Real Madrid did win the Premier League this season, let's be serious now. Premier League is a Joke compared to the Champions League. I mean any top 5 in la Liga would have a chance in the Premier League. Leicester City won the Premier League, for fuck's sake. Do I need to say more?
This is how vanity fair looks like: *Henry:* I moved to Barca just because I realized that winning UCL trophy is impossible in Arsenal shirt. His answer: EPL *Carragher:* All my (professional) life I tried to win EPL but it was just impossible and I won UCL in my first final. His answer: UCL *Richards:* I managed to collect 5 appearances in UCL. His answer: EPL So logic, isn’t it?
@@CHAZZ08 she’s literally asking a subjective question. There’s no objective answer to that unless using a computer, which can be considered objective… maybe. But that is even considered subjective, due to someone programming the computer to collect data on certain aspects of football, which may not necessarily show the aspect of “difficulty.” For each man is different. He gave a great analysis. Stop being stupid.
@@ThereIsAnother Yes but there are more top teams in the cl than a league title. Take city for instance, their only competition has been liverpool, the rest are so bad its laughable but in the cl you have big teams to fight against. Also teams play their best in cl especially during the knockout stages.
Zidane won 3 UCL back to back to back and he said even la Liga is harder to win. To win in the top leagues Prem, La Liga and Germany you have to play a lot more games and be a lot more consistent less room for luck
Henry got cheated against Barcelona in 2006 by bad refereeing, fabregas, van persie, song, Walcott And Thierry himself had ‘‘em for a majority of that game. Remember good.
Exactly. If you have 38 games you can lose some because the other teams will also inevitably lose some. In the Champions League knockout stages one very bad result and you're likely done.
Real Madrid lost 4/13 in the champions league and still won it. Liverpool lost 2 last year in the premier league and never won it. So no the premier league doesn’t allow you to lose many especially nowadays when you need 90+ points most seasons
@@jamie-leeprice5621 lost 2 and drew 8. Let's tell the whole story I say. Plus Man City lost 3, so it's not like the team with the least losses wins the PL anyway
No stages make easy to players be prepared and focus but in a Spanish interview pep says that the harder thing he experience is keeping the team motivated when they are way far from the 2nd place or they are way far from the 1st place
Let me help you understand; To win the Champions League you first have to play the EPL games to secure at least 4th position, then play the best of all the other leagues in the group stages of the Champions League tournament before playing the best of the best at the knockout stages. So, which is harder? 🤔
Kinda arbitrary tbh, and that’s because like you said, teams have to place 4th or above in the EPL to play the CL, they’re intertwined to both tournaments unfortunately and these comparisons serves no purpose. Champions League - Difficulty increases as you go up the rounds EPL - Difficulty increases as game-week progresses, fatigue, injuries. Difficulty may increase if your team is fighting for top spots towards the last 10 games or a low/mid table teams faces a top EPL contender.
Crap teams can win champions league, look at Chelsea in 2012 and Liverpool in 2005, they weren’t even close too top 4 and won it, you can win it with a bit of luck, the league can’t be won with luck you have to be consistent over a whole year
@@eldarion933 Buddy the UEFA Champions League has only been around since 92’. Before that it was the European Cup. Back then it was straight knockout and didn’t have all the teams. So yes, I’m counting from 30 years because that’s how long the CHAMPION’S LEAGUE has been around.
@@elimun10 when they are the ONLY one of the English giants with that struggle, it’s safe to say that’s a specific Liverpool problem. Over the last 30 years, of Arsenal, City, Manchester United and Chelsea, Liverpool are the only club to have that hurdle, whereas EVERY year from the beginning of time, all English teams have an equally slim chance of winning the UCL despite how dominant their form is. You simply cannot say one tournament is “easier” than the other to win when they literally have a success rate of ZERO in that tournament. it’s just nonsense.
CL is harder to win because it requires luck not because of football. PL is the hardest trophy to win in club football solely because how demanding it is. You look this way, Chelsea and pool won CL but got beaten by City for PL. RM can beat City in CL because of penalties, would they be able to do it in 38 game league. Highly doubtful.
Think of it this way. To win the UCL, you first have to qualify for it, so it takes 2 seasons of work to win. Whereas Premier League, you have a shot every year.
You don’t have to win the PL to win the CL. Except for Leicester you won’t really get Burnley finishing 7th winning the PL the following year right? A silly argument
Man City have won the league 4 times in the past 5 years… they’ve never won the ucl and only been in one final. Beating Watford, Norwich, Southampton, Burnley and so on is a lot easier than beating the best teams in th world. You can lose in the prem 5 times and still win it, you lose twice in the ucl and you’re almost certainly out. I don’t even know why this is a discussion
But you can’t lose in the prem 5 times within the current era. Hell, Liverpool almost were invincibles the season that they won the prem. Also, you can’t base it off of one team. If you’re Liverpool, it is far harder to win the prem than it is to win the champions league. Just like for Chelsea, Tottenham, and arsenal. Once you get out of the group stages, anything can happen in two legs that happen consecutive weeks once every month. Neither of them can be compared tbh as they are two completely different formats of competition. And each of them is at a level of difficulty only those who have won the league can say. I trust Henry’s word.
The BEST SQUAD wins the premier league every year while THE BEST TEAM wins the champions league. Do you see the distinction? Man cities squad is x 5 the money of Liverpool’s so it should not be that hard playing Norwich Burnley and Leeds a-posed to Bayern and Madrid
These 3 have literally reinstalled my love for football brev. I grew up in the typical football loving English household but lost contact with the sport the last several years, but man these guys are making me love it again 😅
Playing man city, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham twice… plus without getting your players injured, plus to make sure they arnt fatigued, to play the amount of games they play, champions league much easier, it’s about who gets the best draws. You can get teams like porto and that shit
I'm actually astonished that firstly this is a question and secondly the amount of people that actually believe the CL is easier to win. Its seriously worrying
This whole debate started when Man City proved season after season and after spending over a billion that they don't have what it takes to be European champions.
In Premier you can lose games, you can, for example, win every game but lose to Liverpool and still being above Liverpool at the end of the season. In ULC you have to win everything, there's no space to lose against the same team twice, is you lose one leg the other one you gotta win with even a better result.
bro they are kids or just haters. you think anyone of these washed up players would say ucl is easier to win if any pl team had like 8 or 9 ucl ? imagine henry saying ucl is easier if arsenal had 12 ucl lmao. thats why i never take these clowns srsly , they are as biased and egoistical as their shitty premier league.
It's plain arrogance 😁 To conceive the very thought that a national league could be in any way harder to win than a competition in which the best teams of EVERY European League fight each other can just mean one of two things: either you don't grasp the basic rules of logic or you are simply full of shit 🤣 ... Or you were never able to win one 😇
@@jy9255 with barca, he failed to do it himself with the arsenal squad where he was the legend and would have meant much more. Had to get the help of one of the strongest squads in europe... they even went to win it a few more times without him
Every dog has his day. Plenty of occasions when someone flukes there way to a cup, sometimes a lot of luck can help someone win the league… but the true accomplishment is to win both simultaneously. That’s the true measure of greatness. To be the kings of your country and the kings of Europe.
Poor point. Pep is extraordinary at winning leagues because he can get his team to such a brilliant consistency. Unfortunately he can't seem to get his squad calm when it comes to CL games. Couldn't do it with Bayern either after everyone thought from his Barca times he was CL pioneer
Juventus has a lot much serie A (35?) but "only" 2 UCL and Milan Ac has 7 UCL cups but "only" 19 Serie A Not the same competition so difficult to say. There are most big club UCL but they must to be strong all the year in premier league with 5 big club.
Micah literally explained why the league is easier. You have 38 opportunities to redeem yourself from your errors. In UCL you only have 90 minutes or you're our.
38 opportunities? That's the same for everyone, in champions league you can get drafted against smaller teams while others have to be in a group of full top tier teams, it's injust and random unlike the premier league
@@Chris_Knight7 theres no smaller teams in the ucl knockouts. Keep in mind people were saying the second draft of the ucl knockouts was easier and this side had dortmund, Barcelona, athletic and psg. If we were to make a draft for the easier half of the prem you'd be seeing teams like burnley and luton
@@minorears5205 bro they are all in love with the prem, and rightfully so, you cannot ask any of them for an honest opinion. The cl is clearly harder since it’s the best of the best going against each other, simple as that. Saying the premier league is harder is like saying winning the euros is harder then winning the world cup.
@@lucafusillo5987 The Euros and World Cup are both Cup competitions so the World Cup is generally harder when it has most of the hard teams. The EPL is played over 38 games and over 38 games the table doesn’t lie. Arguably the last two UCL winners were not the best teams. You’d have to go back to Bayern and then the Real Madrid days when the best teams won the UCL.
@@minorears5205 bro I’m not gonna argue about something this obvious. Believe whatever you want, I’m just telling you pretty much everyone who isn’t a premier league fan (as in they support a pl team) agrees that the champions league is harder.
