The BEST Personal Skills for MADDENING | Fire Emblem Engage
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- Disclaimer Everything in this video is based off MY personal experience on beating Fire Emblem Engage. All players are subject to have different experiences with skills depending a variety of factors in their game.
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Jean's skill actually doubles his class growths, which makes him a very versatile unit. Class growths are more important than personal growths in this game so it makes sense.
why? I mean, I'd rather it double personal growth, because that's a substantial gain to every stat. He already has like 25-35 in most stat gains, so doubling that would be awesome plus class growths. But I get your point of versatility. He's basically good at what you want him to be good at.
@@buddylord3276 I think doubling personal growths would be too broken lol. Doubling class growths is still really good. Reclassing Jean as an Axe Fighter gives him 60% speed growth and 80% str growth as a Berserker or 70% speed growth and 60% str growth as a Warrior which has a skill that gives +50% damage when attacking broken enemies and access to bows.
My understanding is that it doesn't technically Double growths. It actually rolls for that stat growth 2x. And if Jean gets his growth in a stat the first time, it doesn't roll the 2nd time.
What this mean is that if Jean gets Tikis Growth skill, instead of gaining a 50% additional Growth to his stats. His base Growth is Doubled by Tiki skill, then rolled 2x. So this is effectively a 4x growth.
He's not only versatile, he basically get to compete for the best growths in the game for whatever advanced class he feels like, letting you double up on, or avoid certain units entirely.
Louis’s personal skill doesn’t boost defense. It reduces damage by 2. Combined with Great Knight’s class skill and Alear’s personal skill, if you’re standing between an attacking foe and female Alear while there’s another female next to her (which is very likely again due to Alear’s skill, hell if you put Chloe she can activate her personal skill at the same time), you get -6 total damage per attack, regardless of physical or magic. If you equip Eirika’s gentility+, this becomes -11 damage per attack. Easy S tier ability for me. This combined with Chole’s personal skill is why I also think female Alear is way better than male.
That's good information to know, thank you! I'll have to be careful for that next time. This does require a bit of prep, but doesn't seem difficult or out of reach in the slightest.
Exactly alot of ppl don't realize that it says damage and when they look at Louis they think "oh Armor Knight must be defense" he is soo much better than Jade because it reduces damage and Louis will most likely be closer to females as most of the best units in the game are female.
This: it's a super good ability. Flat damage reduction is really nice. I did try and check, but sadly I don't think it works on chain attacks, so Pair Up may be worth getting alongside Gentility.
@@majnuker Chain attacks can only be negated by pair up sadly.
Sure but at the same time it limits movement
Jean’s skill is fantastic as it doubles class growth. On promote into a high priest, his magic and Res growth will be 80%, and 95% with stratosphere, meaning that he becomes an unbelievable magic attacker and Res tank. On chapter 26 hard, magic units were doing 3 damage to him max.
The thing with Lindon is he can be a very effective mob clearer because of his skill. Olwen grants a skill that lets every Thunder tome have the brave effect and if you crit stack with lindon he can guarantee a kill from 3 spaces away more often than not.
Maddening has a lot of high defense enemies with low res and Lindon is an amazing unit to clear all these enemies and made better when danced. Usually he'll have 40% chance to Crit and was instrument in beating chapter 21 for me.
I believe Jean’s doubled class growths also apply to build so if you make him a Berserker or a General for a bit you can get a couple levels with a 25% build growth compared to Alear’s 10% as a Divine Dragon or Jean’s 5% as a Martial Master.
I agree with Party Animal in A, it also boosts staff hit rate so you can help out some insane setups with Micaiah engage like Entrapping or Freezing entire groups of enemies with the extra hit
Jean is a monster unit and scales extremely well into the late game with any class
I imagine he has pretty good options later
With Meditation it depends does it work with great aether(since great aether is an aoe that that attacks after the turn it was used meaning you wouldn't be attack the turn you activate it) because if so then this is great
Anna‘s personal skill is interesting in that it is much more useful on hard then maddening because the lack of random spun enemies in maddening runs. In hard mode, were you may be doing multiple battles between story missions, you’re much more likely to be burning through resources, hence the value of her ability. Otherwise I agree with you.
