The fact that anyone would make excuses for Bill Wyman, or blame the the actions of a 13yo girl who was pimped out by an abusive mother, because they like some song he played on decades ago is shameful, but not shocking given the state of the world.
@RicksterGbot Did u just like your own comment? That's definitely one way to get validation from yourself. I don't see the point of defending Bill, he didn't do something good. I've seen you reply to others with "Bill is an amazing, iconic bass player therefore he can't do no harm" and I have to tell you that famous people really don't deserve all this energy put onto them, no matter how great they are. Just take in the fact that he did what he did, which wasn't a nice thing.
That's true remember the days at the movies with your new girlfriend trying to get your hands into her pants if you succeeded bragging about it to your mates
It's one thing for a 19 year old guy to have a 17 year old girlfriend...But Bill was 47 and Mandy was 13 when they started having a sexual relationship. That is not okay.
10:55: "By 2005, she had found faith and was assisting abuse victims through the Roman Catholic Church..." A very good place to look for them, and their abusers.
@@WVF112469 If it's low hanging fruit, it's not because of the state of her soul, but the state of the Roman Catholic Church. You seem to have completely missed the target of my criticism.
@@sheilamacdougal4874 categorizing people of faith without knowledge of one's personal reasons for her choice seems as an attempt to interject a misunderstanding of the victims point of view. She's a rape victim and I personally choose not to marginalize her pain caused from a deviant predator starting at 13 years old. Perhaps she was in a quality program or safe place in her community, with family and friends. Not all protestants are closet homosexuals, mafia is not a representation of all Italians, not all Hebrew Rabbi's traffic or sexually abuse children, not all Mormons marry several women at one time, all Germans are not Nazi's, Baptists don't all beat their children, French military had some bad-asses, some English have good teeth, not all Vietnamese eat dogs. Stereo-typical thinking started for reasons in years past but, it doesn't represent an entire race or population unless one has a bigoted viewpoint to the highest faction. The victim is the only point that matters and it doesn't matter how she chose to heal if it helped her soul.
@Wizzz2288 I don't think they did, Bill's son Stephen was seeing Mandys mother, but Bill said to him that he better break off the Relationship or he will take him off his Will.
Bill was on tour with the Stones in 1990 when he had to take time out and fly back to London to visit "a dying relative". The truth is that he flew back to see his beloved Crystal Palace play Manchester United in the FA Cup Final at Wembley. It was then he developed a fear of flying and eventually quit the Stones.
Everyone wouldn't let up on Jerry Lee Lewis, but kept mum about Bill Wyman. Chuck Berry did time for his underage Apache gal. Elvis got off easy on Priscilla,too, even though he married her when she became of age.
Who else would care besides you , odd that you’d mention that . That generic people on internet care what your name is..??Not to be mean but seriously ..
Everyone is free to decide how to judge the behavior described. Or that of the painter Gauguin with his Tahitian "child wife". But the suggestion that William Perks did so much wrong that The Rolling Stones should not have invited him - in the capacity of Bill Wyman - to contribute to their latest album, or that fans of The Stones or The Rhythm Kings have to turn down Bill Wyman's bass when they play a CD of those groups is nonsense in my opinion. Don't blame a child for the wrongdoings of a parent - and each work of art is a "child" of the artist. Like the marvelous paintings by Gauguin of his "wife". Then we can "cancel" the music of Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis. And more. And as for MURDER: the composer Gesualdo, the painter Caravaggio, the photographer Eadweard Muybridge, the sculpture maker Carl Andre, the Dutch poet Achterberg, the music producer Phil Spector, the Blues and Folk singer Lead Belly (Huddy Ledbetter) and many more singers, like Robert Pete Williams - the list is far from complete.
It just prouve that pedophilia is unfortunately a common males crime. Sexual tourism in Bangkok, millionds of sites on internet to date a minor, is that your excuse???
@@Methilde Thank you for your reaction. I do not judge. I am no judge. I just state that no WORK OF ART can be condemned because its CREATOR is a wrongdoer. If you cancel all works of art made by sexists, racists and/or antisemites in western history, there will be not much left to enjoy. Sex tourism in Thailand (or wherever) involving minors has nothing to do with what I maintain. That's a different subject. Surely worth discussing (I hate the phenomnon), but it has no bearing upon what I am arguing here: even when the Devil makes something beautiful: it's beautiful.