It’s harder to win a cup competition because you need some luck along the way. The best team doesn’t always win. But the best team always wins the league
A marathon is harder only when you don't have 20 world class players fully fit at your disposal. UCL is the hardest because it's not about what you have but what you can
Weirdly, I think I’ll take the word of the professionals who’ve competed in the competitions over the people on here telling them that they’re wrong. Especially Henry, who has won both and can provide a balanced/unbiased opinion on it. Not to mention he knows considerably more about football and both competitions and what it takes to win them than anybody on here does.
He’s delusional. It took him going to Barcelona to get a UCL, the UCL is harder. Only Prem League fanboys say this so they don’t have to cry themselves to sleep.
Exactly! Is that even a question? The best of Europe compete in ucl. Henry just dont want to admit the truth to make himself feel better about not winning ucl with Arsenal despite most of his time as player
They’re not thinking it through. Carragher is right. The champions league is the hardest. If for nothing but the fact that, you’ll have to play the premier league first, be in the top four before you can qualify to play in the champions league. And then you’re playing with other champions who went through the difficulties of their own leagues to qualify.
Prem league has the Big 7 other leagues only have 1 or 2 maybe even 3 Big teams in there league mean while Champions you Play big team every other month.
@@BanezIz doesn't stop his argument being right though. No one (bar one fluke) has done the UCL more than the league. Therefore it is harder to win the UCL.
@@gregforse2563 its cause back then only the champions of the League qualified so you had to win the League to get there and it were only knock out games as well its only changed since 1997 were they added more of course to even qualify you had to win the league now you can qualify as a fourth place thats the main reason for it
@@BanezIzthe format changed in 95 and even so you still need to be amongst the best 4 in the league to even compete for it. There's less room for luck in a league campaign but in the UCL you have to beat waaaaaay better Opposition. Beating ipswich town and sheffield wednesday is not going to comparable to coming up against ronaldinho, eto, messi, deco, iniesta etc. in a Champions league final
If winning the premiere league is harder, then ManU would’ve been the best team on earth. It is an unfair question because not every team plays in both, and not every team would bring their A game while facing off against other local teams.
I mean the premier league is the hardest league in the world, this is going off statistically speaking as well, premier league teams on average have more more money to spend too, with the second hardest league being Italy, then Spain, and this is talking of an average difficulty.
@@TribekaGaming Bro what r u on, Italy is the second hardest league, I agree with Prem but from your comments, it sounds like u don’t even watch other leagues, right now theres no team capable of winning UCL in the Italy n ur saying it’s the second hardest? Come men get to your senses
@@gtk9547 yeah you have no idea what’s you’re talking about, I said the average quality of The league, not if one single team can win it all, the average team in the prem and Italy roll on the Spanish French and German league
@@TribekaGaming then what happened that eintracht frankfurt won europa league vs those other english teams and barcelona?..u dont know what u talking about
Let's take a look at these "champion's league" teams shall we? Maccabi Haifa Viktoria Plzeñ Club Brugge Dinamo Zagreb Celtic Shaktar Donesk Just because you can get easy qualifications from dog shit leagues doesn't make them good teams😂😂👍
Exactly so imagine how difficult it is to win the league as one of those teams compared to winning the champions league as the best team in your country
@@JamesHussain82 I do think leagues are harder to win than cups. But that is a conversation on which format is harder to win. Mind you it's also harder to loose in a league format as well. But as competitions go the UCL simply just has better teams so obviously its going to be a harder competition.
Every year is different. When Barca , Madrid , Milan we’re all in their prime it was harder to win Champions League. When Man city, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool are all in their top form, Prem is harder.
First you need to be able to win PL just to be a CL contender. Than you have to play the best teams in Europe and you must play very good, have luck and everything else. And maybe just maybe you'll win CL. CL is the hardest to win.
@@t.d.2016 Ahh yeah my team did that how could I forgot. I tho someone gonna say Liverpool I can't remember their pos in PL 😂 But yah, newly promoted team can win PL tho.
@@user-jq7di9pz8m So they’ve won 1 more league than champions league in that space of time and you use making the final as another argument without saying how many times they came 2nd in the league. United have had success in the champions league over them 30 years as well but nowhere near the level of success in the league. Arsenal definitely found the league easier, city are an absolute shambles in the champions league and dominate the league
Carra is right here. There are many teams who have won their domestic leagues, but have never won the champions league. It's the nature of knockout competition coupled with the fact that in the Champions league you're playing the top teams from all over Europe, not just the top teams in your league.
@JSmellerM for any one particular team's point of view, there is only one domestic champion per year- the champion of the league they are in. So from the team point of view, there are not more domestic champions yearly than European champions. For what you're saying to make a difference, you'd have to be randomly selecting a European team. In that case, the chance that the team you select will have won its league will be greater than the chance that the team you select will have won the champions league.
The League rewards consistency. You can lose sometimes and make up for it. As long as you win the majority of games then it's not a problem. In the CL one loss can get you out of the tournament. Not just a loss, you even have to be careful about how many goals you concede. Having a stable defense is very important. Once the group stage ends you will progressively see less goals as teams get more and more careful. Uli Hoeneß said it nicely: "the league title is the most honest. In the CL you can be the best team yet still not win because of one bad game or unlucky day". I'm not a player so I can't say for sure. But I think the majority of players, managers etc. would agree with Hoeneß's statement.
I don't think that's a fair argument to make and I'm a Madrid fan. Liverpool have won more UCLs (2005-2019) than EPL because it was named something else before so those titles prior don't count as EPL, with that argument, you can come to the conclusion with your logic that PL is more difficult than UCL in that case.
It’s doesn’t really, we all know it’s the UCL, we’ve seen a lot of players switch teams just to have a shot at winning it, who ever says the EPL is just biased.
CL is hard only because of the luck involved and the quality of teams. League is harder because of literally everything i.e the consistency required,the umpteen number of park the bus teams that you'll have to face,injuries etc. People who say CL instantly and then shame others for picking Pl dont think logically at all,they dont understand what harder to win means,they assume that it has to be CL just because teams are are of better quality
Cup competitions can be just as much about luck as ability. We see better teams lose time and time again in cup competitions. In a quality league you have to be consistent and get the better of every team. You can't avoid a tough draw in a league and you have to be consistent home and away. It takes much more hard work to win a league. Thierry and Micah are right.
To start… you have to qualify to a UCL, and then you think about winning it. Thus the reason why team in the PL want to be top 4. Forget about winning, priority is top 4.
The PL argument makes sense and you have to be a genuine moron not to get it. To put it simply, the better team will ALWAYS win the pl. 38 games eliminate variance and teams min max to gain as much points as possible. The CL has a lot less games and so there is variance worse teams benefit from. The PL is simply harder to win if youre not the "best team"
Also your claim about oil tycoons is hilarious. Chelsea won 2 UCLs in 8 years. I also do not see how Real Madrid is different from these oil tycoons considering their shady spanish bank deals
@@youngcitybandit The point was if it was easier to win the UCL than the PL, why have city never win the UCL? If it was city who won the UCL, the pundits would talk on end about how the UCL is at the pinnacle of all football competition.
@@sokhotinlallhungdim4109 did we ignore that a PL team won the last UCL while another PL team made a final? Both werent man city. Would you say the chelsea or tottenham that beat man city were better than them overall? No... Teams treat cups differently. Its a different game in terms of tactics and mentality which is why good teams often fail.
Yah for sure Madrid would trade the 14 champions just to get a Single premier league... City are doing everything to just get that champions league and would trade the league for it any day.
@@carlosramigaming464 that’s why city have won 4 PL in the last 5 years. That’s why United don’t have more CL than leagues. If you lose 5 games in the League who can still win it, if you lose 2-3 you are out. The only people who say CL are the ones that their team hasn’t won the competition, if they won it they would know and prefer the CL
The Champions League is significantly harder imo. The opposition is the best teams in the other countries. The leagues have a lot more games which means that even though you fuck up a part, and have a losing streak, you can still end up winning it at the end. Meanwhile the UCL is a lot deadlier. Your opponents have less chances to bottle to help recover from a possible losing streak. A game lost in the league might make the difference, but it's usually rare. In the Champions League, you've a foot outside the door.
Exactly my point. Facing world class players all over Europe in a tournament is not easy. You can see when ever England plays Euros, it speaks for it self that there are equally if not better top players out of Premier League
Because you put all your effort into the league. When you’re like Real Madrid, the only team in laliga last year that was ever going to get the title, you can rest players and not worry about the league as much, put all your focus on the champions league. Whereas man city have been fighting for the title against other teams for years now, so they can’t put 100% focus on champions league
Absolutely retarded argument. If the Premier League somehow had some form of knockout element along the way, you'd see surprise winners a lot more than the CL. LFC have been domestic nobodies your entire life, you should respect the PL more.
If City said "screw the League, only the UCL this year" there would be uproar from the few City fans. In England at least the EPL comes first - especially since it makes more money.
Depends. Micah’s case is impossible, because he was almost always left out in Champions League matches, but managed to win Premier League. Jamie played for Liverpool, won UCL for Liverpool, and there’s a lot of pressure for EPL, as players and teams had (and still have) an equivalent level in this league. As for Henry, he won UCL, but never with Arsenal. He had a drought of UCL in his time with his no-UCL favorite team, but managed to win EPL. Basically, it depends on the times you played EPL, the strength of the rivals, the pressure above you, etc.
