I may have cheated in this Trackmania Cup...

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @onlysmiles4949
    @onlysmiles4949 Год назад +6423

    This is a certified 34% moment

  • @munchkinmatt1670
    @munchkinmatt1670 Год назад +2096

    "Check if the WR wiggles." "My run is the WR." 🤣

    • @lagg1e
      @lagg1e Год назад +88

      Chat doesn't know who they're dealing with.

    • @aint_noway_dude
      @aint_noway_dude Год назад +54

      Only if he said, "I am the World Record"🤣

    • @qwertek8413
      @qwertek8413 Год назад +55

      I won't watch the World Record Skyler, I am the World Record!

    • @richardmoore7730
      @richardmoore7730 Год назад +6

      Gigachad af

    • @chrislawson3536
      @chrislawson3536 Год назад

      I’m dum timestamp?

  • @enefik
    @enefik Год назад +3479

    I remember as a kid watching him play this COTD. I'm in my 80's and this video brings back nostalgic memories

    • @sebproud
      @sebproud Год назад +328

      He was one of my favourite streamers to watch growing up too! Every time my grandchildren visit I tell them about him, but its sad that he went out the way he did

    • @get_vectored2757
      @get_vectored2757 Год назад +161

      can i borrow the time machine when ur done

    • @rorycannon7295
      @rorycannon7295 Год назад +132

      bro is a fruit fly

    • @timyassa4343
      @timyassa4343 Год назад +30

      I'm in my 70s but used to watch him in highschool

    • @newtonthenewt1400
      @newtonthenewt1400 Год назад +10

      @@timyassa4343 bro I'm only 25 and watched him when I started collecting my first social security checks.

  • @walterreed6645
    @walterreed6645 Год назад +284

    For those of you who don’t understand all of the comments about the number 34:
    Wirtual’s action keys are set at 34% for his turns and caused a rule change. For more information just look up “Wirtual Rule 34”

    • @sleezingrn.4759
      @sleezingrn.4759 5 месяцев назад +6

      Good one

    • @noob2572
      @noob2572 2 месяца назад

      LOOOL

    • @brodie-yq5ig
      @brodie-yq5ig Месяц назад

      the fuck did i just search up bro my mum is yelling at me because i was in the loungroom

  • @Kinwika2
    @Kinwika2 Год назад +1920

    Man i love the number 34 for apsolutely no reason at all

    • @damingaman
      @damingaman Год назад +191

      Rule 34 😏

    • @Vexinal
      @Vexinal Год назад +93

      @@damingaman THATS NOT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

    • @duseifert
      @duseifert Год назад +101

      ​@@Vexinal too late

    • @firedell1031
      @firedell1031 Год назад +65

      ~You know the rules, and so do I~

    • @devoonhmm5945
      @devoonhmm5945 Год назад +16

      ​@@duseifert the rules of the internet right? right?

  • @DankBobRoss
    @DankBobRoss Год назад +666

    It’s so fun watching wirtual’s head turn with the car when he focuses, he becomes one with the car

    • @connorball4504
      @connorball4504 Год назад +5

      Never noticed that 😂

    • @qwertek8413
      @qwertek8413 Год назад +5

      Do you play Trackmania? I actually noticed that I'm also doing that unintentionally and it's really hard for me to stop doing :D

    • @panko6632
      @panko6632 Год назад +3

      Ngl that is pretty cute

    • @soggytatty3845
      @soggytatty3845 Год назад +2

      I never noticed it now I can't unsee it

    • @kristophercole7161
      @kristophercole7161 Год назад

      anyone know the song at 23:55 ?

  • @codetaku
    @codetaku Год назад +230

    elconn casually beating wirtual's world record in the first live round was pretty sick though, 47.272 before Wirtual actually noticed the final world record during the cup at 47.188

  • @lilganja1337
    @lilganja1337 Год назад +616

    Uploaded 34 minutes ago, how I love the number.
    On another note though, can we talk about how Micka was consistently fast/er than Wirtual "cheating"? That guy is insane!

