As a Las Vegas citizen I can say this was shocking, to say the least. But usually when we talk about the Paradise area we say “downtown” or “The Strip”.
Kind of unrelated, but I love when people are shocked by the fact that the city of Las Vegas is almost 50% mormon. Both my middle and high schools were overrun with them.
@@blahblah2344 That's true, but also as a Las Vegas/Paradise native, we still call the strip downtown, at least in my friends circle. If we actually mean downtown we say Fremont directly. Sometimes it does get confusing and people say downtown to mean Fremont, and then the strip is just called the strip. We really should make it more obvious lol
@@wulerold You don't know Vegas if you call the Strip downtown. Even tourists know the Strip and downtown are 2 totally different areas. I have lived on the Strip for over a decade and i have never came across anyone who calls it downtown. Your friends are idiots.
@@blahblah2344 I love how you resorted to insults over something so trivial lmao. I have lived here since I was born. Just because you are trying to take some intellectual high road doesn't mean you're correct. And no, I always hear the strip and downtown referenced by tourists as the same thing. People don't know the difference and quite honestly it really doesn't matter.
MrMinerGuy142 I'll debate with you since you actually came up with a clever comment. Communism is the one which requires government to function. Free market capitalism, or anarcho-capitalism puts the power in the people. Corporations don't get subsidies so if people don't like the company then the company either changes or goes out of business.
@stockart whiteman The tax was a one off tax to pay back expenditure the Brits spent from preventing Americans from having French as your first language. Eventually, when the country had matured enough, the plan was to give the country independence, the same as was done for Canada, to be done without war and loss of life.
True. It's basically wholesome clickbait. Where it's technically clickbait since it catches your attention prompting you to click the video, but it isn't a lie nor an exaggeration. Rather a truth with a technicality as a footnote. Which is awesome. :D
Fun fact: Officially unincorporated places are common enough in Maryland that the two most populated unincorporated county seats in the country are both located in Maryland (Towson and Ellicott City)
+Ryuu Ainaki Fallout's universe has both an alternate future and alternate past, so it's possible that in the alternate past, at some point between the 1950s and 2077 the two combined. Or in the 200 years following the war, the popular idea of calling Paradise what most people call it, Las Vegas, went from being the colloquial name, to the real name. There are also technicalities because Las Vegas Valley is a thing, and the ZIP/Postal codes for Paradise use Las Vegas mailing addresses.
I hate how people don't understand that people actually live in vegas. I've lived here all my life and when I tell some people they are always like "wot you love in a hotel?" no I don't. This doesn't have much to do with the video but I just needed to say that.
I know right? I moved out of Vegas to Tennessee, because of special circumstances, (I'm back now though) and when I told them I where I was from, my fucking geography teacher asked me which building I lived in.
I agree. I'm born and raised here. People need to understand there's 2.2 million people living here. Also not to long ago, Las Vegas just beat out Baltimore Maryland city population.
Depends on if you mean the Kansas City Missouri side or not. Kansas City Missouri is actually the bigger side because it has lower state taxes or at least did for a long time.
Hen Barrison You can just ignore any sentence that begins with the word "technically"; it frees up so much time... and makes your life so much more BORING! Getting hung up on technicalities can only be solved by being technically correct!
@@davidgill3356 Winchester is an unincorporated town of Clark County. Just like the video says the residents pay taxes to the county (Clark). However, the addresses in Winchester says Las Vegas, NV.
So what's the story behind Las Vegas being okay with Paradise using their city's name in advertising? Or why does Paradise insist on not using it's own name when advertising? Basically: why does this misconception exist?
TheJaredtheJaredlong if you watch the last few seconds after all the outro stuff, he mentions that both are in Las Vegas Valley, so technically Paradise is in Las Vegas, just its the valley, not the city
TheJaredtheJaredlong No one here uses the name "Paradise". You either live in Las Vegas, Summerlin, or Henderson. Just like how the Las Vegas you think of when you see The Strip is technically Paradise, Summerlin is technically Las Vegas; but nobody moves to Summerlin and still wants to use the degrading city name "Las Vegas".
@@discordian4669 It's literally shown in maps though? There are street signs that denote which "town" you're in, and every separate "town" has it's own police force. I guess if you aren't local to Vegas it would be easy to miss though.
Nevada itself REBELLED against the Federal government by legalizing gambling, the same way Nevada residents rebelled against the city taxes by moving outside the city limits.
There is no Federal prohibition on gambling in the USA. It's up to the states to set laws and regulations pertaining to gaming and gambling in their own state.
Actually, lots of places in the west are unincorporated counties. I live in unincorporated-Snohomish County, WA. A nearby city has tried to annex several times unsuccessfully
Steven B Las Vegas is a special case because it's dense but still unincorporated. It's not a strange thing for Nowhere, WA to be unincorporated because there aren't enough people for it to matter.
No reason to be disrespectful, and the population is about 750k FYI. She said it's unusual for a county to be unicoperated and I'm pointing out it's really not-there are lots of places.