More games, just makes it a lot more about squad rotation and whoever has the larger squad with the most quality back ups usually wins. It doesn’t automatically make the actual task any harder 😂
Ikr right, they’re acting like only one team is facing rotation problems but in reality, every team is going through the same squad debt issues, so it doesn’t really make any difference the amount of games you play.
@@blaqcvts So you are telling me to win the CL you need to have 3/4 good games….. Even though just to get through the group stages you have to play 6. Come on now.
@@seanohare3509 no,you dont need to be good in the group stages to go through. In the 19-20 season,there were only 1 or 2 games in the group stages where we truly outplayed our opponent,yet we finished second. Im pretty villareal didnt outplay their opponents more than 2 or 3 times in this cl campaign yet they were one fpot away from a CL final.
Hardly. There’s many mid-table Prem teams who could easily make it out of the group stage in the UCL. Just because a team is considered the best team in their region doesn’t mean they’re good lol Even Leicester made it to the quarter finals of the UCL and that same season they finished 12th in the league.
@@elimun10 this. Its so important. Leicester finished 12th and made it to the qf. Villareal finished 6th or 7th this season but because of pure luck and park the bus tactics ,they reached the semi finals and were so close to reaching the final. Spurs finished 4th in the PL and reached the CL final
That’s because the top teams in Europe in one competition means that one team can’t keep winning UCL(besides Real Madrid). There’s a major luck factor in UCL because you can get an easy group, easy round of 16, easy quarter finals and somehow make it to the final like Liverpool. Premier league you have to be consistent over 38 games so that’s extremely hard to do in the hardest league in the world. You can’t compare the worth of Premier league and UCL because they are both essential to be a successful English team or have a good season.
@@defrenkg814 Bro PL only has top 3 hard teams to face and if ur City, Liverpool, or Chelsea, then only 2, u can afford to lose twice to both of those teams n still win the Prem while if u do that in the UCL, ur knocked out, why don’t u ask Henry himself, he won the Prem but couldn’t win UCL so he had to run away and go join a goated Barcelona team in order to win it.
@@gtk9547 difference is one is a marathon and one is a sprint you have to beat teams consistently and alot more factors go into winning the pl than the champions league😂
@@carlosramigaming464 yes but consistency against worse opponents isn't good. That is just expected. If you do well in prem but consistently do badly in UCL then you can't say prem is easier as more games.
@@eldarion933 and Henry won both where Micah and Carragher just won one each, so Henry had the upper hand on which is tougher as what the question was asked.
@@eldarion933 nice job using that same braindead shitty argument everywhere. City have the worst luck of any team. They lost fair and square to monaco,then next season they completely outplayed liverpool at home and ended up losing,next season they destroyed spurs but spurs were given a handball goal and citys last minute goal was canceled out,next season sterling missed a chance from 2 yards and minutes later ederson gifted lyon a 3rd goal. Next season they reached the CL final and pep decided to not play a DM. Finally,this season they reached the semi and were 4 minutes from the final when onexplicably real scored 2. Most of these correlate to luck and pep being dumb af,not to the CL being hard
As a Manchester City fan myself I say Champions League. Micah should really say the same himself because look how hard it’s been for us to win it and yet we seem to roll out league titles for fun under Pep
You only have to beat Barcelona or whatever 3rd place team once each and draw the other two matches and win the rest that they should win. La Liga is a farmers league.
@@CaptainCreampie69 is that why city is continuously getting 90 points like prime Barca or Madrid? you act like prem is the only league where smaller clubs defeat top teams. what competition does man City have? Liverpool and just arsenal this year
@@CaptainCreampie69 Zidane won more champions league than Laliga titles though. so he was right saying that😂 And the Premier League is Manchester City vs the everybody else. That's the definition of Farmer's league right there.
When you're competing in the ucl you are competing against the best in Europe, when you're competing for the pl or any other league for that matter- you're just competing against the best teams in your own country
I would say UCL is harder, simply because you need to play well across teams with different styles, travel to different countries and climates, be on form and mentally prepared for sudden death matches at all times, and luck needs to be on your side to survive. For PL, while no mean feat, you can technically survive with a bigger squad and also have familiarity over the teams you play with, in an environment that you know. Of course consistency makes PL harder but I would say it is at least within your hands, whereas you can get beaten in the UCL easily with just one off night / tactical error.
Nowadays the prem is a lot harder to win that a UCL as the margin for error has become so much smaller. Before winning the UCL was always the tougher because of the sheer quality of the big teams. The big teams nowadays are filled in with average players with good tactics.
It's actually a hard question. In Champions League you are facing the toughest quality opponents but for only 13 games. In Premier League you are facing less tough opponents but for 38 games. I think you could say that to win Premier League you have to play good consistently but for Champions League you have to play great with nerves of steel when the moment comes.
Man City is the best illustration for this question: they won PL 10 times & failed UCL 10 times in a row while being bought by petrodollars so obviously UCL is harder
People forget as well you have less preparation and it’s random who you play in the champions league while in the premier league you have a list of all the teams you are going to play
It depends on your viewpoint… for example the League is won mostly by the strongest team, as in more often than not the most consistent team will win the league… In reverse the champions league winner is not necessarily the strongest team, it comes down to a lot of factors, injuries, form, ref decisions etc… so if you’re the dominant team in your league… the harder tournament is the UCL… if you’re a weaker team in your league the harder tournament is the league cause you’ve got a better chance at winning the UCL
Oh another dude who thinks hes being smart when in reality hes being utterpy stupid. Only 1 of citys last 5 CL exits have occurred because the other team outplayed them. The other 4 times were VAR,pep being dumb along with sterling missing a sitter,pep being dumb again,and real madrids unbelievable luck.
@@elimun10 madrid won 3 league titles and 5 UCL in 8 years does that make Champions league a farmers league for real madrid and la liga more tougher than PL?
The level of difficulty against opponents definitely means CL. We also can't forget that two EPL champions in the last decade did so in seasons when they weren't in Europe (Leicester City in 2015/16, and Chelsea in 2016/17), so I'd say those extra 13 games refute the point about the 38-game EPL season.
The Champions League features the top four teams from every European country, typically showcasing the crème de la crème in the finals. Occasionally, smaller teams, either through luck or a standout season, make it, making the Champions League even more challenging.
@@emil2683 CL is harder to win than PL ask Pep he would tell you, and don't take reporters opinions even if they were good players once, they only care about views and controversy for now, thats their new job
CL brings pressure, because if you lose you know you get no chance to progress. These “one off” games are 90 minutes just like the league game but you play with added pressure and against the best in europe. To be the best you must beat the best. There’s many league winners in a year but only 1 CL winner. CL >>> PL
@@FatTodd exactly people just see the stats, they don’t understand mentality and perseverance. That’s why teams like Man City tend to bottle it, they’re amazing & im sure they’ll win one in the future, but there’s a reason they won like 6 PLs and have only gone to one CL final.
@@hboss7039 yep, not everyday tactics and tikitaka waka waka and gaygay pressing. It’s annoying seeing all these nerds get gassed over these systems that are removing the individuality in the game and making it feel more robotic. Why does no one understand or rate man and game management? Old school football, stay in the game with experienced cool heads, wear the opposition down, picking your moments to strike and when to time the subs. Also integrating youth without harming the hierarchy - All these things matter just as much. With pep and klopp, the quality of their squads and their system is why they dominate the prem so much, but when they match teams on their level they have no real plan b. Bruce lee said be water…
Well it's the UCL. You gotta perform well in the EPL just to qualify. So it's even hard to qualify for. But the EPL is still the more illustrious trophy. Leagues by their nature produce the best team of the season. In the UCL you could be the best team, and have one bad game and your out...or lose on penalties....that in itself makes it more difficult.... there's luck involved.
@@Duckie211-l5y haha destroy? If u really watch the gameplay, real madraid got OUTPLAYED EVERY FKING GAME. they are almost like the chelsea2012. Full of Lady luck. They are not that good and not that bad, just alright. If real were to play more games with city, liverpool, they will lose more matches for sure.
Different types of competitions to win. Ones over 38 games; the other is one group stage and then knockout games. The former rewards consistency; the other staying in and peaking at the right times. UCL is the pinnacle of the European club game though.
Chelsea in 2012 finished 5th in the premier league yet won the champions league Liverpool in 2004 finished 5th in the premier league yet won the champions league Yet man city dominate the premier league and haven’t yet won the champions league Arsenal went unbeaten in the premier league and couldn’t win the champions league
Yeah but that can come down to only a few games I think every team doesn’t play the best teams all the time in champions league so Madrid might get lucky and get an English team once a tournament and it’s easier to win once rather than several times during the whole champions league tournament
Real Madrid have never won the premier league so i'd have to say that
Real Madrid wouldn’t even be top 4 in the premier league
@@lapulganaitor RM in the CL:
Chelsea ✔️
City ✔️
Liverpool ✔️
You must be trolling right? You must be.
@@botalley1595 he has to be trolling! Lmao must be a bitter Liverpool that forgot they literally have beaten the top 4 😂😂 I love it though.
