This YouTube Change Broke 3rd Party Clients

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  • Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
  • It's nothing new for RUclips to make changes that break 3rd party clients, or other aspects of the site so it's no surprise that something like that is happening again with bot detection
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  • @BrodieRobertson
    @BrodieRobertson  13 дней назад +143

    I included the definition of A/B test because I knew some would say "but it still works for me" looks like it didn't help much lol

    • @iotkualt
      @iotkualt 13 дней назад +24

      but it still works for me

    • @dedr4m
      @dedr4m 13 дней назад +5

      Well, that's literally the internets in a nut shell:
      You can agree with someone 100% and they'd still try and pick an argument against you.
      I'm probably in category B.... or A... but the one that's not getting the side effects of the test (yet).

    • @Aeroxima
      @Aeroxima 12 дней назад +9

      To be fair, you did ask at 11:18

    • @giusdb
      @giusdb 12 дней назад +2

      ​@@iotkualtFor me it was A/B/A and unfortunately then B.
      New interface (annoying and invasive), the old one returned, and then the new one again.

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 12 дней назад

      Still works for me

  • @GanerRL
    @GanerRL 13 дней назад +341

    i will keep blocking ads out of spite idc how annoying it is

    • @DudeSoWin
      @DudeSoWin 13 дней назад +1

      I like my Advertisements. State Propaganda aka "Researchers" are killing this platform. I hope those Nerds stand in the lava and get probed by Satan.

    • @SkyyySi
      @SkyyySi 13 дней назад +5

      The whole point is that blocking ads will become essentially impossible

    • @Raigekon
      @Raigekon 13 дней назад +30

      @@SkyyySi Never impossible, the worst case scenario is that you get black screen for the length of the ad.

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 13 дней назад

      ​@@SkyyySi it's very easy. Change your IP to a Russian IP, you won't get any ads and could continue using the official client. You do lose background playback though on mobile if you aren't using Rеvаnсеd

    • @SkyyySi
      @SkyyySi 13 дней назад +5

      @@Raigekon That's not really ad blocking anymore at that point

  • @charautreal
    @charautreal 13 дней назад +345

    don't you love how everything online is slowly turning for the worst for the consumer by the day?

    • @excidium_
      @excidium_ 13 дней назад +51

      online and offline, enshittification is the market's final form

    • @IshayuG
      @IshayuG 13 дней назад +20

      Their customer is advertisers, not you. You’re the product. They will treat you just well enough to prevent you from leaving, but otherwise the advertisers get the final say. If you want to be the customer, you need to pay for RUclips.
      I understand people scoff at Premium, but it is the only way. Someone has to pay for this content and the servers, and if you won’t do it, and won’t let the advertisers do it, they’ll try increasingly hard to get rid of you.

    • @Poldovico
      @Poldovico 13 дней назад +28

      @@IshayuG Well, kind of. Paying to "be a customer" doesn't stop them from also making you the product. They're not going to show you ads, for now, which doesn't matter because ads are more scam than legitimate business by this point, but they'll sell your data, use you for AI training, and try to manipulate your behaviour with content suggestion.
      It's like selling dairy cows hay.

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 13 дней назад

      @@excidium_ LATE STAGE CAPITALISM

    • @Henry-sv3wv
      @Henry-sv3wv 13 дней назад

      @@Poldovico
      like in MS windows. spycrap and ads. but they want you to pay for a license, too.

  • @CaraesNaur
    @CaraesNaur 13 дней назад +211

    Two things that all the big ad platforms don't want users to know:
    1. Ad click-through rates are generally about 3%, a particularly successful one can reach 6%.
    2. *This has not changed since the late 1990s.*
    That's right: online advertising and all their entitled faff is supported by a sliver of users. None of the new techniques and technologies developed over the years have improved the effectiveness of ads.
    The main thing advertisers and marketers have learned from the Internet is just how ineffective chosen their trade is. Their response has been to hide that fact and make laughable claims about how being forced to view their parasitic noise "protects users". Which gives us yet another reason to despise ads.

    • @Lampe2020
      @Lampe2020 13 дней назад +32

      WHen there are only a few, non-obnoxious ads I don't really care. Unfortunately RUclips and many other websites have taken it a little too far, so whenever I get even a short ad for something I might otherwise have considered buying it immediaely annoys me and couples that product in my head with that annoyed feeling, actually making the chance I buy the stuff lower.

    • @excidium_
      @excidium_ 13 дней назад +33

      If only the ads were just annoying. RUclips advertisement has become a platform to connect scammers to potential victims

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 13 дней назад +5

      @@excidium_ In theory you can report them.
      Only noticed a difference with the Hate speech ads (RUclips stopped showing them to me after reporting).

    • @salazar1554
      @salazar1554 13 дней назад +14

      It's not actually about getting someone to click through and buy immediately, its about mind-share. The next time you buy that category of product you'll remember the brand, even if unconsciously. Don't make the mistake of thinking advertising doesn't work on you, it will work EVEN BETTER if you think that. It's like not worrying about cyber-security because you have an anti-virus.

    • @nezu_cc
      @nezu_cc 13 дней назад +16

      I think you're missing some content. Click-through rates might seem low, but that's not the main point of advertising. The main point is brand awareness. If you see an ad 50 times, you will be very much aware of that brand, and the next time you walk into a store, chances are you're gonna choose a product from a brand you "know" rather than something you're seeing for the first time.

