Moving Bees Out-That Bee Man
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Oh no! I saw the video and was excited. Now I’m bummed. I’m really feeling bummed with you. You are 100% correct on the mites and such. Turning a blind eye to the mites and generalizing the blame to pesticides which is easily remedied is something I see in our club all the time and it frustrates me. I don’t care who treats or doesn’t and with what you treat with. I don’t argue with any of that because bees are the responsibility of the beekeeper. People can do what they gotta do, not for me to tell them. But for goodness sakes quit trying to make me deny the mites folks. Know your enemy and fight how you choose, but the enemy is still present. I feel so bad for you Brad. I feel you when you say you aren’t sure you can handle it. But with some time and thought, you’ll figure out a plan in some way, shape, form, or fashion. Something else here. Viewers that are beekeepers can relate to a lot of this, but one thing not all can relate to is what the stress is of the loss coupled with you going forward with this video. As a video creator, these are the hard videos. We know we have an audience and we know we must go forward, but it’s hard to show the bad times. It’s an added layer of stress. Take a break and gather your thoughts brother and we’ll wait patiently as you figure out the path forward. This is your livelihood and I know it weighs on you. I will be in prayer for you for the wisdom you need to move through this. I literally mentioned in an upcoming EFB video of the challenges you and Ian had only a year or so ago and how it is a time that we are concerned for you guys when you have to deal with this kind of thing. We here are mostly hobbyists and sideliners who watch you, not depending on every aspect of the operation. But as I mentioned, we adapt and overcome as you’ve done in the past. How that will look this time and the path forward, we don’t know, but we are hopeful.
Mike I so agree that it’s hard when you guys post the videos with the bad times..but the good thing about posting is that you realize how much support you have from others who know what your going through!! We got all you guys!! Brothers & Sisters in Christ and bees!! 💕💞
Thank you, Mike! I appreciate that!
Thanks to you too, Meloney!
Hi Brad
I was glad to see the video you posted
About moving the bees out side and then realised how many dead outs you have got this year it’s hard to take and rebuild you have a lot of good friends
That won’t watch you struggle
Ivan 🇬🇧
I appreciate that!
ruclips.net/video/tuJlgzcQWAg/видео.htmlfeature=shared saw you talking with the guys on one of your livestreams a while back, and you posed the question of what would happen if you removed the brood from a colony for mite control. Thank you, that got me thinking, and i found the video i posted here. I am really excited to try this method this year because i have no interest chemically treating bees. A bunch of nucs and mite removal too, sounds like a good deal. I am sorry to see the severe winter loss and I pray YAHUAH blesses your rebuilding this year. Maybe try out this "total brood removal" and see what happens. Thanks again for all your inspiration.
Yes, Ralph was exactly who I learned that from. I appreciate that!
Brad, that is rough and words can't help heal but hopefully they encourage. You have a ton of resources there and great knowledge. You will figure out what you need to change and it will be better. Those blasted mites make raising bees so much harder than it should be. Did the apitablets seem to help? I'm wondering OA sponges or the apitablet maybe one idea to consider. Brad, you can do this one step at a time one day at a time. Best wishes and prayers.
Thanks, Russell. I will be talking about the Apitablets in my upcoming videos, once I have some information on what they did or did not do. Thanks for your encouragement!
WOW there is nothing I can really say about this. It is like we take one step forward and two steps back. The people or it may have been your bee inspector Ian uses to come in to do testing for all kind of things is there anyway you could get that done to just give you a idea on what direction to start with. Just a thought. We are with you. Thanks for the update.
Thanks, Kathy!
Wow, so so sorry. Two years back to back. I truly feel bad. There are so many factors to beekeeping that make or break us and the bees' survival. Last season in May, I cooked 70 nucs on the truck over night, they were so hot the wax melted, honey ran out the tailgate on the ground. I just about lost my mind when I saw the loss. I had a very bad day cleaning up the mess, and it still bothers me when i think about it. It was totally my fault. Then, in August, I starved a nuc yard with 90 colonies, I managed to selvage them, but the population didn't rebuild going into fall. I just opened up that nuc yard yesterday to see what survived the winter. 40 dead and the other 50 small enough to be called dead, only two of those 50 look great. It happens. We just need to find the strength to try again. I know hearing about my loss doesn't make your loss any easier. I was debating posting a video of my loss, but after seeing your courage, I think I will. Thanks for posting.
Thanks Brian. We either try again or not. I'm not quitting yet!
Keep the ol' head up. Your equipment will be back to full by the end of the year. One common denominator I have noticed after watching all these you tubers is when people get to the numbers they want they stop splitting so hard and then start having heavy loses and poor productivity of Queens. So that being said those frequent brood breaks and newer queens could be the key. When your new and splitting and splitting and splitting, things are just fresh. But I have no doubt you will be swimming in bees by the end of the year, and come out of winter great next year. Also maybe have some experimental colonies to leave out next winter, let them ride and see how the pop out on the other side. Thanks for sharing Brad your still a champ in my books.