Real Madrid will wish they never face Norwich City
Real Madrid did win the Premier League this season, let's be serious now. Premier League is a Joke compared to the Champions League. I mean any top 5 in la Liga would have a chance in the Premier League. Leicester City won the Premier League, for fuck's sake. Do I need to say more?
“World Cup is the easiest one to win. You are the Champion if you win 7 games”.
Micah Richardson.
It's true dummy
, 😂
It is tho it’s just rare. You’d be surprised how many players like ronaldinho would have if it was every year
Not 7 games what you on about 😂😂😂😂
@@stevemarshall3508 lmfao the ignorance in this one.
The Legendary Sir Alex Ferguson has won 13 EPL but only 2 UCL, so that's say something.
Decieveing. The format of the competition had changed since its inception. At one point if was only the Champions of each league.
If you want to win PL, your players are almost burnt out when it's time for champions league final.
You have to hit top 4 to get in to champions league. Hence, each league is harder to win.
His legendary because of that... no one calls Zidane a legendary coach
Yeah influencing the refs into swaying games his way
This is how vanity fair looks like:
*Henry:* I moved to Barca just because I realized that winning UCL trophy is impossible in Arsenal shirt. His answer: EPL
*Carragher:* All my (professional) life I tried to win EPL but it was just impossible and I won UCL in my first final. His answer: UCL
*Richards:* I managed to collect 5 appearances in UCL. His answer: EPL
So logic, isn’t it?
Is your answer supposed to be solely experience based or can they be objective?
exactly!!
@@CHAZZ08 she’s literally asking a subjective question. There’s no objective answer to that unless using a computer, which can be considered objective… maybe. But that is even considered subjective, due to someone programming the computer to collect data on certain aspects of football, which may not necessarily show the aspect of “difficulty.” For each man is different. He gave a great analysis. Stop being stupid.
they are talking about the current scene, not the one back when titi played for arsenal. There are almost no consistent top teams outside the EPL.
@@daveauburn1561have you seen the EPL this season? Almost no team has been consistent.
A league is ruthless but more forgiving than the UCL. The UCL is just ruthless. In the knockouts, you lose your out
But that means you can win CL with a weaker team. You can get lucky. Hard to do so in a league.
@@ThereIsAnother Yes but there are more top teams in the cl than a league title. Take city for instance, their only competition has been liverpool, the rest are so bad its laughable but in the cl you have big teams to fight against. Also teams play their best in cl especially during the knockout stages.
@@emmanuelasare2908that’s just not true is it 😂 premier league has a lot of quality teams, granted city have been streets ahead for a few seasons
To be fair, in the UCL you can legit win lose 3-0 then win 4-0 the next game and come out on too
@@ThereIsAnotheryou are playing the best teams in the world, you can doesn't get more stacked than that not even a WC is harder than that
Henry had to go to Barcelona to win the champions league, I’m really surprised at his answer
He was probably being sarcastic since he literally left his team to join barca for a win
100 percent
Zidane won 3 UCL back to back to back and he said even la Liga is harder to win. To win in the top leagues Prem, La Liga and Germany you have to play a lot more games and be a lot more consistent less room for luck
Henry got cheated against Barcelona in 2006 by bad refereeing, fabregas, van persie, song, Walcott And Thierry himself had ‘‘em for a majority of that game. Remember good.
@@JamaicanjeffYT just join bayern if you wanna win in germany
RM beat all 3 top teams in the PL in the UCL with a team that wasn’t supposed to get by PSG 🤣
And Chelsea done the same last season to la liga, owning both madrids...yet just scraping 4th in the prem. knockout comps are a lottery.
They was the worst team in all them games aswell yet still won.. Pl teams bottled it
Well all teams dominated them, but that's the fun thing with cl you can win with luck.
@@lloydymk2013 so then real madrid got lucky 14 times?🤦♂️😂👋
@@lloydymk2013 Chelsea beat an injured RM team last season tho
Henry: “Premier League”🤖
Henry just straight to the point 😂😂😂
He was being sarcastic lol
@@shazumia1911 he better be !!
Henry joined the team that beat him in the finals to win finally win it. Side note that Barca team was one of the best teams EVER!
@@johncortes4138 one of 2 teams who did a sixtuple Henry was part of it
He's dead wrong though.... There's no Watford to play in the Champions League....
38 games is not an added difficulty, it actually benefits you by allowing you to lose and draw some games.
Lol sure more teams in the mix and more minutes makes it easier
Exactly. If you have 38 games you can lose some because the other teams will also inevitably lose some. In the Champions League knockout stages one very bad result and you're likely done.
Real Madrid lost 4/13 in the champions league and still won it. Liverpool lost 2 last year in the premier league and never won it. So no the premier league doesn’t allow you to lose many especially nowadays when you need 90+ points most seasons
@@jamie-leeprice5621 lost 2 and drew 8. Let's tell the whole story I say. Plus Man City lost 3, so it's not like the team with the least losses wins the PL anyway
No stages make easy to players be prepared and focus but in a Spanish interview pep says that the harder thing he experience is keeping the team motivated when they are way far from the 2nd place or they are way far from the 1st place
You're meant to be up against the best teams in Europe so naturally it's the UCL.
But u can get “easy route to the final”
@@joshuawalcott5619 mention a team with an easy route to the final and won
@@hoshmendakrem1940 Bayern Munich 2020, they were easily the best team that year, no competition whatsoever.
@@joshuawalcott5619 it means every team is good… so u still need luck.. it’s easy for city to win epl..
@@bobopatchnosuke229 Bayern beat chelsea and spurs and scored 7 goals a game.. best league should not lose that bad
Let me help you understand;
To win the Champions League you first have to play the EPL games to secure at least 4th position, then play the best of all the other leagues in the group stages of the Champions League tournament before playing the best of the best at the knockout stages.
So, which is harder? 🤔
Prem
Premier league
Kinda arbitrary tbh, and that’s because like you said, teams have to place 4th or above in the EPL to play the CL, they’re intertwined to both tournaments unfortunately and these comparisons serves no purpose.
Champions League - Difficulty increases as you go up the rounds
EPL - Difficulty increases as game-week progresses, fatigue, injuries. Difficulty may increase if your team is fighting for top spots towards the last 10 games or a low/mid table teams faces a top EPL contender.
And you either have to win through 2 games against the winner of the EPL or some team that is better and knocked them out.
prem. nice try though.
“It’s harder to win the champions league when you play for English teams and it’s harder to win the prem when you play for a spanish team”
- Owen
Bro what u said don’t make no sense
@@gtk9547 Owen knows what he's talking about mate
@@gtk9547 thats the point you drip
@@gtk9547 🤣🤣🌚
@@gtk9547 actually it DOES make sense look at how many UCL has ManCity and then how many premiers has Real Madrid and Barcelona
If any English team or Henry had won the most CL, then the CL would be voted as the hardest lol
Henry is being sarcastic lol. He left arsenal for Barca so he can win champions league
Well, it is in fact harder for Real to win Premier League than CL, so they are not wrong...
If only Jamie won a premier league.
Crap teams can win champions league, look at Chelsea in 2012 and Liverpool in 2005, they weren’t even close too top 4 and won it, you can win it with a bit of luck, the league can’t be won with luck you have to be consistent over a whole year
@@reginaldkray2988 if only Micah won the UCL. But he never won it as easy as they say the UCL is
Yes, the tournament Arsenal and Manchester City have 0 of in their entire history, is easier to win 👍🏻 🤯
Flawed argument because you also have teams like Liverpool, who have won the UCL more times than the PL in the past 30 years.
@@elimun10 and 19 to 6 in history. You cant just take a random amount of years to pass your argumenr
@@eldarion933 Buddy the UEFA Champions League has only been around since 92’. Before that it was the European Cup. Back then it was straight knockout and didn’t have all the teams. So yes, I’m counting from 30 years because that’s how long the CHAMPION’S LEAGUE has been around.
@@elimun10 hahaha ofcourse bro. Every team in the world counts those 2 together when asked how many they won
@@elimun10 when they are the ONLY one of the English giants with that struggle, it’s safe to say that’s a specific Liverpool problem. Over the last 30 years, of Arsenal, City, Manchester United and Chelsea, Liverpool are the only club to have that hurdle, whereas EVERY year from the beginning of time, all English teams have an equally slim chance of winning the UCL despite how dominant their form is. You simply cannot say one tournament is “easier” than the other to win when they literally have a success rate of ZERO in that tournament. it’s just nonsense.
man city literally taked 5 seasons to win a champions league but in that five seasons they won the prem 5 times
CL is harder to win because it requires luck not because of football. PL is the hardest trophy to win in club football solely because how demanding it is.
You look this way, Chelsea and pool won CL but got beaten by City for PL. RM can beat City in CL because of penalties, would they be able to do it in 38 game league. Highly doubtful.
Better team always wins premier league but for champions league, anyone can win
@@Clairee17- there's only a few that won ucl lucky or not its the hardest competition
'taked ' is not a word . You shouldve said' took'.
@@sameep5035 well thank you for your help mate:)
Think of it this way. To win the UCL, you first have to qualify for it, so it takes 2 seasons of work to win. Whereas Premier League, you have a shot every year.
