Classic British Aircraft - Hawker Siddeley Nimrod

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • Now retired, The Hawker Siddeley Nimrod, whose airframe was based on the groundbreaking Comet airliner, was widely regarded as one of the world's best maritime patrol aircraft. (The series was produced in 2004 and narrated by Harry Enfield, the series features interviews with those who designed and flew and maintained a remarkable collection of aircraft which are often get overlooked but which played a key role in the history of aviation.)

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  • @johnprice6641
    @johnprice6641 Год назад +23

    I was part of the team from BAe salvaging a fuselage from a dispersal pad in Kinloss. The aircraft had been stripped of anything serviceable. It was a 40 year old rot box . It had 3 bird nest's within . You could physically crush intercostal structures with your hands . If they just decided to make a new fuselage to match the new wings , engines, it would still be flying .

    • @mowogfpv7582
      @mowogfpv7582 Год назад

      Or just start with an existing modern airframe in the first place like they did with the comet?
      The MRA4 fiasco is an example of something that happens in all kinds of industries. It's easier to get backing to iterate on your existing platform than start a whole new project because to a non technical customer it intuitively *seems* like less work.
      I doubt it really surprised the engineers to find that the job got bigger once they got into it. But some sales chaps at BAE spun portillo a good story.

  • @BoSs0nE01
    @BoSs0nE01 13 дней назад +2

    This was my favourite plane at the airshows as a kid 😊

  • @brianwillson9567
    @brianwillson9567 Год назад +9

    The nimrod airshow display was always spectacular, almost up to the Vulcan. To see an ‘airliner’ being thrown about the sky like a mustang or spitfire was awesome.

  • @leezinke4351
    @leezinke4351 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a gorgeous plane!

  • @seanjoseph8637
    @seanjoseph8637 Год назад +25

    This didn't age well...I cut some of the 4's up at RAF Abingdon after the project was canceled...very sad.

    • @cdchantler
      @cdchantler Год назад +1

      Raf Abingdon - when did that close ? I live just down the road

  • @gca259
    @gca259 Год назад +11

    BAE Systems won the contract to update the Nimrod fleet based on the cost of carrying out the required work on one example.
    The cost spiralled as it was found they all had different problems. Many parts were originally 'hand-made', meaning no two planes were the same.

  • @diceman199
    @diceman199 Год назад +10

    I got to go on several Tapestry flights, maybe 30 hours flight time. Walking up the middle of the aircraft while they pull one of those 2G manoeuvres is interesting

  • @camoTiara
    @camoTiara Год назад +2

    I used to love NIMROD. When I was a boy. 1970,s and 80's. Then i saw two Harriers blowing an unholy spray at the sea front of Seaburn and Roker. Fabulous.

  • @davidnoseworthy4540
    @davidnoseworthy4540 11 месяцев назад

    This is an excellent series of short stories where the people who have flown, worked on or restored these classic aircraft, share their favorite experiences or the lore that has been passed on for those who are interested. I wish there were more!

  • @shockthejock8505
    @shockthejock8505 Год назад +2

    Started my career at Kinloss and retired at Northwood, always loved the Nimrod and sad to see dumped so quickly.

  • @timhancock6626
    @timhancock6626 Год назад +14

    And then we had nothing for ten years 😕

    • @johngrantham8024
      @johngrantham8024 Год назад +1

      Yes, but it was ok because we crossed our fingers and called 'faynights' to the Russians!

  • @myplane150
    @myplane150 Год назад +26

    To my eyes, this is one of the best looking large aircraft in the world...☺

    • @veganforlife8251
      @veganforlife8251 Год назад +1

      It looks like your mother

    • @camoTiara
      @camoTiara Год назад

      I agree it was like something from a black and white Flash Gordon movie.😊

    • @myplane150
      @myplane150 Год назад +3

      @@veganforlife8251 Great looking, yes. But she's pretty thin. Thanks for the complement though...☺

    • @ianrichards909
      @ianrichards909 Год назад

      So you like your aircraft like you like your women… Fat and Ugly…

    • @VanderlyndenJengold
      @VanderlyndenJengold Год назад +1

      I liked it (the Nimrod, not met your mum) it was quirky and it was British (again, the Nimrod, not met your mum). Such a shame what became of it; it still makes me seethe (Nimord). The UK part owned Airbus - how could the boffins not just put all the tech in an Airbus instead of having to buy a US patrol aircraft? The UK has these good ideas yet screws them up eventually, It's probably down to lack of management and investment.