How old was Priscilla when she met Elvis? Let's be consistent if we're casting stones!! I agree I think they were both in love and respected each other and looking at the photos she doesn't look traumatized at all, so on the outside it looks ok I guess, but you know, let teenagers be teenagers and grow up in their own natural way which is why older suitors shouldn't view them as potential partners IMO.
Priscilla was 14 and Elvis was 24 when they met. Bill Wyman was 47 and his girlfriend Mandy was 13 when they met. Bill was old enough to have been her grandfather. I guess it's all okay as long as you are rich and famous, right?
Age of consent varies around the World and cultures. Do I agree with it? No! However, marrying at a young age 14, 15, 16 was acceptable behavior at one time, especially in the South Eastern part of America. The age gap wasn't as great though. As far as Elvis is concerned, he was a good old boy and didn't think twice about it.
Get the facts straight.. You make it sound like Bill Wyman has joined the Stones again .. He recorded the Bass on one track separately while in London. There is no re-joining ! He's not touring with them and he's 86 fking years old !! Also yes lets be consistent like someone already said. Elvis was boinking several under age girls and it was swept under the rug! Nothing here that anyone doesn't know about !! Anyone & including rock stars should of been busted while the crap was going on! Not 30 yrs later when they are next to being on a deathbed anyway!
That's old news & they will have to answer for there own sins and it's not up to us to be the judge as we will have to answer for our own sins too! BTW Everyone right or wrong has had some shit happen in life that they and you & I EVERYBODY isn't proud of.@@Methilde
With the little bit of info I have or think I have I would say he was genuinely in love with her, was he wrong to court her or groom her, yes, should he go to jail, probably not, let's focus on the child sex traffickers and the andrenochrome drinkers and torturers and murderers and not worry about a guy that made a mistake.
She told her story in a book. She became ill and had difficulty with men after Bill. If Mandy would look like the eurovisionwinner Sandra Kim when she won as a 14 year old, people would definitely have reacted..
@RicksterGbot Of course he waited😂😂😂. You probably think it quite normal for the 47 year old Bill to groom the 13 year old Mandy. Rickster you should be more choosy with your heroes and while you are at it take down those Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter posters of your bedroom wall.
Sorry, but each case is different… And laws should be changed or overlook There was no violence and in case You should be questioning the mother… But she said yes …. So …. Same an all the laws on drugs Is personal matter….
The fact that anyone would make excuses for Bill Wyman, or blame the the actions of a 13yo girl who was pimped out by an abusive mother, because they like some song he played on decades ago is shameful, but not shocking given the state of the world.
Sad.
@RicksterGbotfym wrong
@RicksterGbot Did u just like your own comment? That's definitely one way to get validation from yourself. I don't see the point of defending Bill, he didn't do something good. I've seen you reply to others with "Bill is an amazing, iconic bass player therefore he can't do no harm" and I have to tell you that famous people really don't deserve all this energy put onto them, no matter how great they are. Just take in the fact that he did what he did, which wasn't a nice thing.
@RicksterGbot Ok, so from what I'm seeing... You're clearly a rage bait troller. It worked a little ig.
@RicksterGbot If this is all you can say to my comment.. 😭🙏
Every guy that I knew in my younger days had at least one underage girlfriend.
That's true remember the days at the movies with your new girlfriend trying to get your hands into her pants if you succeeded bragging about it to your mates
common all around the world in any decade, time or place
It's one thing for a 19 year old guy to have a 17 year old girlfriend...But Bill was 47 and Mandy was 13 when they started having a sexual relationship.
That is not okay.
Pretty disappointed in Bill Wyman, not gonna lie.
@RicksterGbot Ewww
@@KittyGrizGriz So am I, his solo output was shocking “Je suis un rockstar” 😜
@@robsmith8024
🎼 “You’re so lah-di-dah” 😝
I’d never heard this before and it’s totally forgettable! 😂
10:55: "By 2005, she had found faith and was assisting abuse victims through the Roman Catholic Church..."
A very good place to look for them, and their abusers.
Synagogue way better! But the Catholic church doesn't control information media
Finding fault in the woman's faith with criticism of her attempt to heal her soul is like a weak attempt at picking low-hanging fruit.
@@WVF112469 If it's low hanging fruit, it's not because of the state of her soul, but the state of the Roman Catholic Church. You seem to have completely missed the target of my criticism.