  • @varietychan
    @varietychan 13 дней назад +156

    What I hate are people who think requiring logins will fix bot problems. Bot problems are from actual accounts, you need actual accounts to comment. It is just something they say to trick people into thinking they're right

    • @MasicoreLord
      @MasicoreLord 13 дней назад +9

      Notice how they seemed to target mostly the third party clients known to block ads? Doubt this is entirely about fighting bots, if it was at all, especially since around the same time they are experimenting w/ server-side ad-injection (meaning it places the ads before your client starts loading the video, or gets the next part of a live-stream if an ad-break is there).

    • @fabricio4794
      @fabricio4794 13 дней назад +1

      Google itself shot this bots around thte comentodrome

    • @FrankHarwald
      @FrankHarwald 12 дней назад +2

      THIS!

    • @DonaldDucksRevenge
      @DonaldDucksRevenge 12 дней назад +2

      Bot logic

    • @Jutastre
      @Jutastre 12 дней назад +1

      Comment bots aren't the only bots. Running some automated downloading script could also be considered a bot.

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie 12 дней назад +13

    Google before: don't be evil
    Google now: be evil.

  • @PASRC
    @PASRC 13 дней назад +53

    Remember, they're doing this for YOU! You need them to break your workflow and restrict their website for YOUR safety! If everything worked as intended "the community" would not be safe.

  • @user-fje4ztx46no86
    @user-fje4ztx46no86 13 дней назад +98

    I will troubleshoot for hours before I watch ads or pay for premium. Fight ads!

  • @pravculear
    @pravculear 13 дней назад +98

    there is a reason the FBI recommends a adblock to use the internet safely and it involves malvertising.

    • @MrPir84free
      @MrPir84free 13 дней назад +5

      So, are you suggesting that eventually Google will pay the FBI to change their stance ? Yeah, I would not put it past them either.

    • @vidal9747
      @vidal9747 13 дней назад +4

      I understand not being responsible for user created content. But advertisement is a different thing. When you are serving the ads on other websites, you stop being the platform and start being the user. So as the user it could be argued that you're responsible for illegal content you put in websites. Therefore, it could be argued that google itself is responsible for every malvertisment campaign that uses their service. If they are not moderating, the government should intervene as platforms are expected to moderate their content. Google is responsible for not moderating enough and should be fined.

    • @flamingscar5263
      @flamingscar5263 13 дней назад

      Yes but youtube only does video ads, the FBI recommends adblocking because many sites will run ads that trick you into clicking them, youtube just shows videos and sometimes you can attach a link, but only verified links unless your a known good advertiser, verified links would be to sites youtube knows is safe, like to the playstore or Apple appstore

    • @EaglexEyeGaming
      @EaglexEyeGaming 12 дней назад

      ​@@flamingscar5263Oh I wonder if Mrbeast really wants to give me 1000$ for free

    • @swagmuffin9000
      @swagmuffin9000 12 дней назад

      @@flamingscar5263youtube did have scam ads tho

  • @stage6fan475
    @stage6fan475 13 дней назад +22

    RUclips feels obligated to fight until everyone watching it experiences as much ad time per hour as cable television. The only part they care about is the ads; they have repeatedly shown they couldn't care less about creators or users.

  • @KStovr
    @KStovr 13 дней назад +48

    I will cold turkey quit watching RUclips in its entirety before I watch ads. I did without before it blew up and I'll do just fine without again if it comes to that.

    • @artos6209
      @artos6209 13 дней назад +6

      The more ads they force down my throat, the less likely I am to buy whatever they are advertising!!!!

    • @RedVRCC
      @RedVRCC 12 дней назад

      @@artos6209 and the more likely I am to try and find an email or phone number and share some strong words with the company.

  • @o0shad0oo
    @o0shad0oo 13 дней назад +30

    Google is being smart in beating on these ad-blocking projects, but they're not being smart in their long-term viability. I only started using ad-blocking because their ad insertions started becoming excessive and rage-inducing. If they succeed in getting rid of ad-blocking this won't reduce my rage at their disruptive ad insertions. If they finally succeed I'll simply stop visiting Yotuube entirely. I can't be alone in this.

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG 13 дней назад +4

      How is getting rid of people using their service for free going to hurt their long term viability? Sounds more like it would help to me. Why do so many people think this matters to them? It'd be like a thief saying 'that convenience store would go out of business if I didn't steal candy bars'

    • @LoremIpsumDolors
      @LoremIpsumDolors 12 дней назад +1

      @@BriBCG Don't interrupt the circlejerking of freeloaders.

    • @MechanicaMenace
      @MechanicaMenace 12 дней назад +11

      ​@@BriBCGthey're pushing away people who were happily viewing ads though. At the same time they made adblocking apps and extensions big news (so people who didn't even know they existed knew they could look for them) they also made ads more intrusive and also allowed more scummy ads. And charging more for Premium than most actual premium streaming services charge proves they don't actually want people signing up to Premium either. If they did they'd knock a third off the price and easily get 4 times more Premium subscribers.

    • @o0shad0oo
      @o0shad0oo 12 дней назад +2

      @@BriBCG Because they're killing their own service by throwing so many ads at their customers, and it doesn't matter whether their choice is to use ad blockers or to walk away entirely, that is a lost customer. It could be they're caught between a rock and a hard place, and that reducing their ad count would throw them in the red but keeping it at this level is driving customers off, and the platform is doomed.

