ultimate tbh
Right I said the same smh 🤦🏾♂️
the reason why in smash Wii U, 3DS and Ultimate dont make Zelda and Sheik as one character or interchangable in-game is because of the 3DS' hardware limitations, and so Nintendo just decided to stick with it and give Zelda and Sheik a new down-special. (note that Sheik had 2 changed moves, her side special and down special)
I wish we had options to have different outfits in Ultimate like some of the other characters. I wish I could wear the OOT/Melee outfit on Zelda again :///
I miss oot Zelda as well, I feel like this encarnation is underrated.
@@2000fiona this Zelda incarnation is cute and “uwu” but since when is Zelda a “uwu” type of girl? She’s always been a mature, reserved, and wise Princess. I feel like they totally overcompensated her personality this time around.
@@SpiritHunterDSG I mean, Zelda from SS is upbeat and cheerful and she isn't even a princess. All Zeldas have a different personality, you can't really say she has an established character.
@@77staers16 exactly, Zelda's age, appearance and personality change in most of the The Legend of Zelda games, even her powers vary. For example, Breath of the Wild Zelda is arguably the most powerful Zelda incarnation so far, while Skyward Sword Zelda didn't even have powers!
that would be amazing! Each alt would be a different Zelda and I miss oot zelda :(
I don't know why they've changed her down smash animation after brawl, it looked much better in it and Melee, now in Smash 4 and Ultimate, her 2 kicks look weird.
Also, nice detail: Did someone notice the change in her down throw? In Melee and Brawl, she would zap her opponents with her magic, in 4 and Ultimate, she instead uses her fire magic. My headcanon is that in the first two the magic is coming from her feet and she's doing a weaker variation of her lightning kick, and the last two the magic is coming from her hands and she's doing a variation of Din's Fire
Zelda's side b was OP in Brawl
The sweetspot hitbox is literally a giant ball, it's pretty fast and can be angled a lot
@@Cristeve Indeed! I love Din's Fire in Brawl!
@@Cristeve i miss brawl
@@Cristeve is Din’s fire weaker now? Haven’t played brawl in a while
@@Glamuel My personal ranking of Zelda's Side B:
1.- Brawl: It's extremely fast, does decent damage, the hitbox is pretty big and can be angled quickly
2.- Ultimate: It's the strongest version and it's the only one that doesn't put Zelda in free-fall, but the sourspot is very weak and it's not as fast as it was in Brawl
3.- Melee: Many people think it's the worst because how extremely slow it is, but actually, thanks to Melee's weird knockback mechanics it can kill-confirm into an aerial, stage-spike the opponent near the ledge or cancel the opponent's second jump because how weak it is
4.- Wii U/3DS: It's just a worse version of Ultimate overall, it doesn't excell at anything, almost impossible to hit in normal circumstances
the melee and brawl music sync perfectly lol
I like Zelda, she's my favorite character. She's so beautiful in all Smash games, I like that she's waving
I believe the older animations is what made zelda graceful and not annoying. When you play against a zelda in ultimate, her sound effects make you annoyed especially when you lose to her. It's to up beat. The graceful effect seemed to make the matches a lot more epic.
Agreed
She used to look more like a depressed witch to me
Nah, you guys just don’t like to see princesses with actual personalities
The biggest nerf from melee to brawl was the sweetpots of fair and bair was nerfed in size and only lasted for 1 frame as opposed to 4 in melee. The sourspots dealt less damage and have to no knockback, and adding the fact that fair and bair got increase endlag making it a very risky move. Ever since brawl they havent buffed the sweetspot hitboxes and sourspots of fair and bair, and the damage and knockback of the sourspots of fair and bair.
I don't even understand why they gave Zelda such a significant nerf, considering she has always been low tier (before Ultimate came around and they finally gave her some respect). She should've been in Brawl and 4 a heavily buffed character with only some minor nerfs.
@@2000fionain melee the lightning kicks are much easier to land the sweetspot than any other smash game. Other smash games gave zelda some credit with buffs such as brawl minus, project plus (basically project m), sd remix.
