Great video - I started my off grid Montana A frame a couple years ago and the information you provided in this video is spot on for people wanting to do the same. Another point of advice I would add is make sure you are confident in where your property lines are before purchasing, don't take someones word for it that can't he held accountable.
@@bestvideosthereare I’m with ya but it’s allot of work. Not a bad idea if you’re willing tho. I do like where your heads at. You can do about anything with the right work ethic
Problem with buying a ranch is that land is no longer valued based on production potential. Far from it. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure you'll need to have a BIIIGG nest egg or a nice sugar mamma. I would happily buy a few hundred acres, set up some corrals and live in a trailer if I could make money on hay and cows.
Mike is correct on many things except one deterent is the local city government that is a joke and will cost you much more to build then expected. If you want 2000 sq ft home built it will cost your over $500k to build with land included and probably one year to build.Prices are insane in Bozeman. The lot I purchased in 2011 for $40k now goes for $200k. Wait and let the market correct.
Bozeman is 9 months of winter (-25) and 3 months of guests. Building is out of control in Bozeman and they are slowly killing a wonderful place. Greedy builders are selling 800-900sq ft condos for $500k and taxes have almost doubled. Summer is a zoo of tourists and people that think petting a Bison is ok. There is a lot to see and do just with a lot more people.
Yeah I would love to live there. Leave the Bison alone, on a patch of land large enough to see my neighbor, scream how ugly his wife is and not hear me. In a 2 bed shack. No need for over development.
This is why I left 40 years ago, 9 months of winter, 1 of spring, summer and fall. I could have gotten rich selling Yellow Basin Property 5 to 20 acre plots.
March 21, 2022 we are moving to Bozeman from Pennsylvania. We are renting a house for now with plans to buy a house or maybe even purchase land and build within 8-12 months.
I have to say the town I live in has no zoning( covenants?means contracts) I dug my own spring ,built my home, barn , woodshed, animal shelters and a half mile of road to access it. Sounds like y'all in Montana have it kind of rough... I mean... H-O-A....? how can anyone even say that and freedom in the same sentance?
@@finleythegolden2909 tru'dat nid8ba, tru'dat Though infested with the 'State of Vermont' U.S.INC franchise, and relegated to a Vermontland model by the blueblood scion, these lands are productive, the water still sweet. This is as good a footing as any to remind the interlopers of the limitations upon their power guaranteed by the Vermont Constitution, and the UCC.
looking to buy land for my farm/dog and animal care business... and keeping my home on the land as well. I have family in bozeman now, and I am just looking for my forever place.
Basically each town has a certain age group, hamilton is for more rich, old retired folks. Stevensville I for the middle aged adults who wanna explore. Helena & Missoula are for the teenagers or exited people who want city in a country. Sula is litterly just camp grounds. Also *EVERYTHING* is Huckleberry. Huckleberry coffee, Huckleberry candy, Huckleberry donuts, Huckleberry icecream, Huckleberry bread, ALL OF IT. Also schools in hamilton suck
Good luck...living in central florida we are already a shadow of a former great place to live. Its heartbreaking what progress has done to my home. Crime, taxes and traffic is what we have now. Used to be cattle country now its nothing.
God Bless MONTANA...Heaven on Earth...what's this I'm hearing about Boz-Angeles, DON"T let them do it brother..remember if you give them an inch they will take a mile !!! Once they infiltrate your local Governments then it's all over..they will RUIN your lifestyles.
Local driven out by land prices, never been able to afford any of my own. Rental costs removed all capital I had or could have had. But the local owns the rental and the developers are local and the land hoarders are local so... unless your on the inside with these land owners you have no chance of a reasonable land cost to even get started. Rich out of state folks retiring move here and snatched up everything all of it. All that remains are the hoarders and the out of staters who own their vacation house rented out on air b nb and don't participate in the economy at all instead drain the avaliable electric and gas to head their empty vacation homes. Rediculis.