    • @timjennings8152
      @timjennings8152 Год назад +125

      Confirmed Micka is hard-wired at 34%

    • @Furious_Bananas
      @Furious_Bananas Год назад +22

      @@timjennings8152 comment 34 minutes old

    • @Oldsah
      @Oldsah Год назад +3

      doesn't he play controller

    • @Chizypuff
      @Chizypuff Год назад +50

      Controller has higher potential on bobsleigh, being able to change the steering angle over the course of turn as well as just having full analog range

    • @Oldsah
      @Oldsah Год назад +3

      @@DaniV65 i watched it. I was referring to micka. My question was whether he wa splaying on controller

  • @eclipseeffigy
    @eclipseeffigy Год назад +82

    Wirtual: I'm recording an intro, give me a sec
    Jnic: hold my hangboard, I'm going in!
    😂

  • @HammerdWalrus
    @HammerdWalrus Год назад +938

    imo, it's not cheating unless there is a rule/unspoken rule about the given issue. The keyboard thing wasn't an issue until it was, so it really wasn't cheating until it became a debate. Plus, with Wirtual being honest about the keyboard and how it works shows that there was no intent to cheat, only an accident if anything. If this can be considered accidental cheating, then it's probably the only case I've seen personally.

    • @MaxMckayful
      @MaxMckayful Год назад +39

      "Technically correct" is such a convenient line that FEELS objective but often isn't. There's such a thing as spirit of the law. I also don't think action keys, at the time, really broke spirit of the law (though the fact that some players have it and some don't is problematic) but Wirtual obviously wasn't being nefarious about it. That said, hiding behind technical "there's a rule" evades accountability from at times unjust laws and systems.

    • @ZeD69420
      @ZeD69420 Год назад +190

      They had 40%action keys whats so bad if someone makes their own for 34% just a bunch of babies crying. In the end the controller was the faster input method hahaha.

    • @Pendergast891
      @Pendergast891 Год назад +142

      @@ZeD69420 yeah, on his main channel he even talked about how he was showing it off to his chat and how it worked and the pros and cons of it. and as he said the only questionable thing that ended up getting it banned from future games was that it gave too much consistency for little downside.
      he didnt hide it, people saw he had a 'modified' action key for a while and thought nothing of it, only until a 34% angle was more efficient than 40% did it become and issue, and its only a matter of time until nadeo makes in-game customizable action key-binds.

    • @hallymiao2825
      @hallymiao2825 Год назад +98

      It was kinda moot in the end anyways.. as it was proven that controller was straight up superior to custom action keys if you have enough skill.

    • @Essence1123
      @Essence1123 Год назад +16

      He's using software to improve his performance, that's literally like aimbotting or TASing - using a piece of software specifically to give you an advantage over everyone else. Of course it's cheating, it doesn't matter if there's "intention" - it's cheating. Dream didn't "intend" to have mods in his minecraft runs that made them easier yet he did - that's also cheating.

  • @TheSniperjet
    @TheSniperjet Год назад +99

    I’m 100% using the phrase “he’s definitely using 34%” for anything remotely cheating related in the future

  • @eopo
    @eopo Год назад +73

    JNic having fun with the Beastmaker 2000 in the beginning is just perfect haha

  • @CinJyxxe
    @CinJyxxe Год назад +277

    Chat's right for this one, Wirtual, you gotta stop playing with us on these terrifying finishes.

    • @bdhale34
      @bdhale34 Год назад +36

      All the "don't risk it''s trying to go for the safe finish was way more dangerous and risky than just sending it through the risky finish.

    • @Iwatoda_Dorm
      @Iwatoda_Dorm Год назад +5

      Maybe the car is too unstable coming out of that last check point to quickly switch finishes without slowing down terribly. Either way, I couldn’t imagine doing that in div 1 Xd

    • @endeav0r_49
      @endeav0r_49 Год назад +7

      @@bdhale34 i legit shat my pants everytime wirt went for the flippyflip into "safe" finish

  • @xavierdefaix
    @xavierdefaix Год назад +31

    Normally you can sleep while watching COTD's, but now my heart was racing at least 34% of the time like crazy.

  • @excrubulent
    @excrubulent Год назад +171

    I think a better response from Nadeo would've been to unlock the potentioal of the action keys and allow players to define action keys at any percentage they wanted. Then this technique is open to all, there's no cost barrier to entry and gamepad players can use it too. It might give a slight advantage back to gamepad players since they would have both action keys AND analog input, but it seems like the fairest way to do it, and it means you don't have to deal with the effort and drama of enforcing a new rule.

    • @thebestdamager7400
      @thebestdamager7400 Год назад +71

      The problem is that then you would need to check for every turn and every map to search for the best %. It would turn into a macro optimization game instead of a racing game.

    • @canstermeat8171
      @canstermeat8171 Год назад +24

      The whole idea of analog keyboard being a cheat is ridiculous, as those things are supported by the game. It's like using a arcade stick in a fighting game is somehow cheating. Nadeo should've embraced analog.

    • @ayooobro
      @ayooobro Год назад +8

      @@thebestdamager7400 it could. but is it better to close the gap between keyboard and controller for everybody at the cost of WR attempts with KB requiring some tuning, or is it better to say "go buy a controller and learn that if you wanna compete pleb"?

