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There is a third witness that doesn't generate much discussion. The harrier pilot.
Two Harriers, two pilots.
@@misdangered4326 twice as easy to find.
Has a wee chuckle at the manicured path that cuts through Struan point. I sent the guy all my Calvine photos & Videos ages ago... Great analysis Simon 👍
I filmed with James Fox recently for his upcoming documentary and this sighting will feature in it.
Looking forward to it mate.👍
James fox released a clip of a Scottish bloke describing a ufo...surely this must the guy that took the Calvin photo or the guy that was with him. Can you elaborate?
@@davidgalea6113 I haven't seen the clip but it may have been the guy that worked in the government that took the photo home with him when he resigned his position. (edit) Or retired.
@@davidgalea6113that is Craig Lindsey. The RAF press officer at the time of the sighting. Craig had the fortitude to hang onto one of the pictures. Kept hidden in his garage until David Clarke tracked him down
Gary- it was mentioned this year that a production company is going to make a movie about your experience. Is this still the case? I'm sure all of us would love to see Simon interview you on his channel
I've seen a UFO/UAP it was insane! Broad daylight solid metal with circular lights.
I wish I'd taken a photo but I was in awe 😮😅
You guys really do got too a lot of trouble. The RAF aircraft is a BAe Harrier GR.3. They're relatively short ranged with no air to air refuelling. Most of the around 300 built were based in Europe. There were only a small number based in UK.
This aircraft is flying an intocept mission. A Harrier is not an intoceptor, it's not really armed for these missions.
This aircraft would have come from a RAF field within 30mins flight time.
Find the base, find the aircraft, FIND THE PILOT.
There literally are only a very pilots who would have been personally assigned too that Harrier
yes....bae Warton. two harriers.
@@ProfSimonHolland Go through the pilots list, they keep records of who flew when, maitenace logs, a lot of ' not at all secret ' information that could lead to the actual ID of the pilot. Pilots have their own logs as well, they often record UFOs in them, as they are not really required to be handed in. Never know, he might actually be happy to talk about it now, if still alive, the photo was sometime ago, GR.3s were the mainstay in the late 70s-mid 80s. A pilot would have been between 21-35 roughly at the time of the flight.
I live d next to RAF Wittering in Cambridgeshire, the other raf station he tried yo pronouncevwill bevRAF North Luffenham in Rutland - now itsvan army barracks but never had harriers. It had some cold war stuff and then becane a bomb disposal site@ProfSimonHolland
@@IAmTheOnlyFish Does anyone know the Harrier squadrons that were at these bases?
@@ProfSimonHolland Do you know the Harrier squadrons numbers?
"Secret military technology" you bet it is.
But, have we been visited?
The river in the area around Calvine/Struan is the Garry and not the Spey which is further North.
I am willing to go to planet Zog and see if it was from there.
I still have a feeling that I am looking at a small island in a Loch, with a reflection of an a/c in the water.
I live in the Highlands and Islands and see these islands in this aspect quite a bit.
Yeah I wonder if the camera angle with the fence makes more sense like that
Well, go find the Loch. And photograph it and duplicate this picture. Do you accept the challenge?
@@Odin197188 Since you put up the challenge, will you also pay for the excursion?
@@Odin197188 not possible to get it in one picture as it's a double exposure, but the location is the north bank of loch errochty.
The “rock” or island should still be there. Should be easy to debunk. Right?
I seen one almost like this but the bottom was flat and it was about as high as the highway signs that tell you what lane to be in, The big sign that goes over all 4 lanes not a roadside sign , It was big enough that it would have covaried all 4 lanes if it landed and there were 3 of them. This was back in 89, On the highway in NB canada almost in the same place I seen the cigar UFO almost land,
Northrop Grumman made it in 1973. Not alien. I just identified it for you. So, no longer a UFO.