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG 12 дней назад +1

      @@o0shad0oo It has been speculated that a lot of these moves they've been making recently are moves of desperation. I doubt Alphabet would ever can RUclips since that would basically be admitting their advertising business doesn't work, but it's quite possible they're taking a loss on it.

  • @SinclairSound
    @SinclairSound 13 дней назад +80

    As long as revanced continues to work im okay.. when it breaks i won't watch youtube until someone fixes it

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 13 дней назад +7

      Real, I will probably use the half black half white avian creature app

    • @MNbenMN
      @MNbenMN 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@aqua-beryif only it was actually open source... but I still use it occasionally.

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG 13 дней назад +1

      I mean, they'd rather we were gone than blocking ads and not paying for premium.

    • @bryanpedini4497
      @bryanpedini4497 13 дней назад +2

      @SinclairSound does it still work fine for you? I might be in an A/B testing group where every once in a while every single video loads for the first 3/5 second or something and then buffers indefinitely.
      once it happens I either switch to newpipe for a video or two hoping by then it will be resolved, or curse yt for however much time it takes to get revanced in a working state again.
      fuck RUclips

    • @SinclairSound
      @SinclairSound 13 дней назад

      @@bryanpedini4497
      I'm really hands off with it. Every couple of months I have to get a new version of the apk or repatch. Usually reddit tends to be a good resource for me.. things tend to change quick. I wish I could be more of a help, but I wish you luck!

  • @tgheretford
    @tgheretford 12 дней назад +8

    RUclips will eventually become a walled garden, they will ban VPNs, Premium will have advertisements and every monetised video will have Widevine DRM implemented. Calling them now.
    Also "protecting our community" is a funny way of saying "protecting our bottom line".

  • @toonfoxart
    @toonfoxart 13 дней назад +30

    I rather donate to adblockers than pay youtube premium, they already have my data and that is too much

  • @TheExileFox
    @TheExileFox 12 дней назад +5

    RUclips, well Google really, is breaking the TOS of the internet for having too much ads that are in your face.

    • @janzibansi9218
      @janzibansi9218 11 дней назад

      Agree. If your website has a reasonable amount of silent, static banner ads on the side, i will not go out of my way to banish them from my network.
      Just dont interrupt what im doing and force that sht on me, and your product has a chance to reach me.
      The Hub does it better. One skippable 15 second ad on the video, and junk enlargement pill banners on the side, as things should be.

  • @basilcat3111
    @basilcat3111 12 дней назад +6

    Google has been kind of degrading for a few years now. Translate is getting worse(Try and translate into something like Spanish or Japanese and you'll see how bad it is), Gemini is low quality, Google Maps doesn't even update the roads of many locations or know new ones, RUclips is fighting a losing war with adblockers, and Chrome is just adding useless features.
    If this isn't a collapse, i don't know what is.

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper 12 дней назад +6

    They say they're doing it to ensure creators get paid. But creators already have to insert sponsored ads into their videos if they want any money. RUclips's ads aren't for the creators, they're for youtube itself.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 11 дней назад +2

      Absolutely. RUclips is making *Billions* in *Profit*, yet the creators get pennies on the dollar. None of their moves helps anyone but themselves.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 8 дней назад +1

      @@anon_y_mousse
      Screw Tube

  • @BrunodeSouzaLino
    @BrunodeSouzaLino 12 дней назад +3

    RUclips's battle against ad-blocking is an uphill battle they will never win.

  • @TheSolidSnakeOil
    @TheSolidSnakeOil 13 дней назад +35

    Life finds a way.

    • @ohuela
      @ohuela 13 дней назад +1

      nice profile pic

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 13 дней назад +17

    I got to admit, I am paying for Premium in a shared plan but as I am also using weaker phones and older ThinkPads to watch RUclips, third party clients so far were the only viable choice to still enjoy videos in highest possible quality for each device without the whole thing turning into a slideshow.
    That said, I can't wait for fixes for those third party clients.

    • @johanb.7869
      @johanb.7869 12 дней назад

      I use Premium too. I can afford it, so why not.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 8 дней назад

      @@johanb.7869
      I prefer to watch my videos outside the RUclips app, so premium is not an option for me. New Pipe allows me to download the videos and I can watch them on any video player that I want. Once the videos are downloaded I can do what I want with them, so freedom is important to me.

  • @UnderEu
    @UnderEu 13 дней назад +19

    Because this platform official clientes (Web/mobile) become a freak show of instability and annoyances, I decided to migrate to Invidious and then Piped - at first, using someone else's instances but now hosting my very own (privately, for now). As you might imagined, most instances are broken but slowly working around yet another nonsense on YT's side, my own instances... they work most of the time but I can't have a perfectly smooth experience because well... you know why.
    That good-samaritan speech of "We care about the creators", "We want to make the best experience possible", "We do blah blah blah", that died years ago, otherwise they wouldn't fight that hard against the unsh"ttitficator extensions/platforms around and become basically cable TV but 10x worse.
    And yes, I'm still forced to open the official client to make this comment and 🤢

  • @samjiman
    @samjiman 13 дней назад +6

    I would recommend Piped, you can self host it, but there's also a federation of hosts you can use. YT ads are obnoxious, I got sick of getting 1.30min of ads for a 3min video.

