"Simpler times"? 1975? You mean when the president was literally being impeached for felony crimes and theft, the entire country was in disarray? You have some rosy glasses, my friend. Unless you're talking about the pre-internet/pre-cell phone world, in which case, I'm with you.
This sure does bring back nice memories. In 1979 i was 10 years old and i was going to the movies with my then best friend at least once a week, every week, from the 1970s-1980s. We were both a couple of fanatics about the movies. We talked, read, ate, drank, and slept the movies (and yes, we religiously watched siskel and ebert together every week on his living room tv). We tried to see every new movie that came out regardless of plot, genre (he loved horror movies, I preferred comedy), critics reviews, or who starred in it. And Going In Style just happened to be one of the many new movies we saw that year because it just came out. There certainly was something magical about the movie theatergoing experience in itself in those years. Going to the movies every week in the 1970s-1980s with my best friend is among my most fondest, happiest memories of my entire life.
I wonder if people like you can possibly look out the window of the way back machine and realize that people that are 10 years old now are having that same experience. The theater going experience didn't change jackass. You got older. But unfortunately your fucking generation has decided that you didn't get older everything else just got shittier. It's fucking annoying. You just wrote fucking novel about how you used to go to the movies with your fucking friends as if that is somehow unique to the fucking 70s. More people go to the theater now then they did it in the fucking 70s and 80s. 100% fact.
Siskel nailed it on his review of the incredibly creative and painfully self-critical movie "All that Jazz". While I'm surprised to hear that the same movie seemed to go over Ebert's head, who usually has a very intelligent understanding of what a movie is trying to accomplish.
From this episode: "All That Jazz" and "Going In Style" have stood the test of time. "All That Jazz" is dazzling and "Going In Style" is the definition of bittersweet. Both are special and one-of-a-kind.
@@leamanc Roger gets it as wrong as Siskel, all the time. Neither "always" got it right. We like Ebert because he was the funnier one who was quick to anger, but he missed the boat as much as Gene did. Raising Arizona, Clockwork Orange, The King Of Comedy and virtually every David Lynch movie come to mind. I love Ebert (and Siskel for that matter), but one never watched them for anything else other than the banter, and the previews. They panned "The King Of Comedy", and I went right out to see it, immediately, just based on the clips they showed, I didn't need them to tell me if it was good or bad or thumbs up or down.
Things are so relative. The fact that Ebert was saying that people ask, "Why don't they make movies like they used to", in the '70's, arguably the greatest decade of movies of the 20th century (as said, arguably), shows just how generational movies are. They just didn't know how good they had it.
I saw Going in Style when I was 7 or 8 years old. I loved it then and I love it now. Written & Directed by the great Martin Brest when he was only 27 years old. Brest went on to direct Beverly Hills Cop, Midnight Run, Scent of a Woman and Meet Joe Black. Sadly, after writing and directing the huge disappointment that was Gigli in 2003, Martin Brest has yet to make another film and that is the biggest travesty of them all.
I saw it as well when I was a kid, and I loved it, and yeah, it holds up great. A total mystery why that film doesn't have a higher profile, but it being about elderly people has something to do with it. There is a fantastic movie from the 1930s about growing old in America called "Make Way For Tomorrow", it flopped at the box office and has only a cult following around it, like "Going In Style". Great movie.
For me All That Jazz was the best picture of 1979. Just love it! Going In Style was fun, didn't like The Electric Horseman, didn't see the other two movies.
For sure! I was only a child when All That Jazz was released. What I wouldn’t give to hop back into a time machine and watch this masterpiece on the big screen.
Funny story: around 2010, I bought a GE Hybrid water heater that had the same color scheme of the robot from Lost in Space. It also kind of reminded me of it. Then around 2016, it was replaced with another GE hybrid water heater that, kid you not, had the same color scheme and appearance of the BOB/VINCENT robots in The Black Hole.
They were really committed to having a direct transition between film conversations for each of these movies no matter what lmao. "Well a film Disney might have made..." "Well a film I thought was actually a good holiday movie..."
Personally, I really liked the 1979 movie, "Cuba," and it had a somewhat impressive plot as well. The cast was even also somewhat good although the casting of three actors, who are Caucasians, by the way, Brooke Adams, Chris Sarandon, and Martin Balsam, as Cuban characters were total mistakes in the end.