I’ve been thinking of moving out west to Montana Idaho or Wyoming for a few years now. Hopefully in the next 18 months to 2 years I’ll make the move. Probably leaning towards Wyoming for the moment.
Prices in Wyoming are better than Montana. The issue is that it’s very windy and barren. If you want practically no people Wyoming might be the place for you however only a million people in Montana in a state 2.5x the size of Florida makes it pretty uninhabited.
Nothing set in stone at the moment. I’d say the one big advantage I’ve seen so far is the state tax. Obviously that can change but you have to look at it that over a 20 year period you can spend an extra $100-200k and the taxes basically pay for it. If everything is equal between properties. I’ll admit that I’ve only been to Wyoming. Spent a week in Bridger National Forrest and loved it. I’m just in the beginning stages of getting information.
I've found, that unless you're a multi-millionaire, or a professional builder/contractor, it almost never makes sense financially to buy land. This seems true across the United States. Too many people think building is cheaper than buying, but that's just not the case. You're always better going with a fixer upper house that is somewhat livable in it's current condition. Much cheaper to renovate or tear down and rebuild. Will be zoned already and have the basic utilities.
were all soo late into the game. everyone already owns everything and it costs to play. I personally wouldn't even think about Montana unless I had $1.5m ready to drop.
In the 70s I lived in the Flathead valley and noticed the influx of California. Spotted Owl hoax helped kill the booming lumber industry. Once I foolishly told a buddy, " I can't believe you paid 10,000 for those 40 acres.".
Depends, but usually "split estate" in that someone else owns the mineral rights to your property. The rights were often retained by railroads or whoever originally owned the land after settlement.
Don’t stop while your driving through the Indian reserves it’s not safe and the data shows me lots of rabies cases in that area not the greatest location.
I heard Montana is beautiful. People should move where they want if they want to and have means. Its obvious theres not many humans and great to know info. and what to expect moving to old living. Why does Mike live there then??
Im wanting to buy a acre of land in montana with running water at least...is that possible ? Somewhere in the rural area/countryside away from main roads n such
Any thoughts on all those affordable Granite county parcels near the ghost town? Not for primary residence. I’m about 3-4 hours South, nothing affordable with trees in East Idaho.
I just want to buy some land by a river and in a nice pine tree forest and build a little log cabin where I can live with my dog, would that be possible? Also I want to live somewhere near a small town so not Bozeman
Thanks for the information! Question for you,what is the price sq.ft for modular home! We are looking at building a 703 sq.ft home with a 24 x 24 garage connected to home! Any info would be helpful we have talk to builders and got price of 250 sq.ft
I’m Francis Tan watching from Kuching Sarawak Borneo islands next to Indonesia . I hope someday soon I personally will definitely be visiting montana lands as my second home .
This is just basic stuff for any state. Every state has unique things. Montana isn’t any different. Not sure why this is anything special. Arkansas is different than Utah which is different than South Carolina.
Hi!! buddy has been a long time since I washed some of the videos. We haven't forgotten about you. Anyway, we still thinking about moving to Montana...:-) We have a Motor Coach so we are all set to visit there for a couple of days. Keep up the good looks...lol
@@johannaaaa cramped,crowded,overpriced,low wages for locals and lack of housing,lots of California yuppies there. It's a shame what happened to Bozeman.
I wouldn't buy land there, it is beautiful but the state and Govenment own most of it. Thats not freedom its a shame. Thats why I live in Texas. If the Govenment takes land in Texas they have the auction it off. The way it should be in a free country. Other than that Montana is a beautiful state.
depends on the county in Montana I noticed some are more predatory then others. Texas there saying it’s going blue 100% percent in 6 years you got more of a problem then a Montana resident.hahahaha
Looking at Montana from Florida, specifically for the most Republican area that’s very white and very safe for beautiful daughters, has average property price of 500k and fully armed society. No libertarian twigs and no hipsters and no Russians. I am a Latvian, looking for a free space to live, without nonsense, without communism, nice mountains in the back, to be amongst sane people with reasonable wealth we ourselves contribute to community we go to. Thanks
This video was suppose to be informative, it's more like "Stay the hell out of our state", any moron buying property would know about land covenants, water and mineral rights etc.