  • @nezu_cc
    @nezu_cc 13 дней назад +12

    I'm not sure if Google can do anything in the long run. Cuz like sure, right now it's pretty easy for them to detect it (TLS fingerprinting, lack of tracking data, speeds way too high), but if they keep pushing, developers are eventually gonna make something indistinguishable from the real apps and then google will have to start blocking real users if they want to go any further.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper 13 дней назад +7

      You also have to remember, the more the users are fighting Google, the higher their costs to fight the users are going to be.
      After all, development time spent on this isn't free either.

  • @Alexander_Sannikov
    @Alexander_Sannikov 13 дней назад +6

    If YT ads were not composed entirely of fraudulent garbage, maybe I would have even watched them.

    • @TheExileFox
      @TheExileFox 12 дней назад

      it's funny how even twitter has better ads than google.

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 12 дней назад

      ​@@TheExileFox I was wondering about that, Instagram and twitch. Instagram ads don't feel half as bad or present, twitch only feels bad when the creator goes "eh, I need to make more per ad break, have these countries watch 8 ads a go"

  • @TicoDK
    @TicoDK 12 дней назад +6

    So that's why the videos have breen freezing for a minute or two... I thaught they were just targeting firefox even more.

  • @MeriaDuck
    @MeriaDuck 12 дней назад +3

    Blocking RUclips premium subscribers that use OAuth on third party apps would be the worst they've come up with in this 'battle'. Banning paying loyal customers is rarely good for business.
    Podcast distribution networks seem to include ads in the streams all the time, I do have an opinion about that...

    • @legionofanon
      @legionofanon 4 дня назад

      The podcast thing is killing me. I redownloaded all of rslash when i changed phones and now every episode has the exact same and irritating ads, and they always pop up mid sentence, completely breaking the flow. If i knew how to read the file name structure from my old phone i probably could just copy and paste the majority of the old episodes in, but I'm still stuck with all the new episodes being bloated with ear grape

  • @Burgo361
    @Burgo361 12 дней назад +2

    A/B testing is a scarily effective technique, by the time people realise what's happening it's too late to push back.

  • @Jackpkmn
    @Jackpkmn 12 дней назад +3

    This is what youtube are doing instead of addressing the epidemic of spam bots on the platform. This does absolutely nothing to curb the bots because the bots that actually do damage spamming scam links are signed in anyway.

  • @insu_na
    @insu_na 12 дней назад +5

    I've had RUclips premium for years now and my experience with using the site is still shit.
    It constantly tries to switch my quality to 480p, despite having "Highest quality" set in my settings, playback just randomly stops as if the video was buffering, but the "nerd stats" clearly show that I still have 20-30s in the buffer and a very good connection. Other times my videos actually buffer and the "nerd stats" tell me it's because I have a 56k connection, but as soon as I switch the video resolution to 4K it is immediately connected as gigabit again and the video starts playing again. And all of that is on the official RUclips site... The app works better, but also constantly switches me to 360p

  • @infinitivez
    @infinitivez 13 дней назад +46

    Oh no, I'm bad and violating. How naughty. All because I refuse to allow portions of data to be sent to or viewed on my system.
    Maybe if they made the price of yt premium a little more cost effective, instead of trying to rake in billions, they could get some actual money out of me.

    • @AshnSilvercorp
      @AshnSilvercorp 13 дней назад

      crunchyroll is still half the price of YT premium. And their "features" are stuff they took away from you by you choosing to use their app...

    • @kevinsteinman8967
      @kevinsteinman8967 13 дней назад +14

      Don't worry as soon as they get enough suckers for premium the ad's will roll on full force so you get to pay twice. Points to cable that used to be ad free as you paid for ad free content in the 70's and now you get to pay for the cable with ad's and the cable companies are double dipping with the ad revenue of ad space and the cable customers paying for the viewing of the ad's and cable tv.

    • @DissyFanart
      @DissyFanart 13 дней назад +3

      i'm probably a bit of an outlier but $14 for 260 hours of content is a pretty good deal. if i paid $14 for a game and got 260 hours of fun out of it i'd be ecstatic. thats my average hours per month over the last year since i started paying for premium

    • @kevinsteinman8967
      @kevinsteinman8967 13 дней назад +5

      @@DissyFanart I would have to say you're an outlier as I could not stand to watch RUclips for that amount of time spread out over a month. If it was 7 dollars or less I would probably spring for the little content that I do view of what I subscribe to. Movies and such I view on other platforms with 90 percent less ad's as I really didn't mind the few ad's here and there but now it's out of control on youtube with mostly scams and you know it's.

    • @infinitivez
      @infinitivez 13 дней назад +2

      @@DissyFanart You're still getting sponsored ads by creators. You spend 8 hours a day watching youtube?Or do you just have it on in the background?
      Also, I have a disability where I cannot stand repetition. It becomes overly distracting to the point I'm stuck repeating and having nightmares about repetitive content. I'm made to pay more every damn time someone wants to stick ads on something. And for what? So they can't torture me?
      It's worth half that, or I won't buy it. Either that or fix the system so creators don't have to take sponsorships, shill their Patreon and complain about how RUclips demonetizes their content at a drop of a pin, with NO accountability or support dept.
      There's ways I can justify that price, but RUclips meets, NONE OF THEM.

  • @pfifo_fast
    @pfifo_fast 12 дней назад +5

    adblocking is a service issue

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 12 дней назад +2

    Also the annoying odd occasion of a screen saying to enable DRM, which a reload normally will fix.