Crap comparison, you can win europa and qualify, or if your league is uncompetitive like la liga you get in every time
@@NothingSussed that’s 3 seasons then with europa 😭
You don’t have to win the PL to win the CL. Except for Leicester you won’t really get Burnley finishing 7th winning the PL the following year right?
A silly argument
Lots of amateurs don’t know that 😂
@@NothingSussed yes, you can win Europa, that's still being 2 seasons, 1 to win Europa and 1 to win UCL
Man City have won the league 4 times in the past 5 years… they’ve never won the ucl and only been in one final. Beating Watford, Norwich, Southampton, Burnley and so on is a lot easier than beating the best teams in th world. You can lose in the prem 5 times and still win it, you lose twice in the ucl and you’re almost certainly out. I don’t even know why this is a discussion
I agree. Sir Alex winning the league 13 times but only having two UCL trophies speaks volume.
Factos
But you can’t lose in the prem 5 times within the current era. Hell, Liverpool almost were invincibles the season that they won the prem. Also, you can’t base it off of one team. If you’re Liverpool, it is far harder to win the prem than it is to win the champions league. Just like for Chelsea, Tottenham, and arsenal. Once you get out of the group stages, anything can happen in two legs that happen consecutive weeks once every month. Neither of them can be compared tbh as they are two completely different formats of competition. And each of them is at a level of difficulty only those who have won the league can say. I trust Henry’s word.
The BEST SQUAD wins the premier league every year while THE BEST TEAM wins the champions league. Do you see the distinction?
Man cities squad is x 5 the money of Liverpool’s so it should not be that hard playing Norwich Burnley and Leeds a-posed to Bayern and Madrid
Over the course of 38 games its hard to fluke, Liverpool won the champions league and finished 5th.
These 3 have literally reinstalled my love for football brev. I grew up in the typical football loving English household but lost contact with the sport the last several years, but man these guys are making me love it again 😅
They have great friendly chemistry. It's nice to see
In the UCL, if you mess up in the knockout stage you're out where as the league you can loose some games and still win the premier league.
Yea playing Burnley twice is so hard....
Playing man city, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham twice… plus without getting your players injured, plus to make sure they arnt fatigued, to play the amount of games they play, champions league much easier, it’s about who gets the best draws. You can get teams like porto and that shit
Burnley stopped liverpool Anfield winning streak, and took 6 points from the top 9 this season.
I think Burnley is close to Barcelona level now days🤣,so thats say alot about the PL
@@akagaminoshanks8295 barca>>>>>>pl
@@nomemesonmangakas8571 you still live in 2010 i see 😂
I'm actually astonished that firstly this is a question and secondly the amount of people that actually believe the CL is easier to win. Its seriously worrying
This whole debate started when Man City proved season after season and after spending over a billion that they don't have what it takes to be European champions.
In Premier you can lose games, you can, for example, win every game but lose to Liverpool and still being above Liverpool at the end of the season.
In ULC you have to win everything, there's no space to lose against the same team twice, is you lose one leg the other one you gotta win with even a better result.
bro they are kids or just haters. you think anyone of these washed up players would say ucl is easier to win if any pl team had like 8 or 9 ucl ? imagine henry saying ucl is easier if arsenal had 12 ucl lmao.
thats why i never take these clowns srsly , they are as biased and egoistical as their shitty premier league.
there s nobody that thinks that, CL is where the best teams play.
It's plain arrogance 😁 To conceive the very thought that a national league could be in any way harder to win than a competition in which the best teams of EVERY European League fight each other can just mean one of two things: either you don't grasp the basic rules of logic or you are simply full of shit 🤣
... Or you were never able to win one 😇
easy UCL… anyone else who says no just hasn’t had their team win☠️
Henry won it in 2008/09. Cry more
@@jy9255 with barca, he failed to do it himself with the arsenal squad where he was the legend and would have meant much more. Had to get the help of one of the strongest squads in europe... they even went to win it a few more times without him
@@mohdbahakim how does that change the fact thats hes won it. barca wanted him to join and he was a starter. also sat rio down 1 on 1 in the final 😂
A united fan here, Prem is 100% harder lmfao
Chelsea fan here and both times we've won it we were no where near top of our game sooo definitely the prem 😂
Every dog has his day. Plenty of occasions when someone flukes there way to a cup, sometimes a lot of luck can help someone win the league… but the true accomplishment is to win both simultaneously. That’s the true measure of greatness. To be the kings of your country and the kings of Europe.
Who has fluked their way to a Champions League?
@@stephen129let’s be honest about that Chelsea champions league win in 2021
These guys are clowns. You literally have man city winning the premier league 4 out of the last 5 years but can’t get a win in champions league final.
Champions league is biggest club competition and premier league is the best national league in the world
Clowns😂 you are calling football legends clowns. They probably know a lot more then some random guy who never achieved anything in football)
@@dimashniyazbekov9498 I'm sorry but micah Richards knows fuck all about football. It's clear to see
Well, if teams were not rolling over for them, they'd find harder to clinch the league
Poor point. Pep is extraordinary at winning leagues because he can get his team to such a brilliant consistency. Unfortunately he can't seem to get his squad calm when it comes to CL games. Couldn't do it with Bayern either after everyone thought from his Barca times he was CL pioneer
Yet Real Madrid has the same ucl cups than all the premier league clubs combined 🤷🏽♂️
Cool, they would still struggle in the premier league
@@youllneverknow_123 not really
@@youllneverknow_123 Premier League is overrated.
Juventus has a lot much serie A (35?) but "only" 2 UCL and Milan Ac has 7 UCL cups but "only" 19 Serie A
Not the same competition so difficult to say. There are most big club UCL but they must to be strong all the year in premier league with 5 big club.
@@youllneverknow_123 they would have the most EPL titles in history
we all know the UCL is harder to win 😂
Wtf you on
@@ItsLenz get your brain checked
@@ItsLenz how many ucl did city win last 10 years? And how many PL.
@@Chris24_ get a brain
@@eldarion933 how many prems did Liverpool win the in the last 20 years and how many ucls did they have, the argument goes the same way.
Micah literally explained why the league is easier. You have 38 opportunities to redeem yourself from your errors. In UCL you only have 90 minutes or you're our.
38 opportunities? That's the same for everyone, in champions league you can get drafted against smaller teams while others have to be in a group of full top tier teams, it's injust and random unlike the premier league
Also UCL is competing against the best teams. League is usually 1/3 is great rest is okay
@@Chris_Knight7 theres no smaller teams in the ucl knockouts. Keep in mind people were saying the second draft of the ucl knockouts was easier and this side had dortmund, Barcelona, athletic and psg. If we were to make a draft for the easier half of the prem you'd be seeing teams like burnley and luton
In no way is that what he said
In no way is that what he said
I can not believe what I’ve just heard
Well you should come around to it. Thierry Henry who basically won it all in football said the EPL.
@@minorears5205 bro they are all in love with the prem, and rightfully so, you cannot ask any of them for an honest opinion. The cl is clearly harder since it’s the best of the best going against each other, simple as that. Saying the premier league is harder is like saying winning the euros is harder then winning the world cup.
@@lucafusillo5987 The Euros and World Cup are both Cup competitions so the World Cup is generally harder when it has most of the hard teams.
The EPL is played over 38 games and over 38 games the table doesn’t lie. Arguably the last two UCL winners were not the best teams. You’d have to go back to Bayern and then the Real Madrid days when the best teams won the UCL.
@@minorears5205 bro I’m not gonna argue about something this obvious. Believe whatever you want, I’m just telling you pretty much everyone who isn’t a premier league fan (as in they support a pl team) agrees that the champions league is harder.
@@lucafusillo5987 Because more people believe it makes it true?? I trust Henry who played at Barca and loved it there over most others to be fair
It’s harder to win a cup competition because you need some luck along the way. The best team doesn’t always win. But the best team always wins the league
Spot on
Well then that makes it harder for the best team but not the second best.
🔴🌳COYR🌳🔴
A marathon is harder only when you don't have 20 world class players fully fit at your disposal. UCL is the hardest because it's not about what you have but what you can
Weirdly, I think I’ll take the word of the professionals who’ve competed in the competitions over the people on here telling them that they’re wrong. Especially Henry, who has won both and can provide a balanced/unbiased opinion on it. Not to mention he knows considerably more about football and both competitions and what it takes to win them than anybody on here does.
He’s delusional. It took him going to Barcelona to get a UCL, the UCL is harder. Only Prem League fanboys say this so they don’t have to cry themselves to sleep.
Exactly! Is that even a question? The best of Europe compete in ucl. Henry just dont want to admit the truth to make himself feel better about not winning ucl with Arsenal despite most of his time as player
They’re not thinking it through. Carragher is right. The champions league is the hardest.
If for nothing but the fact that, you’ll have to play the premier league first, be in the top four before you can qualify to play in the champions league.
And then you’re playing with other champions who went through the difficulties of their own leagues to qualify.