  • @glennread3305
    @glennread3305 Год назад +1

    I spent 12 enjoyable years on the flight lines both NLS & NLS (N) between 84 - 96

  • @user-ow8tc7jf1h
    @user-ow8tc7jf1h Год назад +1

    Flew in a Comet to Christmas Island in December 1957 as a 19 year old National Service man in the Royal Signals, memories.

  • @paulmorgan6269
    @paulmorgan6269 Месяц назад

    Was at Kinloss with the idea of Mr4. They sent up Trainee people straight
    out of college and as they had no clue what to do just took photographs
    so as they could copy previous builds .when they got home.
    FRA were paying us less than a quick fit Fitter. So our guy's were leaving
    at least one a week. The RAF panicked, and called a meeting so FRA had to
    increase our wages .But not enough. This was the end of the Nimrod at Kinloss.

  • @stevenmccolm1531
    @stevenmccolm1531 Год назад +13

    The MR4.A was cancelled. I got to fly on the MR.2P whilst I was in the Royal Auxiliary Air Force 1986-1997. Should have kept flying until the P8 came into service. New engines and avionics was all that she needed.

    • @johnjephcote7636
      @johnjephcote7636 Год назад +2

      The cancellation of the MRA4 on 19th October 2010 saw all nine aircraft broken up and Kinloss closed. The design was essentially a completey new aircraft. Edward Lucas, energy editor of the 'Economist' described it as 'one of the most extraordinary fiascos in the history of Britain's defence procurement'.

    • @ozzy8286
      @ozzy8286 Год назад

      Not 2MHU by any chance?

    • @stevenmccolm1531
      @stevenmccolm1531 Год назад

      @@ozzy8286 Number 2 MHU Royal Auxiliary Air Force is based in Edinburgh, 1 MHU now 600 Squadron City of London is based at RAF Northolt and 3MHU is in Plymouth. There was a 4MHU in Belfast but it didn't last very long.

    • @ozzy8286
      @ozzy8286 Год назад +1

      @@stevenmccolm1531 Yes, I was in 2 MHU in the early 90s. Absolutely loved it and had the privilige of flying in Nimrods from RAF Kinloss and also an Aurora from the Canadian Air Force.
      The Nimrod was a fantastic aeroplane.

    • @stevenmccolm1531
      @stevenmccolm1531 Год назад

      @@ozzy8286 , I was a member of 1MHU. They were based in Valency House Northwood before moving to RAF Northolt. I miss RAF Turnhouse and Pitreave Castle. I spent May a year in Gibraltar. I flew with the Canadians and USNavy. Good Times.

  • @idubzh243
    @idubzh243 Год назад +5

    What a beautiful design ! I Love this plane.

  • @46shortee
    @46shortee Год назад

    Was privileged enough to be able to do some work experience with 42 Torpedo Bomber Sqn at RAF St Mawgan in the late eighties. Absolutely loved being around these aircraft and working on them. Miss them flying around Cornwall. 😢
    10:31

  • @_Name_
    @_Name_ 11 месяцев назад

    That's simply one of those infamous british avia freaks.

  • @Nick-xe7ek
    @Nick-xe7ek 11 месяцев назад

    Still better than new one, analog plane...👍👍👍👍👍

  • @craigk1328
    @craigk1328 Год назад +1

    I was working on the airfield and got to have a go on the simulator in our lunch break, It was great fun. I crashed into the tower a couple of times lol.

  • @Lillyash12
    @Lillyash12 11 месяцев назад

    Brits knew how to built beautifull aircrafts.

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 Год назад +2

    the internal bomb bay of the Nimrod MR4 multi mission ASW aircraft, built into the under fuselage section of the MR4 could do with some serious ordinance (because that's what it's meant for) . . . for e.g. the AGM-84E Harpoon II semi-active radar homing inertial guided anti-ship missile & Storm Shadow active radar homing GPS guided air-to-surface land attack cruise missiles . . . could carry guided torpedos as well . . .

  • @cdchantler
    @cdchantler Год назад +1

    Great but of early career Harry Enfield narration

  • @robertlowe7186
    @robertlowe7186 11 месяцев назад

    I reckon it's an attractive looking aeroplane ! 💜👍💚
    Don't care what anyone says.☘️

  • @davidsirett5560
    @davidsirett5560 Год назад +1

    it is a shame that at least one could not have been saved in air worthy condition and kept flying for displays.