Thanks, Homer. That's a good point about splitting. I'll keep that in mind.
Splitting.. thanks❤
Maybe you will need to buy some nucs so you can fulfill orders. Probably the best thing to do.
Might be!
So discouraging! We work so hard, I agree with your opinion on influx of vermin from Asia. We learn from these issues and I'm sure the rebuild will be fantastic and very satisfying! Bee mindful of your limitations taking it one step at a time!. Very best of luck, Brad!👍😊
Thanks, Robert.
I am very sorry for your winter losses. I think the reason is a mites. You mentioned that you noticed the resistance of the amitraz. The year before last, at the apiary where I worked then, towards the end of summer, we noticed that there was a very high level of mites, although we used apivar in the spring. We sent the bees for testing and the laboratory revealed resistance to amitraz. We treated with formic acid and oxalic acid in the fall, but it was too late. In the spring, losses were about 50%.
And yes, our statistics over the last ten years show that outdoor wintering has always shown significantly better results than indoor. Personally, I winter all my hives outdoor, even 6 framers, but they are all double. Wintering results are always better than those of my former boss indoor.
Where are you located?
@@ThatBeeMan west central Saskatchewan
Wow that makes me sick to my stomach to hear that. Looking forward to your autopsy findings. Thanks for sharing,
Was thinking that too. It will be interesting to see his follow up.
Quite certainly amitraz resistant mites, lab confirmed.
Wow Brad, after watching you build up your apiary for several years, this was very painful to watch ! We all hope you have the strength and fortitude to rebuild. You can bet that this entire community is rooting for you !!! 🙏🙏
I appreciate that!
Brad you will get it lined out and built back up.
Get you some packages to protect your comb and give you assets to split and requeen.
Another season of rebuilding.
I'm sorry Brad. It pains me to see your situation. I just want to say that you deserve better, and better is coming. The losses don't represent you, it's an anomaly. You can grow bees and make honey! Map your path out of this, you can do it. You have what it takes, you know you do. Commit to the struggle, you will win.
I appreciate that!
Yes, wonderful tractor! Maybe this year, full organic acids and no Apivar-chemicals? Looking forward to your causes follow up sir. Lifting in prayers.
Thanks Mike! Yes, looking forward to learning a lot about mite control.
I understand that your on the whole different side of the continent from me, however I had a good amount of loss this year as well. It was double, almost triple what I normally would have. However, Being mine were not indoor, I know they died between the end of January, Start of February. Being that we had such a warm winter, and mine kept flying, in my case they died off with the lack of feed. Yours being inside, I would assume it would keep them from flying and not needing so much feed. Im sure that you will figure out what killed some of them, and build back better than what you had to start with. Might not be able to get 100+ of them this year out of the 13 left, but it is possible to build them back. Sorry for your losses!
Thanks, Jack. Amitraz resistant mites killed my bees.
Was your amitraz resistance confirmed? Or this is just a gut feeling because the Apivar didn't appear to be working?
It was lab-confirmed.
Oh yikes. Not a lot of great options out there to take its place.
Oh, Brad I am so very sorry for your loss, I hope some way u can figure it all out, and be able to increase your apiary, and produce honey as well. I will be praying for you. and your wife.
Thank you, Frances. I appreciate the prayers. We are surrounded by good and generous people and we have a plan to move forward. It'll be almost a month before the rebuilding will commence. Stay tuned!
Oh crap Brad…my heart hurts for you…no doubt it is devastating news. If you choose to move forward, are you able to get your hands on some packages yet?
I will be moving forward. Exactly how, I have not decided yet.
Tough stuff. May you sense the Father we follow grieving with you in this overwhelming discouraging time.
I appreciate that!
The good news is you got a lot of comb still. If you can find them, packages may be the way to go since they dont have to draw out all that comb.
Yes, it could be!
I think you should buy some packages. Just my opinion. Good luck and stay strong.
I appreciate that!
My condolences are inadequate. Sad to see this happen. Thoughts and prayers for you and your family Brad.
I appreciate that!
😢so sorry for your losses Brad. but the lord will see you thru this. i know you will come back strong. if i can do anything for you, please juat let me know.
I appreciate that!
Your not in this alone, seems there is high loss counts all over. I checked mine last week and lost 38 of my 45 i went into winter with. Its a hard blow but keep faith and yoy will come out in the end.
So sorry to hear that! 38? ouch.
@33MileBees * You beat me I lost 10 of 16... 😊
Sorry to hear that, Mike! That's a hard pill to swallow!
Brad,
This is extremely sad to hear and my heart goes out to you. Keep your head held high and keep moving forward. I appreciate all of your videos as they are very informative. God bless.
I appreciate that!