  • @ltxr9973
    @ltxr9973 12 дней назад +3

    7:10 I think this is more or less the future of scraping - headless, remote controlled browser engines. Essentially something similar to what automated end-to-end testing framework like Selenium do.

  • @laurentitolledo1838
    @laurentitolledo1838 13 дней назад +5

    what happens to companies with big-shot powerful investors, numerous advertisers...with only few customers...?

  • @timothyt.82
    @timothyt.82 13 дней назад +8

    There is going to be a day where a company oversteps too far and the consumers just run from them.

    • @miriamkapeller6754
      @miriamkapeller6754 12 дней назад

      Companies have been gradually overstepping for the last 15 years... nothing happened. The things that would have started a riot 15 years ago are just taken for granted. People consider it normal that they have no control over the things they use, they consider it normal that the terms can change at any time and espionage is simply called data collection these days.
      And it's not going to change, since the companies have reached their goal and people are just addicted to Instagram, RUclips, etc., especially the younger people. They wouldn't even know what to do with their lives if you take it away from them.

  • @sevenredundent7256
    @sevenredundent7256 13 дней назад +5

    yt homepage appears empty when im not logged in at work

  • @NJ-wb1cz
    @NJ-wb1cz 13 дней назад +6

    The most reliable way is to change your IP to a Russian one via VPN. That's it, you won't get ads anywhere regardless the client. You can still keep all the content settings like language so it doesn't affect anything else

  • @janzibansi9218
    @janzibansi9218 11 дней назад +2

    I rather have silence and a blank screen for a minute than watch 30 seconds of ads.

  • @ltxr9973
    @ltxr9973 13 дней назад +2

    I also had a weird fever dream where they were rolling out a change that puts the comments on the side where the related videos should be.

    • @willdutt
      @willdutt 13 дней назад +3

      That’s real and it ducks balls

    • @user-kr6ih2gz5l
      @user-kr6ih2gz5l 12 дней назад

      I also had a weird fever dream where they would block users from watching anything on YT unless they log in... whoops! It's likely becoming a reality soon than you thought!
      What's next? Detecting and automatically banning accounts logged to 3rd party apps?
      Delivering a cease & desist letter to you?
      Sending the FBI right up to your door?
      Don't think big corporations wouldn't do that.

    • @tgheretford
      @tgheretford 12 дней назад +3

      I wouldn't be surprised in order to "protect the community" if they made commenting a Premium only function in the future.

  • @keksmlg
    @keksmlg 12 дней назад +2

    The day I can't watch youtube without youtube ads, i will stop watching youtube.

  • @krunkle5136
    @krunkle5136 12 дней назад +3

    A platform that doesn't allow archiving is actively hostile to its users and pushing the idea that their content really doesn't have long term value.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 11 дней назад +2

      Very much this. This is why they push newer videos so much and ignore anything past a certain date. Just think about all of the 360p video from 10 years ago that never gets recommended yet would take up less bandwidth and therefore be cheaper to serve as well as be useful such as older repair videos.

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump 10 дней назад

      @@anon_y_mousse search filter before date 2017
      is a must if you actually want to find things.

  • @MSThalamus-gj9oi
    @MSThalamus-gj9oi 12 дней назад +3

    If RUclips Premium were $3/mo, I might consider it. But it isn't.

  • @anthonywalker6268
    @anthonywalker6268 13 дней назад +59

    Peertube is looking pretty good right now.

    • @moussaadem7933
      @moussaadem7933 13 дней назад +12

      LBRY is a bigger platform

    • @StarlordStavanger
      @StarlordStavanger 13 дней назад +6

      yeah no thanks none of my creators are there, hard passsssssssss

    • @zvpunry1971
      @zvpunry1971 13 дней назад +6

      @@StarlordStavanger This channel is also there. I actually watch it there and come here to add the like and comments. ;)

    • @mega_gamer93
      @mega_gamer93 12 дней назад

      @@zvpunry1971 Brodie is on peertube?

    • @mritunjaymusale
      @mritunjaymusale 12 дней назад +1

      ​@@StarlordStavanger if your favourite creator has anything to do with Linux they probably are on peer tube instance, you just don't know it yet

  • @supernenechi
    @supernenechi 12 дней назад +3

    This is too bad if this goes through and becomes harder and harder to fix. I run tube-archivist so I can backup videos I want to preserve. I have made dozens of playlists on my account with older content that might be deleted some day and thus vanish from the internet.

  • @ags
    @ags 13 дней назад +7

    I still get ads in-stream with RUclips Premium. Something doesn't add up.

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 13 дней назад +7

      Refund or charge back RUclips premium. You've been scammed

    • @avisprimey
      @avisprimey 13 дней назад +15

      Give it a year or so, and all Premium subscribers will still see ads. Place your bets

    • @tgheretford
      @tgheretford 12 дней назад

      @@avisprimey It's inevitable. Every other streaming service is doing it, so will RUclips. All the money is not enough money.

  • @_sneer_
    @_sneer_ 13 дней назад +4

    I haven’t seen a full ad on YT in years. Normally, only when I want to comment on a video I have to open actual YT and for about a second the ad plays before I hit pause. Other than that I watch YT on my private server absolutely ad free for free. Still works perfectly. I have 99.999% ad free Internet experience otherwise. It is possible and not hard or expensive to set up.