Me quite obvious that since the late 40s of the twentieth century, a secret project has been developing in the United States for the development and production of aircraft, where the lifting force is created using high-frequency vibration. It all started with James Pitts' "Sky Car" vibrating orthotopter umbrella, then the umbrella was closed with a dome and devices appeared according to the scheme of conventional electromagnetic vibrating speakers (membrane + inductance) - fragments of the membrane were found by a farmer in Roswell. Then they created piezoelectric thrusters, or with small dischargers on the surface (they glowed all over the body due to ionization of the air), and now they are planes with plasma propulsion panels (so they are angular - that is, with flat surfaces). Thousands of discharge cells are densely packed into motor panels - they shoot streams of plasma (railgun architecture - coaxial electrodes). The ionized air of the spark discharge is accelerated in the railgun chamber by the Lorentz force to enormous speeds - a kind of ramjet engine is obtained. Just imagine! - tens of thousands of small ramjet engines assembled in panels and launching plasma synchronously at a huge frequency (hundreds of kilohertz). Plasma jets form toroidal air vortices - this air cushion creates lift and acceleration. See, for example, the MARAUDER (Magnetically Accelerated Ring to Achieve Ultra-high Directed Energy and Radiation) project. My article "UFOs are made in the USA" and the books "UFO Hunt" and "UFO Elimination" describe all this in detail. The technology is quite mundane - it is known in great detail thanks to information leaks. For example, air ionization in the coaxial elements of a railgun is created using radiation (radioactive polonium is introduced into the metal). Devices of this type were used throughout the 50s-60s-70s-80s for secret missions (they took off, as a rule, from special submarines). With the fall of the USSR, their use by the United States was practically curtailed (in the novel "Little Green Men" by Christopher Buckley, speechwriter Bush Sr., a scene is described where the US president decides to curtail the "flying saucer" project). The winding down of the project can be recorded by the drop in magnesium consumption in the United States, since such fuel was used in fuel cells (magnesium strips were burned in forced galvanic batteries), this is 2007-2008. However, later the development of the technology continued in the Russian Federation and China (the technology was restored by reverse engineering methods for downed devices). Secrecy, however, was maintained and there was no civilian use because the technology was not suitable for it - harmful microwave radiation from pulsed plasma thrusters (harm to pilots and impact on electrical appliances inside and along the flight line). The payload is small (but one nuclear charge is enough). There is no radio communication - the discharges create interference and jam electronics - unmanned vehicles can fly and maneuver only in accordance with the program. Previously, there was a narrow application profile - rare spy missions (so that pilots do not get a lot of radiation). Reconnaissance aircraft of this type were often observed at military bases, missile launch sites and airfields. They were even seen by peaceful geologists in the taiga, where clearings for seismic exploration were laid - UFOs flew there to check whether military construction was underway (I myself heard stories about this))). I think that soon this technology will be declassified, and cargo airships with flickering round plasma panels on the surface of the hull will appear in the Arctic sky.
@@Pavel_Poluian back in the 70s my grandfather '' lifetime army'' told me about cell phones and computers and tablets and a base on the moon, I was 10 and watching ''space 1999 '' and I asked him do you think we will ever go to the moon and live like they do on tv and he said We already have a space station on the moon and we have all the stuff they have and I have used it and in 30 years they will start letting people know about it slowly, Soon you will have a phone in your pocket and a computer that lets you see and talk to your friends, After some time talking I asked why don't they let us have this stuff and he said They keep people about 50 years behind just in case we decide to fight the government, Maybe it's all true or maybe he made a guess. When I think about what he said and then think about things today like the sky trumpets I think that sound is some weapon they are testing, That sound played at the right tone would drive people crazy if played long enough. Also when the government is not interested in it then it's them doing it.
@@Pavel_PoluianWow! That's a lot of interesting information. Tell me this though, are these totally man-made constructions or are they back engineered from recovered craft possibly of alien origin? Ty.
Excellent visualization, I had originally believed the photo was taken from a hill at a downward angle to the loch.
I don't like the UFOs angle if the visualization is correct, it seems too conveniently angled towards the camera
@@shardovl586 Hopefully more information will surface and the truth will surface.
I get strong Hawker Hunter vibes from that aircraft blur, not Harrier. Just a thought.
Yep when I first saw the picture I immediately thought hawker hunter
Just realised you had the same idea as me going down the hunter as a possibility tho I've no idea if they would be in service at the time
@@101Cypher they was used for trainers for new pilots
Even in the extreme animation in the beginning, where the fence is up a hill and the photographer basically put the camera on the ground in order to get only sky above the fence, it still would not be above the horizon line. It just doesn't add up angle-wise that the horizon line would not be in the center of the photo given how strait on the fence is photographed.