It gets even more confusing when you realize where the "las vegas" and "unincorporated counties" are, and how it screws with our utilities and licensing. For example, I opened a business ON Sahara Blvd. But when I went to submit my paperwork for the business license, I had to add an addendum to notate if I was on the South side of the street or the North side, because the Northern side of the street- that abuts the West bound half of the road- Is in "Unincorporated Clark County" and thus not subject to any of the city laws, taxes or licenses. However if I was on the Southern side- adjacent to the East Bound half of the road- then my costs would more than quadruple and I would have to obtain about 3 more "licenses and permits". To make things that much more fun, when I lived in one condo, on one side of my street, I had my water through the Las Vegas Valley Water District, whoever on the same street, just the other side of the street, and my water was now through the "City of North Las Vegas".. BTW, The actual City of North Las Vegas is about 15 miles from my house and in no way even adjacent to the particular "Unincorporated municipality" that I live in. OH! I almost forgot, let's make this a little more complicatedly fun.. Paradise is not the only Unincorporated Place; the majority of the Las Vegas Valley is in one of many "Unincorporated places". In some areas, the entire "Unincorporated Place" is no bigger than the one house it encompasses, and they are sporadic, uneven, and random. I've seen a few areas where two stores in the same strip mall end up in different "Unincorporated/Incorporated" places. In fact, our cops regularly fudge the mile markers where they pull people over, in order to increase the costs of tickets, since they change depending on whichever unincorporated/incorporated place you're in.... O_O
Wrong about our cops "fudging" tickets to get more money. Speaking as someone who used to be a police dispatcher in LVMPD. The ticket starts where the crime occurred so, if you ran a red light but it took said cop a block to pull you over and now you crossed from city to county and you're stopped in county, your ticket is reflected for the city, not the county. They often call over the radio to have the dispatcher verify where the city/county line is at. Cops don't care about pulling people over just to give the city more money. They are not sheisty & complicated like that, they are much more simple. They are pulling you over simply because you broke the law. And really, most want to deal with more exciting stuff like robberies in progress, a car stop where the person runs from them, etc. Your average citizen, they're gonna do their job but that's the easy, mundane stuff. I promise you, they don't care about the cost of your ticket or where you pay it to.
And that's why cities should lower taxes and remove unnecessary licensing regulations. High taxes are just plain bad, and licensing is often put in place by the existing members of a trade to prevent new competition from coming into the city.
"The Casinos were rich enough to provide their own [necessary services], notably using their security forces as de facto police" Ah, yes. *AnCap Time.*
both teams were tired of being second fiddle to the Yankees and Mets when it came to field useage. When the Jets played at Shea stadium, they couldn't have a home game until the Mets season ended, which was trouble in 1969 and 1973. the Jets didn't get any home games in 1969 until week six, and then played at Shea straight through to week 12. in 1973 they went clear to week 7 on the road. As for the stadium's location, the Meadowlands swamps were basically the only place in the metro area you could build a stadium that big with sufficient parking for 80,000 plus and not get anyone angry at you. When they tried to build a stadium on the west side of Manhattan for the Jets when Giants Stadium's useful life ended, political hell broke lose, which is why the Jets stuck with Giants and share MetLife (Which I still like calling "New Meadowlands" cause it sounds SO much cooler)
And in baseball we have the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Now Anaheim is an incorporated city approximately 30 miles south east of downtown Los Angeles. It's not even in Los Angeles County, it's part of Orange County and is better known as the home of Disneyland. Arte Moreno, the current owner of the Angels had the marketing idea/ego trip that he could make the Angels into a bigger and more lucrative property by associating the team with Los Angeles area even though the Los Angeles Dodgers hold a strong grip on most Los Angeles baseball fans hearts and Orange County fans more or less despise being identified with the Los Angeles. Anaheim is still an official part of the team's name because the Angels home games are played in Angels Stadium, which is owned by the City of Anaheim. So neither the Angels nor Anaheim are part of L.A., but the stupid name; which pretty much all baseball fans in both Los Angeles and Orange Counties think is ridiculous, persists.
Why? I imagine most of the Mojave Desert is nice and quiet. Surely you can gin up a reason to go investigate reports of hooliganism out in the boonies from time to time when you desperately need a quiet day at work.
The mob isn't subject to the same level of government oversight as multinational corporations. Caesar's and MGM don't go around torturing and murdering people who don't pay their debts, they just sue their pants off or let the banks sue their pants off for them. I'm sure their business practices aren't exactly squeaky clean, but let's not pretend like they're anywhere near as dangerous or destructive as the mob.
@@tissuepaper9962 Depends on how you describe dangerous or destructive. For one, having a monopoly on attractions may kill off competition and allows for unchecked control over prices (which could be destructive or dangerous). Or any (legal or illegal) methods that may be used to disincentivize competition.
@@introspectiver1787 (anti-competitive business practices) or (anti-competitive business practices + *murder ),* I wonder which I'd rather have in my town.
I love your videos and just found this one. And a BIG THANK YOU!!! I grew up in "Las Vegas", actually Paradise Township. As a kid we didn't realize we were different. New York City burrows were strange things that city folk did. And don't forget, we haven't given in to city "control". Every few years, since I was a kid in the 60s, THEY try to get us to vote for incorporation. We aren't stupid. Vegas as a "City" hasn't grown and inch in decades. I think Henderson and North Las Vegas might be bigger by now. But us in Paradise, Whitney Winchester and Enterprise Townships are still safe from city taxes. Lolololol
I- people live on the strip? I havent been there much but how? And yeah Las Vegas as in the actual city has been growing a lot. Whole new neighborhoods exist and you can pass by new ones being built
not only is there Paradise but, Summerlin, Henderson, North Las Vegas, West Las Vegas, Sunrise Manor, Spring Valley, Green Valley, and Enterprise but you can just calls us Vegas.
@SAMWEST Summerlin isn't technically a city but there is over 100,000 people living there. Its more of a way for Howard Hughes Co. to make money. It works well, they made about 5 billion alone from summerlin.
U r wrong also the real cities here r Las Vegas North Las Vegas Henderson and Clark county how I know kz I am contractor n those r the olny cities that counts here
This clarifies a lot! When you read that Las Vegas has a pop. of over 2M, a functional place that size with things like hospitals, libraries or schools doesn't sound compatible with "The Strip". All of it located in an immediately adjacent community with differing governance makes the whole affair seem more sustainable.