    • @_sneer_
      @_sneer_ 12 дней назад

      I should add that ad and telemetrics traffic increased from about 15% to >65% in about 2 years. Yes, that's right. At least two-thirds of DNS traffic is to spies and peddlers. This is ridiculous.

  • @swagmuffin9000
    @swagmuffin9000 12 дней назад +1

    One thing that works, in case you don't know how to block ads, watch videos by hovering your mouse over a tn, or scroll on your phone. Don't click the link/th, unmute it and watch. No ads, ever.

  • @hatyyy
    @hatyyy 13 дней назад +8

    I feel like this will work, for about 3 hours until ublock origin works again

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG 12 дней назад

      Nope, if you want a real parallel of what it will be like it'll be comparable to Denuvo. It's not impossible to crack, but it won't be instant anymore and it won't work 100% of the time.

  • @Sparky_Chipmunk
    @Sparky_Chipmunk 13 дней назад +4

    I could watch other things and totally forget about youtube if they continue to get scummy like this.

  • @mechrono9555
    @mechrono9555 13 дней назад +4

    Datahoarders I think these are signs of the end times

  • @Malik-101
    @Malik-101 13 дней назад +5

    Google & RUclips is going to lose this war :D Youtue hired some developers but everyone in on ublock origin side

  • @Kimera_Alternate_Realities
    @Kimera_Alternate_Realities 12 дней назад +3

    "What needs to change?"
    Stop using youtube.

  • @NPzed
    @NPzed 12 дней назад +1

    Its not only 3rd party clients. . . .first party direct to YT website via a web browser while not signed in is also blocking any form of play back with the "must be signed in to protect against bots." Jumping to different IPs will trigger different results and clear up the prompt (e.g. gaining access to different A/B groups).

  • @sprinklednights
    @sprinklednights 12 дней назад +1

    Rip to all of those RUclips converter apps.

  • @Aeroxima
    @Aeroxima 12 дней назад +2

    This thing people keep saying about companies having to pursue endlessly increasing profits, is that true? Because that seems to be a major driving force for these things if so.
    No matter how much money they made, they'd still be trying to squeeze out more. Just having a constant, stable inflow of money (with everything paying for itself, employees paid, and profits had) wouldn't be enough for them.

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG 12 дней назад

      If RUclips was fulfilling the 'endless increasing profits' fantasy Alphabet stockholders have they most likely wouldn't be hiding it's profit figures.

  • @MeriaDuck
    @MeriaDuck 12 дней назад +2

    For archiving/downloading without downloading; a capture card / obs would work. But only in real time.

  • @AndersonPEM
    @AndersonPEM 12 дней назад +2

    Me on RUclips revanced: well, okay.

  • @schemage2210
    @schemage2210 13 дней назад +15

    RUclips is kinda like Nintendo, STOP SCREWING AROUND WITH 3RD PARTY APPS!!! IT ISN"T GOING TO END WELL!!!

    • @richmountain1128
      @richmountain1128 13 дней назад +1

      I'm gonna say RUclips is worse.

    • @schemage2210
      @schemage2210 12 дней назад

      @@richmountain1128 Agreed. Nintendo only comes after you if you attempt to pirate their games. Google will come after you no matter what you do.

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 13 дней назад +1

    The other day, my iTubeGo software stopped downloading videos in the middle of a playlist download. That's probably what did it.

  • @autistadolinux5336
    @autistadolinux5336 13 дней назад +31

    Well, youtube is now unusable. Please, use LBRY or something.

    • @mega_gamer93
      @mega_gamer93 13 дней назад +15

      He is already on odyssey

    • @UnderEu
      @UnderEu 13 дней назад +2

      What about every other channel that prefer being hostage of this platform?

    • @IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIl
      @IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIl 13 дней назад +1

      LBRY is gone kiddo

    • @miavelvet
      @miavelvet 13 дней назад +3

      @@mega_gamer93 but i've heard odysee dropped lbry recently

    • @mega_gamer93
      @mega_gamer93 12 дней назад

      @@miavelvet Oh, I don't keep up with odysssey/LBRY news so I didn't know this happened

  • @felixfourcolor
    @felixfourcolor 13 дней назад +187

    I have yt premium, everything is smooth for me. _(This comment is sponsored by RUclips.)_

    • @salazar1554
      @salazar1554 13 дней назад +18

      As someone with YT premium, I've experienced some stuttering and weird loading screens on a fast, stable connection that make me think I'm being penalised for my adblock anyway, that or a non-chromium browser. I can't be hundred-percent sure mind you but I have my suspicions.

    • @StaceyAyodele
      @StaceyAyodele 13 дней назад

      I started using RUclips Premium because I got tired of the third-party apps constantly stopping working. I'm not gonna constantly go back and forth with 3rd-party clients to watch RUclips.

    • @xrafter
      @xrafter 13 дней назад

      ​@salazar1554
      I believe its youtube. Last week they released a buggy update for their app in mobile that removed titles of videos in watch later and other lists.

    • @DissyFanart
      @DissyFanart 13 дней назад

      @@salazar1554 I also have premium and im bummed out that these non premium adblocking leeches are gonna ruin third party clients for those of us who actually pay for the product

    • @samjiman
      @samjiman 13 дней назад +4

      Premium is okay, but £12 pm in UK is a little steep I feel. It it was £5 pm I'd probably have it.