  • @PhD777
    @PhD777 Год назад +3

    The Victor, Vulcan and Nimrod were some of the most beautiful aircraft ever to fly.

    • @Lillyash12
      @Lillyash12 11 месяцев назад

      I agree. Brits knew how to design beautifull aircrafts.

  • @user-ng2er9rj4h
    @user-ng2er9rj4h 11 месяцев назад

    Когда-то Великобритания была великой авиационной державой, виктор, комета, вулкан, маскито, метеор, а сейчас? 😪

  • @thelastdruidofscotland
    @thelastdruidofscotland Год назад +1

    For 40 years the Nimrod served the UK very well, but each airframe, after decades of use, had many different problems, BAE systems tried, but there was no way to recondition each aircraft without extensive work, meaning each aircraft would have had to have been rebuilt from the ground up, the right decision was made to rely on NATO to deal with a reduced soviet threat scenario until the P8 arrived, which are cloud enabled and very much fully modern, however, the NIMROD leaves a very high bar to reach, the russians HATED the NIMROD with a vengence, as it was fully capable of sonar bombing russian subs without being detected, and it did so for decades without the russians having any answer to it, there was simply no way to escape a NIMROD with a belly full of sonar buoy's, they flew low, fast, and quiet, and if I was a Russian submariner during the Cold War, it would have been the NIMROD giving me nightmares.

  • @idubzh243
    @idubzh243 Год назад +6

    For those who ask, it's the military version of the first jet airliner, the Comet.

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun Год назад +4

      The Comet was an airliner, not a business jet.

    • @idubzh243
      @idubzh243 Год назад +4

      Thanks to correct me, I'm not english and I misspoke @@cjmillsnun

  • @rickprobst7555
    @rickprobst7555 Год назад +4

    so This is what I look like, bc my Mom always called me a Nimrod

  • @43sq
    @43sq Год назад

    One of the aircraft I wish to fly

  • @timw6928
    @timw6928 Год назад

    British genius yet again

  • @TheHandThatBites
    @TheHandThatBites Год назад

    Enjoyed warching them at Rosneiger

  • @derf9465
    @derf9465 Год назад +3

    Back when we had an RAF now we have nothing. A flying club with very much reduced flying , high leaving rate, huge skill fade.

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 Год назад

    Awesome 👍✈️

  • @Dandalore
    @Dandalore Год назад +2

    Fortunately, we finally have the P8 to replace our Martime Patrol and Reconnaissance capability. It's a very capable airframe, crewed by some people who were on Nimrods previously and have decades of experience. Despite the Government screwing up and leaving us exposed to naughty submarines for 10 years, we're finally in safe hands once again. I think P8 will be a worthy successor to the mighty hunter that was the Nimrod.

    • @PiersLawsonBrown1972
      @PiersLawsonBrown1972 Год назад +2

      It is a shame that we went from a large capability fleet starting with 49 airframes to what we have now of 9 P8's. Certainly the ability of the P8 is not in question, but as with all the down sizing that the RAF and other services have gone through, as a Country, we are a shadow of our former selves.

    • @bobthebomb1596
      @bobthebomb1596 Год назад +1

      Too few and cannot operate at low level like the Nimrod.

    • @Dandalore
      @Dandalore Год назад

      @bobthebomb1596 They do, in fact, operate at low level. So much so that they're regularly washed to prevent salt corrosion.

    • @bobthebomb1596
      @bobthebomb1596 Год назад

      @@Dandalore Not to the extent that the Nimrod did, we should have bought Japanese and at least three times the number.

    • @Sterlingjob
      @Sterlingjob Год назад

      Nimrod has 3 x range of p8

  • @factfilenews
    @factfilenews Год назад

    It's wing doesn't flex like that of Modern Boeing airliners..
    amazing. 😮

  • @carmadme
    @carmadme Год назад

    There's one you can go inside at Norwich air museum

  • @380Scania
    @380Scania 11 месяцев назад

    You know you were on the Nimrod pulling a 2G turn holding onto one of the life rafts and standing on the stbd life raft looking at the sea between you feet through the window

  • @Div3r
    @Div3r Год назад +4

    Sadly it didn't survive the short-sighted politicians. 🤬 I often wonder when Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 comes back into the news if the wreckage would have been found if the Nimrod had still been in service and had been tasked.