People often are not that well informed, and DO NOT do their homework. Many will go somewhere and change it if they can. Yes, many feel other people should stay out of their state because they value their lifestyle as it is. It is a matter of respect to not do so, which some have absolutely none; so they try to change other areas.
Great video - I started my off grid Montana A frame a couple years ago and the information you provided in this video is spot on for people wanting to do the same. Another point of advice I would add is make sure you are confident in where your property lines are before purchasing, don't take someones word for it that can't he held accountable.
Always use a title company...always
Just collect rain water, have an outhouse, and a wood stove and live off grid
Yup
But you still need land with some kind of shelter.
I can tell you’re not from montana
@@Sharkdog11b yeah but I'm in Montana now, learning a lot. It's dryer where I am but you can use the snow and melt that.
@@bestvideosthereare I’m with ya but it’s allot of work. Not a bad idea if you’re willing tho. I do like where your heads at. You can do about anything with the right work ethic
Problem with buying a ranch is that land is no longer valued based on production potential. Far from it. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure you'll need to have a BIIIGG nest egg or a nice sugar mamma. I would happily buy a few hundred acres, set up some corrals and live in a trailer if I could make money on hay and cows.
Serious question: If you can't master a garden in the back of your home what makes you think you can handle a ranch ?
Mike is correct on many things except one deterent is the local city government that is a joke and will cost you much more to build then expected. If you want 2000 sq ft home built it will cost your over $500k to build with land included and probably one year to build.Prices are insane in Bozeman. The lot I purchased in 2011 for $40k now goes for $200k. Wait and let the market correct.
It won't....this is the great reset. Good luck our there but private property ownership is being slowly abolished.
@@babymoon5282 SO WHEN THEY ARE SAYING YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE VERY HAPPY, IT'S ALL TRUE THEN!!🤷♂️🤦♂️🥴🥴
Rich people owning everything.
Bozeman is 9 months of winter (-25) and 3 months of guests. Building is out of control in Bozeman and they are slowly killing a wonderful place. Greedy builders are selling 800-900sq ft condos for $500k and taxes have almost doubled. Summer is a zoo of tourists and people that think petting a Bison is ok. There is a lot to see and do just with a lot more people.
It's called growth. Happening all across the country. You should see the rise in prices here in Washington State.
Yeah I would love to live there. Leave the Bison alone, on a patch of land large enough to see my neighbor, scream how ugly his wife is and not hear me. In a 2 bed shack. No need for over development.
This is why I left 40 years ago, 9 months of winter, 1 of spring, summer and fall. I could have gotten rich selling Yellow Basin Property 5 to 20 acre plots.
@@swirvinbirds1971 nah it's people leaving California. They are going to another city and it's going to change what Montana is all about.
Yes its a disaster..lived in Boze 6 yrs n left..but..going back to Montana in March..just not Bozeman
March 21, 2022 we are moving to Bozeman from Pennsylvania. We are renting a house for now with plans to buy a house or maybe even purchase land and build within 8-12 months.
I have to say the town I live in has no zoning( covenants?means contracts)
I dug my own spring ,built my home, barn , woodshed, animal shelters and a half mile of road to access it.
Sounds like y'all in Montana have it kind of rough... I mean... H-O-A....?
how can anyone even say that and freedom in the same sentance?
What town do you live in?
@@stylereline4457 i live on lands called East Albany, in the county of Orleans
Every state is gonna have an HOA. Doesn’t mean we don’t have freedom. We have the freedom to stay as far from an HOA as anyone else.
And Vermont isn’t so free my friend.
@@finleythegolden2909 tru'dat nid8ba, tru'dat
Though infested with the 'State of Vermont' U.S.INC franchise, and relegated to a Vermontland model by the blueblood scion, these lands are productive, the water still sweet.