You basically need the fence to be at quadruple the height of the camera to avoid getting the horizon in the shot. And if they were laying that low, we'd see a much bigger angle on the fence, enough for the spacing on the wires to appear very tiny or be nonexistent. But we clearly see the normal spacing you would expect to see on a fence like that while looking at it at a mild angle at best.
Not sure if the Harrier is a definite identification, but could it have been a SEPECAT Jaguar flying? It looks very similar to a Harrier, and there were some squadrons based up at RAF Lossiemouth, though if they were active in Scotland at the time needs to be confirmed.
It might have been shot with a Rolleiflex TLR camera which would account for the low shooting angle since the camera is held at about waist or chest level and the shooter is looking down at the viewfinder. As a film camera, it would have taken a few frantic seconds to adjust the aperture and coördinate it with the ASA setting if you hadn’t already done so. The good news is, if you can find the negative, the film size is much larger than 35mm so it would have less grain when enlarged.
There were also cheaper cameras of this type, TLR, that were made for the non-professional market and were everywhere. The lens wouldn’t have been been as good and wouldn’t have had the depth of field of the Rolleiflex. That would account for the indistinct horizon line further softened by the Scottish mist. The object itself might appear a bit blurry if the film slow and the shutter speed set at a longer exposure. This might indicate that the object was wobbling or vibrating whilst hovering in the air.
Try and find that negative.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it's a F-4 from RAF Leuchars? I worked on both the F-4 (for two years) and Harrier (for fifteen years), and believe it or not, from a distance the silhouettes look very similar.
Hawker hunter
@@MrAckers75 I disagree.
thanks Billy
Please contribute to the case- if you know how - FOIA Leuchars? Flight logs/Forums for x servicemen/ help us out?
@@straiph Hello
Well I live in Texas and I'm a United States citizen, so I doubt any FOIA request I make to the U.K would gain any traction? I have been on the forums, and everyone agrees, why would they send a subsonic ground attack aircraft, with limited radar, to investigate something like this? I know for a fact it wasn't an American aircraft. As far as my hypothesis that it is a F-4, someone in the U.K should be able to track down the pilots, in this time frame there were only two F-4 squadrons left, and one was in the process of transitioning to Tornadoes. I will help all I can, I'm curious as heck also?
He doesn’t want to speak because he knows he faked it, that’s my guess. The area is close to the busy A9 Perth to Inverness road, It would’ve been notice by a lot more people.
He doesn't want to speak because 3 government guys paid him & his friend a visit.
@@straiph Of all the cars that go up and down the busy A9 road, hundreds an hour, nobody saw anything. I suppose they were also found and had a visit.
To me the ufo looks like an aircraft flying a turn so we can see it top side and is very similar to the Lockheed called Hopeless Diamond or the Taranis that BAE Systems tested or even Messerschmidt Lampyridaehad that I believe was tested at the time the picture was taken.
Disc cam's were popular then to .
The air shows were Saturdays, they had harriers at Leuchars, fife.
yes....airshows...but military training is mon to friday
The nose cone on the harrier is the maritime version RNAS.
The RAF Harrier had the Bottle nose type.
It's a Hawker Hunter.
@@zulu5282 I was thinking hunter as an alternative.
Is the resolution clear enough to tell?
@benthejrporter as a former aviator who flew hunters I'd say yes.
@@zulu5282 Fair enough. Cool.
Could they have taken the photo lying down on the ground trying not to be noticed.
Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence of 👽🛸
Ridiculous- it’s clearly swamp gas
Can’t you find the lake in Calvine and recreate the picture? If there’s a rock sticking up, the picture should be easily duplicated, right?
Why does it have to be in Calvine? I think the lake reflection theory is really quite a stupid fixation some people obsessed about.
That craft was huge, metallic and could hover and then rise straight up, it is no way our tech then or now.
think drone lighter than air craft.
Explain its control surfaces.
I claim the man in a boat. I came up with it on my own and it's not my fault lots of people agree!