That’s a tough one. Man I feel for you! You gotta shake it off and rebuild. You’re too good a beekeeper to not come back swinging! I pray you come out of this stronger!
Thanks, Mike! I aint quittin'!
Hurts to hear of the losses, I only know loss so I was happy to have 35 out of 45 come thru this winter.
Nice to hear you did ok. All the best!
Words can not express how badly I feel for you. I can't offer much more, except you are in my thoughts and prayers.
I appreciate that!
Sorry buddy 😢. Knowing you, I know you will come back from this even better!
Thanks, Todd! It'll be an interesting summer for sure.
This was hard to watch. I am sorry Brad. Mabye time to try formic pro? I will keep you in my prayers. If i was closer i would offer my time to help you clean out those boxes.
I appreciate that! Yes, I'll be learning more about Formic soon!
If I had enough bees to make a difference I would send you all I have but I don't have enough to do half
Thanks for the offer, Wade. There's a plan in place. I think I'll be ok. Stay tuned for the adventure.
Brad, sorry to hear the start to your season is not going as planned, I'm sure you will figure this out and make the best of it. Wish I could help you if I could.
Thanks for the offer. We will see what happens this summer.
Reminds me of the time running a construction company, we ran out of money. We decided we had to close the business. As I was leaving our meeting, a check dropped out of the check register for 4k, I had forgot to deposit it! It was just enough to pay the bills. Good luck
Awesome!
I'm truly sorry to hear about the losses. That is incredibly disappointing and disheartening after putting so much effort into their care. Hopefully your problem analysis yields solutions. Are purchasing packages a stop gap option for you?
Thank you. The plan forward is not set up yet. Watch for more videos on this.
Looking forward to watching the rebuild. You got this!
Will do what I can this year. Maybe the barn won't be as full next winter.
Aww,Brad, i feel for you. 3 years ago, i lost 92% , had to take a small loan out to buy replacement nucs. That was one tough season.
Sorry to hear that happened to you!
Sorry to hear Brad, I was hoping it was just the few that you checked earlier in the year. I have had high losses in the past and it's pretty discouraging . This is when MASC Winter Mortality Insurance really pays off, although expensive it has saved my operation a few times. 20 years this year and I'm still scratching my head in the spring as to what killed some of my colonies. Except for the obvious " Starvation" is the only one I'm confident with my post winter assessments.
Yep. No food.. mine?
It might have but, I wasn't insured. It's a total loss.
So sorry Brad. I agree it isn't pesticides. Pesticides are just a easy escape to blame it on.
Agreed! Thanks, Glenn!
So sorry for your loss. I only have 2 hives and never any snow in Western Australia but we are learning to check for varoa mite. Fingers crossed you can rebuild.
I hope varroa won't be too bad for you to adapt to.
I guess wintering indoors you would see bee death. We have done outdoors and we've seen about 95% loss but none died. They all absconded in the fall. About 90-95 colonies down to 3. No signs of dead bees at all. Mite counts were done and there was 0-2 mites per 300 bees so can't blame mites (Still treated in September). We did have extremely thick smoke for about 2 months in the spring from forest fires which lead to swarming all season which we struggled to stop.
Statistically speaking, there is no significant difference between indoor and outdoor winter mortality.
@@ThatBeeMan Sure, but indoors they aren't likely to abscond.
I forgot about the smoke!@❤❤🤔
Brad. I’m sorry about your winter loses.youhave a wonderful attitude and you are doing the best you can.one step at a time. Best wishes.
Thank you, Howard.
Oh Brad..so so sorry! You know we will be praying for you friend!!
I appreciate that!
God has his plans for you heads up . I enjoy all your videos good and bad out comes
I appreciate that!
Maybe start insulating the hives?
Walk me through that idea.
Oh s*** Brad! That breaks my heart to see that! 😢 !
Thanks, Dave. I'll be fine. Another season rebuilding.
One at a time, steady and safe, no reason to make it worse by getting hurt.
You talking to me or yourself? ;-) Thanks, Tom!
🙏🙏🙏💪
Sorry for your lost Brad
Thank you
So sorry for your loss.
I appreciate that!
Hate Hear This Brad
I appreciate that!
Yahoo! Go go go! And the season begins!
Did you even watch the video?
That is disappointing. Tough love?
@@sidelinerbeekeeper yes I did as disappointing as it is it’s a new way to succeed! You can look at it as a failure or you can take it as an opportunity to learn from it and move on! I failed multiple times and never gave up! I will be here to help how ever and where ever I can! That is what friends are for! This can not be changed and now we know what we are up against!
And friends do not let friends fail so like I said I will be here to help!
Go! Team go... exciting to see how the beekeeping community works together. 😊
to second another comment in here- I agree that splitting with brood breaks is, IMO, key to keeping them going. If you cant kill the mites with amitraz- you might have to just stop their ability to reproduce entirely.
I'm in!😊
I don't disagree!