Hail from Spring Valley, the **Unincorporated Place** West of Paradise (we have Vegas Chinatown and reach almost all the way to the Western edge of town to Summerlin South).
Reuben Williams Actually it was the Mormon pioneers. But still I wonder why he bothered to mention mormons at all and then use Salt Lake as the background to a Las Vegas video. Maybe he's hinting at a video about mormons, who knows?
"The Strip" is Paradise, Freeside is the actual City of Las Vegas, taking it's name from Freemont Street (the one with the crazy video roof thing and the cowboy sign).
Came up on my suggested viewing, and was surprised I never saw this video. Still holds up and could have been a new video that leads into what the city of Las Vegas can do about tourism in wake of the various quarantine measures.
just an interesting note- while less official unincorporated communities are pretty common in the US (and obv there's Paradise) in the state of Alaska, there is the "Unincorporated Borough," meaning that it is possible to escape both city- and county-level regulations & taxes, as long as you're willing to go to somewhere that's considered the middle of nowhere even by Alaskan standards.
well, u could go to the north vegas airport, (if ur super rich) or the henderson airport (if ur super rich aswell) so really, u hav to go to mcarran international airport (unless ur super rich)
If Paradise is only defined by being not a city, how can it have a name? Can I just randomly choose some square mile of desert and name it "Penny's awesome patch of land?"
I also live in an unincorporated area, called Ladera Ranch. Edit: We have police, sewers, and schools but I think all of those are directly from the county, not another city.
***** . I don't know why Facebook says it's malicious content, but when you 'create content' on RUclips you can `deselect` the setting: Allow Embedding. . So that the videos won't run within the other program. . That may be the source of the problem. .. (And, you can: "Make this video available *only* on monetised platforms.")
"Everything that happens within its borders, the actual city of Las Vegas has no control over." Kinda gives a new meaning to the phrase, "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."
1:08 You don't need a city for any of those things, though. You can have school districts and water/sewer districts without cities or towns, as we do in WA. Counties usually provide the policing for those areas.
It’s simpler and more straight forward. New Jersey is the same thing as well. And in the UK and former Commonwealth realms it’s the exact same thing too. Counties provide the policing, and school/water boards are independent from city or town councils
prolly the level of violence and willingness to break the law. corperations will usually cheat alot on the edge of "is that really what the law says?" territory as where cooking the books, money laundering and other such obviously illegal practices practiced by the mobsters of old were unique to them. mobsters took a way more aggressive stance on cheating.
Ironically the mob actually took better care of their employees and actually spearheaded the need for racially desegregated work environments because it brought in the bigger bucks. But yeah crime and illicit drug dealing was a downside too 🤣
As a resident of Paradise, I don't pay City Taxes. What I DO pay is my respects to those idiots who have lost thousands of dollars on the strip.
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There is a game where you guess how long someone was there by how sad and poor they looked, i believe i found it on a car show based in Vegas
Advanced court tactic am i right?
@@cookimsnookims3775 game? can i bet on that? :P
I agree with this statement as well as a paradise resident
What happens in in Vegas, Stays in Paradise.
RealSpaceModels What is tax in Vegas, stays in Paradise in Paradise.
RealSpaceModels Give to Vegas what belongs to Vegas and to Paradise what belongs to Paradise and to the county a bit of everything.
RealSpaceModels
Gives a whole new spin on the nickname "Sin City"
***** and to add to the confusion, the Clark County Detention Center is technically in Winchester, NV.
What happens in llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, stays in llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
As a Las Vegas citizen I can say this was shocking, to say the least. But usually when we talk about the Paradise area we say “downtown” or “The Strip”.
Downtown is not in Paradise. Only the Strip is.
Kind of unrelated, but I love when people are shocked by the fact that the city of Las Vegas is almost 50% mormon. Both my middle and high schools were overrun with them.
@@blahblah2344 That's true, but also as a Las Vegas/Paradise native, we still call the strip downtown, at least in my friends circle. If we actually mean downtown we say Fremont directly. Sometimes it does get confusing and people say downtown to mean Fremont, and then the strip is just called the strip. We really should make it more obvious lol
@@wulerold You don't know Vegas if you call the Strip downtown. Even tourists know the Strip and downtown are 2 totally different areas. I have lived on the Strip for over a decade and i have never came across anyone who calls it downtown. Your friends are idiots.
@@blahblah2344 I love how you resorted to insults over something so trivial lmao. I have lived here since I was born. Just because you are trying to take some intellectual high road doesn't mean you're correct. And no, I always hear the strip and downtown referenced by tourists as the same thing. People don't know the difference and quite honestly it really doesn't matter.
I approve that ending..."If you think this was just a city-sized tax dodge...you're right." lol, seems like America to me.
yeah real capitalism never relies on bribes and govt breaks... except it always does
+Lone Wolf Capitalism does not need government to function.
randumpotato
lol random turd... go watch some cartoons
But he's right, it just really really sucks when capitalism doesn't have government. Well, it sucks for everyone but the capitalists at least.
MrMinerGuy142 I'll debate with you since you actually came up with a clever comment. Communism is the one which requires government to function.
Free market capitalism, or anarcho-capitalism puts the power in the people. Corporations don't get subsidies so if people don't like the company then the company either changes or goes out of business.
"city-sized tax dodge"
This country was a tax dodge Grey...
No taxation without representation!
@@SunnySJamil no representation without intelligence
@stockart whiteman. Well said!
@stockart whiteman bu...bu-bu-bu- America bad!