And you have to play each teams different style of football depending on which league they play in at National level
Thats what iam saying, like playing leeds and nottimgham forest is harder than playing real madrid, napoli,bayern,inter
Prem league has the Big 7 other leagues only have 1 or 2 maybe even 3 Big teams in there league mean while Champions you Play big team every other month.
Ronaldo Won Only Two Laliga And 5 UCLs With Madrid! WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?😎😊
I mean one can argue that winning cups are more luck-related than the pure grind and quality of leagues.
That's absurd. Carragher explained it correctly.
Carragher never won the League of course he will say a Title he actually won
@@BanezIz doesn't stop his argument being right though. No one (bar one fluke) has done the UCL more than the league. Therefore it is harder to win the UCL.
@@gregforse2563 its cause back then only the champions of the League qualified so you had to win the League to get there and it were only knock out games as well its only changed since 1997 were they added more of course to even qualify you had to win the league now you can qualify as a fourth place thats the main reason for it
@@BanezIzthe format changed in 95 and even so you still need to be amongst the best 4 in the league to even compete for it. There's less room for luck in a league campaign but in the UCL you have to beat waaaaaay better Opposition. Beating ipswich town and sheffield wednesday is not going to comparable to coming up against ronaldinho, eto, messi, deco, iniesta etc. in a Champions league final
Real Madrid won more UCL titles in the last 10 years (5 titles) than La Liga titles (3 titles) they won in the same period
If winning the premiere league is harder, then ManU would’ve been the best team on earth. It is an unfair question because not every team plays in both, and not every team would bring their A game while facing off against other local teams.
Need a bit of luck to win cl
I mean the premier league is the hardest league in the world, this is going off statistically speaking as well, premier league teams on average have more more money to spend too, with the second hardest league being Italy, then Spain, and this is talking of an average difficulty.
@@TribekaGaming Bro what r u on, Italy is the second hardest league, I agree with Prem but from your comments, it sounds like u don’t even watch other leagues, right now theres no team capable of winning UCL in the Italy n ur saying it’s the second hardest? Come men get to your senses
@@gtk9547 yeah you have no idea what’s you’re talking about, I said the average quality of The league, not if one single team can win it all, the average team in the prem and Italy roll on the Spanish French and German league
@@TribekaGaming then what happened that eintracht frankfurt won europa league vs those other english teams and barcelona?..u dont know what u talking about
I see Thierry’s answer Im a arsenal fan and winning the league feels impossible 🤣. But UCL is definitely harder
Prem is harder. Ucl anyone can win I am spurs fan and even we nearly won it
Yeah nearly one time in 100 times so is so hard
@@animeman90sthat's why real Madrid has more UCL than the 4 times league champions of the prem
@@animeman90sbut you didn’t win it
Champions league cuz some clubs choke in the 2nd leg just like Barça & PSG
think you're funny?
Barca started chocking from 2018-2019. Meanwhile psg has always been chocking
At least barca won 5 ucls....
@@Pa1zan because it’s facts I know your hurt by it LMAO the truth hurts 🤣🤡
@@Pa1zan i think he is
Man city also, with their almost unlimited cash, and yet no UCL title to this day 🤣
Yeah bro… it’s definitely harder to face teams that can’t even make it into the champion’s league… for sure
Let's take a look at these "champion's league" teams shall we?
Maccabi Haifa
Viktoria Plzeñ
Club Brugge
Dinamo Zagreb
Celtic
Shaktar Donesk
Just because you can get easy qualifications from dog shit leagues doesn't make them good teams😂😂👍
Exactly so imagine how difficult it is to win the league as one of those teams compared to winning the champions league as the best team in your country
@@vangledosh club brugge and zagreb are good wdym. and they would all be in the epl
@@AliG-yu2bn anyone who thinks a cup is harder to win than a league doesn't know much about football.
@@JamesHussain82 I do think leagues are harder to win than cups. But that is a conversation on which format is harder to win. Mind you it's also harder to loose in a league format as well. But as competitions go the UCL simply just has better teams so obviously its going to be a harder competition.
You have to get top 4 just to go in to the ucl, so definitely ucl
Every year is different. When Barca , Madrid , Milan we’re all in their prime it was harder to win Champions League. When Man city, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool are all in their top form, Prem is harder.
First you need to be able to win PL just to be a CL contender. Than you have to play the best teams in Europe and you must play very good, have luck and everything else. And maybe just maybe you'll win CL.
CL is the hardest to win.
You can win the champions league by finishing 4th 30 points off premier league first place.
@@Dinan-- which team did that?
@@adewilyan8030
Chelsea
@@t.d.2016 Ahh yeah my team did that how could I forgot. I tho someone gonna say Liverpool I can't remember their pos in PL 😂
But yah, newly promoted team can win PL tho.
@@adewilyan8030
Nah, they can't.
Henry’s seriousness kills me everytime 🤣🤣
Just came back to it and why is bro soo serious?🤣😭😭
No disrespect to anyone, but how is this a question!? They should ask Man City that question ❓
Only the English media would be asking a question like this.
Well they actually asked Carragher which has won CHL but never won the league…
Well they could also ask liverpool, 1 league title in 32 years compared to 2 champions league titles in that time and 5 finals
@@user-jq7di9pz8m
So they’ve won 1 more league than champions league in that space of time and you use making the final as another argument without saying how many times they came 2nd in the league. United have had success in the champions league over them 30 years as well but nowhere near the level of success in the league. Arsenal definitely found the league easier, city are an absolute shambles in the champions league and dominate the league
@@user-jq7di9pz8m and 19 league titles to 6 champions league titles..
Micah is definitely one of the happiest people on planet earth. His smile is infectious
Carra is right here. There are many teams who have won their domestic leagues, but have never won the champions league. It's the nature of knockout competition coupled with the fact that in the Champions league you're playing the top teams from all over Europe, not just the top teams in your league.
There are a lot of domestic champions each year but only one Champions League Winner. So of course it's harder to win the Champions League.
@JSmellerM for any one particular team's point of view, there is only one domestic champion per year- the champion of the league they are in. So from the team point of view, there are not more domestic champions yearly than European champions. For what you're saying to make a difference, you'd have to be randomly selecting a European team. In that case, the chance that the team you select will have won its league will be greater than the chance that the team you select will have won the champions league.
Micha been sniffing some glue 🤣
The League rewards consistency. You can lose sometimes and make up for it. As long as you win the majority of games then it's not a problem. In the CL one loss can get you out of the tournament. Not just a loss, you even have to be careful about how many goals you concede. Having a stable defense is very important. Once the group stage ends you will progressively see less goals as teams get more and more careful. Uli Hoeneß said it nicely: "the league title is the most honest. In the CL you can be the best team yet still not win because of one bad game or unlucky day". I'm not a player so I can't say for sure. But I think the majority of players, managers etc. would agree with Hoeneß's statement.
Ofc people who can't win ucl will say that 😂😂😂
No, of course those that can’t win the PL will say that
I don't think that's a fair argument to make and I'm a Madrid fan.
Liverpool have won more UCLs (2005-2019) than EPL because it was named something else before so those titles prior don't count as EPL, with that argument, you can come to the conclusion with your logic that PL is more difficult than UCL in that case.
Real madrid would be top 4 for sure every season
Ofc premier xD bcs they didn’t win champions league except Jamie xD
Henry won the champions league but with Barca
Henry won it 😂😂
Henry won every trophy in world football
We all know how much Henry played for barca and contributed in that win.
And Jamie never won the premier league
Depends on who you’re asking really. I know Pep and tuchel would have very different answers 😂
It’s doesn’t really, we all know it’s the UCL, we’ve seen a lot of players switch teams just to have a shot at winning it, who ever says the EPL is just biased.
@@gtk9547 league is harder, best team doesn’t always win the champions league but almost always best team wins premier league
CL is hard only because of the luck involved and the quality of teams. League is harder because of literally everything i.e the consistency required,the umpteen number of park the bus teams that you'll have to face,injuries etc. People who say CL instantly and then shame others for picking Pl dont think logically at all,they dont understand what harder to win means,they assume that it has to be CL just because teams are are of better quality
Did you forget that Pep already has 2 UCLs from Barça
@@tacostastegood3720 it’s been over a decade since he’s last won it even with the best squad in the world that’s all I’m saying
Cup competitions can be just as much about luck as ability. We see better teams lose time and time again in cup competitions.
In a quality league you have to be consistent and get the better of every team.
You can't avoid a tough draw in a league and you have to be consistent home and away.
It takes much more hard work to win a league.
Thierry and Micah are right.
Look at the oil tycoon clubs and their desperate efforts to win the "easier" UCL. Premiere league my foot!!
To start… you have to qualify to a UCL, and then you think about winning it. Thus the reason why team in the PL want to be top 4. Forget about winning, priority is top 4.
The PL argument makes sense and you have to be a genuine moron not to get it. To put it simply, the better team will ALWAYS win the pl.
38 games eliminate variance and teams min max to gain as much points as possible. The CL has a lot less games and so there is variance worse teams benefit from.
The PL is simply harder to win if youre not the "best team"
Also your claim about oil tycoons is hilarious. Chelsea won 2 UCLs in 8 years. I also do not see how Real Madrid is different from these oil tycoons considering their shady spanish bank deals
@@youngcitybandit The point was if it was easier to win the UCL than the PL, why have city never win the UCL? If it was city who won the UCL, the pundits would talk on end about how the UCL is at the pinnacle of all football competition.
