Crash on final approach | The story of Crossair Flight 3597

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2020
  • Just minutes before landing, Crossair Flight 3597 crashed just off its homebase in Zurich. In this video we will discover the reason behind this accident.
    Crash on final approach | The story of Crossair Flight 3597
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Комментарии • 105

  • @cashisking7410
    @cashisking7410 2 года назад +11

    This plane also had lead singer of La Bouche on board. R.i.p Melanie Thornton 💙

  • @stevesutcliffe3490
    @stevesutcliffe3490 3 года назад +48

    Gross negligence on the airline's part, more like.

  • @swagner58
    @swagner58 3 года назад +36

    @ 6:25 "He was demoted from Instructor to Captain". With his multiple failures to qualify in types and other issues, why was he an IP to start with?

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +10

      That's a very good question. Crossair had pretty much ignored his history.

    • @johnstreet819
      @johnstreet819 2 года назад +3

      I would have suggested McDonalds.

  • @arturo468
    @arturo468 3 года назад +34

    The cross-cockpit authority gradient was significant with this crew. The Captain was far more experienced than the First Officer which would have prevented him challenging the Captain’s poor decisions. However, the principal cause of the accident was the airline not terminating the Captain’s employment due to his inadequate performance during his previous checks.

    • @gdwnet
      @gdwnet 3 года назад +7

      the FO was also rebuked about the runway report which would have caused him to close down a little.
      How comes he wasn't fired after causing a plane to be written off?!

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +3

      That's the big question!

    • @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg
      @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg 7 месяцев назад

      C FACILE D ' ACCUSER UN MORT SI ON LUI AVAIT DIT PISTE 14 ILS TOUS PRESENT AUJOURD'HUI
      ATTERIR DANS UN BROUILLARD A COUPER O COUTEAUX A BON ENTENDEUR

    • @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg
      @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg 7 месяцев назад

      Nul de chez nul votre réponse

  • @RamHaHahehe
    @RamHaHahehe 2 года назад +10

    Is this the flight where Melanie, the singer, was a passenger and did not make it? RIP

  • @gilbertfranklin1537
    @gilbertfranklin1537 3 года назад +31

    This was an excellent video, very well narrated. It is much better than the last two that I watched about the same accident. Now subscribed!

  • @Gazza653
    @Gazza653 3 года назад +8

    I remember this well. I was a Crossair mechanic based at Basel-Mulhouse at the time. A very dark day indeed, and completely avoidable.

  • @vojislav9372
    @vojislav9372 3 года назад +36

    Why did they still keep him in the airline after so many problems he had. That was a crash waiting to happen.
    Video was great as usual, keep it up!

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +5

      Thanks a lot :)
      Crossair had many problems back in the day. A looming insolvency, and a lack of good pilot checking were just two of them. The final report states:
      "Over a long period of time, the responsible persons of the airline did not make correct
      assessments of the commander’s flying performance. Where weaknesses were
      perceptable, they did not take appropriate measures."

    • @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg
      @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg 7 месяцев назад

      C TOUJOURS FACILE DE CRITIQUER UN MORT
      LE PILOTE AVAIT PLUS DE 25 ANS A SON COMPTE A L AÉROPORT SUISSE
      J ' AURAIS BIEN VOULUT VOUS VOIR ATTERIR DANS LE BROUILLARD VOUS N ' AVER JAMAIS COMMIS
      D'ERREUR DANS VOTRE VIE A BON ENTENDEUR

    • @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg
      @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg 7 месяцев назад

      Aller lui demandé ils vous donnera la reponse

  • @armany02
    @armany02 3 года назад +14

    Absolute shame. He should not have been allowed to fly a plane ever again...he took his own life and sent 23 people with him. If you remember, Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on that plane too, so sad. Days before she died, she said, "I'll be home for Christmas." SHAME on the pilot and company. Money will not bring back pain nor people.

    • @ramona146
      @ramona146 2 года назад +8

      Passionfruit was on this plane too :'( I still often get goosebumbs when I listen to their or Melanies songs

  • @kelvinhbo
    @kelvinhbo 2 года назад +9

    So you're telling me that he flipped a switch that ruined a multi-million dollar airplane, and all they did was demote him?

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  2 года назад +1

      yup...

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 года назад +4

      It’s the right thing. If you go around sacking people for mistakes, you stop finding out about the mistakes. Now that’s dangerous.

    • @d6893
      @d6893 Год назад +1

      After having read the whole final report cpt. lutz reminded me of the pilot in the famous aviation skit made by swiss comedian Emil Steinberger

  • @deputy3690
    @deputy3690 3 года назад +36

    Company is just as liable as they knew his past history and had many chances to fire him.

    • @amyevastarchild6199
      @amyevastarchild6199 2 года назад

      Marsha, you are so Wright.
      Way ohhhh way, duo's people not fiar him.
      This is not Wright.
      Bhut dhar is a God.
      End a Karma for that man.