@stockart whiteman The tax was a one off tax to pay back expenditure the Brits spent from preventing Americans from having French as your first language. Eventually, when the country had matured enough, the plan was to give the country independence, the same as was done for Canada, to be done without war and loss of life.
Little did grey know that 'blowing tumbleweed' would take over his life.
is this a reference to that obscure tumbleweed stampede video from like 8 years ago?
@@geyotepilkington2892 no, I think it's the recent video he published
@@henriquepedrazzi9008 Videos, not video.
@Frank Parker Hexagons are the Bestagons...
Who is Tumbleweed?
"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" Well you were in Paradise so THIS IS GOING ALLLLL OVER FACEBOOK.
+Joseph Birch I think the whole point of that saying is that it's fine if you do it in Paradise, not in Vegas
+Joseph Birch You obviously didn't but should have watched the last 15 seconds
+Nilz Whoops, my bad. Guess I'm not used to waiting til the end of a sponsor blip for extra content.
Joseph Douglas I'm just gonna like this so it is 1k
Joseph Douglas lol
I like how even if CGPgrey's video looks like its clickbait, it tells you exactly what the title says.
True. It's basically wholesome clickbait. Where it's technically clickbait since it catches your attention prompting you to click the video, but it isn't a lie nor an exaggeration. Rather a truth with a technicality as a footnote. Which is awesome. :D
@@moondust2365 cgp grey: did somebody say footnotes!!
I just realized that Paradise sounds eerily similar to pair of dice. Coincidence? I don't think so.
There is a Pair A Dice casino in East Peoria, IL.
I'm surprised your comment doesn't have many likes.
hotel? Trivago
@@waldo2565 Richard Pryor claimed Peoria was paradise. Harry Carry would always get excited, too - "They're here from Pay-or-ee-ah!!"
This legit opened my third eye. Thanks.
We should name it new vegas
Solaa
I see what you did there. I love Fallout New Vegas (unless that's not what you did :/ ).
Гайка I ナット no new las vegas...
first vegas? because the other one is las vegas??
I'm sorry.
Ahh Robert house should own it lmao
MagneticLizard no
So I guess my favorite movie should be renamed to, "Fear and Loathing in Paradise"?
You know what, that sounds metal as fuck.
YoBadMama There is band named after the movie and I think that they would sound ever more metal than they already are if they changed it to paradise
Cole Lantz That Japanese metal band that did Parasyte's OP, right?
They still go to north Las Vegas in the movie though. Which I think is part of trying to paint a bigger picture of Las Vegas than the strip.
Fun fact: Officially unincorporated places are common enough in Maryland that the two most populated unincorporated county seats in the country are both located in Maryland (Towson and Ellicott City)
So Fallout New Vegas is really Fallout New Paradise?
+Ryuu Ainaki yep
+Ryuu Ainaki Check the end. It happened in the Las Vegas Valley
Nobody really cares. Just keep killing legioners, take their money, spend it on chips and then get caps :-)
+Ryuu Ainaki Fallout's universe has both an alternate future and alternate past, so it's possible that in the alternate past, at some point between the 1950s and 2077 the two combined. Or in the 200 years following the war, the popular idea of calling Paradise what most people call it, Las Vegas, went from being the colloquial name, to the real name. There are also technicalities because Las Vegas Valley is a thing, and the ZIP/Postal codes for Paradise use Las Vegas mailing addresses.
Thank you. I wasn't the only nerd here, haha ^^
Me: I can't possibly like cgp grey more than I already do
Cgp grey: *makes firefly reference*
Me: nevermind
I didn't catch that, what was the reference?
Ionlymadethistoleavecoments The example unincorporated area gets named Jaynestown. See the episode of the same name.
Ionlymadethistoleavecoments 1:14 Jaynestown
The hero of canton, the man they call Jayne!
Me: I can't possibly like CGPGrey more than I already do
Grey: uploads video
Me: nevermind
**sees Vegas**
**sees Morman**
**sees Ceasor**
*Fallout New Vegas Time*
Patorling the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter
@@kfirarthegamer798 we wont go quietly. the legion can count on that
@Dilophosaurus #078 we'll have vegas annexed before the year is out
@Dilophosaurus #078 what if i planted a cazador nest outside of freeside
Ave. True to Caesar.
The new slave girls are quite beautiful.
I hate how people don't understand that people actually live in vegas. I've lived here all my life and when I tell some people they are always like "wot you love in a hotel?" no I don't. This doesn't have much to do with the video but I just needed to say that.
So you pay taxes to the county, not the town?
I know right? I moved out of Vegas to Tennessee, because of special circumstances, (I'm back now though) and when I told them I where I was from, my fucking geography teacher asked me which building I lived in.
+Tristan Romanov he lives in Las Vagas, not paradise, I think..
ye Vegas
I agree. I'm born and raised here. People need to understand there's 2.2 million people living here. Also not to long ago, Las Vegas just beat out Baltimore Maryland city population.
take me down to the paradise city then
Ely Rogers it all makes sense now!!!
Take me down to the Paradise Unincorporated Territory!
Ely Rogers where the grass is green and the girls are pretty!
It came to my mind too, this line. 😂
@@xtourniquetgirlx Oh won't you place take me hoooome, yeah-haaa
Next this guy's gonna tell me that Kansas city isn't in Kansas.
most of it is Missouri, only a small part is Kansas
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In fact, Kansas City, Missouri STRONGLY identifies as Missouri. Also KC MO is older than Kansas Territory.
Depends on if you mean the Kansas City Missouri side or not. Kansas City Missouri is actually the bigger side because it has lower state taxes or at least did for a long time.