Jean's expertise is a bit different. It doubles the growths provided by his class instead of a flat 20% to all growths so only really great on a promoted class or Thief if you want early value. Considering the two promoted classes he has access to it's a bit niche.
Funnily enough, Martial Monk has better growths than either of its promotions. Martial Master loses 5% growth on magic, and High Priest loses all of its Str growths(although it does give bonus Speed growths). This means Jean is losing out on a lot of growth in Maddening after he promotes, so he actually wants to stay as Martial Monk until he hits level cap(or level 19)
Single Minded will trigger off of Ivy using Echo with Celica. Add in Draconic Hex and you can also get a debuff for some extra damage on your 2nd hit.
You can build a tank Ivy with Hold Out and Micaiah Emblem using Nosferatu to heal on the counterattacks for 4 Turns as long as you avoid anyone that can outrange her. Throw in Favorite Food and toss a Meal on her for a quick Engage recharge and defend her with Chain Guard/Bonded Shield/etc on the recharge turn and she can go at it for a while.
I honestly think that Merrin's skill is better than Clanne and Framme's. It might just be because I had a lot of female units deployed but this skill was almost always active for her and it buffs the allies as well so its nice to have these boosts to hit and avoid. The allies also don't have to be adjacent like with Louis' skill so it's easy to have as a nice passive bonus.
Great video and editing. But if I may make a request, if you could put the ability in text as you talk about it.
Good morning! The text on the bottom of the video is the name of the skills. It should be there along with every unit the skill is on, along with an image of what the skill looks like.
Confused, so Alcrysts get behind me procs on enemy phase, and lasts through to the next player phase for a sum of 1 turn? Or does it end when enemy phase ends and its a new turn?
I thought it ended when enemy phase ended, so if it lasts to player phase, I serously missunderstood.
Judging by what you thought Jeans skill is vs what it actually is, I feel this is a common issue with a lot of skills, where the description of the skill is vague and doesnt precisly describe what it does, hahaha.
Also, doesn't the game check for crits AFTER hitrate, not before? I don't think crits effect hit rate at all.
I'm not sure which one it checks first, but I'm sure someone out there knows. Regardless, critical hits are 100% guaranteed to hit. So they essentially ignore hit rate.
@@ConstantEntity The crital is only check if the attack hit in the first place.
Protips-
on Ivy: Single Minded triggers from Celica's Echo. Give her Draconic Hex and she'll obliterate anything with the follow up attack. That interaction alone is A tier to me.
on Saphire: Will to win combined with Resolve and other 'low hp' skills makes her harder and harder to kill. I'd honestly suggest speccing her into a General so her survivability is insane.
on Hortensia: While her skill is indeed good if you go more healer, she's a very powerful offensive stave user and she's very mobile. I'd argue she gets less utility from this skill than you think.
on Lindon: His skill is completely broken. You can easily get 100% crit, and the interaction with the thunder bond ring is insane. Only reason I would put it A tier instead of S is because the bond ring requires some manipulation/grinding to get.
on Bunet: This skill is actually pretty freaking good. You can turn a 50 gold food item into other healing items, making you money. The only stickler is that he has to use it and you have to do inventory management after each fight/cook the right stuff to get leftovers often. Combine it with the skill Favorite Food! People talk about Anna farming but Bunet is just as good, so if you bring them both you can be making some cash.
Isn't Ivy really good if you use her in combo with Lucina on another flier since she is fast and doesn't get double she can tank with Lucinas defensive skill and retaliate next round if she doesn't kill.
Nice list, enjoyed it. Can you make one with all weapons in the game, seems many dont want to crunch the numbers and give a subjective list over all what edges out what brave weapons, killer weapons, silvers + whatever etc etc and the legendaries of couse
In my experience, aside from the heroes weapons which are busted and free. steel weapons are best. Upgrade them a couple times and they already do as much damage as silver and are lighter. And theyre not too expensive to upgrade. Brave weapons are garbage and killer is ok but more expensive, less dmg and more weight than steel
@@alosha4321 Appreciate the feedback but I would however like to see all the weapons or at least the top tier ones upgraded to cap compared to their equivalent double strikers and critblades. Ill do it myself over time of course but yeah, its ok.