Watching these old shows has been interesting to me. When these guys disagree, they set out their view, maybe take a couple playful jabs at the other, and move on amicably. It feels like even this simple back and forth about movies can't exist today. Everyone is divided into camps in a zero sum game in which the other side doesn't simply have an honest difference of opinion, but instead are the embodiment of evil.
i watched Cuba for the first time today, i mean im watchin all of connery movies, so this was in my list for a long time, i agree with siskel, that its intelligent and similar to whats happening now in afghanistan, but i can also agree with ebert that it can just be violence for violence sake, but its intelligent enough to get a point across maybe not so in others, i didnt watch the other movies, i might, the only ones i watched were the black hole, and the old people robbery movie, all that jazz, i watched all of roy snider work, and he is an amazing actor, he is not just the guy from jaws, i think people should watch his stuff. i also think bautista the actor, and wrestler should play buatista the cuban dictator in a movie at some point. my review of cuba is in my CinemaEscape page in Letterboxd.
I have only seen Going in Style and All that Jazz. Liked Going in Style. George Burns was wonderful in it. All that Jazz was inventive and clever to a point but was just so weird it sort of lost my interest.
I loved and still love the Black Hole. I have to laugh at these two clowns who blast it for bad visual effects but then praise Clash of the Titans. Clash was ok, but the visual effects were hokey then and look terrible now. I think the Black Hole holds up fine.
This was the first of 2 Linda Blair movies Ebert saved for Dog of the Week: "Hell Night" made it two years later (and when Ebert says "starring Linda Blair" Siskel is heard to make a disgusted sound). Kind of tacky imo.
Was always a fan of the electric Horseman but your opinion was pretty much the consensus of a lot of people. I did like the story I like the cinematography and also in a small part Willie Nelson was very entertaining
Well, if George Lucas can turn to Japanese theatre for HIS opus; Disney can turn to Shakespeare. You can't condemn the film for being unoriginal, guys. It's not exactly something Disney is known for. But I have to admit - the movie bored me to tears. Admittedly, they got Roddy McDowell and Slim Pickens to voice the obligatory cute robots, so it was fun in spots, and that's still Yvette Mimieux there. I think I appreciate it now more than I did then, but it's still a boring piece of work with much outdated special effects. And, you cast your space adventure film with Ernest Borgnine and Anthony Perkins? Ernest (Marty) Borgnine as an intellectual? Not even in science fiction, people. Didn't buy it in Airwolf either. And who could have known in 1980 that Disney would one day OWN Lucasfilm and make REAL Star Wars films. Real being a technical term since there IS no Star Wars without Lucas, Disney told Lucas to get stuffed when he proposed a frame for the sequel films, and I can't STAND the sequels anyway.
I just watched All That Jazz for the first time and wanted to hear what the boys thought of it. I guess I’m siding with Roger, though I didn’t even like the dancing/music. Roy Scheider’s performance was interesting to watch but everything going on around him was cringeworthy. And Roger is right about how much it rips off 8 1/2. Based on the comments here, it looks like I’m in the minority.
Really?? This fantastic scene of Redford being chased by cops on horseback is more electrifying than any car chase. And the ending where they release the horse into the wild was touching.
There's literally 2 live scenes between Fonda and Redford in the film. It's also about a broken down, once great man who refund his foul through a $12M racehorse.
Watching these old Siskel and Ebert shows is like looking at a time capsule. It makes me nostalgic and yearning for the simpler times in the country.
"Simpler times"? 1975? You mean when the president was literally being impeached for felony crimes and theft, the entire country was in disarray? You have some rosy glasses, my friend. Unless you're talking about the pre-internet/pre-cell phone world, in which case, I'm with you.
This sure does bring back nice memories.
In 1979 i was 10 years old and i was going to the movies with my then best friend at least once a week, every week, from the 1970s-1980s. We were both a couple of fanatics about the movies. We talked, read, ate, drank, and slept the movies (and yes, we religiously watched siskel and ebert together every week on his living room tv).
We tried to see every new movie that came out regardless of plot, genre (he loved horror movies, I preferred comedy), critics reviews, or who starred in it. And Going In Style just happened to be one of the many new movies we saw that year because it just came out. There certainly was something magical about the movie theatergoing experience in itself in those years.
Going to the movies every week in the 1970s-1980s with my best friend is among my most fondest, happiest memories of my entire life.
I wonder if people like you can possibly look out the window of the way back machine and realize that people that are 10 years old now are having that same experience. The theater going experience didn't change jackass. You got older. But unfortunately your fucking generation has decided that you didn't get older everything else just got shittier. It's fucking annoying. You just wrote fucking novel about how you used to go to the movies with your fucking friends as if that is somehow unique to the fucking 70s. More people go to the theater now then they did it in the fucking 70s and 80s. 100% fact.