Kansas city KS is the garage of Kansas City MO
What happens in Paradise, stays in Las Vegas
No it stays in Paradise. Las Vegas gets nothing. Bad Mayor!
Matthew Pike what is Lag vegas
Lag Vegas is what you get when you spell Las Vegas but auto correct things you wanted to say Lag. Not Las.
Vegas is overrated!
@@osamabindrinkin40s no u are
The right honorable, the lord mayor of Las Vegas.
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The Right Honourable, The Lord of Unincorporated Cities Of Nevada Under The Las Vegas Area, Mayor of Paradise.
This is one of those things that blows your mind and you have to stop your RUclips binge to think about things for a while.
Actually it doesn't surprise me. I would be surprised if those corporations weren't avoiding taxes.
On that final comment...
Technically correct; the best kind of correct.
Leon Barton arguably.
Hen Barrison You can just ignore any sentence that begins with the word "technically"; it frees up so much time... and makes your life so much more BORING! Getting hung up on technicalities can only be solved by being technically correct!
Leon Barton what are you, a bureaucrat? lol
Jim Gibbs Let's settle this... WITH LIMBO!!! :P
Jim Gibbs No, look at his avatar, he obviously is an bureaucat
I live in Vegas. there are like 6 little mini cities like this one but we all still consider them Vegas. No one here actually cares. Its all Vegas.
ZealousEscape it’s Vegas, North Vegas, and Henderson
ZealousEscape everything else is unofficial
What about winchester? Ive seen that on maps too
@@davidgill3356 Winchester is an unincorporated town of Clark County. Just like the video says the residents pay taxes to the county (Clark). However, the addresses in Winchester says Las Vegas, NV.
You dont care.... official do. They dont pay them taxes
I found where so many references in fallout new Vegas come from
Cesar's entertainment, the old Mormon fort. It all makes sense!
Thanks for the early access!
RedKB Wow. Didn't expect to see you here.
***** NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!
RedKB early access?
Also unexpected to see you HERE.
What a surprise seeing you here.
Rodrigo Castellon Yeah join his mailing list, he randomly selects people to view the video a bit early.
So what's the story behind Las Vegas being okay with Paradise using their city's name in advertising? Or why does Paradise insist on not using it's own name when advertising? Basically: why does this misconception exist?
TheJaredtheJaredlong if you watch the last few seconds after all the outro stuff, he mentions that both are in Las Vegas Valley, so technically Paradise is in Las Vegas, just its the valley, not the city
TheJaredtheJaredlong No one here uses the name "Paradise". You either live in Las Vegas, Summerlin, or Henderson. Just like how the Las Vegas you think of when you see The Strip is technically Paradise, Summerlin is technically Las Vegas; but nobody moves to Summerlin and still wants to use the degrading city name "Las Vegas".
TheJaredtheJaredlong It's not like Las Vegas doesn't benefit from the gazillion tourists that come in the area :)
Phantom Engineer I live in Paradise but just tell people it's Vegas. It's easier.
TheJaredtheJaredlong and basically why isn't it explained in this video? (I found it too short)
I’ve lived in Nevada my whole life and never known this
Wait how??? Almost all of Vegas is unincorporated cities: Paradise, Spring valley, enterprise, Winchester, And sunrise manor.
@@josephl9988 not very obvious on the surface level, its the kinda thing you gotta learn to know
Yeah, same. I was confused of Paradise and Vegas. I didn't know, either. I lived in Vegas for 10 years, so yeah.
@@discordian4669 It's literally shown in maps though? There are street signs that denote which "town" you're in, and every separate "town" has it's own police force. I guess if you aren't local to Vegas it would be easy to miss though.
I live in Las Vegas and I can vouch no one here cares bout this and just calls it Las Vegas. But interesting though
Goku -San I also live in las vegas
me too!!!
Lol we all live in a horrible city.
TheFeelTrain they are newer, thats why. But the whole valley has a horrific air quality
@@TheFeelTrain Also, Spring Valley.
I've lived in Vegas for 19 years and I never knew this lol! I've always wondered why it says paradise on the map.
El Dragon Azul also Winchester’s and spring valley
Nevada itself REBELLED against the Federal government by legalizing gambling, the same way Nevada residents rebelled against the city taxes by moving outside the city limits.
Viva Las Paradise!! 🤣🤣🤣
There is no Federal prohibition on gambling in the USA. It's up to the states to set laws and regulations pertaining to gaming and gambling in their own state.
How significant are the taxes between Las Vegas and Paradise and how much can you save living in paradise?
Actually, lots of places in the west are unincorporated counties. I live in unincorporated-Snohomish County, WA. A nearby city has tried to annex several times unsuccessfully
Yes. And seeing as how the city doesn't provide services to these places, you can call what they (the cities) are doing 'a tax snatch'.
What's the population of Snohomish county? Is it nearly a quarter of a million people in an area the size of Disneyland? No? Shut up.
Adam Weishaupt Population density has nothing to do with it. And besides, I hate highly populated areas
Steven B Las Vegas is a special case because it's dense but still unincorporated. It's not a strange thing for Nowhere, WA to be unincorporated because there aren't enough people for it to matter.
No reason to be disrespectful, and the population is about 750k FYI. She said it's unusual for a county to be unicoperated and I'm pointing out it's really not-there are lots of places.
I WILL NEVER SEE LAS VEGAS THE SAME WAY EVER AGAIN.
64iOS you can say that again
ofc. Cuz u hv never seen las vegas. only paradise
@@ishaanagrawal3575 I think after the shootings paradise might be part of Las Vegas now. You see Las Vegas cops all over now, not county sheriffs
Paradise is las vegas
So is hendersona nd boulder city
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you feel ish for a nuclear winter
EUGHHH That thing happened again where you uploaded this video a WEEK ago but my stupid home feed JUST TOLD ME TODAY.