@@2000fiona She would be broken if she had that hitbox in Ultimate, Sakurai designed her moveset to be a "weak princess with slow, but flashy and powerful attacks"
@@Cristeve zelda has poor mobility in the air so it was hard to get a sweetspot, if they buffed that they she would be broken. Zelda was always never balanced in any smash game, as she had too many flaws and a bad moveset options for the opponent as she lacked good frame data, hitbox problems, and range with her attacks.
@@alizafar2624 Yeah, but in Ultimate she got a LOT of buffs, in my opinion she could be Top Tier, but sadly players don't choose her so often
A good Zelda player is impossible to beat
I miss Brawl Zelda, she just felt so good to play, her attacks felt like they did something. Smash 4 kinda sucked, and Ultimate is pretty good but not my fave.
Really, it's her hair that makes her outfit nice in Smash 4
Imo The Legend of Zelda is one of the Nintendo’s games that works when its serious. TP worked so well because it fit the theme, always gonna prefer the more elegant and reserved Zelda design from brawl over the cartoony looking design in Ultimate.
A mi me gusta mucho su diseño en Ultímate,pero el de Brawl siempre será mi favorito
I like Brawl/Smash 4 Zelda more than Melee and Ultimate Zelda
I think that Zelda looks best in Smash 4 because her outfit and all of that looks better.
How? I hated it. They seemed to rush the translation of brawl Zelda into Smash 4 and lost the realistic style for a smoother cartoon style, but didnt have a unique style yet, which made Smash 4 feel like an identity crisis Simulator.
If you care only for special moves, then start at 3:32
Timeline marks for such move types would be appreciated.
I think melee Zelda looked best 😩❤️ and is the most elegant…
While she may be a "bad" character tier wise. I find her fun to play as. One of the original wizard/magic characters with some nice kick moves.
Enemy [STAND]
2:20
How is that attack done? no matter how much I try it doesn't work out 😭😭😭😭
You press the A button in midair
Evolution of Zelda's Moveset in Super Smaeh Bros. (2001-Present) 0:00 Marie Chaboyea & Marie Chaboyea & Marie Chaboyea-Kingbird
stop spamming
Zelda's clothes on super smash Bros Wii look like they are made entirely out of latex.
You mean Smash Wii U, right? Because in Smash Brawl, her dress looks like a normal dress
@@2000fiona Yeah, in smash wii U. They lighting and shading makes it look shiny and thick like latex.
@@giorgegi4060 I agree! I think her dress and gloves look weird, and they look almost silver, instead of the white from Brawl and Twilight Princess. Her clothing texture from Brawl looked way better!
@@2000fiona Exactly. Everywhere else, even in the nintendo 3DS version they look normal. But then the wii u version joined.
@@giorgegi4060 Not to mention that her dress was glued to her body, I'm glad they corrected that in Ultimate
Great video!
Evolution of Zelda’s Moveset in Super Smash Bros. (2001-2018) 0:00 Marie Chaboyea & Marie Chaboyea & Marie Chaboyea-Kingbird
Melee Zelda was fine brawl Zelda was the best Smash 4 Zelda had her legs glued to her dress and ultimate Zelda should have been toon Zelda or twilight princess zelda without the glued dress in my opinion
Zelda in Ultimate is hands down the best Zelda we've ever gotten. I never realized how dull and lifeless the other ones were until I saw how vibrant and expressive she was. She seems like an ACTUAL CHARACTER
It’s ok to be wrong
@@Faisal-nx8zy enlighten me, oh wise one
You mean peach 2?
Evolution of Zelda's Moveset in Super Smash Bros. (2001-Present) 0;00 Marie Chaboyea-Kingbird & Marie Chaboyea
I love ultimate zelda way more than her past self, idk why everyone hates her
I love Ultimate Zelda's personality and animations, but I prefer old Zelda's voice actress and design, I love her dress and brunette, braided hair
I don't think people hate her. Most just agree she's a downgrade from the past two. The past two were graceful and elegant. The new one is more peppy and to many a bit annoying.
@@aden774 that's what makes her better
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If they would do this in ultimate i would be happy: add alt skins for zelda and sheik and also add a limit when you can transform into both of them lasting 5 seconds and you can turn back into sheik or zelda again!!