This is as good a footing as any to remind the interlopers of the limitations upon their power guaranteed by the Vermont Constitution, and the UCC.
looking to buy land for my farm/dog and animal care business... and keeping my home on the land as well. I have family in bozeman now, and I am just looking for my forever place.
Basically each town has a certain age group, hamilton is for more rich, old retired folks. Stevensville I for the middle aged adults who wanna explore. Helena & Missoula are for the teenagers or exited people who want city in a country. Sula is litterly just camp grounds. Also *EVERYTHING* is Huckleberry. Huckleberry coffee, Huckleberry candy, Huckleberry donuts, Huckleberry icecream, Huckleberry bread, ALL OF IT. Also schools in hamilton suck
Damn you summed it all up and just spit it all out 😭😂😅😅
Good luck...living in central florida we are already a shadow of a former great place to live. Its heartbreaking what progress has done to my home. Crime, taxes and traffic is what we have now. Used to be cattle country now its nothing.
I moved to Texas from FL and it's the same thing in East Texas
Amen
Obt rocks 😅😅
Isn't buying and holding land a pretty good investment?
It depends, this video is right on, be super careful "always".
DONT TRY TO CHNAGE MONTANA, AMEN
God Bless MONTANA...Heaven on Earth...what's this I'm hearing about Boz-Angeles, DON"T let them do it brother..remember if you give them an inch they will take a mile !!! Once they infiltrate your local Governments then it's all over..they will RUIN your lifestyles.
We are dealing with that now. Two neighbors want to police a road that they have no rights to police. This isn't going to work out for them.
Good ideas. I was looking for insight into deep pocket people pricing out locals, just like New York city and a lot of "desirable" places.
Local driven out by land prices, never been able to afford any of my own. Rental costs removed all capital I had or could have had. But the local owns the rental and the developers are local and the land hoarders are local so... unless your on the inside with these land owners you have no chance of a reasonable land cost to even get started. Rich out of state folks retiring move here and snatched up everything all of it. All that remains are the hoarders and the out of staters who own their vacation house rented out on air b nb and don't participate in the economy at all instead drain the avaliable electric and gas to head their empty vacation homes. Rediculis.
Good timing on this topic.
Glad you think so!
I’ve been thinking of moving out west to Montana Idaho or Wyoming for a few years now. Hopefully in the next 18 months to 2 years I’ll make the move. Probably leaning towards Wyoming for the moment.
Prices in Wyoming are better than Montana. The issue is that it’s very windy and barren. If you want practically no people Wyoming might be the place for you however only a million people in Montana in a state 2.5x the size of Florida makes it pretty uninhabited.
Nothing set in stone at the moment. I’d say the one big advantage I’ve seen so far is the state tax. Obviously that can change but you have to look at it that over a 20 year period you can spend an extra $100-200k and the taxes basically pay for it. If everything is equal between properties. I’ll admit that I’ve only been to Wyoming. Spent a week in Bridger National Forrest and loved it. I’m just in the beginning stages of getting information.
@@bbkyjohnson is there sales tax there ?
There is 4%. Here in Ohio I believe we are around 7%. It also says Montana has no sales tax.
I’d rather pay 4% sales tax than income tax. In Hawai’i we have 4.716% (Honolulu) and high property & income tax.
So in other words do your research and don’t buy things blindly?
Wish i would have bought in Montana when this video came out :). Prices have tripled since
Why are there so many large ranches for sale in Montana? Something is going on.
Bozeman was my least favorite city in Montana after staying in MT and traveling all over for a month.
Its beautiful..but the ppl.. and tourists and housing ugh.. lived there 5 yrs n going back up in march but not boze
Thank you.
I have been searching recently.
I would love to connect with u.
Give me a call!
I'm kind of new to this. But what is a 4x4 that he talks about getting at the Toyota dealership?
He's saying to call the Toyota dealership to rent a 4 wheel drive truck to get to the properties because cars bottom out on the dirt/gravel roads.