When will Belarus be uploaded?
Geography Now Israel.
IF YOU DARE
ZsnipeX ZSM its in africa
FlySpleen he will of course, but he still didn't finish the B's
Geography Now hey bro, i love your vids! i live in vegas, what about you?
It gets even more confusing when you realize where the "las vegas" and "unincorporated counties" are, and how it screws with our utilities and licensing. For example, I opened a business ON Sahara Blvd. But when I went to submit my paperwork for the business license, I had to add an addendum to notate if I was on the South side of the street or the North side, because the Northern side of the street- that abuts the West bound half of the road- Is in "Unincorporated Clark County" and thus not subject to any of the city laws, taxes or licenses. However if I was on the Southern side- adjacent to the East Bound half of the road- then my costs would more than quadruple and I would have to obtain about 3 more "licenses and permits". To make things that much more fun, when I lived in one condo, on one side of my street, I had my water through the Las Vegas Valley Water District, whoever on the same street, just the other side of the street, and my water was now through the "City of North Las Vegas".. BTW, The actual City of North Las Vegas is about 15 miles from my house and in no way even adjacent to the particular "Unincorporated municipality" that I live in.
OH! I almost forgot, let's make this a little more complicatedly fun.. Paradise is not the only Unincorporated Place; the majority of the Las Vegas Valley is in one of many "Unincorporated places". In some areas, the entire "Unincorporated Place" is no bigger than the one house it encompasses, and they are sporadic, uneven, and random. I've seen a few areas where two stores in the same strip mall end up in different "Unincorporated/Incorporated" places. In fact, our cops regularly fudge the mile markers where they pull people over, in order to increase the costs of tickets, since they change depending on whichever unincorporated/incorporated place you're in.... O_O
Tenshi Chan
This is why I love this country
Wrong about our cops "fudging" tickets to get more money. Speaking as someone who used to be a police dispatcher in LVMPD. The ticket starts where the crime occurred so, if you ran a red light but it took said cop a block to pull you over and now you crossed from city to county and you're stopped in county, your ticket is reflected for the city, not the county. They often call over the radio to have the dispatcher verify where the city/county line is at. Cops don't care about pulling people over just to give the city more money. They are not sheisty & complicated like that, they are much more simple. They are pulling you over simply because you broke the law. And really, most want to deal with more exciting stuff like robberies in progress, a car stop where the person runs from them, etc. Your average citizen, they're gonna do their job but that's the easy, mundane stuff. I promise you, they don't care about the cost of your ticket or where you pay it to.
And that's why cities should lower taxes and remove unnecessary licensing regulations. High taxes are just plain bad, and licensing is often put in place by the existing members of a trade to prevent new competition from coming into the city.
"The Casinos were rich enough to provide their own [necessary services], notably using their security forces as de facto police"
Ah, yes. *AnCap Time.*
I don't get it :/
and the New York Giants and New York Jets don't actually play in New York
Well, they're playing in the New York metropolitan area.
both teams were tired of being second fiddle to the Yankees and Mets when it came to field useage. When the Jets played at Shea stadium, they couldn't have a home game until the Mets season ended, which was trouble in 1969 and 1973. the Jets didn't get any home games in 1969 until week six, and then played at Shea straight through to week 12. in 1973 they went clear to week 7 on the road. As for the stadium's location, the Meadowlands swamps were basically the only place in the metro area you could build a stadium that big with sufficient parking for 80,000 plus and not get anyone angry at you. When they tried to build a stadium on the west side of Manhattan for the Jets when Giants Stadium's useful life ended, political hell broke lose, which is why the Jets stuck with Giants and share MetLife (Which I still like calling "New Meadowlands" cause it sounds SO much cooler)
And in baseball we have the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Now Anaheim is an incorporated city approximately 30 miles south east of downtown Los Angeles. It's not even in Los Angeles County, it's part of Orange County and is better known as the home of Disneyland. Arte Moreno, the current owner of the Angels had the marketing idea/ego trip that he could make the Angels into a bigger and more lucrative property by associating the team with Los Angeles area even though the Los Angeles Dodgers hold a strong grip on most Los Angeles baseball fans hearts and Orange County fans more or less despise being identified with the Los Angeles. Anaheim is still an official part of the team's name because the Angels home games are played in Angels Stadium, which is owned by the City of Anaheim. So neither the Angels nor Anaheim are part of L.A., but the stupid name; which pretty much all baseball fans in both Los Angeles and Orange Counties think is ridiculous, persists.
...and French toast isn't really French, either. Kill me now.
Kwolfx well Los Angeles isn't actually a city
Patrolling the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Gerald Hopps
Ave, true to Caesar.
Why? I imagine most of the Mojave Desert is nice and quiet. Surely you can gin up a reason to go investigate reports of hooliganism out in the boonies from time to time when you desperately need a quiet day at work.
Shawn HTPC
I feel like you don’t get the reference, or the joke.
DEATH TO THE STORMCLO- wait wrong game.
@Music Account No,Its the name of the desert you're in Fallout:New Vegas
I often wondered why, when I posted something from my hotel room at The Excalibur with location on, it said Paradise. Now I know why! Interesting!
"Well if this makes you think the origin of Paradise was just some kind of city-size tax dodge, *you're right*"
this was a perfect end to the video :)
Wow, I wonder if the people in Paradise/Vega know this.