    • @zenzen9131
      @zenzen9131 Год назад

      I thought the exact same thing

  • @simonlunt353
    @simonlunt353 Год назад

    I remember seeing these lovely aircraft at RAF waddington which they put some new wings on the aircraft and gest what the new wings didn’t fit l was told that the new wings were all made up with a computer but you have to remember this aircraft was designed on a drawing board they had to have the plates remade and after all that it was scrapped 😢what a shame great aircraft

  • @L_U-K_E
    @L_U-K_E Год назад +1

    RIP nimrod

  • @mattbaur9784
    @mattbaur9784 Год назад

    when I first saw this plane in Qatar in 2004 and was like what the hell is that. I knew it was likely old based on the engine placement. I did wonder if it was related to the Comet, but I didn't think that was possible. Though I don't know why I was skeptical given I worked on ancient KC-135's lol. but I was still in awe, I think the plane is beautiful in an odd way. Not the one with the big nose though.

  • @skydive1424
    @skydive1424 Год назад

    Read the Haddon-Cave report...

  • @alanhutchins5916
    @alanhutchins5916 Год назад +1

    MOD incompetence is the aircraft in front of you.

  • @anels9
    @anels9 Год назад +1

    What series is this from? :)

  • @stevenr2463
    @stevenr2463 Год назад +1

    My father was in the drawing office of De Havilland from the war (second ww) till 1957 (with a break 52-54) and worked on the Comet. Then moved to Guernsey, where I was born. I believe Guernsey had a squadron of Nimrods. Cant remember the name (202?).

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 Год назад

      My Uncle worked there in Hatfield too, then got transferred to Hurn near Bournemouth.

    • @stevenmccolm1531
      @stevenmccolm1531 Год назад

      The Nimrod only operated out of two airbases in the UK, RAF Kinloss and RAF St.Mawgan. The runway at Guernsey is too short for the Nimrod to land let alone take off from.

  • @SpeedFireARL
    @SpeedFireARL 11 месяцев назад

    мда. старые английские самолеты выглядят очень необычно

  • @ALAMGIRHOSSAIN-wj4oy
    @ALAMGIRHOSSAIN-wj4oy 11 месяцев назад

    🌹

  • @archawasoontornsima8465
    @archawasoontornsima8465 Год назад

  • @robertcornelius8056
    @robertcornelius8056 Год назад

    Looks like the comet

  • @phillippe.cai.
    @phillippe.cai. Год назад

    Гениальная тактика делать самолёты, которые в случае неудачной бомбардировки, смогут до смерти насмешить врага внешним видом самолёта 🤣

  • @camoTiara
    @camoTiara Год назад

    Upgrade it and send it out again.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 Год назад

      They tried that with the Nimrod MRA4. It wasn’t successful

  • @notrut
    @notrut Год назад +1

    Classic indeed ...
    So why did Dr Liam Fox MP wave £4,000,000,000 worth of them DESTROYED?

  • @paulnutter1713
    @paulnutter1713 Год назад +1

    Nobody wastes money like the British government when it comes to aircraft. If Britain ever sent a man to Mars they'd spend trillions on the programme and then cancel it an hour before lift off

  • @donaldduck9727
    @donaldduck9727 Год назад +9

    I’m surprised this channel has decided to include this video considering it was made in 2004, two years before a Nimrod caught fire, exploded, and killed all 14 on board in Afghanistan. Some of the ‘safety’ claims made in this video have turned out to be either ignorant or disingenuous. The coroner’s statement regarding the safety of the Nimrod: “…never been airworthy from the first time it was released to the service nearly 40 years ago". Nimrod was an accident waiting to happen by bodging together military systems onto the first ever jet airliner design, and as was later discovered in the MRA4 fiasco, in a completely unique and non-standard way for each airframe. Nimrod’s greatest legacy is the complete overhaul of the UK military aviation system and establishment of the MAA to ensure this type of hubris can never occur again.

    • @brianwillson9567
      @brianwillson9567 Год назад

      A military aircraft with a vital mission. Success in the mission comes well before elf n safety. Nimrod attrition was by no means bad. Think Luftwaffe F104.

    • @WellBoared
      @WellBoared 3 месяца назад

      Your response shows your ignorance, the reports are like comparing modern house builds to victorian houses, should we tear them all down? no because they are actually better built without the modern reg's.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Год назад +2

    A very biased and one sided story, that doesn’t mention the safety issues Nimrod had. MRA4 was that bad nobody was prepared to take the risk of signing it into service.