    • @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg
      @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg 7 месяцев назад

      C vous que j ' aurais licencier vous le connaissez le pilote non
      Alors garder vos commentaires ils était pilote instructeur
      C facile de jetter la pierre
      Je ne le connaît pas mais je me. Met à sa place atterir dans un brouillard à couper o couteaux c comme rouler en voiture sur une route dans un brouillard sans ligne blanches c'était le dernier avion à atterir si la contrôleuse lui disait piste 14 ils serait tous là aujourd'hui à bon entendeur

  • @CassassinCatto
    @CassassinCatto 3 года назад +13

    Who was the pilot? Homer Simpson?

  • @Peacich
    @Peacich 2 года назад +3

    I'm on a random binge of you content. I already saw content about most of this cases . But I really enjoy the way you present them. Keep doing what you are doing.

  • @rd-pd8xb
    @rd-pd8xb 2 года назад +2

    I hope your videos continue to raise awareness about air safety and how so many accidents are preventable.

  • @johnthegreek7356
    @johnthegreek7356 3 года назад +9

    So much experience yet such poor airmanship. Truly an interesting case. Amazing video as always!

    • @jimbee7342
      @jimbee7342 3 года назад +2

      Experience =/= Wisdom

    • @d6893
      @d6893 Год назад

      Some people manage to just wing it (pun intended)

  • @AirspaceVideos
    @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +12

    I forgot to mention - not everyone died on this crash. 9 out of 33 survived.
    Link to my other videos:
    bit.ly/AirspaceYT

  • @iam_tyrone
    @iam_tyrone 3 года назад +6

    This story is unreal..

  • @justrelax1539
    @justrelax1539 2 года назад +5

    She was SO CLOSE to having a safe arrival and being with us TODAY!

  • @SalfordMatt
    @SalfordMatt 3 года назад +7

    Guy wrote off a plane and carries on in his job (still senior). PRISON

  • @gianpaolomosoni7230
    @gianpaolomosoni7230 2 года назад +7

    how is it possible that such an enjoyable and very detailed video has only these few views. you deserve much more continue like this, because you are already much ahead of other creators

  • @billythekid3234
    @billythekid3234 3 года назад +3

    Just found your channel........ video was well done and straight to the point! I'm your newest Subscriber! I look forward to more videos! Happy new year!

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад

      Welcome to the channel :) And thank you very much, happy new year!

  • @galja6889
    @galja6889 3 года назад +3

    Great video!
    Exquisitely explained Non precision approach.Great pilots background explained.
    Thank you.I subscribed!

  • @alexc.5781
    @alexc.5781 2 года назад +3

    As of today, the guy still believes the wings flap faster when you push the throttle.

  • @takers786
    @takers786 3 года назад +6

    and he flew for 20000 hours?? My god
    anyways love your videos, fantastic story-telling and narrating, would highly appreciate it if you could add closed captions!

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +1

      thanks! I'll consider that. does youtube not offer automatic closed captions?

    • @takers786
      @takers786 3 года назад +1

      @@AirspaceVideos sorry yeah it does, and i just noticed it's doing a pretty good job actually although it's not always accurate. keep up the good work :D

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад

      Right, great! I sure will :)

  • @Kairos0x
    @Kairos0x 2 года назад +2

    This man retracted the landing gear while the plane was on the GROUND. And they let him fly after that? What the hell.

  • @thedpstraveller
    @thedpstraveller 3 года назад +2

    great video :D

  • @michaelbailey1578
    @michaelbailey1578 3 года назад +3

    The negligence does indeed fall on the airline regarding the incompetent pilot, but it amazes me that the first officer had only 500 hours logged time. That is just ridiculous. It seems like I spent 500 hours just hearing the phrase, "Don't bust minimums."

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +4

      I explain how and why young first officers reach the cockpit so soon in europe in my video "flawed logic". I don't think the lack of hours is a problem, I see the problem more in the age and authority gap between the two pilots.

  • @LudetheDude1
    @LudetheDude1 3 года назад +3

    Nice analysis. I like your English commentary.

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +1

      thanks a lot!

    • @LudetheDude1
      @LudetheDude1 3 года назад +2

      @@AirspaceVideos The graphics are good and are something that other, similar videos do not have.

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад +1

      Thanks, this is my goal - to provide something the other crash investigation videos do not have. glad you like it! :)

  • @gooner72
    @gooner72 3 года назад +7

    Unbelievable!!! How can a man with so many failures end up as an aircraft Captain? In my opinion, he shouldn't have even been allowed into the cockpit of a commercial aircraft, let alone be in a position of seniority. Gross negligence from the airline....

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 10 месяцев назад

      Not just a captain but the commentary said he was an instructor until demoted

    • @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg
      @YvesMakhloufi-yp9dg 7 месяцев назад

      Je dirait simplement que vous été nulle à bon entendeur
      ( c facile de critiquer )

  • @christelchristely2816
    @christelchristely2816 3 года назад +3

    He probably was related to someone in management.

  • @danielshannon6027
    @danielshannon6027 Год назад +1

    Two singers from the trio Passion Fruit also died in the crash.

  • @agape423
    @agape423 3 года назад +5

    wow. So poor performance but almost 20.000 hrs of flight???