Ayyyy
***** We do
***** nope
***** Some do. The tricky thing is that their home address still ends in Las Vegas, NV not Paradise, NV so it is conceivable that some don't know.
some oughta
No one commenting that Grey removed all mentions of Audible as this video's sponsor, except the subtitles? (3:17, turn on English subs)
Woah, this was crazy interesting. I've been to Vegas and had no idea!
You mean paradise? Lol
Ali Jardz i live there and i had no idea
You mean Paradise?
MCaddict1996 watch the end of the video ;-)
Dat NguyenThe lol yeah. I should watch the endings from now on lol XD
Huh, I would never have considered the area we think of Las Vegas as Paradise.
"The mob no longer runs anything, it's just these two companies."
Yeah, and those are two completely different things. _Totally_ not the same.
The mob isn't subject to the same level of government oversight as multinational corporations. Caesar's and MGM don't go around torturing and murdering people who don't pay their debts, they just sue their pants off or let the banks sue their pants off for them.
I'm sure their business practices aren't exactly squeaky clean, but let's not pretend like they're anywhere near as dangerous or destructive as the mob.
@@tissuepaper9962 Depends on how you describe dangerous or destructive. For one, having a monopoly on attractions may kill off competition and allows for unchecked control over prices (which could be destructive or dangerous). Or any (legal or illegal) methods that may be used to disincentivize competition.
@@tissuepaper9962 You're adorable.
@@khatharrmalkavian3306 you got an argument or...?
@@introspectiver1787 (anti-competitive business practices) or (anti-competitive business practices + *murder ),* I wonder which I'd rather have in my town.
Jaynestown, known for it's abundance of Fireflies. :D
:)
R.I.P Wash *reaver spear through the chest*
The Dimensions R.I.P Wash, He was a leaf on the wind.
How does a reaver clean his spear?
He puts it through the Wash! :DD
help i'm crying
Last words, "Airmon-ng was better."
Make sure you watch the last 15 seconds. It's important!
You are correct
Me after reading title but before watching video: hmm yes, the floor here isn't made out of floor
Dude, i had the same idea....uncool.
They should have named Paradise, New Vegas.
jeco0357 or just "found vegas"
jeco0357 Just in case you confused it with Paradise, West Virginia. *Ding*
“We can't stop here, this is bat country!"
qoaa "Did you see what god just did to us man?"
or just "la vega", since there's only one of it
I love your videos and just found this one. And a BIG THANK YOU!!!
I grew up in "Las Vegas", actually Paradise Township. As a kid we didn't realize we were different. New York City burrows were strange things that city folk did.
And don't forget, we haven't given in to city "control". Every few years, since I was a kid in the 60s, THEY try to get us to vote for incorporation. We aren't stupid. Vegas as a "City" hasn't grown and inch in decades. I think Henderson and North Las Vegas might be bigger by now. But us in Paradise, Whitney Winchester and Enterprise Townships are still safe from city taxes. Lolololol
I- people live on the strip? I havent been there much but how? And yeah Las Vegas as in the actual city has been growing a lot. Whole new neighborhoods exist and you can pass by new ones being built
@@nmtltlz Paradise has houses, apartments, etc. just like anywhere else. It's not just one street with Casinos.
Now the paradise city song makes sense.
not only is there Paradise but, Summerlin, Henderson, North Las Vegas, West Las Vegas, Sunrise Manor, Spring Valley, Green Valley, and Enterprise but you can just calls us Vegas.
Is Summerlin it’s own thing? I thought it was just am area kinda like the centennial
Yeah I don't remember summerlin being its own city more like a segment
@SAMWEST Summerlin isn't technically a city but there is over 100,000 people living there. Its more of a way for Howard Hughes Co. to make money. It works well, they made about 5 billion alone from summerlin.
U r wrong also the real cities here r Las Vegas North Las Vegas Henderson and Clark county how I know kz I am contractor n those r the olny cities that counts here
As someone who lives in Nevada, I’m just happy you pronounced Nevada correctly
Everybody's gangsta till las Vegas becomes lost Vegas
There’s also the unincorporated “city” of Flamingo near the Vegas Strip
3:10 Grey.....the entirety of The Unites States of America was a country sized tax dodge.
Thank you for the Firefly reference!
That show is amazing...
This clarifies a lot! When you read that Las Vegas has a pop. of over 2M, a functional place that size with things like hospitals, libraries or schools doesn't sound compatible with "The Strip". All of it located in an immediately adjacent community with differing governance makes the whole affair seem more sustainable.
You should do a video about the Magna Carta, it being the 800th anniversary this year
This idea, I like it!!!
R.J. Macready this! CGP Grey
onesimpleclik Not round enough. Let's wait for the 1000th.
Martin Drkoš nah, we'll all be dead by then. 800th is just fine! CGP Grey
Martin Drkoš But... the 8 is roundy and the 0s are roundy too... :)
Hail from Spring Valley, the **Unincorporated Place** West of Paradise (we have Vegas Chinatown and reach almost all the way to the Western edge of town to Summerlin South).
As someone who lives in vegas, i never knew this.
Guns 'N Roses knew what was up lol
This makes Las Vegas Paradise even more mystical.
1:44 "It started with the Mormons.." say no more, it's explained already.
Lmao
Are you still alive
Probably not
Hey! That's Salt Lake City behind your graphic at 0:42!
GenerallySleepy Wow. I didn't notice it, but yep! There's the temple.
GenerallySleepy Wow good eye, now I see why he mentioned the wagons! ahahaha, that was clever xD
***** I wonder why he used it...
Reuben Williams Actually it was the Mormon pioneers. But still I wonder why he bothered to mention mormons at all and then use Salt Lake as the background to a Las Vegas video. Maybe he's hinting at a video about mormons, who knows?
Robert King Because the old mormon fort is just not very recognizable and not much to look at.
