@ShiniOokami I actually had the same idea, but it was only worth it if u had a rly good pre negative curve. Otherwise, you would just redraw your hand. Adam Warlock was always just better, esp bc it could be upgraded by Negative. I imagine the same would be true now, even with negative surfer
card draw is kinda bad fr negative tho, domino is better than crystal tbh, btw they really need to rework quicksilver he should be like an extra draw than the draw@@ShiniOokami
I'm not a big fan of Killmonger in Surfer decks where you're planning to have priority on Turn 6, and you don't have space for a Nova. With Ronan coming down on 5, that's often the case, which means Killmonger is less likely to hit a late Kitty Pryde, Deadpool, etc., and lacks the proactive power of Polaris on earlier turns.
@@RegisKillbin I agree having priority will be more common in this deck list. But Killmonger can be a win condition by himself, where Polaris is rarely a win condition. If a game is looking like Killmonger is a win condition then you can throw priority by not playing out Ronin. I like Polaris in Surfer decks but you have enough power with Max, Ronin, Mystique, & Surfer.
Hey, I was your last match. I didn't have anything in hand to beat you mid and right. I think it was Legion, Shang, Enchantress, Armor. I was going to leave turn 6 but then saw your name and was like "OMG ITS REGIS" and decided to stay in. XD Didn't expect to go against you. Love the content
OF COURSE. jeff has to be in this deck. A DECK which increases the opponent hand or stops them from drawing cards. JEFF is a good choice. now Jeff and iron lad are in decks just because
36:30 bro i was screaming at the screen when you put 2 cards in the valley of the dead cuz i knew u gonna get clogged up due to lamentis-13 lmao! now you know... (:
What is the reason for playing the deck with all base cards and no variants? Is it just to make it more fair to viewers that cant get a certain variant?
Ok, this explains it. I literally just played against a mold, crystal, and maximus surfer deck and thought the opponent was crazy but they just didn't get to play Ronan I guess. I still won with my negative deck though 🙌🏾
She's definitely more usable now, but I think she's still subpar. Every deck wants to draw cards. She draws card for your opponent, and while you spend that turn playing her, your opponent spends it building their board. Unless your final combo ends up being bigger than theirs, they kinda won the trade in that scenario. As comparison, Wave does almost the same thing in concept, but having more higher cost cards in your deck means Wave has more options to have that advantage after you spend the turn playing wave. You opponent may not have their big card in their hand, especially when you see their deck as having mostly smaller cost cards. Also, Wave has the added benefit of limiting cards played in the next turn to one, which can be used to your advantage. For Crystal, there isnt any other benefit other than drawing a card, and giving that draw to your opponent too, without any after effect we can take advantage of.
I run Baron, but I often swap in Armor to protect Ronan. Shang-Chi is more common than enchantress imo, and armor can screw with destroy decks quite nicely
When changing a 4 drop to 3 drop and then reducing their power is a nerf Crystal is 3/4 because of zabu but now its 3/3 whichis more weaker same with shanna who is 3/4 turned to 3/2 Yes they work now with surfer but who tf will run shanna and crystal on surfer
Think he said it's cuz of streaming and video he just feels it personally makes his videos more digestible and easier to understand at a glance using base variants.
Still dont get it why change crystal and make her more worse he works very well with hela Invi girl on 2 Magik on 3 Crystal on 4 Modok on 5 Hela on 6 Jubs on 7 And you played all of your card now this deck is 1 power less because they nerf crystal
I actually used Crystal back when she did the shuffling effect. It was pretty good with pre nerf Lockjaw, if you needed a hand reset.
Lackwjaw 4 pusi
@ShiniOokami I actually had the same idea, but it was only worth it if u had a rly good pre negative curve. Otherwise, you would just redraw your hand. Adam Warlock was always just better, esp bc it could be upgraded by Negative. I imagine the same would be true now, even with negative surfer
card draw is kinda bad fr negative tho, domino is better than crystal tbh, btw they really need to rework quicksilver he should be like an extra draw than the draw@@ShiniOokami
i respect that but as a reshuffle hater i hope you understand why im happy about the change.
I love coming home after a hard days work and just using Crystal and chilling out!
🤔
Same 🎉
teach me how to chill on crystal plz
@@spac3waxLmao
Hold up, what type of crystals?
This deck is fantastic Regis, and for you guys who don't heve jeff, try forge on his place to buff brood
Ooooh good shout!
Our if you are brave Baron Mordo!
I modified a bit the list and even if I have Jeff I'm running Invisible Woman instead that I think it's just better here.
Damn we had the same idea. That just confirmed it for me
Problem is if they make her too good then everyone will be addicted to using Crystal.
ahhhaaa i get ittt
So dev make destroy deck too good?
Crystal: Little. Yellow. Different. Thanks for the fun deck, I guess I’ll bite the bullet and dump 6,000 tokens on Jeff. T^T
Drop Polaris, Add Killmonger. Thanks for this build! It’s a ton of fun!
I'm not a big fan of Killmonger in Surfer decks where you're planning to have priority on Turn 6, and you don't have space for a Nova. With Ronan coming down on 5, that's often the case, which means Killmonger is less likely to hit a late Kitty Pryde, Deadpool, etc., and lacks the proactive power of Polaris on earlier turns.
@@RegisKillbin I agree having priority will be more common in this deck list. But Killmonger can be a win condition by himself, where Polaris is rarely a win condition. If a game is looking like Killmonger is a win condition then you can throw priority by not playing out Ronin. I like Polaris in Surfer decks but you have enough power with Max, Ronin, Mystique, & Surfer.