    • @GelberDracheLP
      @GelberDracheLP Год назад +19

      @@canstermeat8171 You now it is not about the analog kayboard input...
      It was about that Wirtual did press the key to 100% and the keyboard did only send 34%...
      If he had used the analog keyboard as an analog keyboard, so he would need to press 34% to get 34% then everyone would have bean fine with it

    • @thebestdamager7400
      @thebestdamager7400 Год назад +5

      @@ayooobro It's about macros, not the analog keyboard. Also, controller only has a very marginal advantage compared to keyboard, whereas the macros were such a big advantage, that you could immediatly notice it.

  • @Heyght
    @Heyght Год назад +37

    Damn, this WirtualTV guy is on a roll! Videos left, right, and center. It's so sad that his fellow trackmania creator Wirtual hasn't posted in 34 months...

  • @markonikolic1386
    @markonikolic1386 Год назад +488

    The fact that wirtual has to predict all these weird bounces in order to win just proves how good of a player he actually is.

    • @Essence1123
      @Essence1123 Год назад +11

      Yeah he's so good that 10% of all of his COTD wins are cheated with software help. That's like calling a bottom tier CSGO pro "good" because they use wallhacks

    • @LorenzJahn
      @LorenzJahn Год назад

      @@Essence1123 Please delete yourself.

    • @jamesmccomb9525
      @jamesmccomb9525 Год назад +353

      ​@@Essence1123 Mad because bad.

    • @duseifert
      @duseifert Год назад +140

      ​@@Essence1123 are you sad? Who hurt you? Why are you like this?

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад +211

      @@Essence1123 Cheating is when you do something that is against the rules. You get that right?

  • @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca
    @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca Год назад +18

    Random idea: airplanes use what is called trim to adjust the pilots controls, especially in an environment where some ‘basic’ input is constantly needed.
    Similar idea could be implemented for action-keys: while holding a steer with action key (50% left for example), why not allow trim-keys to alter the limit by adjustments of 2%? That would require three extra keys: trim-up, trim-down and trim-reset.
    This would allow similar accuracy as controller has, but require that the player actually constantly adjusts the trim, to achieve that accuracy.
    The system would only be useful where tapping is especially inconsistent, or a small but smooth input is needed.

  • @CaramelCapptn
    @CaramelCapptn Год назад +41

    I remember my grandad telling me stories of wirtualTM's live bobsled win as a boy. I can't believe modern technology has allowed this masterpiece to reach me all these years later.

  • @solidnitrogen4127
    @solidnitrogen4127 Год назад +102

    I was wondering why couldn't they make steering % customizable for action keys so that everyone has access to it. Going for records requires optimization, and it should be expected that some advanced techniques are required to get the edge over others.

    • @0106johnny
      @0106johnny Год назад +27

      Yeah, especially when this is so easily achieved with a controller

    • @Bikonito
      @Bikonito Год назад +35

      They understandably don't want competition to be a settings simulator.

    • @SleepyFen
      @SleepyFen Год назад +18

      They easily could do this in the game's own key binding menu, but that would remove any advantage of playing with controllers.
      I all seriousness though, yeah, I don't think hunting maps should require fine-tuning your keybindings for every map. But the fact remains that a controller can steer at 34 % while a keyboard can't, and in a world where 0.001 seconds makes the difference between records, that's objectively an advantage that some people will have over others because they went out and bought extra equipment, even though that same argument was what got custom analoge hotkeys banned. I don't think the accusation of cheating holds any water when controller players could be accused of cheating by the same token.

    • @thebestdamager7400
      @thebestdamager7400 Год назад +6

      One difference is that controllers are cheap, while analogue keyboars are $150+.
      Another difference is that you need skill to steer consistently on a controller, while wirtual used a macro, that automatically steered at 34%. The problem are not the keyboards or controllers, but the macros.
      I know you can also steer consistently on controllers by modifying them with notches, but that is theoretically cheating as well.

    • @0106johnny
      @0106johnny Год назад +17

      @@thebestdamager7400 You can also use a steering wheel and mark the 34% with sharpie. Is that cheating?

  • @mitch-lawless
    @mitch-lawless Год назад +8

    There’s a palpable arrogance that Wirt adopts when he’s the WR holder and I love it.

