I've played with only a snare several times, I literally only do one single pattern and that's the classic brush scrub rudiment (one hand doing circles the other doing the half shuffle)
Sticks and brushes being different voices rather than different volumes, that’s something I’ve discovered too. After months of playing brushes quietly like you said some drummers do. Excellent points!
This is a wonderful video, thanks for making it! Reminds me that some of the best nights of music I ever heard were a duo with John Von Ohlen playing brushes on a phone book with Kenny Poole on guitar. Another favorite is Shelly Manne playing brushes on a suitcase with Barney Kessel on their recording of “Sweet Sue.”
Great video and could not agree more! I've spent a lot of time with brushes and have slowly discovered how deep you can go with them. The snare feels like a totally new instrument with brushes and can do things sticks cannot. They are also very personal. No two drummers sound the same with brushes in hand because there are infinite nuances in sound. It's too bad they don't get as much attention as they used to.
I've played a few gigs with just snare and brushes, and over 1500 with snare/brushes/hats, so I fully agree with your advice. Here are a few clips that reinforce your comments on intensity: ruclips.net/p/PLcR0BS06oKVOKsNDaREjX5IRD-tNAlfBT
Very useful advice! Loving brushes more than anything else when playing drums, I totally agree with all you said. In my view, especially Ed Thigpen proved how incredibly swinging brushes can be, when he played with the Oscar Peterson trio. But let me add some lesser known examples from my German background. In the 1960s and 1970s there was a very popular big band, led by Bert Kaempfert. He had a drummer who played brushes throughout most of the big band arrangements, and in a very tasteful, almost minimalistic style, at that. It worked just fine and contributed immensely to the unique sound of this band. And I also had the chance to watch one of the best brush players ever in many concerts, the Swiss drummer Charly Antolini, who is not that well known in the USA, for all I know. Just listen to this: ruclips.net/video/jH6rA2RV59g/видео.html.
I completely agree about Ed Thigpen. I love Charly Antolini as well and I hope I have the chance to hear him in person one day. Thanks for watching and for your comments!
I would need to get used to playing with just snare and brushes. Most drummers in my area (both beginners and experienced) solely want to play punk and metal. Me being good at snare + brush would help me stand out and get gigs noone wants to get
Great advice, Kevin! I never heard of Sol Yaged until you mentioned that quote in one of your Schoenberg/Peplowski/Dorn Goodman Trio videos. I love that quote and think of it a lot when I find myself playing brushes too quiet or sticks too loud.
Kevin Dorn knows what’s up.
From another who does, as well!😉
I've played with only a snare several times, I literally only do one single pattern and that's the classic brush scrub rudiment (one hand doing circles the other doing the half shuffle)
Sticks and brushes being different voices rather than different volumes, that’s something I’ve discovered too. After months of playing brushes quietly like you said some drummers do. Excellent points!
This is perfect. I need to play a gig with just brushes on a snare in a couple of weeks.
As always ,excellent information!
This is a wonderful video, thanks for making it! Reminds me that some of the best nights of music I ever heard were a duo with John Von Ohlen playing brushes on a phone book with Kenny Poole on guitar. Another favorite is Shelly Manne playing brushes on a suitcase with Barney Kessel on their recording of “Sweet Sue.”
Great video and could not agree more! I've spent a lot of time with brushes and have slowly discovered how deep you can go with them. The snare feels like a totally new instrument with brushes and can do things sticks cannot. They are also very personal. No two drummers sound the same with brushes in hand because there are infinite nuances in sound. It's too bad they don't get as much attention as they used to.
Solid advice Mr. Dorn! Thanks for the listening recommendations too!
Hey my man, well cool lesson as always!
Thank you.
Good information but it would have been nice to have a demonstration on a practice pad or table.
Thanks
Hope that you could still get something from it. Thanks for watching!
I use stick-grip brushes so I can get a really nice (brush-articulated) rim shot, as needed.
I love the near-Buddhist whimsy of a drum video with no drums. How valuable! Hail THE HOTEL ROOM SERIES!
I've played a few gigs with just snare and brushes, and over 1500 with snare/brushes/hats, so I fully agree with your advice. Here are a few clips that reinforce your comments on intensity: ruclips.net/p/PLcR0BS06oKVOKsNDaREjX5IRD-tNAlfBT
Very useful advice! Loving brushes more than anything else when playing drums, I totally agree with all you said. In my view, especially Ed Thigpen proved how incredibly swinging brushes can be, when he played with the Oscar Peterson trio. But let me add some lesser known examples from my German background. In the 1960s and 1970s there was a very popular big band, led by Bert Kaempfert. He had a drummer who played brushes throughout most of the big band arrangements, and in a very tasteful, almost minimalistic style, at that. It worked just fine and contributed immensely to the unique sound of this band. And I also had the chance to watch one of the best brush players ever in many concerts, the Swiss drummer Charly Antolini, who is not that well known in the USA, for all I know. Just listen to this: ruclips.net/video/jH6rA2RV59g/видео.html.
I completely agree about Ed Thigpen. I love Charly Antolini as well and I hope I have the chance to hear him in person one day. Thanks for watching and for your comments!
I would need to get used to playing with just snare and brushes. Most drummers in my area (both beginners and experienced) solely want to play punk and metal. Me being good at snare + brush would help me stand out and get gigs noone wants to get
Yes, spend some time with it!
At least brushes on a book or magazine would have helped illustrate your point. Thanks anyway
I wish I had done that, but hopefully I'm demonstrating it here: ruclips.net/video/XHcBuUnwNIA/видео.htmlsi=6GTGL8m543dO2MVe
Great advice, Kevin! I never heard of Sol Yaged until you mentioned that quote in one of your Schoenberg/Peplowski/Dorn Goodman Trio videos. I love that quote and think of it a lot when I find myself playing brushes too quiet or sticks too loud.
Thanks! Yeah, I thought that was such a great observation!
@@kevindorn I had to look him up. Of course he is one of those "Why should I ever leave New York?" guys!😅
@@vipermad358 He was a character! I feel lucky that I got to know him and play with him.