@@edlynnporter7519 oh okay thank you so much
Hey Mike, great video! Do you just stick to the Bozeman area of Montana or know all parts of the state?
I've found, that unless you're a multi-millionaire, or a professional builder/contractor, it almost never makes sense financially to buy land. This seems true across the United States. Too many people think building is cheaper than buying, but that's just not the case.
You're always better going with a fixer upper house that is somewhat livable in it's current condition. Much cheaper to renovate or tear down and rebuild. Will be zoned already and have the basic utilities.
id say it would depend on what you plan on building what material being used and have the other things like power hook up
No depends on zoning buy no convents no HOA no ordinances were you can camp till the build is done be it one year or 5 years or 10 years.
were all soo late into the game. everyone already owns everything and it costs to play.
I personally wouldn't even think about Montana unless I had $1.5m ready to drop.
GOOD INFO THANK YOU
Great Video, I've been looking into the Wolfs Creek Area..
Very rugged n remote
Wow, what incredible information. Thank you so much!
Arlee Mt.is Super safe and in Lake County, Missoula Mt is close by. Diamond in the rough. Has the coldest ,Sweetest water in the Nation.
All GOD's Country out there..KEEP the CITY people OUT !!! I'm old enough to see this type of infiltration change EVERYTHING...
Arlee is not safe anymore from what I understand
I’m moving to Montana!
So you wouldn't advise buying ten acres of undeveloped land, even if we intend to move onto it quickly?
In the 70s I lived in the Flathead valley and noticed the influx of California. Spotted Owl hoax helped kill the booming lumber industry. Once I foolishly told a buddy, " I can't believe you paid 10,000 for those 40 acres.".
Well I guess your buddy is doing well now. Good for him.
I love the mantra!
Really want to move out
How much is land there 5 acres or so?
How does having ownership of land with mineral claims on them work? Do claim owners lease the mineral rights from the landowner, or the state, or BLM?
Depends, but usually "split estate" in that someone else owns the mineral rights to your property. The rights were often retained by railroads or whoever originally owned the land after settlement.
Has a Montana resident on the other side of Montana a small town called colstrip and it’s kinda flat but it’s super hilly
Don’t stop while your driving through the Indian reserves it’s not safe and the data shows me lots of rabies cases in that area not the greatest location.
Hey! Do you have a website? 🙂
I heard Montana is beautiful. People should move where they want if they want to and have means. Its obvious theres not many humans and great to know info. and what to expect moving to old living. Why does Mike live there then??
As a Canadian, I find the comments hilarious about how cold Montana is
Yep, reading their comments you'd think Montana is the only cold weather state.
Great information, thank you for sharing.
Glad it was helpful Matt!
Golf courses in Montana?
All messed up now, used to be a bad ass state.
Im wanting to buy a acre of land in montana with running water at least...is that possible ? Somewhere in the rural area/countryside away from main roads n such
Nope
No. Minimum lot size usually 20 acres.
I am one these people that want to move to Montana. What does it mean when they say the property has X amount of property deeded?
Lots of land has conservative attachments, water rights, etc.
Straw..
Can’t live outside cities in Montana without a big suitcase full of cash. Big sky country also is heavy on the big brother crap.
What's going on there with the big brother crap?
@@johnnyjames6283 I believe "big brother crap" means police/sheriff/ state troopers.
To keep you safe
Hey Mike,
Do you have a link to land for sale that has no hoa and would be buildable?
shoot us an email at bozeman@realagentnow.com and we can make that happen!
Any thoughts on all those affordable Granite county parcels near the ghost town? Not for primary residence. I’m about 3-4 hours South, nothing affordable with trees in East Idaho.
Idaho is expensive
5:25 HELL YEAH! 😍💕🐄
I just want to buy some land by a river and in a nice pine tree forest and build a little log cabin where I can live with my dog, would that be possible? Also I want to live somewhere near a small town so not Bozeman
Small towns can be dangerous
This video saved me a lot of headache
Thanks for the information! Question for you,what is the price sq.ft for modular home! We are looking at building a 703 sq.ft home with a 24 x 24 garage connected to home! Any info would be helpful we have talk to builders and got price of 250 sq.ft
I am from California. No convence is the only way. It is beautiful.