  • @TechX1320
    @TechX1320 Год назад +67

    Its not cheating *at the time* because there was no definitive statement about it from Nadeo. Honestly though, even with the rules changed, people could still do this on controller, so it was just punishment either way to keyboard players. To this day, I firmly believe controller is easier than keyboard.
    I proved that to myself with one of my favorite maps. I was #23 in the world on keyboard after playing trackmania on keyboard since Sunrise released on pc some 10 years ago. I switched to controller, took me about a week to get used to and I immediately jumped down to 3rd in the world within 2 hours of playing the map.
    Keyboard will never be equal to controller, no matter what nadeo does. The ice change was stupid imo. It just ruined a shit ton of maps and didn't really fix anything.

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade Год назад +2

      If and when analog keyboards become more ubiquitous they will likely revert the rule change.

    • @TechX1320
      @TechX1320 Год назад +14

      @@inthefade I don't think so. I think the best course of action is allow players to have an adjustable slider for 4 or 5 keys in the settings for setting custom percentage inputs. Even if its set to 5% intervals, that's better than the 10% now. 10% is a big gap compared to a controller. Let me set on action key to 45% and another to 65%. Having the customizable input would be a far better response than hard set inputs that are too far apart to be competitive with controller

    • @Camerz
      @Camerz Год назад +5

      @@TechX1320 i thought it was 20% intervals, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100. i think it used to be in intervals of 10, but they reduced the number of them

    • @Chizypuff
      @Chizypuff Год назад +1

      Are you the Tech on my Indiana leaderboards? I'm 3rd behind you currently if so

    • @TechX1320
      @TechX1320 Год назад +1

      @@Chizypuff state-wise, no. I'm in ohio

  • @haph2087
    @haph2087 Год назад +7

    Mans saw a risky finish and was legit like "nah, I can make it riskier".

  • @CraigPlant55
    @CraigPlant55 Год назад +30

    I obviously understand the controversy around the 34%, and it's definitely clear that he had a slight advantage not having to worry about the steering amount in the turns, but this COTD also shows that there is more to a race than just having a macro to alter your steering, he had to make quick effective decisions, and his skill as a player was evident all throughout it.
    I do wonder if its cheating if its something everyone has access to, but it does also feel slightly pay to win in a game with no microtransactions to avoid that all together.
    Still a great watch and always love to see people succeed.

    • @ayooobro
      @ayooobro Год назад

      @@iub.9893 bruh are you dumb? most of the competition are controller players and controller is wayyy faster on bobsleigh. Wirtual won because players like Elconn, micka, jxliano, ikarus etc. failed along the way. he failed too, but recovered from his fails where they didnt

    • @CraigPlant55
      @CraigPlant55 Год назад +4

      @@iub.9893 he did crash or spin out multiple times, he is still an incredibly skilled player, but yes I agree. I guess in my mind its similar to professional athletes, they have the ability to buy the best clothing to enhance their skills, but take away those shoes or clothes they are still excellent athletes in their own right.

    • @nameless-hu4mm
      @nameless-hu4mm Год назад

      @@iub.9893 Considering that most knockouts where 4 seconds or more behind shows how incredible stupid your comment is. Also its profen that you would be faster with a controller anyway then with costum action keys, so everyone who uses a controller is cheating to someone who uses a keyboard. And yes there are actually shoes that got banned from olympics because they make you like 0.5% faster, no joke for real.

    • @haxel96
      @haxel96 Год назад +2

      @@iub.9893 The exact angle you wanted to steer was not 34% either, it was just what worked best for him, in actuality the angle changes depending on how much speed you have. A player on controller/wheel/any analog device steering perfectly would outperform 34% steering.

    • @TheLifeLaVita
      @TheLifeLaVita Год назад +1

      @@iub.9893 not wirtual's fault if people don't use controllers or analog keyboards. Makes no sense to give him the fault of the game being HEAVILY unbalanced towards keyboards on bobsleighs

  • @qweasdzxcqweasdzxcqwe
    @qweasdzxcqweasdzxcqwe Год назад +2

    the electroman adventures music playing around 14:30 brought me back

  • @justen7875
    @justen7875 Год назад +59

    My first and still only div 1 in cotd this map is nostalgic to me FeelsStrongMan

  • @separatereality7259
    @separatereality7259 Год назад +2

    25:29 ftwClix: yeah ill watch this later on yt. Little did he know he'll need to wait almost a year lol

  • @leonardosoaresfuks294
    @leonardosoaresfuks294 Год назад +16

    0:42 the shaking

  • @BerniPro
    @BerniPro Год назад +1

    at 4:33 the keyboard taps line up really nicely with the music

  • @bohitargep
    @bohitargep Год назад +4

    Wirtual uses custom action key with 34% steering, which Nadeo baned with a new competitive rule. To learn more google Wirtual rule 34.