@@sokhotinlallhungdim4109 did we ignore that a PL team won the last UCL while another PL team made a final? Both werent man city. Would you say the chelsea or tottenham that beat man city were better than them overall? No...
Teams treat cups differently. Its a different game in terms of tactics and mentality which is why good teams often fail.
Yah for sure Madrid would trade the 14 champions just to get a Single premier league... City are doing everything to just get that champions league and would trade the league for it any day.
the premier league is 38 games and the hardest league in the world even harder than the ucl😂
@@carlosramigaming464 that’s why city have won 4 PL in the last 5 years. That’s why United don’t have more CL than leagues. If you lose 5 games in the League who can still win it, if you lose 2-3 you are out. The only people who say CL are the ones that their team hasn’t won the competition, if they won it they would know and prefer the CL
@@carlosramigaming464 keep telling yourself these things, honestly this year Madrid deserves the Bpl for what they have done to the top prem teams
@@carlosramigaming464 not hard for city lol
The Champions League is significantly harder imo. The opposition is the best teams in the other countries. The leagues have a lot more games which means that even though you fuck up a part, and have a losing streak, you can still end up winning it at the end. Meanwhile the UCL is a lot deadlier. Your opponents have less chances to bottle to help recover from a possible losing streak. A game lost in the league might make the difference, but it's usually rare. In the Champions League, you've a foot outside the door.
Exactly my point. Facing world class players all over Europe in a tournament is not easy. You can see when ever England plays Euros, it speaks for it self that there are equally if not better top players out of Premier League
Micah is the Charles Barkley of this Channel 😂😂😂 his energy is the best and he is always getting flamed for his career 😂
Prem is harder yet one of the most expensive teams ever assembled (Man City) hasn’t won the Champions League yet….
And then there’s Liverpool, who only won one PL in 30+ years but has won 2 UCL’s and made it to more finals lol
@@elimun10 and won it 19 times in history but only 6 ucl...
@@elimun10 ans if you count finals also count the amount of 2nd places in leagues..
@@eldarion933
The question is PL, not stone age league.
Current PL.
@@t.d.2016 lol. Look at city utd chelsea leicester to name a few. All more prems than ucl
Thats the average english fan answer 😂
Man City be like : premier league
Me : you’ve won 6 and 0 champions leagues
Because you put all your effort into the league. When you’re like Real Madrid, the only team in laliga last year that was ever going to get the title, you can rest players and not worry about the league as much, put all your focus on the champions league. Whereas man city have been fighting for the title against other teams for years now, so they can’t put 100% focus on champions league
Absolutely retarded argument. If the Premier League somehow had some form of knockout element along the way, you'd see surprise winners a lot more than the CL. LFC have been domestic nobodies your entire life, you should respect the PL more.
If City said "screw the League, only the UCL this year" there would be uproar from the few City fans. In England at least the EPL comes first - especially since it makes more money.
@@minorears5205 "the few city fans" lol my guy you're talking about the historically 5th most supported team in England
@@imwinningthisone7613 hmm source trust me bro
Depends. Micah’s case is impossible, because he was almost always left out in Champions League matches, but managed to win Premier League. Jamie played for Liverpool, won UCL for Liverpool, and there’s a lot of pressure for EPL, as players and teams had (and still have) an equivalent level in this league. As for Henry, he won UCL, but never with Arsenal. He had a drought of UCL in his time with his no-UCL favorite team, but managed to win EPL.
Basically, it depends on the times you played EPL, the strength of the rivals, the pressure above you, etc.
More games, just makes it a lot more about squad rotation and whoever has the larger squad with the most quality back ups usually wins. It doesn’t automatically make the actual task any harder 😂
Ikr right, they’re acting like only one team is facing rotation problems but in reality, every team is going through the same squad debt issues, so it doesn’t really make any difference the amount of games you play.
@@blaqcvts So you are telling me to win the CL you need to have 3/4 good games….. Even though just to get through the group stages you have to play 6. Come on now.
@@seanohare3509 no,you dont need to be good in the group stages to go through. In the 19-20 season,there were only 1 or 2 games in the group stages where we truly outplayed our opponent,yet we finished second. Im pretty villareal didnt outplay their opponents more than 2 or 3 times in this cl campaign yet they were one fpot away from a CL final.
@@niranjanrajesh1058 you are delusional.
@@seanohare3509 you know a person is completely lost when they resort to ad hominems and don't present any facts
I think the ucl is harder because yes all the teams in the prem are good teams but you have the best teams in the world
Hardly. There’s many mid-table Prem teams who could easily make it out of the group stage in the UCL. Just because a team is considered the best team in their region doesn’t mean they’re good lol Even Leicester made it to the quarter finals of the UCL and that same season they finished 12th in the league.
@@elimun10 this. Its so important. Leicester finished 12th and made it to the qf. Villareal finished 6th or 7th this season but because of pure luck and park the bus tactics ,they reached the semi finals and were so close to reaching the final. Spurs finished 4th in the PL and reached the CL final
@@elimun10 nice joke
@@elimun10 Frankfurt are 9th in Bundesliga and made west ham look like a second division team lol
Well .you don't play every team in champions League ,where as in premier League you play every team twice
Leicester City won the Premier League six years ago. Enough said.
Nottingham forest won European cup
They were big back in the day@@birminghamlocal
@@user-ph5bn7ml8n Porto have won the Champions League multiple times. Educate yourself.
Vardy was just different that season… compound V or something
@@birminghamlocal yeah in the 70s
Henry is always the "Dad" of the group 😂😂😂 deciding factor always
The question should be how many premier League titles = 1 UCL ?
How many teams have won the league 20 times and how many have won ucl 20 times
That’s because the top teams in Europe in one competition means that one team can’t keep winning UCL(besides Real Madrid). There’s a major luck factor in UCL because you can get an easy group, easy round of 16, easy quarter finals and somehow make it to the final like Liverpool. Premier league you have to be consistent over 38 games so that’s extremely hard to do in the hardest league in the world. You can’t compare the worth of Premier league and UCL because they are both essential to be a successful English team or have a good season.
@@defrenkg814 Bro PL only has top 3 hard teams to face and if ur City, Liverpool, or Chelsea, then only 2, u can afford to lose twice to both of those teams n still win the Prem while if u do that in the UCL, ur knocked out, why don’t u ask Henry himself, he won the Prem but couldn’t win UCL so he had to run away and go join a goated Barcelona team in order to win it.
@@gtk9547 difference is one is a marathon and one is a sprint you have to beat teams consistently and alot more factors go into winning the pl than the champions league😂
@@carlosramigaming464 yes but consistency against worse opponents isn't good. That is just expected. If you do well in prem but consistently do badly in UCL then you can't say prem is easier as more games.
@@defrenkg814 name one team that had an “easy” route and won the tournament
Henry 0 UCL with Arsenal ^^ probably he forget. Haha
He won champions league with Barca
@@zm4993 its about the prem...
@@eldarion933 and Henry won both where Micah and Carragher just won one each, so Henry had the upper hand on which is tougher as what the question was asked.
@@zm4993 yeah thats why city wins the league every year but doesnt win the CL.
@@eldarion933 nice job using that same braindead shitty argument everywhere. City have the worst luck of any team. They lost fair and square to monaco,then next season they completely outplayed liverpool at home and ended up losing,next season they destroyed spurs but spurs were given a handball goal and citys last minute goal was canceled out,next season sterling missed a chance from 2 yards and minutes later ederson gifted lyon a 3rd goal. Next season they reached the CL final and pep decided to not play a DM. Finally,this season they reached the semi and were 4 minutes from the final when onexplicably real scored 2. Most of these correlate to luck and pep being dumb af,not to the CL being hard
As a Manchester City fan myself I say Champions League. Micah should really say the same himself because look how hard it’s been for us to win it and yet we seem to roll out league titles for fun under Pep
And if ManCity weren't gifted with that financial support . . the would never have won the UCL and the EPL.
@@rebel3369 shut up ya jealous lemon. Nout wrong with abit of oil money
I love how Thierry answers some questions so curtly like that 😂
When Kids grow up they dream of winning the UCL, very few dream of winning the premier league
Loooool this is the dumbest answer I’ve seen. Most kids dream of just playing in the premiership
So your telling me as an 8 year old kid you said “I wAnT tO pLaY iN tHe PrEmIeRsHiP aNd nOtHiNg MoRe”
@@stumble_wizard7872Your comment still makes no sense - kids dream of winning the UCL and the Prem. They can both be dreamt about
Zidane said: Winning La Liga is harder than winning the champions league
You only have to beat Barcelona or whatever 3rd place team once each and draw the other two matches and win the rest that they should win. La Liga is a farmers league.
@@CaptainCreampie69 is that why city is continuously getting 90 points like prime Barca or Madrid? you act like prem is the only league where smaller clubs defeat top teams. what competition does man City have? Liverpool and just arsenal this year
@@GauravYadav-bf7qj Pep always wins the league but never wins CL w/o Messi
@@CaptainCreampie69 Zidane won more champions league than Laliga titles though. so he was right saying that😂 And the Premier League is Manchester City vs the everybody else. That's the definition of Farmer's league right there.