  • @JodyBruchon
    @JodyBruchon 12 дней назад +4

    I archive 370 channels. Sounds like it's time to post some gigatorrents.

    • @krunkle5136
      @krunkle5136 12 дней назад +1

      Fucking Chad.

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump 10 дней назад

      I’ve been waiting for this idea to take form.. we’re gonna have curators of content soon.

  • @MonochromeWench
    @MonochromeWench 12 дней назад +2

    The third party apps not showing ads thing is a case of RUclips creating rules that it makes impossible for third party apps to even show ads. RUclips will not allow third party apps to use the correct API keys that will allow ads to show. So third party apps have no choice. They cannot show ads because youtube doesn't allow it, and then youtube uses no ads as a reason to block these third party apps.

  • @philosoaper
    @philosoaper 13 дней назад +1

    that I'm still on IRC is probably an indication that I'm one of those that will hang on until the but end, and beyond

  • @igordasunddas3377
    @igordasunddas3377 10 дней назад

    I'll always find ways. Worst case I won't watch YT altogether.
    I have a LG C2 TV and it gas a YT client, but I've never used it - until I could jailbreak it and install a client with an ad blocker. It's then that YT became usable.

  • @mskiptr
    @mskiptr 13 дней назад +10

    Could we crowd-source YT video downloads though? Like, if a few accounts download a video and all the copies match, they could share that with everyone else the torrent way.

    • @cediviannareeda4305
      @cediviannareeda4305 13 дней назад +1

      seconded, I'm thinking about downloading videos myself, when I have that set up, I'd be happy to take requests and share the videos, or contribute to a cause doing so

    • @josephlh1690
      @josephlh1690 12 дней назад +1

      I would strongly recommend you not do that. It's one thing to download videos, all hell will break loose if you start going and redistributing copyrighted content. If your going to download videos, only keep the stuff to yourself. The last thing we want is an internet archive 2.0 situation where every possible way to download a video gets nuked in court. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

    • @legionofanon
      @legionofanon 4 дня назад

      ​@@josephlh1690if it can be seen on screen, it can be recorded. The only way to block making a copy of a video is too not let ANYONE see the video. The entire video industry would have to shutdown overnight forever to stop bootlegs completely

  • @breadmoth6443
    @breadmoth6443 12 дней назад +3

    "we offer an ad-free experience such as youtube-premium" --- yea and how long until subscribers of that service get pelted with ads?

  • @locatemarbles
    @locatemarbles 11 дней назад +1

    If I'm forced to login in order to watch a video, I won't use the service anymore. I only ever login to comment, otherwise always logout.

  • @szaszm_
    @szaszm_ 13 дней назад +13

    But they sad 3rd party apps are only bad if you're circumventing ads, right? I hope they leave yt-dlp usable with a premium subscription, e.g. by passing a session cookie.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 13 дней назад +11

      No they've been banning people who passed their session cookie. Because when you do that, they know your account and they ban your account.

    • @b0t123
      @b0t123 13 дней назад +5

      @@thewhitefalcon8539 They also send a intercontinental ballistic missile to your house

    • @alex84632
      @alex84632 13 дней назад +3

      They don’t want you downloading videos at all unless it’s through their DRM-protected app.

    • @MasicoreLord
      @MasicoreLord 13 дней назад

      @@alex84632 makes sense, as if you download it through a third-party method, it's drm-free, so they can't break your ability to play it back if your premium expires or gets cancelled/revoked

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump 10 дней назад

      @@alex84632((of which, youll never see a plain, standard format file.))

  • @75hilmar
    @75hilmar 7 дней назад

    Interesting that none reported about this earlier. I have premium but I was hoping that at least they could introduce a method to change the download directory to external, so that we can conveniently use our upgraded micro sd card to store material for offline use...

  • @Artoooooor
    @Artoooooor 12 дней назад +1

    TBH - I am surprised they started now, not before.

  • @lorenzo42p
    @lorenzo42p 12 дней назад +1

    I've never had a sponsor block extension, but I installed one now just because youtube keeps pushing and pushing. fuck right off, I'm not watching ads.

  • @WilliamShinal
    @WilliamShinal 7 дней назад

    Inconvience and bother be damned! I had to cheat in order to watch RUclips without ads by making it think I was on an old iPad as a result of the cookie-based 3 strike block.

  • @Jad3D3v
    @Jad3D3v 13 дней назад +5

    As much as it will be different and very new to me, I will start my content creation journey on a different video sharing platform. I'll see where Odysee takes me over time, see ya there!

  • @hoardingapples7083
    @hoardingapples7083 12 дней назад +1

    I will do anything in my power to block ads

  • @CobaltSpace
    @CobaltSpace 13 дней назад +1

    If they go through with this, it’s going to break VRChat video players.

  • @zhuraitsuki
    @zhuraitsuki 13 дней назад

    Welp, was going need to grab more stuff for my navidrome instance (did not get time to grab+sort+tag most of the new songs so I set it up with sort of an older version from about 2 years ago), guess I need to do that sooner rather than later.

  • @ehotblch9602
    @ehotblch9602 13 дней назад +2

    Le classique “This is informative and unfortunate” moment.
    I used to pay for yt premium but it’s no longer available in Russia and third party apps just provide better UX.
    Hope the solution will be found out soon.