  • @santaclaus4104
    @santaclaus4104 6 месяцев назад +2

    i love when it doesn't say if its a win in the title i get the same excitement and anxiety as if it were live

  • @aeuralix
    @aeuralix Год назад +11

    Your content is amazing, I hope you continue for another at least 34 years

  • @nixily7
    @nixily7 Год назад +2

    I started watching you 2 years ago. Truly an amazing moment. You deserve it.

  • @StAngerNo1
    @StAngerNo1 Год назад +3

    Classic Wirtual. Winning the qualifier and setting the world record and then pulling a Wirtual in round 1 to almost get eliminated.

  • @syedmohdwalirizvi8985
    @syedmohdwalirizvi8985 Год назад +1

    0:08, like a child when he gets his fav type of present on christmas

  • @LeGeekzPig
    @LeGeekzPig Год назад +7

    Just wanted to show some appreciation for the editor taking the time to cut out all the copyright audio except Wirtual’s voice in some of the rounds. That must take a lot of time!!

    • @aclonymous
      @aclonymous Год назад +1

      you'd think that wirt would've taken the copyrighted songs out of his playlists by now, but screw the editors ig

    • @Bikonito
      @Bikonito Год назад +3

      they just use an ai plugin

    • @LokelyConed
      @LokelyConed Год назад +3

      they don't take time at all, im pretty sure wirtual said in a livestream at one point that he switch to recording audio in separate channels, 1 for the game, 1 for his mic and another for the music. Doing it this way, you can just disable the sound coming from the channel you don't want. It is how a lot of streamers i know also do it

  • @sbilldmilk
    @sbilldmilk Год назад +2

    22:45 An example of the rare alphabetical priority elimination. Galeniium and Whiten have the same time but Whiten is eliminated because W comes after G alphabetically lol
    also at 23:37 the channel outro music plays when Elconn gets knocked out. hilarious timing

    • @realtimberstalker
      @realtimberstalker Год назад +1

      That was added in post. They remove copyrighted songs when they post the vods. Notice how the only sounds you can hear are from when wirtual is speaking and even then his voice is distorted.

  • @trevor4530
    @trevor4530 Год назад +8

    22:42 the fact they had the exact same time at the cutoff is really impressive

    • @mohidtahir5340
      @mohidtahir5340 Год назад +1

      GALENIIUM's faster internet saved him

    • @trilliongold
      @trilliongold Год назад +4

      @@mohidtahir5340 its actually Whiten's name that killed him. In TM ties are decided alphabetically.

    • @mohidtahir5340
      @mohidtahir5340 Год назад +1

      @@trilliongold Damn, that's equally unfair. TM should add a feature where they break tie with stone, paper, scissors.

  • @walterw8223
    @walterw8223 Год назад +2

    Reporter: _"-Are the rumors true, were a performance enhancing keyboard used?"_
    Scientist: _"-Without a doubt, there was 34% in the keyboard of Wirtual at the time of competition."_
    Scientist: _"-This is a dark day for honest French-Swedish people everywhere."_

  • @yaroslavsemenyuk4131
    @yaroslavsemenyuk4131 Год назад +28

    Jnic absolute gigachad lmao

  • @cheezyb2005
    @cheezyb2005 11 месяцев назад +1

    15:14 epic jump with sync to music

  • @OwDog4
    @OwDog4 Год назад +3

    Are we just gonna ignore the guy doing pull-ups in the background in the intro

  • @ThiagoJaqueta
    @ThiagoJaqueta Год назад +1

    Wirtual: "Bobslayer they call me"
    Kid named Bob: 💀

  • @msachin4885
    @msachin4885 Год назад +17

    That moment the competition introduces a new rule specifically because of you

  • @robertaskazlauskas98
    @robertaskazlauskas98 Год назад +1

    0:42 I was laughthing so hard when he landed and made an earthquack

  • @saramorin4792
    @saramorin4792 Год назад +3

    Riolu: only cheated in 1 map? Casual...

  • @alanb4756
    @alanb4756 Год назад +1

    1:16 is the sound of cleaning glass with newspaper.

  • @firedell1031
    @firedell1031 Год назад +9

    Winning the qualifier into losing the first round would have been PEAK comedy.

  • @ChristianS-z1h
    @ChristianS-z1h Год назад +1

    For anyone who is also amazed by the Song from 21:45 to 22:45 its "Demon (Instrumental) StreamBeats Originals" .... now i can finally finish the Cup and see how it ends xD

  • @HaraHG
    @HaraHG Год назад +6

    Nadeo : Not patching any bug in a 20 year old game.
    Also Nadeo : Bans a game mechanic themselves had implemented.