Sounds like a good idea! I received my Elgato today, so I'll be stepping away from Tier Lists to give both me and my editor a break for a few days, but I'll definitely have this uploaded in about a week.
@@alosha4321 Brave weapons deal the most damage though. And a silver greataxe with the enhancement for hit rate is monstrous. I had Jade solo carry several late chapters as a General with the silver greataxe.
@@ConstantEntity Awesome Ill be watching, thanks for the feedback kind of you.
Boucheron's skill is much better than Etie's and Alfred's. Once you get the Lucina emblem he basically has +2 strength for the entire rest of the game since that unit will almost always follow-up once its bond level is high enough. Etie's and Alfreds skills only work on the enemy phase, and are both counterintuitive to their unit types, Alfred wants to maximize his movement to pick off far away enemies, and he obviously can't benefit from his skill and attack, and Etie has terrible defences so getting a strength boost for the enemy phase on a player phase focussed unit (and having to burn a consumeable) is super niche.
Amber's skill is also quite good. Having +20 hit with less accurate but powerful weapons is a nice boon, and it works on enemy phase unlike Diamant's.
Yunakas Skill boosts crit? In my German Copy it says "Trf" which is Hit and not "crt" for crit. Maybe translation mistake.
Seems to happen from time to time in the german FE games
Yep, I can say confidently that the correct version should be critical and not anything else.
If you pump Anna's luck stat and stick her with the wind axe she hits like a truck and makes you some nice extra cash
I agree, I initially had her somewhere around A tier. But some of the FE veterans disagreed, as the skill is practically useless since it offers no battle utility and the game already gives you more than enough money to beat the game.
Instead of playing the "wind axe". Just make her a mage. So she can use tomes and take profit from her absurd Mag stat growth
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Also High Priest has a 30% Lck growth, which further supports Anna’s quest for stonks.
@@samleuba112 actually the best option is to make her a griffin knight and use levin sword
Griffin knights in this game are the very definition of a broken class.
All mage classes are crap compared to Griffin knights because of low cap on speed which means your griffin knight will double physical classes with levin sword and magical classes with killing edge
How about plus 5 killer edge?
Doesn't Get Behind Me buff the unit who got attacked, not Alcryst himself?
I know its already been said, but Jean can get absolutely insane in the right class on maddening. Since he gets double growths from his personal skill, and he starts as a non combat healer, he doesnt steal exp from better early game units.
I let him heal to 11 ish, where he gets some pretty good stats, then reclass into whatever I need. The reclass always puts him into a good stat line so long as the class stats are good, and he fills out whatever is lacking in my current party.
The double growths just steam roll from there. His growths ultimately outclass a lot of B and A tier units. He even makes a pretty sweet advanced fisty healer, maybe the only character that can do it and have good stats.
Obviously i ment double class growths derp hahahaha
Seconds? Sounds like it was meant to combo with Celica's one passive that fills your gauge after eating a packed lunch.
Im going to have to try this now
@@nathannehs3826 I think that passive is inheritable but can't confirm since I haven't gotten her back yet
This could definitely be paired with Celica's passive Favorite Food. Could be a niche little strat used in the endgame, but that's only after you get Celica back and you're using Bunet.
@@ConstantEntity I figured it'd make for an interesting idea after seeing it. May try it out sometime myself to sate my curiosity about it.
@@ConstantEntity Yea it was basically built for Favorite Food. I also mention in a comment above that the skill is a good money generator as well since it gives you items and leftovers are only worth 50 gold.
I dont agree with citrine at A. Any time it couldve saved me a rewind, she was at full hp and couldnt use a healing item. And in the early game, if i got 4 guys bleeding, Id rather pop Great sacrifice for the exp. Im replaying tho so maybe Ill find a point where it comes in handy.
Id put Lapis' in B. Not hard to trigger, gives hit and avoid on both phases which makes it about on par with Ivys retainers skills. It makes her more accurate with axes which really patches up her strength deficiencies. Not as good as Diamante but I dont think that takes away from hers being useful.
I’m pretty sure ivys skill works with dance right?
And Echo as well. It's actually fantastic.