Freeside is Paradise.
"The Strip" is Paradise, Freeside is the actual City of Las Vegas, taking it's name from Freemont Street (the one with the crazy video roof thing and the cowboy sign).
I know. I meant it as in Freeside is paradise, while the Strip is corrupt.
WHERE EVERY MAN IS A MAN IN HIS OWN RIGHT!
"THIS HOW WE DO IT IN FREESIDE!"
*blows off leg*
This was very interesting!
Came up on my suggested viewing, and was surprised I never saw this video. Still holds up and could have been a new video that leads into what the city of Las Vegas can do about tourism in wake of the various quarantine measures.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
just an interesting note- while less official unincorporated communities are pretty common in the US (and obv there's Paradise) in the state of Alaska, there is the "Unincorporated Borough," meaning that it is possible to escape both city- and county-level regulations & taxes, as long as you're willing to go to somewhere that's considered the middle of nowhere even by Alaskan standards.
Thank you for that. I wondered why Vegas didn't seem like I imagined...
I was kinda hoping this was an alien pyramid conspiracy video but oh well
I love looking at pictures of -Las Vegas- Paradise and I say in my mind "I saw that building in GTA San Andreas!"
Patrolling the Moj-
Oh wait, wrong Vegas
So if I wanted to go to "Las Vegas", I'd need to go to Paradise?
Nope, if you wanted to go to Last Vegas you'd go to Las Vegas still, but it wouldn't be same as in the photos you've seen in social media.
Also, please watch the last 5 seconds of the video
If you were flying there you would still have to go to Paradise because that's where McCarran International Airport is.
well, u could go to the north vegas airport, (if ur super rich) or the henderson airport (if ur super rich aswell) so really, u hav to go to mcarran international airport (unless ur super rich)
Nevada Mapping eyyyy a nevadan me too
when you live in las vegas but go to school in paradise 🥴🥴
"Oh, won't you please take me home"! 🎸🤘
2:16 Todd Howard confirms Caesar taking New Vegas as canon
*True to Kaisar!*
Ave, true to Caesar!
imagine having slaves
If Paradise is only defined by being not a city, how can it have a name? Can I just randomly choose some square mile of desert and name it "Penny's awesome patch of land?"
Penny Lane Did you not watch the video?
2:50
Luis Gonzalez Can't tell you how sick I am of reading that question in the comments section. You were saying?
Penny Lane
Did you not read my question?... lol
***** So I'd have to ask the county to acknowledge the name for my patch of desert?
Penny Lane In minute 2:50, it is said that the county named or allowed Paradise to name itself.
my guy well actually'd the well actually guys at the end what a legend
When my mum was pregnant with me, she wasn't really I was in my own separate water state 🤣
The hero of Canton, the man we call Jayne
Yay, so it was Firefly reference!
I've lived in North Las Vegas (a seperate City obv) all my life and i've never known the small nuance of Paradise. Ya learn something new every day!
Me after reading the thumbnail:
Well then
2:17 Caesar’s legion foreshadowing
This brings me such happiness. Remember people, taxation is theft!
this makes me want to play fallout new vegas again
You should do a video on the stock market
I don't see why not
Why? Is there something we should know that we don’t already ?
What are you talking about. I was here just for the big smooth black Minecraft beacon.
I also live in an unincorporated area, called Ladera Ranch. Edit: We have police, sewers, and schools but I think all of those are directly from the county, not another city.
FYI to CGP Grey - you can't link this video on facebook, it says it's malicious content.
***** It is flagging him completely. You can't even link to his user page.
xxacidmv Knowledge seems to be a big enemy of Facebook...
***** you cant link scishow anymore as well. I don't know what's going on.
***** . I don't know why Facebook says it's malicious content, but when you 'create content' on RUclips you can `deselect` the setting: Allow Embedding. . So that the videos won't run within the other program. . That may be the source of the problem. .. (And, you can: "Make this video available *only* on monetised platforms.")
***** Have you tried any other links. Every link I try to post to FB today says it's malicious. I think they're having problems.
Thanks for showing that picture of the mushroom cloud visible from vegas. I knew I'd seen that before, somewhere.... but no one believes me!
Pair-a-dice, Time to RollEm?
"Everything that happens within its borders, the actual city of Las Vegas has no control over."
Kinda gives a new meaning to the phrase, "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."
So, all of those times I was looking at old pictures and film of Las Vegas I was looking at a different city. I'm stunned!
1:08 You don't need a city for any of those things, though. You can have school districts and water/sewer districts without cities or towns, as we do in WA. Counties usually provide the policing for those areas.
It’s simpler and more straight forward. New Jersey is the same thing as well. And in the UK and former Commonwealth realms it’s the exact same thing too. Counties provide the policing, and school/water boards are independent from city or town councils
The mob, the corporations, what's the diff?
prolly the level of violence and willingness to break the law.
corperations will usually cheat alot on the edge of "is that really what the law says?" territory as where cooking the books, money laundering and other such obviously illegal practices practiced by the mobsters of old were unique to them. mobsters took a way more aggressive stance on cheating.
Rose Erin good point
I'd rather the mob than a city government.
Corporations don't use guns
Ironically the mob actually took better care of their employees and actually spearheaded the need for racially desegregated work environments because it brought in the bigger bucks. But yeah crime and illicit drug dealing was a downside too 🤣
Wilbur, you’re such a nerd for naming your city right outside Las Nevadas’s borders Paradise. I love it
Neil Gaiman narrates his own books??! Man, he's awesome.
Oh, and the thing about Vegas was interesting too. ;)
1:14 "Jaynestown"
Is that a Firefly reference?