    • @Josh72769
      @Josh72769 Год назад +1

      Devs in a nutshell.

  • @WinterAyars
    @WinterAyars Год назад +2

    Wirtual ACTUALLY trolling those early knockouts.
    Congrats on the win!

  • @bluefang627
    @bluefang627 Год назад +10

    Wirtual you stopped smelling of macaroni and now you smell of peanut butter.

  • @ScramblePete
    @ScramblePete Год назад +2

    I remember this COTD, outside of some 1st of Month troll maps, I did very well on this one, div 3 if I remember correctly. Not many people knew about the AK bobsleigh turns I guess

  • @CSkivvs
    @CSkivvs Год назад +7

    Hey Elensar, just wanted to say, I noticed what you did when Wirtual was playing bad music on the stream, and I thought your solution was well done.

  • @DigitalJedi
    @DigitalJedi Год назад +1

    Yo that's me in the chat at 17:50. Never thought my first div 1 would be bobsled lol. I'm usually a dirt / grass guy.

  • @roundcube2948
    @roundcube2948 Год назад +17

    Honest question - why wouldnt they just unlock the action keys in game to be set at whatever value?

    • @SylviusTheMad
      @SylviusTheMad Год назад +12

      They basically do that by allowing analog inputs. Since PCs can have whatever input device you like, and the game supports analog inputs, there's no way to stop people from doing with physical tools exactly what Wirtual did with digital tools.
      Imagine a steering wheel with a rod you could slide into place to limit maximum steering angle.

    • @matikkkii3482
      @matikkkii3482 Год назад +2

      Gamepad disadvantage I guess?

    • @singami465
      @singami465 Год назад +9

      Because people cried.

    • @Trep3
      @Trep3 Год назад +2

      because then it would kill all the skill of this game, if you could just find the exact steering % for half the tricks that require precision and skill then whats the point anymore

    • @SylviusTheMad
      @SylviusTheMad Год назад +2

      @@Trep3 The fun, I think, is in figuring it out, not the actual execution.

  • @letszer4520
    @letszer4520 Год назад +1

    This is the most nervous I’ve ever been watching a wirtual video, entire knockout stage I was shitting myself

  • @geddybear9108
    @geddybear9108 Год назад +5

    Wirtual: Sets WR, getting consistent runs and wins qualifier.
    Also Wirtual: Lets change the run last second.
    Why are you like this?

  • @DagoDuck
    @DagoDuck Год назад +2

    0:33 I almost died from laughing at this.

  • @hexPeriod
    @hexPeriod Год назад +36

    Midori moment

  • @Encysted
    @Encysted Год назад

    11:41 hey, that’s either the Nitronic Rush or Distance sound track :D

  • @sajdak1279
    @sajdak1279 Год назад +8

    gotta love jnic's GRIND in the intro

  • @colewindemuth8247
    @colewindemuth8247 7 месяцев назад

    My favorite part of the video is his roommate doing pullups. It truly inspired me.

  • @drdripransom342
    @drdripransom342 Год назад +9

    Jnic putting those reps

  • @ionasfinser1429
    @ionasfinser1429 Год назад +2

    super cool to find out that Wirtual wanted to be a film composer... I'm a film composer at the beginning of my career and sometimes wish I was a streamer lol

  • @Hossdelux
    @Hossdelux Год назад +5

    I love this map, and I remember watching this live. This'll be good.

  • @Tyuf_
    @Tyuf_ Год назад +1

    ❌ "who is Bob and why are people slaying him?"❌
    ✔️ "who is Bobs and why are people laying him?"✔️

  • @MudakTheMultiplier
    @MudakTheMultiplier Год назад +10

    Honest question: is this keyboard doing something that you couldn't just do with an Auto Hot Key script? The thing I've been trying to wrap my head around with the change that Nadeo made was that they dropped the skill ceiling instead of bringing the opportunity to everyone to be that good, why not just allow the base game to have custom action keys? Or is there something else here that I'm missing?

    • @thrls
      @thrls Год назад +1

      Action keys were 20-40-60-80
      Optimal was exactly 34, which could only be achieved with scripts like Wirtual used here

    • @dvst_tv
      @dvst_tv Год назад +2

      yeah it seems weird that they wouldnt allow custom action keys, or even keys in 5% increments. Full custom could be deemed unfair to controller players.

    • @MudakTheMultiplier
      @MudakTheMultiplier Год назад +7

      @@thrls so then let players set it to whatever they want? I don't see how making an entire surface feel awful to drive on is better than letting everyone have access to tools that expand their options.