Actually due to Clanne's Dex/Str/Spd growths he makes a great Axe user as a Warrior! Because of the nature of axe's accuracy I think Verdant Faith is pretty alright (albeit not amazing)
Clanne just has a weird "starting in wrong class" syndrome.
Big Personality should be S Tier. Throw a Canter on Hortensia and it allows you to heal sooooo easily without ever putting yourself at risk. It makes her by far the best Staff User in the game.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, because I personally believe Big Personality is good BECAUSE we don't have to put Canter on her. Any other healer will be in harms way and thus will need Canter to not be hit next turn and also get out of the way of friendly units.
But Hortensia being naturally further away, we can slap a more useful skill on her, despite Canter being a strong skill as it already is.
@@ConstantEntity In Maddening Hortensia isn't very strong other than a staff bot with Fixed Growths. Her Magic is so low she cant solo anything. I mostly only used her with a thunder to pick off something, and having canter on her helped a lot to position her in a safe space. If you use the 2 movement from Canter to move back after healing a target with a 2 range heal, your heals basically become 4 range instead of 2.
Lapis doesn't normally build for Swordmaster, but Hero. Sometimes Warrior.
Lol I do not always disagree with tierlists which is normal ofc. But this one is truly all over the place for me. Avoid is isnane to abuse on maddening with good positioning and avoid investment in alear frannes skill as highpriest of martialmonk as backup (out of reach) is great def better than her brothers atleast lol. then expertise in c burned my eyes. expertise rolls stats twice and uses the best combo of both rolls for stat growth, pair this with tikis stat growth skill and xp% gain and a reclass on jean and he will excell at anything on maddening. Lapis her skill idem to frannes, more avoid abuse, you make an argument that diamants would be better thus you imidiately derank it from an A to a C skipping your entire B tier, why even? also for anna, which is a great mage lategame at maddening, her skill makes it possible for me to use(abuse) all expensive staffs lategame, while still being able to donate to gain as much forge mats as possible for upgrades (which also cost alot if you do many on maddening), combine her with tiki as mage and breath atack can kill up to 4 units per breath racking up money quick... also very strong with dancer backup. also you make arguments on how late a skill is gained and judge it on that yet you dont praise early gained skills? also, talking about avoid abuse on maddening, you rank the best avoid abuser with corrin at A and initially lower, and call it niche while she can be in cover 100% of the time? easy S in my eyes tbh. could go on but ill stop ranting
If we have a personal class promotion with its own skill can we say those are unlockable personal skills
No, because it may be the case that the unit may not actually want that class for other reasons.
This tier list seems incredibly whimsical with where some skills are placed. Lapis and Zelkov are a few of my examples for mis-tiered skills that should be placed at least a tier higher, due to how good avoid is. Veyle especially bothers me, since she has one the best skills in the game, but is placed in C-tier only due to her joining time?
Etie has, by far, one of the worst skills in the game. You need a dancer to even use it properly, unless you want to reclass her to a class that can enemy phase or give her Leif (which isn't a terrible idea). Citrinne is also incredibly overrated, as you need to be able to heal to use it and you don't want a frail mage walking around injured on maddening. Additionally, almost every wait skill is overrated with how player-phase focused engage is. I could go on, but I doubt people would read more than this.
I actually agree with placing late-joiner skills lower. Fact is, you've either completed your run by then or are struggling. You've already invested in other characters. It just has such a low impact at such a late time. I think this goes for most characters after Solm.
Oh and I agree on Citrenne's skill being useless (she's a hyper mage, why are you healing at all), and the wait skills are all around bad because enemy phasing is punished hard in Engage. Alfred does okay though thanks to Golden Lotus on Avenir class, which can halve incoming damage.
The issue I have with placing skills lower because of join time is because I expect the skills to be rated mostly objectively. Obviously how much they help out the unit they're on should matter too, but when you join shouldn't affect personal skills to the point where an obviously S-tier skill gets C-tier. (Which is my problem with Veyle's tiering)
Late to seeing this, but to confirm your confusion, I did 100% place skills depending on when you get them in the game. As this list is specifically tailored to being the best personal skills to beat maddening on. I initially had Veyle's skill in A/S tier, but due to her late join time, renders it much weaker. I'm surprised to see this, considering I mentioned context and viability during the intro of the video. I'll try to make it clear for my next videos!