Day 2 of asking for Elektra 1/2
Still too weak
no, she isn't good yet. lol
Marvel snap devs when a card isnt good "lets just make them 3 cost so people can play it with Surfer"
Marvel snap devs when a 5 cost card isn’t good: let’s just make it 4 cost so people play it with zabu
Hey, I was your last match. I didn't have anything in hand to beat you mid and right. I think it was Legion, Shang, Enchantress, Armor. I was going to leave turn 6 but then saw your name and was like "OMG ITS REGIS" and decided to stay in. XD Didn't expect to go against you. Love the content
Appreciate the help with content, haha. Thank you!
OF COURSE. jeff has to be in this deck. A DECK which increases the opponent hand or stops them from drawing cards. JEFF is a good choice. now Jeff and iron lad are in decks just because
To be fair Jeff could help win a Storm lane. But I understand what you’re getting at…
I said the same thing.. kinda confused why Jeff in here
all these buffs to silver surfer decks and he is still the ONLY series 3 card i dont have 😭
that turn 1 ebony maw is just bizzare man
Last turn of this video you could've moved Jeff right then surfer left lol.
How am I getting Surfer into Flooded?
@@RegisKillbin oh yeahhhh.. Damn I'm silly. My bad! I'm still happy you won it.
13:51 the real question is why isa destroy deck running armor lmao
36:30 bro i was screaming at the screen when you put 2 cards in the valley of the dead cuz i knew u gonna get clogged up due to lamentis-13 lmao! now you know... (:
Honestly crystal should be a 1 cost 2 power card in my opinion. because it also helps the opponent.
It will be a card that every deck have at that point, if we keep it 3/3 not all decks can afford it
Instead of Jeff, Use Invisible Woman.... It's hilarious.
What is the reason for playing the deck with all base cards and no variants?
Is it just to make it more fair to viewers that cant get a certain variant?
I’ve had this deck made in mind for 2 months but idk how to make it function right. Every game I win is without ronin. And every loss is with him 😅
The card you need appears at the end, not during the game but the part that gets the 4 booster points. Like F*ck you RNG
Another deck I cant make because of that stupid little shark. I cant believe he isnt series 4 yet
Is this deck worth playing in conquest? Someone let me know
You should've named this deck "Junk Surfer" lol
I love Crystal in negative surfer. Helps you find negative early, or helps you draw more negatived cards. It felt very good to me.
deck looks fun, funny this is probably your most serious deck of the past couple weeks haha
18:24 ”winning without winning is so cool when you beat nexus without winning” 🤨
Regis can you play a hand buff deck
Where’s Shauna crystal dazzler?
Ok, this explains it. I literally just played against a mold, crystal, and maximus surfer deck and thought the opponent was crazy but they just didn't get to play Ronan I guess. I still won with my negative deck though 🙌🏾
Is there a alternative to Jeff?
She's definitely more usable now, but I think she's still subpar. Every deck wants to draw cards. She draws card for your opponent, and while you spend that turn playing her, your opponent spends it building their board. Unless your final combo ends up being bigger than theirs, they kinda won the trade in that scenario. As comparison, Wave does almost the same thing in concept, but having more higher cost cards in your deck means Wave has more options to have that advantage after you spend the turn playing wave. You opponent may not have their big card in their hand, especially when you see their deck as having mostly smaller cost cards. Also, Wave has the added benefit of limiting cards played in the next turn to one, which can be used to your advantage. For Crystal, there isnt any other benefit other than drawing a card, and giving that draw to your opponent too, without any after effect we can take advantage of.
Crystal can also be used in a Hela deck, if played before Modok and Hela go off she gives an extra card in your hand to be discarded
How about a revamp like afflict -1 on 2 random opponent cards on their hand and +2 to one card in your hand
Just played against someone using this list, closed Snap, and saw this video on my feed.
I only play Ronan decks. This is literally my JAM
LFG!!!
Finally a use for my creepy-eyed Dan Hipp Crystal!
Tried this deck with mordo in place of Jeff. Works pretty good
Any replacements for mastermold
im using crystal in my surfer negative deck is pretty good
RIP not having Jeff is the worst.
Commit to ronin with Black Widow/Baron? Or run with the new Spidey?
I run Baron, but I often swap in Armor to protect Ronan. Shang-Chi is more common than enchantress imo, and armor can screw with destroy decks quite nicely
Would Baron Mordo be a good replacement for Jeff?
I like the card draw for my tribunal deck
my girl crystal pulling cerebro for me every time
Now they need to buff dazzler lol
Ronan is my fave card to play.
Finally.
Snap Mill.
Wait.. this is not the Crystal Buff i was looking for
Glenn all but confirmed they won't make any "draw a card" cards any time soon, so no, Crystal won't stop giving your opponent a card too :)
Need widow and the baron for the real big Ronan lol
widow does not help ronan (only if played last turn, which makes her just as a simple 2/3 with no aditional effect)
When changing a 4 drop to 3 drop and then reducing their power is a nerf
Crystal is 3/4 because of zabu but now its 3/3 whichis more weaker same with shanna who is 3/4 turned to 3/2
Yes they work now with surfer but who tf will run shanna and crystal on surfer
hey regis, love the decklists, though I have to wonder-- why do you never use variants?
Think he said it's cuz of streaming and video he just feels it personally makes his videos more digestible and easier to understand at a glance using base variants.
@@VictorianGenetix thanks
First
Still dont get it why change crystal and make her more worse he works very well with hela
Invi girl on 2
Magik on 3
Crystal on 4
Modok on 5
Hela on 6
Jubs on 7
And you played all of your card now this deck is 1 power less because they nerf crystal
Miles Morales in for Mistique.