How do you explain the tail wing? I Think it has been added with spotting ink but others have suggested it is a rucksack or the like. I originally thought boat because the nearest 'wing' looks more like a distorted, flapping oar, also the perspective I see, my brain tells me I'm looking down onto water not up in the air. I don't claim to be the person who came up with the boat theory, a local Scot suggested the location about 18 months ago and I think others at the time were saying it's a boat in the comments.
it was YOU! ha
I read most of Timothy Good's books as a kid, Above Top Secret, all those. But now as a cynical jaded adult I just don't care about this subject anymore. I feel like we've been going in circles for the past 40 years, resolving absolutely nothing of any consequence. And the truth is, aliens could land on the Whitehouse lawn in front of the world's press and no-one would care, just like nobody cares about the Grusch testimonies. In fact we'd spend the next ten years debating whether it ever happened. Whether we are alone or not, the result seems to be the same.
I am a fellow jaded adult. For all intents and purposes, aliens have landed on the Whitehouse lawn, in the case of the Ummites, who landed on Earth in the early 1960s and stayed for several decades (some may still be here for all we know), living amongst humans on the Spanish / French border. During their stay, they espoused at great length nuggets of ET wisdom which they distributed to various doctors, professors and whoever they felt might have an interest in what they had to say. This entire chronicle is in the public domain. It was easy for them to blend in, day to day, because they are identical in appearance to us. When it came them leaving, they advertised their departure in a Madrid newspaper, and attracted a small crowd to the Madrid park from where they took off. Several photos were taken of their disk craft, some of which were in the same newspaper the next morning. And then everyone went on with their lives. Somehow it suits the collective conscious that they do not exist, and yet on we go with the search, round and round, with SETI and searches for habitable planets and on and on. And of course more of this weary Calvine nonsense. Ooh, what could it be? Aliens. It's aliens already. But it'll never be aliens.
Mr Holland seems somewhat uncomfortable speaking to these two men. Maybe because of the very strange attitude he took to towards this picture when it resurfaced, rambling on about how it was a reflection of an island in a lake with a man in a rowing boat. 😳 🤷🏾♀️
yea....keep up.. i moved on to a military test aircraft or a rock
Why would a harrier be escorting the object, that would be my first question. Why a slow hovering jet compared to fast attack aircraft.
it might have been testing laser or radar from BAE. the diamond craft, if a stealth drone would not move horizontally very fast but have quick vertical acceleration
Keep asking Professor 👍👍
Calvine, is pronounced: Cal'veen
I'd look at RAF Leuchers (just north west of St Andrews) as a potential place the harrier could have came from , Calvine is only 40 miles from there. I'm almost certain harriers flew there also 🤔
Edit: Spelling
In August 1990 the two squadrons based at RAF Leuchars were about nearing completion of switching from Phantoms to Tornadoes. I can’t categorically say there were never any Harriers based there but I don’t think so. I lived in Fife for all of the 1980s and I don’t remember seeing any Harriers except at airshow time.
It was niggling me so I looked into it a bit more ,
Royal Marine Condor (base) is just up the coast in Arbroath , I'm sure the harriers at Leuchers were there's.
@@moschops999I'm still here , those airshows were something else 👍
RAF reconnaissance aircraft (of various types) often fly a considerable proportion of the country's length to reach operational locations that also happen to be in the UK. More about task speciality than being a geographical neighbour. Best cast the net wide therefore.
@@DavidEsp1 Your absolutely correct, I was just flinging another idea in the mix to encourage more discussion
Stealth material testing blimp maybe….
LOCKHEED HOPELESS DIAMOND PROFESSOR
James fox released a short clip of a Scottish man describing a ufo..I'm guessing it's the Calvin photographer or the guy that was with him.
yep
Someone already asked that and got a real answer
What amazes me is that even Scots can't pronounce KalVeeN!!
thanks for clearing that up.
Everyone thinks it is like a diamond shaped craft, however look closely and the bottom could actually be flat, it may be a very early T3BR ?
Is it possible it's an early type of drone with a covering around it
@@nigelheffernan3857 Cool idea, but, I would think any covering would get in the way of whatever makes it move.
scotch mist?