    • @linsetv
      @linsetv Год назад +1

      @@MudakTheMultiplier but then it's not about being consistent with what you have anymore but rather find the best percentage of actionkeys in a cotd like this.

    • @MudakTheMultiplier
      @MudakTheMultiplier Год назад +7

      @@linsetv but controller players can already do that so why kneecap the keyboard players?

  • @bigpresents10
    @bigpresents10 Год назад +1

    Elconn livin rent free in wirtuals mind

  • @Some_Awe
    @Some_Awe Год назад +3

    this map makes me really really miss old ice

  • @kingqball1
    @kingqball1 Год назад +1

    I still love how on your map that you made that everyone, save for the 4 in your vid that beat your times, said was impossible could not beat even your none analog time. and only one beat your anlong time if I remember right. and the part that makes it even better is so many of them tried to do it with an analog keyboard and couldn't beat either of your times. the hole debate just proves people don't know how to cope with not being good enough since you beat all but a handful with just action keys.

  • @grahamadamson8396
    @grahamadamson8396 Год назад +4

    A new rule called rule 34% is being popularized in the trackmania community hoping to ban the use of analog keyboard exploitation for more info look up trackmania rule 34.

    • @satansbarman
      @satansbarman Год назад

      Can't help but think IF I did look that up, I'd find some really weird stuff, good troll though 😅

  • @keeganshulista1446
    @keeganshulista1446 Год назад +1

    no comments about how at 15:14 the jump is perfectly timed with the song

  • @ChonkyChonker
    @ChonkyChonker Год назад +6

    WIll we ever see the return of Mufat in a Cup 🤔

    • @WIKKRMUSIC
      @WIKKRMUSIC Год назад

      who's mufat

    • @TrevorJNagy
      @TrevorJNagy Год назад

      @@WIKKRMUSIC Mufat deez nutz
      (It's a joke that was played on Wirtual and he smurfed under the name)

    • @WIKKRMUSIC
      @WIKKRMUSIC Год назад

      @@TrevorJNagy alas, you have played directly into my plan to let people experience the joy of Pulling a Fast One™ on an unsuspecting victim

    • @ChonkyChonker
      @ChonkyChonker Год назад

      @@WIKKRMUSIC :)

  • @Lizankuka
    @Lizankuka Год назад +3

    LOVE YOU WIRTUAL!

  • @unforseenconsequense
    @unforseenconsequense Год назад +1

    Looking forward to seeing Wirtual actually do a bobsleigh run IRL the man is goated

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert4124 Год назад +5

    The analogue keyboard ban seems a little odd to me. Controllers are allowed - ie analogue controls. It's very easy to add curves to reduce sensitivity for them just like the keyboard curves used. But even more important, joysticks can be used. You can have incredible delicacy for a joystick, mine can move nearly a foot in each direction, adjustable down to a few inches. That sort of range allows far more delicacy than anything an analogue keyboard allows, yet is still competition viable. Presumably wheels are also allowed with likely still more range.

  • @wircoal
    @wircoal Год назад

    Gotta love the flatmate doing fingerboarding in the background, get those sausages strong mate !

  • @megamanlinkfan
    @megamanlinkfan Год назад +11

    I don't think it should be banned from use. Its a pretty cool peace of tech and a lot of esports don't care if your setup is $5000 or $500. the top players in anything are gonna have the best gear regardless. Also this was a nail-biting video dude so many scary finishes lol.

    • @maskettaman1488
      @maskettaman1488 Год назад +4

      Agreed. Seems backwards to ban the next iteration of keyboards. If using a more optimal input device is cheating then using a controller shouldn't be legal either

    • @dogtato
      @dogtato Год назад +1

      he can still use the keyboard, which lets you do partial keypresses, just can't use software to hit specific values

    • @Litruv
      @Litruv Год назад +3

      @@dogtato man, that's just a case of where's the software stored at this point. We'll come up with keyboards with dials soon enough.

    • @BSEUNHIR
      @BSEUNHIR Год назад

      The way he had it set up was basically an out of game macro. That's always a no no if it gives you an advantage.

    • @CaroFDoom
      @CaroFDoom Год назад +2

      @@Litruv the software for the record is stored on the keyboard itself and edited through a website
      i think expanding custom action keys would have been a way cooler way to equalise it rather than banning nonlinear analog input (ex. dxtweak)
      i cant wait for controller notches to crop up lol

  • @VIOLENTxLJx
    @VIOLENTxLJx Год назад +1

    *i think* I remember watching you change your keyboard acting key settings when you were live. bobsleigh is my favorite style too GGs in the chat

  • @dathaniel9403
    @dathaniel9403 Год назад +3

    This is 100% valid, you didn’t break any rules. Even Nadeo has said so. You never hid the fact that you had action keys between the default action keys, and it wasn’t against the rules when this map was played. You’re not a cheater.