  • @chevylization
    @chevylization 12 дней назад +1

    F-YT, there is Nebula and Odysee. So go ahead, ban my account..

  • @csd4ni3l
    @csd4ni3l 12 дней назад +1

    I have watched the video on invidious, now commenting from my youtube account. I have no problems with ads, if they aren't too invasive and not so long. I have problem with youtube's trackers. I have adblocking extensions, fingerprinting blocking from librewolf and more. Because of this, a youtube video page literally takes 30 seconds to load and then constantly uses cpu power, because my ad blocks have to block all the trackers.

  • @bvd_vlvd
    @bvd_vlvd 12 дней назад +1

    So THAT'S why Parabolic doesn't work half the time!

  • @thatoneguy385
    @thatoneguy385 13 дней назад

    You were also able to pass Authentication cookies (exporting cookies to a file from your browser, then adding that file to yt-dlp) to yt-dlp for a couple of years now, however until now this was pretty much only needed to access private playlists or videos.

    • @MasicoreLord
      @MasicoreLord 13 дней назад

      of course not a smart idea to do that w/ your personal google account, as instead of flagging your ip to enforce sign-in, they could ban you, but seems it'd take more for them to decide that, as the limits are loser for signed in users [like there's a quota that once crossed you can no longer load any videos on that account until it resets].

  • @davidmuriithi1809
    @davidmuriithi1809 13 дней назад +1

    *Laughing in the corner watching through Revanced.

  • @user-vm9mu5ul1h
    @user-vm9mu5ul1h 12 дней назад +1

    We need an alternative to RUclips

  • @Spartan322
    @Spartan322 13 дней назад +9

    I intend to keep costing em as much money as possible for as long as possible and then leave.

  • @kongoubongo1114
    @kongoubongo1114 12 дней назад

    Do not give up!
    Work your PC like a steam locomotive if you have to!

  • @dreamcat4
    @dreamcat4 12 дней назад

    thanks brodie for another excellent video... yes indeed these shenanigins has been going on for quite a while now, perhaps several years of api abuse. and yes - am not very happy about this nonsense

  • @Astravall
    @Astravall 12 дней назад +2

    I find it annoying that sometimes RUclips breaks on Firefox but seems to work fine on chrome based browsers. It takes a while to resolve but i don't know if it is Firefox adopting or RUclips changing back. I have a feeling this is intentional to drive users away from other browsers.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 11 дней назад +1

      It is.

    • @mfThump
      @mfThump 10 дней назад

      set your useragent string lmao even mobile IDs work 😂😂
      its not just a YT thing, some sites are designed in such a quality way that a spoofed client ID magically makes it work as intended.

    • @Astravall
      @Astravall 10 дней назад +1

      @@mfThump I don't know if it helps to disguise as Chrome as websites might get the impression there is only Chrome out there and therefore might be tempted to optimize for chrome alone.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 10 дней назад

      @@Astravall They already do. If you haven't realized it by now, there is a systematic attack on anything that attempts to be free, as in freedom. They are actively working to prevent user choice so that they can lock everyone in and use them like batteries, à la the Matrix.

  • @acrodrigues1
    @acrodrigues1 12 дней назад

    You just got a new Odysee subscriver! Keep on .... Odysee!

  • @NorthernChimp
    @NorthernChimp 10 дней назад

    RUclips did something good this day :
    Spamming me with Brodie's videos as silent recommendations. I spent more time with this bro today than I had in a long time 😃
    (It didn't do it with this video though.)

  • @vilijanac
    @vilijanac 12 дней назад +1

    I think it is fair if pay Premium Service, but must lower the price.
    Stream injections is not on. as RUclips is not paying for the video production.
    Are some are very expensive and time consuming.
    Messing with some creators videos is not on.

  • @conceptrat
    @conceptrat 2 дня назад

    Strangely i just started experiencing buffering at around 1:40 into every RUclips video i watch on my older tablet. I'm using the latest legitimate RUclips app. So they are fecking up the real users too. Andy I'm signed in. So feck them!

  • @MisterZig0
    @MisterZig0 12 дней назад

    When I saw the error on Piped I thought perhaps Piped was having issues with bots but then I realized why people use Piped and realized they would not require a login…

  • @beyondcatastrophe_
    @beyondcatastrophe_ 12 дней назад

    Funnily enough, all invidious instances I use have this problem, but Piped (the most popular instance I think) doesn't, despite the issue mentioned in the video, so I went back to that

  • @patryn36
    @patryn36 13 дней назад +2

    The thrid party app i make use off still functions at this point as it did before

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 13 дней назад +3

      Until it doesn't

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 13 дней назад

      ​@@thewhitefalcon8539key words being "at this point"

  • @fluentmoheshwar
    @fluentmoheshwar 12 дней назад

    I faced that issue on several invadious instances

  • @aldob5681
    @aldob5681 11 дней назад

    so i can skip without resorting to an adblocker like in the videotape era

  • @samwilde8311
    @samwilde8311 12 дней назад

    This has a fairly simple solution I think. Each client just has youtube accounts and all thier video playback just funnels through that account. Maybe a whole fleet of accounts for redundancy?

  • @varhar3296
    @varhar3296 12 дней назад

    I use yt premium + revanced so no issues here, but these changes still affect me, since the app focus is not on additions like return yt dislike, sponsorblock, Development stops when its time to fix adblocking, and yt will not play on old versions regardless of paying.