  • @simba7107
    @simba7107 Год назад

    TU 95 the best .

  • @NBBNewsUpdates
    @NBBNewsUpdates Год назад +1

    Can you donate this plane for sri Lanka asian country.

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 Год назад

      What have you got against Sri Lanka ? No one deserved this leaky, flaky, pile of airframe shite.

  • @jessegarman7899
    @jessegarman7899 Год назад +2

    Forgive me, but I think that the British made some of the ugliest, weirdest looking aircraft of the cold war era.

  • @HerbertDuckshort
    @HerbertDuckshort Год назад

    The old “Vomit Comet”. Repaired one or two back in the day. Great old bus.

  • @markdawson7090
    @markdawson7090 Год назад

    Sadly it was a death trap killed 14 crew members in Afghanistan after that it was scrapped

    • @WellBoared
      @WellBoared 3 месяца назад

      Only it wasn't, one incident in how many years and hours of operations?

  • @user-et7ul7wg4p
    @user-et7ul7wg4p Год назад +3

    Why britain never build its own Aircraft instead of buying from the US?

    • @mikehotwheelz
      @mikehotwheelz Год назад +1

      Why can’t you understand the simplest thing?

    • @iamtehmunkie
      @iamtehmunkie Год назад +1

      The UK is skint, we haven't designed a new combat aircraft in the UK since the Hawk and that was in the 70's on slide and rule. Armoured vehicle production is very much going the same way. The UK joins international programmes making some components and sub assemblies for the finished article.

    • @stscc01
      @stscc01 Год назад

      because the UK can't afford it anymore. The development costs are too high for the UK, the RAF has never had less aircraft than today. And the UK's aerospace industry consequently has seem better times. But that is true for most smaller countries, the French and the Swedes notwithstanding.

    • @keithammleter3824
      @keithammleter3824 Год назад +1

      Britain is a small country, about 68 million people. GDP about $3 trillion. The USA has 330 million people, and GDP is about $27 trillion. These basic statistics indicate that Britain's productivity per person is half the USA's. Britain is way too small to develop its own aircraft. The USA is big enough.

  • @allancopland1768
    @allancopland1768 11 месяцев назад

    Never happened.

  • @Szarko32c
    @Szarko32c Год назад

    THey cancelled it and replaced with Boeing 737.

    • @Dandalore
      @Dandalore Год назад +1

      Only the prototypes were 737s, 1 or maybe 2 of them. The rest are purpose-built P8s from the ground up, and are very capable.
      Source: trust me bro.

    • @jhorrorfan2116
      @jhorrorfan2116 Год назад

      ​@@Dandalorethey are capable, but we by far don't have enough. I said that the government should've worked on the MRA.4, it was fixable and wasn't as bad as it was made out to be, and fly the MRA4 alongside the P8's. Possibly the strongest maritime patrol capabilities in the world

  • @vivasangabriele1608
    @vivasangabriele1608 Год назад +2

    An aircraft engineered and built to serve Britain and not just to please NATO.
    🫡🇬🇧

  • @ianrichards909
    @ianrichards909 Год назад +2

    That’s got to be the ugliest looking aircraft in the world…

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Год назад +1

      Built for a purpose mate, and it did it bloody well for more than 30 years

    • @ianrichards909
      @ianrichards909 Год назад

      @@samrodian919- Nah, not really… it failed miserably at that as well… fell out of the sky like flying rocks, that’s why they cancelled it…

    • @viking1236
      @viking1236 Год назад

      Look at a Gannet if you want ugly

    • @BadRavenFPV
      @BadRavenFPV Год назад

      Most maritime aircraft were pretty ugly in a good way, they were built for a task that was considerably away from the norm, one that prettier machines struggled to come close to or could not match (Cough, Seafire). Specifically look at all the Nimrods "competition", and then tell me it was uglier than them.

    • @bobthebomb1596
      @bobthebomb1596 Год назад +2

      @@ianrichards909 Four crashes in over forty years of operation.
      1980 Engine failure following multiple bird strike
      1995 Ditch due to engine fire on post-service test flight
      1995 Crashed following a stall during an air display
      2006 Inflight fire and explosion related to refuelling probe.
      Pretty good record for an aircraft that spent much of its time at low level.
      It was also widely regarded as one of, if not the, best maritime patrol aircraft of the cold war.