@@sheilamacdougal4874 categorizing people of faith without knowledge of one's personal reasons for her choice seems as an attempt to interject a misunderstanding of the victims point of view. She's a rape victim and I personally choose not to marginalize her pain caused from a deviant predator starting at 13 years old. Perhaps she was in a quality program or safe place in her community, with family and friends.
Not all protestants are closet homosexuals, mafia is not a representation of all Italians, not all Hebrew Rabbi's traffic or sexually abuse children, not all Mormons marry several women at one time, all Germans are not Nazi's, Baptists don't all beat their children, French military had some bad-asses, some English have good teeth, not all Vietnamese eat dogs.
Stereo-typical thinking started for reasons in years past but, it doesn't represent an entire race or population unless one has a bigoted viewpoint to the highest faction.
The victim is the only point that matters and it doesn't matter how she chose to heal if it helped her soul.
the biggest pedo ring thru out history plus a whole lot more
What about her mother, she didnt call the cops either.
The Mother Married Bill's Son
@@Wizzz28
No didn't marry her
@@ianharty746 I thought they married in 1993
@Wizzz2288
I don't think they did, Bill's son Stephen was seeing Mandys mother, but Bill said to him that he better break off the Relationship or he will take him off his Will.
@@ianharty746 Yes. That's Correct.
Just Google Patsy Smith & Stephen Wyman. They still got married
Bill was on tour with the Stones in 1990 when he had to take time out and fly back to London to visit "a dying relative". The truth is that he flew back to see his beloved Crystal Palace play Manchester United in the FA Cup Final at Wembley. It was then he developed a fear of flying and eventually quit the Stones.
It was all in the papers at the time Bill & 13 year old Mandy
It was no secret.
@@QuirijnBesse 🎯
@RicksterGbot nobody cared at the time
Everyone wouldn't let up on Jerry Lee Lewis, but kept mum about Bill Wyman. Chuck Berry did time for his underage Apache gal. Elvis got off easy on Priscilla,too, even though he married her when she became of age.
I believe the fact that jerry lee lewis married his 13 yr cousin , didn't sit well with many
lots hypocrites here who say 13 yr old capable if they commit crime but not if secs.
Sounds like it's hitting a little too close to home for your own well-being.
How about the fact that Mandy’s mother was reported to have had a relationship with Bill’s son (who happens to have the same first name as I do)?
Who else would care besides you , odd that you’d mention that . That generic people on internet care what your name is..??Not to be mean but seriously ..
Well he would have turned to be her step grandpa...ffs decadent
@@danielreyes6225 why are you so rude???
Everyone is free to decide how to judge the behavior described. Or that of the painter Gauguin with his Tahitian "child wife".
But the suggestion that William Perks did so much wrong that The Rolling Stones should not have invited him - in the capacity of Bill Wyman - to contribute to their latest album, or that fans of The Stones or The Rhythm Kings have to turn down Bill Wyman's bass when they play a CD of those groups is nonsense in my opinion.
Don't blame a child for the wrongdoings of a parent - and each work of art is a "child" of the artist. Like the marvelous paintings by Gauguin of his "wife".
Then we can "cancel" the music of Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis. And more.
And as for MURDER: the composer Gesualdo, the painter Caravaggio, the photographer Eadweard Muybridge, the sculpture maker Carl Andre, the Dutch poet Achterberg, the music producer Phil Spector, the Blues and Folk singer Lead Belly (Huddy Ledbetter) and many more singers, like Robert Pete Williams - the list is far from complete.
It just prouve that pedophilia is unfortunately a common males crime.
Sexual tourism in Bangkok, millionds of sites on internet to date a minor, is that your excuse???
@@Methilde Thank you for your reaction. I do not judge. I am no judge.
I just state that no WORK OF ART can be condemned because its CREATOR is a wrongdoer.
If you cancel all works of art made by sexists, racists and/or antisemites in western history, there will be not much left to enjoy.
Sex tourism in Thailand (or wherever) involving minors has nothing to do with what I maintain. That's a different subject. Surely worth discussing (I hate the phenomnon), but it has no bearing upon what I am arguing here: even when the Devil makes something beautiful: it's beautiful.
I will never change a line about what have been artistically done, just pointed hypocrisy, times are changing :)
Not need to be out at night to “hide” could have been hidden behind doors. Mother completely cool w it as well . Different times then
Yeah spot on all these bloody holier then thou idiots check your own background
What a drag it is getting old....