Hope you have deep pockets if you want to be free in Montana on your own property. Freedom isn’t free or affordable for the average person here.
I am only there so I can be there for First Contact with the Vulcans.
I’m Francis Tan watching from Kuching Sarawak Borneo islands next to Indonesia . I hope someday soon I personally will definitely be visiting montana lands as my second home .
Fairly smart
Talk about cold in winter.....you better be tough...!!!!
This is just basic stuff for any state. Every state has unique things. Montana isn’t any different. Not sure why this is anything special. Arkansas is different than Utah which is different than South Carolina.
Ill buy all the Montana. The land, the sky, the water and make disneyland out of it😮
You look like one of my old sergeants. God loves the infantry.
what is worse than a lawyer
Hi!! buddy has been a long time since I washed some of the videos. We haven't forgotten about you. Anyway, we still thinking about moving to Montana...:-)
We have a Motor Coach so we are all set to visit there for a couple of days. Keep up the good looks...lol
You are the best
I’m so very interested in buying some raw land in Montana in a year or two. Is building a homestead in the woods allowed there?
Who cares about a well is there any zoning laws?
Real estate salespeople give me gas! 😆
50k to pound a pipe into the ground? Lol what
I love so many reasons not to be a settler. SMH. Good video. Keep the city folk out of the State.
good information
Can u please send me info on your homes, ideas estimate costs etc. website? If in description sorry using screen reader
Bozeman? You mean BozeAngeles...
Why do you say that? Genuine question
@@johannaaaa cramped,crowded,overpriced,low wages for locals and lack of housing,lots of California yuppies there. It's a shame what happened to Bozeman.
@@tomjoad2882 CA ultra-liberals with communist-like ideals.
Liberals from CA moving in and forcing their liberal beliefs on everyone . Trust fund baby
I wouldn't buy land there, it is beautiful but the state and Govenment own most of it. Thats not freedom its a shame. Thats why I live in Texas. If the Govenment takes land in Texas they have the auction it off. The way it should be in a free country. Other than that Montana is a beautiful state.
depends on the county in Montana I noticed some are more predatory then others.
Texas there saying it’s going blue 100% percent in 6 years you got more of a problem then a Montana resident.hahahaha
Hahahahah only makes me want to buy a ranch MORE
Catch freaking rain water
Stay out of montana
Looking at Montana from Florida, specifically for the most Republican area that’s very white and very safe for beautiful daughters, has average property price of 500k and fully armed society. No libertarian twigs and no hipsters and no Russians. I am a Latvian, looking for a free space to live, without nonsense, without communism, nice mountains in the back, to be amongst sane people with reasonable wealth we ourselves contribute to community we go to. Thanks
Preserve white culture.
I am brown person looking for similar freedoms and no nonsense so don't count us all out. 😊
@@mrindia1 You know there is no peace even amongst you. Please let us be
Awesome
Montana is full
Literally nothing useful in this video. Yeah, look into property rights, just like everyone who buys land should. Amazing.
Smart buyers look into a lot more than "Property Rights". People do not do what they should very often in reality, they learn the hard way.
This video was suppose to be informative, it's more like "Stay the hell out of our state", any moron buying property would know about land covenants, water and mineral rights etc.
People often are not that well informed, and DO NOT do their homework. Many will go somewhere and change it if they can. Yes, many feel other people should stay out of their state because they value their lifestyle as it is. It is a matter of respect to not do so, which some have absolutely none; so they try to change other areas.
Gotta love the racism on youtube.
STOP SAYING YOU KNOW to end every sentence. Your info is good but it's un listenable with all the you knows.
It could be how they talk don’t bust balls . Western mass people say hey after all there words it’s weird but area oriented. Probably offend them
You re already wanting c o n t r o l ?
Stay away