@@CaptainCreampie69Sevilla humiliated every PL team they ever met… No, I don’t agree
When you're competing in the ucl you are competing against the best in Europe, when you're competing for the pl or any other league for that matter- you're just competing against the best teams in your own country
You don't play every team. And the best teams get seeded
I would say UCL is harder, simply because you need to play well across teams with different styles, travel to different countries and climates, be on form and mentally prepared for sudden death matches at all times, and luck needs to be on your side to survive. For PL, while no mean feat, you can technically survive with a bigger squad and also have familiarity over the teams you play with, in an environment that you know. Of course consistency makes PL harder but I would say it is at least within your hands, whereas you can get beaten in the UCL easily with just one off night / tactical error.
Premier League is harder to win I guess that's why Leicester has about 5 UCL 🤣🤣🤣
Spurs made it to the final of the ucl not to long ago mate, premier league defo tougher than ucl
@@dude99844 and did they win? No? How many PL has city won last 10 years? And how many PL? Nough said
@@dude99844 did they win????
@@dude99844 city won 5 Prime League in the last 10 years ..and never won any ucl..😂😂..
@@eldarion933 prem is only easier if you have the best team and best coach. Ask liverpool which they find easier to win, prem or ucl.
Not my boy Thierry 💀
Edit: Thierry is probably just joking
He's won both so he has more experience than Carragher and the premier league is harder
He's not
When english ppl are way more self-absorbed than u could ever imagine... (makes sense in a weird way)
1 CL now
Nowadays the prem is a lot harder to win that a UCL as the margin for error has become so much smaller. Before winning the UCL was always the tougher because of the sheer quality of the big teams. The big teams nowadays are filled in with average players with good tactics.
Pep must love this video 🤣
Micah richard : win pl without doing anything
Micah richards : pl is harder
Dumb
Im sure there were never people on the bench in champions league right? LOL
@@youngcitybandit these people don’t play expert like him
It's actually a hard question.
In Champions League you are facing the toughest quality opponents but for only 13 games. In Premier League you are facing less tough opponents but for 38 games.
I think you could say that to win Premier League you have to play good consistently but for Champions League you have to play great with nerves of steel when the moment comes.
If you are not top 4 (2 in some other leagues) in your country you can't even partecipate to the champions league. That's why is harder to win one.
Man City is the best illustration for this question: they won PL 10 times & failed UCL 10 times in a row while being bought by petrodollars
so obviously UCL is harder
People forget as well you have less preparation and it’s random who you play in the champions league while in the premier league you have a list of all the teams you are going to play
It depends on your viewpoint… for example the League is won mostly by the strongest team, as in more often than not the most consistent team will win the league…
In reverse the champions league winner is not necessarily the strongest team, it comes down to a lot of factors, injuries, form, ref decisions etc… so if you’re the dominant team in your league… the harder tournament is the UCL… if you’re a weaker team in your league the harder tournament is the league cause you’ve got a better chance at winning the UCL
But if the CL is easy, why couldn’t Man City win it nice while they are winning the PL for several time in short time?
Ask Liverpool same question about the league.
Oh another dude who thinks hes being smart when in reality hes being utterpy stupid. Only 1 of citys last 5 CL exits have occurred because the other team outplayed them. The other 4 times were VAR,pep being dumb along with sterling missing a sitter,pep being dumb again,and real madrids unbelievable luck.
@@elimun10 madrid won 3 league titles and 5 UCL in 8 years does that make Champions league a farmers league for real madrid and la liga more tougher than PL?
@@elimun10 Liverpool have been garbage for last decade before klopp tho… it’s not like they were good in last 10 years
@@elimun10 Liverpool has more league Titles than Champion leagues.
The way it cuts at the end when Thierry Henry says, ‘Premier League’ was perfect😂
Well in henrys defense its easier to win the champions league with that barca side compared to the premier with arsenal
He went to Barca to win the champions league
The level of difficulty against opponents definitely means CL. We also can't forget that two EPL champions in the last decade did so in seasons when they weren't in Europe (Leicester City in 2015/16, and Chelsea in 2016/17), so I'd say those extra 13 games refute the point about the 38-game EPL season.
Deep down Henry knew it’s champion league, he manage to win when he went to Barcelona from arsenal.
Henry : I prefer not to speak 🤣
Teams winning champions league when they’re not even winners of there own league needs a name change
Because some teams prioritise the ucl over their own league..but this year real won both so they are the best team in the world right now.
@@nicholasgakuu5223 fair enough not always the case but being called champions league is getting a joke when actual champion not winning it
@@nicholasgakuu5223 fair enough not always the case but being called champions league is getting a joke when actual champion not winning it
The Champions League features the top four teams from every European country, typically showcasing the crème de la crème in the finals. Occasionally, smaller teams, either through luck or a standout season, make it, making the Champions League even more challenging.
Champions league clearly because city still haven’t managed it.
Henry is the only one that’s actually won both so we’ll have to take his word for it.
Yeah and had to go to a different club to do so
@@derrythedog7928 so?
Zidane also had to go madrid to win the cl, couldn't do it with juve
@@emil2683 He only meant that Henry needed a stacked Barça to win the CL, if it's easier as he says he would have done it with Arsenal
@@itrig7679 that stacked barca lost to man united the season before.
Almost every team that wins the cl is stacked.
@@emil2683 CL is harder to win than PL ask Pep he would tell you, and don't take reporters opinions even if they were good players once, they only care about views and controversy for now, thats their new job
CL brings pressure, because if you lose you know you get no chance to progress. These “one off” games are 90 minutes just like the league game but you play with added pressure and against the best in europe. To be the best you must beat the best. There’s many league winners in a year but only 1 CL winner. CL >>> PL
Exactly all this 38 game malarkey is nonsense. Knock out exposes the weak from the truly great.
Ones a marathon, the other a sprint
@@FatTodd exactly people just see the stats, they don’t understand mentality and perseverance. That’s why teams like Man City tend to bottle it, they’re amazing & im sure they’ll win one in the future, but there’s a reason they won like 6 PLs and have only gone to one CL final.
@@mareeyo1 well guess it’s personal preference who do you rate more the best marathon runner in the world or usain bolt. Lol
@@hboss7039 yep, not everyday tactics and tikitaka waka waka and gaygay pressing. It’s annoying seeing all these nerds get gassed over these systems that are removing the individuality in the game and making it feel more robotic.
Why does no one understand or rate man and game management? Old school football, stay in the game with experienced cool heads, wear the opposition down, picking your moments to strike and when to time the subs. Also integrating youth without harming the hierarchy - All these things matter just as much.
With pep and klopp, the quality of their squads and their system is why they dominate the prem so much, but when they match teams on their level they have no real plan b. Bruce lee said be water…
Great editing lol Henry at the end 2 words nuff said
Just a word: ENVY
Envy? Henry won both. Who was he envious of exactly?
@@XhoowieX Just another word for you: fourteen
@@ngc8310 I didn't ask you how old your girlfriend is...
Well it's the UCL.
You gotta perform well in the EPL just to qualify. So it's even hard to qualify for. But the EPL is still the more illustrious trophy. Leagues by their nature produce the best team of the season. In the UCL you could be the best team, and have one bad game and your out...or lose on penalties....that in itself makes it more difficult.... there's luck involved.
Since the day klopp, pep, conte all joined premier league, epl is the tougher cup to win.
And one team of la Liga destroyed them all.
@@Duckie211-l5y haha destroy? If u really watch the gameplay, real madraid got OUTPLAYED EVERY FKING GAME. they are almost like the chelsea2012. Full of Lady luck. They are not that good and not that bad, just alright.
If real were to play more games with city, liverpool, they will lose more matches for sure.
@@waikiankhoo8746 lol, what u saying? Chelsea 2010/11/12 ruled pl
@@waikiankhoo8746 and man city and liverpool can win trophies in pl only.
@@Duckie211-l5y wow. Then 2019 winner was liverpool? 2021 is chelsea? How come? So many finals in recent years have english teams
Different types of competitions to win. Ones over 38 games; the other is one group stage and then knockout games. The former rewards consistency; the other staying in and peaking at the right times.
UCL is the pinnacle of the European club game though.
Chelsea in 2012 finished 5th in the premier league yet won the champions league
Liverpool in 2004 finished 5th in the premier league yet won the champions league
Yet man city dominate the premier league and haven’t yet won the champions league
Arsenal went unbeaten in the premier league and couldn’t win the champions league
This aged well 😂😂😂
@@randymorrison1761yea point still stands , man city 5 premier to 1 ucl . What does that tell you ?
Real madrid beat the top english clubs and the actual premier league champion 😅😅
Yeah but that can come down to only a few games I think every team doesn’t play the best teams all the time in champions league so Madrid might get lucky and get an English team once a tournament and it’s easier to win once rather than several times during the whole champions league tournament
Henry with the quick subtle “premier league”
I agree with Micah. There are so many games to try and stay on top
She goes hard with the makeup