@RicksterGbot No they don't.
lmao
😅dirty oldman......he knows how to play the basss😮
I hope you get married soon and live happily ever after!
gros nul ni sale ni vieux.. c, était une rock star , pas un clown 🤡 votre attitude est juste ridicule. 🇲🇨
Unfortunately, mud sticks 👀
How old was Priscilla when she met Elvis? Let's be consistent if we're casting stones!! I agree I think they were both in love and respected each other and looking at the photos she doesn't look traumatized at all, so on the outside it looks ok I guess, but you know, let teenagers be teenagers and grow up in their own natural way which is why older suitors shouldn't view them as potential partners IMO.
Old P ric K s love young baby chicks
Pedophilia
Priscilla was 14 and Elvis was 24 when they met.
Bill Wyman was 47 and his girlfriend Mandy was 13 when they met. Bill was old enough to have been her grandfather.
I guess it's all okay as long as you are rich and famous, right?
You’re dense.
Age of consent varies around the World and cultures. Do I agree with it? No! However, marrying at a young age 14, 15, 16 was acceptable behavior at one time, especially in the South Eastern part of America. The age gap wasn't as great though. As far as Elvis is concerned, he was a good old boy and didn't think twice about it.
Gary glitter ,,but with a bass guitar ,,13 yr old should've been prison
jerry lee lewis married his cousin who was 13,its tradition lol
And what that change for Wyman responsabilities
Get the facts straight.. You make it sound like Bill Wyman has joined the Stones again .. He recorded the Bass on one track separately while in London. There is no re-joining ! He's not touring with them and he's 86 fking years old !! Also yes lets be consistent like someone already said. Elvis was boinking several under age girls and it was swept under the rug! Nothing here that anyone doesn't know about !! Anyone & including rock stars should of been busted while the crap was going on! Not 30 yrs later when they are next to being on a deathbed anyway!
Bill has severals affaires with very young girls too.
The all menbers knew that but attended to Bill and Mandy wedding, include Charlie, oups.
That's old news & they will have to answer for there own sins and it's not up to us to be the judge as we will have to answer for our own sins too! BTW Everyone right or wrong has had some shit happen in life that they and you & I EVERYBODY isn't proud of.@@Methilde
@@billfish7359how is it a sin God made her capable of reproduce
@RicksterGbot You are in for one big shock brother.
Elvis was in his 20s when he dated teenage girls. Bill was almost 50 when he met a13 year old Mandy. Thats a v e r y big difference.
Yeah, I remember that back then...kinda a scandal
With the little bit of info I have or think I have I would say he was genuinely in love with her, was he wrong to court her or groom her, yes, should he go to jail, probably not, let's focus on the child sex traffickers and the andrenochrome drinkers and torturers and murderers and not worry about a guy that made a mistake.
It was far to be Bill first affair with a very young girl.
@Luthermutt_Notwell
Prudish???
What does Mandy have to say about it? Just rumors until proven true.
She told her story in a book. She became ill and had difficulty with men after Bill. If Mandy would look like the eurovisionwinner Sandra Kim when she won as a 14 year old, people would definitely have reacted..
Whats the difference between bill wyman and a greyhound......a greyhound waits for hares to grow
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too late to put him in the clink
Call the police for what ?
For boning a child!
@@robsmith8024 16
@RicksterGbot Of course he waited😂😂😂. You probably think it quite normal for the 47 year old Bill to groom the 13 year old Mandy. Rickster you should be more choosy with your heroes and while you are at it take down those Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter posters of your bedroom wall.
@dindjarin7185 Sorry, can’t find it in me to condone the actions of paedo, maybe that’s your thing. Maybe u and Bill popped from the same pod.
@RicksterGbot Yeah, of course he did………..
Get over it
@@BenjaminBraddock7777
No. 🪳 🎇 💡
Bollocks
Exactement, trop facile d'accuser Bill ......🙄😤🤪
Anyone else think that Bill kinda resembled the actor Christopher Lee?
No , you're the one
Sorry, but each case is different…
And laws should be changed or overlook
There was no violence and in case
You should be questioning the mother…
But she said yes …. So ….
Same an all the laws on drugs
Is personal matter….
Ein hübsches Paar. ❤
Just off !
Je suis Bill Wyman!
OUTSTANDING
so what.......
I don't believe this narrator has or had aything to do with the crap he's spewing. Putrid video full of holier than thou crap!~
It is a computer robot voice.
Go Bill….Phoar !!!!
So what
TRES Cool/Heavy!