Plasma anti missile tech.
Fuzzy photo cuz edges constantly in flow state ,never real solid edges.
Question: Why can you see the Hawaiian island on the horizon while standing on a beach in San Diego??
Not because the Earth is flat. There is a rational and easy answer to that question. Go take a photo, publish it here and I'll explain it to anyone still interested.
These devices do not have any super-physical properties (check out the book Bruce Maccabee "Ufo and the FBI" for an example). Watch the video "UFO over Tahiti", read the messages of police officer Lenny Zamora from New Mexico and geologist Stefan Michalyak from Canada... These devices are simply more maneuverable, because they are light - they are not made of metal, but of composite materials. Super-physical properties are the interpretations of witnesses or even direct misinformation from special services hiding the military use of this technology. Read Christopher Buckley book "Little Green Man".
I don't think you can see Hawaii from the California coast, but I've never been to verify.
@@ThunderboltWisdom Don't look there)))💩👽💩
Kodak Disc 4000 - great for close up. Distance not very good at all....
I'm not a aircraft expert but I'm just going to suggest that could the plane be a hawker hunter, my first thought was a harrier, but as they seem to be accounted for, I just think the hunter from a distance may be a possibility, tho I'm not sure if they were in use still then.
Can't you get a ai to look at it
That has always been part of the phenomenon. The pictures and videos are always not good enough. Unless it is a professional photographer with adequate staging and preparation. the videos and photos will always be "not good enough" 😂
They are very difficult to photograph and film. The objects are know to be blurry or fuzzy in appearance anyway. The photos and videos often show that phenomenon.
Thanks prof, it's funny how when you compare it to early models of the hopeless diamond, there are some similarities' If you can find early models of the stealth fighter - and I mean really early mock ups.. it does have commonalities.
What about the Stealth Aircraft being a F117 Night Hawk???
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Nighthawk had neutral wing dihedral, but the photo seems to have some contrasting brightness of the two wings. To me, this indicates negative dihedral like a Harrier.
@@DistracticusPrime I mean the mysterious Craft. I'm not worried about the Harrier.
Still not convinced it is a Flying Saucer.
With that odd bit at one end of it could it not be an early type of overhead powerline marker
or "Bird diverter" as they used to be known?
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Just looks manmade because there is rudders on the back, so it's probably full of helium gas.
Its.....a British MOD balloon...!!! 😛
Yep that's what I said on the original video. Also others think the same thing. UFO's don't have tails.
The sides of the craft are that way to confuse radar.
There's a guy in Puerto Rico that got even better pictures
Still don’t think it’s a harrier ….hawker hunter I think
Do we know the long and lats of the location where they saw it??
calvine above the village we think
@@ProfSimonHolland To the north or south do we know?
Has anyone found the exact place this photo was taken? I’m curious if there is an ocean view near this spot at all and if this could be a reflection or not
no ocean...people,think they have found a likely spot....the fence is an unusual feature in that part of,scotland....looks like a sheep fence.
@@ProfSimonHolland please share location if confirmed
@@AustinSamuelFit's on my x account/pictures/film & GPS location WilsonStraiph
Nick Pope has a location that he thinks it was taken from, but can't really match up the mountains to the picture when overlayed.
@@RidinWithMyLocsOn Nicks proposed location is wrong. Giles Stevens & myself have walked the whole area. I've actually gone to where Nick made up his Calvine mock-up. It's on the opposite side of the A9.
Please interview Nick Pope!!
The detail on the right side of craft in this picture look like some kind of wing.
I'm leaning towards a top secret military craft.
The question about secret technologies... I knows that there are sightings of aircraft that look quite technologically advanced - there is no need for any anti-gravity fiction.
The term for that effect whereby hills that are farther away appear paler is: 'aerial perspective'
Thanks for the work you are all doing regarding this mystery.
Good point!
This story needs the photographer (hikers) to come forward to go any further. I hope they do come forward some day. We can then put the rock in the water to rest.
one might be the photographer but he is not talking....
New video ! Yaaaaas
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I see I click it’s that simple
cheers Prof :)
Our professor is the best. How bout the gobekli teppe situation? Wana give that a quick look for us?....please.
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