Siskel nailed it on his review of the incredibly creative and painfully self-critical movie "All that Jazz". While I'm surprised to hear that the same movie seemed to go over Ebert's head, who usually has a very intelligent understanding of what a movie is trying to accomplish.
From this episode: "All That Jazz" and "Going In Style" have stood the test of time. "All That Jazz" is dazzling and "Going In Style" is the definition of bittersweet. Both are special and one-of-a-kind.
CUBA does.
Really surprised Roger didn't like All That Jazz and Gene did. Usually Roger's takes stand the test of time better than Gene's. Not this time though.
@@leamanc Roger gets it as wrong as Siskel, all the time. Neither "always" got it right. We like Ebert because he was the funnier one who was quick to anger, but he missed the boat as much as Gene did. Raising Arizona, Clockwork Orange, The King Of Comedy and virtually every David Lynch movie come to mind. I love Ebert (and Siskel for that matter), but one never watched them for anything else other than the banter, and the previews. They panned "The King Of Comedy", and I went right out to see it, immediately, just based on the clips they showed, I didn't need them to tell me if it was good or bad or thumbs up or down.
Things are so relative. The fact that Ebert was saying that people ask, "Why don't they make movies like they used to", in the '70's, arguably the greatest decade of movies of the 20th century (as said, arguably), shows just how generational movies are. They just didn't know how good they had it.
That's kind of a brilliant take on All That Jazz that Siskel makes. Fosse loves the dancing in the film but hates the story. Which is his own story.
I saw Going in Style when I was 7 or 8 years old. I loved it then and I love it now. Written & Directed by the great Martin Brest when he was only 27 years old. Brest went on to direct Beverly Hills Cop, Midnight Run, Scent of a Woman and Meet Joe Black. Sadly, after writing and directing the huge disappointment that was Gigli in 2003, Martin Brest has yet to make another film and that is the biggest travesty of them all.
I saw it as well when I was a kid, and I loved it, and yeah, it holds up great. A total mystery why that film doesn't have a higher profile, but it being about elderly people has something to do with it. There is a fantastic movie from the 1930s about growing old in America called "Make Way For Tomorrow", it flopped at the box office and has only a cult following around it, like "Going In Style". Great movie.
Going in Style starts out as a lightweight caper film but it ends up being surprisingly dark and profound.
Great movie, so happy to see other people remember it.
Yes…
Going In Style is a great film… I’ve never forgotten it… George Burns is extraordinary….
For me All That Jazz was the best picture of 1979. Just love it!
Going In Style was fun, didn't like The Electric Horseman, didn't see the other two movies.
For sure! I was only a child when All That Jazz was released. What I wouldn’t give to hop back into a time machine and watch this masterpiece on the big screen.
Gene got it right
Funny story:
around 2010, I bought a GE Hybrid water heater that had the same color scheme of the robot from Lost in Space. It also kind of reminded me of it.
Then around 2016, it was replaced with another GE hybrid water heater that, kid you not, had the same color scheme and appearance of the BOB/VINCENT robots in The Black Hole.
Black Hole, great movie. Definitely made more for an older audience
They were really committed to having a direct transition between film conversations for each of these movies no matter what lmao. "Well a film Disney might have made..." "Well a film I thought was actually a good holiday movie..."
Crazy to hear “Disney’s answer to Star Wars” and then go onto see them cannibalize it
Hell of a week for movies if you ask me
Hell of a year!
"'The Black Hole' is being billed as Disney's answer to 'Star Wars.'"
Turns out that Disney's actual answer to "Star Wars" was buying "Star Wars."
and then Alderaan'd the franchise
I've always enjoyed "Scavenger Hunt". Not high art by any means but a lot of mindless fun and quite a few laughs.
5:43 "Can disney make a good film anymore?"
2023:
"Romance is going to be big in the 80s" :thinks of the great romantic comedies we got that decade: Good job Ebert
I guess you didn’t see Romancing the Bone😁
Personally, I really liked the 1979 movie, "Cuba," and it had a somewhat impressive plot as well. The cast was even also somewhat good although the casting of three actors, who are Caucasians, by the way, Brooke Adams, Chris Sarandon, and Martin Balsam, as Cuban characters were total mistakes in the end.
Going in Style 1979, great movie- funny and sad. George Burns and the others have great chemistry. Original better than the remake.