  • @ferrosplice8460
    @ferrosplice8460 Год назад +49

    Because of Wirtual using software to cap his key presses at 34% steering, Nadeo actually added a rule that using such software is considered cheating. Search "Nadeo Rule 34" for more info.

  • @Guigiggs
    @Guigiggs Год назад +1

    The fact that this live was almost one year ago is the impressive part !!!

  • @mewangabory5961
    @mewangabory5961 Год назад +1

    Careful Bob, the Bob-Slayer is coming...

  • @vryder
    @vryder Год назад +3

    Dobra robota!

  • @th1mer581
    @th1mer581 Год назад +2

    for anyone wondering the maps name is "tricolor"

  • @URAGOOFUS
    @URAGOOFUS Год назад +6

    jnic in the back Xdd

  • @Embers-nd4vm
    @Embers-nd4vm 11 дней назад

    "I didn't say he would fail"
    2 seconds earlier: "knock him out knock him out!"

  • @youngluck66
    @youngluck66 Год назад +4

    He's literally using software to do something that's humanly impossible. That's no different than slowing down game.

    • @Jellopuff_TAS
      @Jellopuff_TAS Год назад +7

      No, it's completely different from slowing down the game because if you look really closely, you'll notice that he's not slowing down the game. The reason software action keys are banned is because they shift the focus away from consistent keyboard driving or precise controller driving in exchange for just having the right equipment. Sure, it's easy to see how that's a bad thing in hindsight, but it's not at all comparable to literally changing the way the game runs.

    • @Vincentoist
      @Vincentoist Год назад +5

      34% steering is literally not possible on keyboard but possible on controller, what are you smoking

    • @Jellopuff_TAS
      @Jellopuff_TAS Год назад +2

      ​I'm not trying to argue that it is possible on a standard keyboard, I know it's not. What I'm moreso trying to argue here is not that custom action keys are fair but rather that they're not comparable to straight up slowing the game down. Yes, it is an unfair advantage to use custom action keys, but at least you're still viewing the game in the same way. Slowing a game down, as you would for a TAS, completely changes how you respond to the game's visual feedback. Just because both require modifications doesn't mean they're automatically the same.

    • @Vincentoist
      @Vincentoist Год назад +4

      @@Jellopuff_TAS i was replying to the original comment

    • @Jellopuff_TAS
      @Jellopuff_TAS Год назад +1

      @@Vincentoist Ah my b

  • @Setrax
    @Setrax Год назад +1

    The Bob Slayer!
    Every Bob out there: .......Uhm

  • @fluffyx1676
    @fluffyx1676 Год назад +1

    "The bobslayer they call me"
    The kid named bob: 😳

  • @Lottililex
    @Lottililex Год назад +1

    They call me the ‘Bobslayer’
    Every Bob in chat: 😧

  • @dbgrfdg
    @dbgrfdg Год назад +2

    I meet my now wife during this cotd in Wirtual chat. Our son is leaving for college soon and I think I might pick up TrackMania again

  • @lisashana1869
    @lisashana1869 11 месяцев назад

    Wirtual : "The bob slayer they call me !"
    Anyone named 'Bob' :
    x-x

  • @fluffy9299
    @fluffy9299 Год назад +1

    22:58 someone predicted ELCONN would be out that round and he was right

  • @ondrejcibula4542
    @ondrejcibula4542 Год назад +1

    JNic working out in the beginning of the vid is the best😂

  • @Foxstorm1604
    @Foxstorm1604 Год назад +2

    As an outsider, I think blaming a form of analog input and banning it while keeping others legal in the game is an incredibly stupid concept.
    Either ban all analog inputs or keep all of them legal.
    You want to do better bobsleighs? Use a controller, a steering wheel, hell get a cheap steering wheel with pedals and use only the pedals to steer left and right.
    Capping other people who have more money than you just because you are poor is very very stupid. So what if analog keyboards would become meta? Lots of games have a high cost of entry and that doesn't break the game.

  • @didierneeferc
    @didierneeferc Год назад

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Congratz!!! (Btw I love the people saying Hi RUclips in the Chat of Twitch haha)

  • @shadowlordalpha
    @shadowlordalpha Год назад +1

    ah yes, wirtual getting the whole community to basically riot

  • @cavemann_
    @cavemann_ Год назад +1

    That feel when cotd is so old he had to clarify it was before the drama...