Her down taunt in brawl/Wii U always confused me. What the heck is it? Some Hylian dance? I’m so glad they changed it to the laugh, it’s so good for annoying ppl.
Unpopular opinion, I love how annoying they made Zelda in Ultimate, it makes her way more fun to play as.
Luigi: "WAAAAAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAOH!!!"
Can zelda down B be countered by K Rool down B?
Literally low tier until Ultimate LOL
Sad it took Nintendo 3 Smash games to finally give her big buffs
Poor smash for 3ds it in smash for wii u shadow even though it has better control's and more stages than its wii u counterpart
En el ultimate grita como mona china lol
Niratz Que?
omg racist 😭
¿Por qué en los otros no se transforma en Sheik? :(
separate character since SSB4.
Ultimate zelda is waifu
Qué sactifactorio
such a downgrade on the sound :/
Zelda’s up air got worse tbh lmao
Imo it got better it's useable in ultimate
She barely looked like a human in melee
Because she's a god damn hylian
@@Waterdrinker2.0 omg
Shut up you thought you were cool-
LOL ZELDA
初コメ！イェイ！
She’s fun but terrible. This new voice actress is pretty ugh.
I agree, Jun Mizusawa
will always be the best Zelda voice actress, but unfortunately, this Zelda fits better the new voice they gave her
Yeah I used to play her a lot before ultimate. She's just too bubbly and anime for me now. Voice literally sounds like hentai
Zelda has been my main ever since smash melee, I have to say I was actually very disappointed in ultimate smash Zelda 😭. First things first,I love twilight princess Zelda design the best 💗!! She's more elegant and more like a mature princess. Pro brown hair Zelda 💯!! With that being said, her fight style has changed drastically 😭 NOT only is Sheik gone, but her OP smash is gone and her fireball is so hard to control!! They just made Zelda worse to me. She is no longer an OP player 😭. Also I did not like how they're making Zelda more cartoonish then a beautiful princess. I than guess they're trying to appeal to kids more 🤷🏾♀️. So with that being said I definitely miss old Zelda, Goodbye OP Zelda 😭😭😭
You do realize that she's better in Ultimate than she ever was before, right?
(I'm talking about her moveset.)
@@ego2133 As far as fast movememt yes, however that is all that needed to be improved. They took away sheik(which was a killer move) the fire ball doesn't last as long and is hard to control, as well as gave her a lame Smash as compared to the arrow which was multi- kill, which is now one kill 😭 So to me, they didnt improve her other than speed 🤷🏾♀️
@@lunagaia8723 Not really, besides Din's Fire still not being as good as it was in Brawl, Zelda was heavily buffed in Ultimate. People consider her to be mid tier instead of bottom tier now, which is really good for her! Transforming into Sheik shouldn't be considered a Zelda move, because she's literally just tranforming into another character, so it's not Zelda being Zelda anymore.
@@2000fiona I agree with the tier part of your comment however respectfully I disagree with the Sheik part. If Nintendo would have kept everything of the Brawl Zelda but improve what they did to Ultimate Zelda(such as speed and more weight as well as faster transformation) she would have been just as great!! Brawl Zelda's weakness WAS her weight. Most Zelda fighters including myself would have to transform to Sheik in order to not die so easily.
I see where your coming from about Sheik, however I Sheik is such a great aspect to Zelda, and was a great backup option as a Zelda fighter💯. It made battles more intense, and mastering and fighting with both characters made the experience gold. It is great to have a mix of magic and martial arts. Also I love how they incorporated that as her. It's what made her as a fighter special, and a great way to incorporate the game aspects of Zelda.
I was really expecting the same Zelda but better when playing smash ultimate, but for these reasons, I was heavily disappointed 💔
@@lunagaia8723 Oh, thank you for respectfully disagreeing, you're so sweet!
Evolution of Zelda’s Moveset in Super Smash Bros. (2001-2018) 0:00 Marie Chaboyea-Kingbird & Marie Chaboyea
Evolution of Zelda’s Moveset in Smash Smash Bros. (2001-2018) 0:00 Marie Chaboyea-Kingbird & Marie Chaboyea