To think The Black Hole and Stars Wars came out at the same time is hard to believe--Star Wars is (light) years ahead in every way.
The Black Hole was released in 1979, two years after Star Wars.
Ebert said it looked like a salt shaker...giggle
Watching these old shows has been interesting to me. When these guys disagree, they set out their view, maybe take a couple playful jabs at the other, and move on amicably. It feels like even this simple back and forth about movies can't exist today. Everyone is divided into camps in a zero sum game in which the other side doesn't simply have an honest difference of opinion, but instead are the embodiment of evil.
i watched Cuba for the first time today, i mean im watchin all of connery movies, so this was in my list for a long time, i agree with siskel, that its intelligent and similar to whats happening now in afghanistan, but i can also agree with ebert that it can just be violence for violence sake, but its intelligent enough to get a point across maybe not so in others, i didnt watch the other movies, i might, the only ones i watched were the black hole, and the old people robbery movie, all that jazz, i watched all of roy snider work, and he is an amazing actor, he is not just the guy from jaws, i think people should watch his stuff. i also think bautista the actor, and wrestler should play buatista the cuban dictator in a movie at some point. my review of cuba is in my CinemaEscape page in Letterboxd.
I have never heard of The Black Hole?
I have only seen Going in Style and All that Jazz. Liked Going in Style. George Burns was wonderful in it. All that Jazz was inventive and clever to a point but was just so weird it sort of lost my interest.
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I loved and still love the Black Hole.
I have to laugh at these two clowns who blast it for bad visual effects but then praise Clash of the Titans.
Clash was ok, but the visual effects were hokey then and look terrible now.
I think the Black Hole holds up fine.
This was the first of 2 Linda Blair movies Ebert saved for Dog of the Week: "Hell Night" made it two years later (and when Ebert says "starring Linda Blair" Siskel is heard to make a disgusted sound). Kind of tacky imo.
I’ll take either one of the “dogs” over The Electric Horseman
Right?? Boring as hell.
Disney answer to Star Wars Obvious didn't work so the ended up buying Star Wars years later 😁
the black hole is awesome
I remember being bored stiff by The Electric Horseman in the theater.
Was always a fan of the electric Horseman but your opinion was pretty much the consensus of a lot of people. I did like the story I like the cinematography and also in a small part Willie Nelson was very entertaining
Well, if George Lucas can turn to Japanese theatre for HIS opus; Disney can turn to Shakespeare. You can't condemn the film for being unoriginal, guys. It's not exactly something Disney is known for.
But I have to admit - the movie bored me to tears. Admittedly, they got Roddy McDowell and Slim Pickens to voice the obligatory cute robots, so it was fun in spots, and that's still Yvette Mimieux there. I think I appreciate it now more than I did then, but it's still a boring piece of work with much outdated special effects. And, you cast your space adventure film with Ernest Borgnine and Anthony Perkins? Ernest (Marty) Borgnine as an intellectual? Not even in science fiction, people. Didn't buy it in Airwolf either.
And who could have known in 1980 that Disney would one day OWN Lucasfilm and make REAL Star Wars films. Real being a technical term since there IS no Star Wars without Lucas, Disney told Lucas to get stuffed when he proposed a frame for the sequel films, and I can't STAND the sequels anyway.
I just watched All That Jazz for the first time and wanted to hear what the boys thought of it. I guess I’m siding with Roger, though I didn’t even like the dancing/music. Roy Scheider’s performance was interesting to watch but everything going on around him was cringeworthy. And Roger is right about how much it rips off 8 1/2. Based on the comments here, it looks like I’m in the minority.
I saw the Black Hole in 1979 and I was eager to see it because I loved Disney. Ugh! What a BORING film! And I saw this at age 7!
But no WOKE in this Disney movie.
This is a boring movie. There isn't even a love scene between the two. Nothing really happens. Electric Horseman isn't worth anyone's time.
Really?? This fantastic scene of Redford being chased by cops on horseback is more electrifying than any car chase. And the ending where they release the horse into the wild was touching.
There's literally 2 live scenes between Fonda and Redford in the film. It's also about a broken down, once great man who refund his foul through a $12M racehorse.
It is dreadfully boring.
I've never been able to watch the black hole all the way to the end. So boring.
DIdn't like ELECTRIC HORSEMAN... .The rest are good... ALL THAT JAZZ is bizarre and great.. GOING IN STYLE , THE BLACK HOLE are fantastic.