    • @franzvoss4808
      @franzvoss4808 3 года назад

      Yeah, a bit like your English.😂

    • @punkgrl325
      @punkgrl325 2 года назад +1

      @@franzvoss4808 Not everyone’s first language is English. This especially true when it comes to comments about a video on an event that did not take place in an English-speaking country.

  • @animalariscoproducoes6453
    @animalariscoproducoes6453 Год назад +2

    Melanie Thornton, vocalist of La Bouche, was in that flight.
    RIP Melanie

  • @davidhull1481
    @davidhull1481 3 года назад +6

    I was going to watch this because I thought it said captains negligee. Oh well

  • @ELTT1
    @ELTT1 Год назад

    Rip la Bouche

  • @TheGerudan
    @TheGerudan 2 года назад +2

    So the guy was literally Homer Simpson: ruclips.net/video/nLGzojday4o/видео.html
    Yet he somehow got up to 15,000h...unbelievable...

  • @krugerfuchs
    @krugerfuchs 2 года назад

    He brought the landing gear up on a parked aircraft and was flying over Italy and the passengers knew because of road signs the co pilot was good

  • @user-vo8ss2bm3p
    @user-vo8ss2bm3p 2 года назад

    They failed to tell fo that he was only adult/sane in cockpit(

  • @nictamer
    @nictamer 3 года назад +2

    It was not gross negligence, just gross stupidity.

  • @rd-pd8xb
    @rd-pd8xb 2 года назад +1

    Mr Airspace, I would guess that you are Dutch. I’m American, so pardon the inability to be certain about the accent. Thank you for the amazing videos and insight!

  • @NelidaDoll
    @NelidaDoll 2 года назад +2

    The singer Melanie Thorton from."La Bouche" was on this flight.

  • @ryanatkinson2978
    @ryanatkinson2978 2 года назад +1

    This captain shouldn't have even been allowed to fly private planes. What an idiot, and the people who let him in the captain's position, let alone instructor, are also responsible for this

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 года назад +1

      The approach was a poor design too and was an accident waiting to happen.

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  2 года назад

      disagree there, what brings you to that conclusion?

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 года назад

      @@AirspaceVideos it was a dive and drive with, if I recall, having flown it a few times, more than one level altitude. Most NPAs can be flown CDA which is MUCH safer, this one couldn’t. Funny, the authorities agreed which is why they installed the uncategorised ILS which is better, but still not ideal. That runway, or more particularly its approaches have always been a hazard.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 года назад

      @@AirspaceVideos it’s had multiple level off altitudes and couldn’t be flown CDA which most NPAs can and which is safer. Much safer. It also had a course change during the final approach which is absolutely ridiculous and obviously dangerous. The authorities obviously agreed as they installed the uncategorised ILS which is also unsafe. They just need to abandon that runway.

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  2 года назад

      Hm well, weren't most "old" NPAs designed in that way? I recall flying many of those during initial IR-training... but yeah, runway 28 is suboptimal, I agree there.
      So much politics involved in LSZH, it's terrible.

  • @d6893
    @d6893 Год назад +3

    RIP Melanie Thornton… she was aboard

  • @fluffy-fluffy5996
    @fluffy-fluffy5996 3 года назад +1

    Just a little pronunciation thing: it’s spoken “SUB-suhquently”, not sub-see-quently. I know it’s probably petty af 👀

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад

      Noted 😄 I'm no native english speaker so you'll probably hear more mispronounciations, but I'll do my best!

    • @fluffy-fluffy5996
      @fluffy-fluffy5996 3 года назад +1

      @@AirspaceVideos I’m not either but this one I happened to know. It makes sense too. Normally the emphasis is on the first syllable of “sequence” so I don’t blame you one bit for doing that in subsequently as well 🙂
      (I mispronounce words too and never knew until I come across it after 32 y of learning and speaking English. English speakers themselves mispronounce words as well so no worries about it. 🙂

    • @AirspaceVideos
      @AirspaceVideos  3 года назад

      I'm sure they do :) Thanks anyways!

    • @Queen-of-Swords
      @Queen-of-Swords 2 года назад +1

      Leave him alone, he has a very sexy accent!

  • @taghitadeline5097
    @taghitadeline5097 Год назад

    Pourquoi ✍️ écrire capitaine négligence je suis pas tu tout d ' accord avec vous cordialement 👽

  • @omegaman1409
    @omegaman1409 2 года назад +3

    The sad part was the so called Captain was incompetent. A time bomb waiting to go off. Sadly Melanie Thornton was on the flight.

  • @krugerfuchs
    @krugerfuchs 2 года назад

    Why was he not sacked

  • @RebellionWarrior
    @RebellionWarrior Год назад

    Melanie Thornton from La Bouche was on this flight. I wonder if she was singing all the way down to her death? 💀 Maybe she was singing “Sweet Dreams”, “You Won’t Forget Me” or “Amazing Grace.” May her soul Rest In Peace La Bouche was my favourite band back in the 1990s

  • @peoplethesedaysberetarded
    @peoplethesedaysberetarded Год назад

    You’re recycling content from years ago.
    On every short that does this, I’m giving a thumbs-down.