If I'm going to be one of those people that talks about maximizing every possible damage output - Etie can easily double with her +2 damage on top of a +3 damage from Alear giving a bonus of +5 x 2. Anyone who played maddening knows that most endgame bosses need a bit of cheese to hit them hard. Because if you don't kill them in 1-2 turns, you're most likely using a unit. Unless you freeze cheese, which I had to do for some chapters. Regardless, Etie with Lyn doubles, next to lyn, able to move twice with two dances from Seadall and Byleth, should be able to just absolutely destroy a boss health bar or two. Especially if you put a ton of investment into her, like I did. So the argument that you need a dancer to use it properly it moot, since when is a dancer dancing to give another unit an extra turn to increase overall value a bad thing?
I don't know this, but does Canter activate if using a vulnerary/elixir? If it does, it's not an issue to use Citrinne's ability to it's full potential at that point. However, you do have a point that she really shouldn't be taking damage in the first place. But.. what if you were to throw Micaiah on her and combo her skill with Great Sacrifice? Now, you have your entire army healed, amidst battle, she's at 1hp in the backline, runs up to a front liner, pops elixir, then backs away with Canter. Maddening is also about using what you have. So I'm curious if you or anyone else knows if Canter pops with an elixir.
I forgot to note in my last reply - I love discussing Fire Emblem, so don't ever feel like you have to be limited to write less just because you think people wouldn't read it. At the very least, I'll read it and provoke a discussion, which will ultimately get more people interested in hearing what you have to say.
How does Share Spoils conflict with the Swordmaster route on Lapis?
Swordmasters don't get a crit boost like in most past games. They just kind of... suck.
Even though Swordsmasters don't get crit rate, you're most likely going to want to put a Killing Edge +5 on them. It feels odd to take a unit that is a sword user like Lapis or Kagetsu and steer them off the Swordsman path, even though it's probably for the best.
swordmasters dont' suck
Swordmasters together with griffin knights have the highest cap speed in the game and a bunch of characters can reach it easily maddening or not.
@@eternalchamp3882 You don't need to cap speed. Anything beyond 5 faster than the opponent is just +2 avoid.
@@plentyofpaper yeh good luck with that approach when you start running into griffins with 49 speed kek
@@eternalchamp3882 All right. Lets go with 49 speed griffin. They double anything with 44 speed or less if they take no weapon weight penalty.
Not sure how much of those you need to deal with. I'm in chapter 17 Maddening now, highest speed I've seen is 28. Most stuff is more like 15. But yeah, lets say you've got something 9 chapters later with 49 speed. They're going to double anything with speed 44 or less, which is above the cap for most units.
Your 49 speed swordmaster will hit the griffen knight once. That 49 speed is for defensive purposes only.
Griffen Knights cap strength at 40. Great Knights cap defense at 51. Single digit damage double strikes.
A Radiant Bow +4 will have 69 Mt against fliers. Fogado is the natural user.
The swordmaster is not the best answer to the Griffen Knight. He does all right, but there are better counters.
Great video. But misses the advance skills from the lords
Racket of Solm is my favourite and it’s not even close. The mental image of Timera singing so badly that it throws enemies off their game is so funny to me
I will disagree on lapis because as a hero who can dodge using Micaiah engrave is very strong
Bro, Money Killing is SSS.
As someone who only ran female characters, Merrin’s skill was very nice, but I can see it being not good if you’re actually using the guys.
You rated ivy’s skill too low. Her skill makes her so good at solo killing bosses with a dancer and byleth’s engage skill, since a lot of bosses have high defense and they stand on a tile improving dodge rate.
But even then it's pretty niche and I'm sure there are better ways to kill bosses than that
@@noriantiri9310 just pannete witch brave axe
@@usuratonkaichii Panette is good but in an awful class for Maddening. Switch her from Berserker to Warrior or Hero she would be so much better
She also has a respectable res stat, and her personal class’s passive scales off the enemy’s Mag. She seems to be designed to kill mages, which seems to track considering Thoron and Mae’s bond ring can help Ivy overcome the high res of most magic users.