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Stryd Power-Based Training Plans! - Here's How It Works on Apple Watch and Garmin
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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Time Stamps
00:00 - Intro and Overview
01:29 - What You Need
01:46 - Setting up a Training Plan
02:55 - Stryd Training Calendar
03:41 - Powercenter Website
03:58 - Apple Watch Stryd App
04:47 - Garmin Stryd App
06:29 - Final Thoughts
I have the Stryd Wind since 3 months and just found out with your video about that, I never really looked about the plans but indeed it's interesting as the Power based trainings are definitely efficient, this I can confirm with my own small experience :) Great infos!
Totally! Power training seems much more efficient than just straight up HR training. Thanks for watching!
Interesting. I'm newish to running so focusing still on aerobic capacity. However I can see how training to power would help. How you picked up your kids in time. Great video as always
Ha! Yes we made the bus! Training with power is really awesome even for newish runners. Thanks for watching.
Hi Dave, hope you made the school bus. Thanks for this post, very informative and relevant as I’m upping my game in 2021 to train for a road marathon ahead of doing an Ultra in 2022 ( got to do before I get too old ) Best wishes Mark
We made the bus! The stryd pod is really awesome for marathon training. Good luck with your goals!
@@ChaseTheSummit need your help. With the stryd app on the forerunner 745 ,still collect vo² max, performance condition ,training status in Garmin and the other metrics? Or we only have that metrics in the run profile ?
Great news , that’s exactly what i was waiting for and it works perfectly on my Garmin fenix 5x and my Apple Watch 5
Awesome!
which device would you prefer to use with stryd, fenix 5x or apple watch.
@@winterlove89 the Apple Watch does the synchronization of workouts smarter and more reliable. On Garmin there is an additional problem that if you are using the Stryd for distance an pace measurement, Garmin will not calculate the VO2MAX. Beside that the app is very good on both devices,
@@franks5510 I'm using an Apple watch seriess 5, so I should keep it & buy a stryd instead of buying a garmin. Thanks for your quick response.
Sounds like a great assist to have in a training program, as you mentioned an ultra distance would be awesome with elevation considerations. I.E. 50miles with 10,000ft elevation gain input data and outcomes training program for how much elevation is needed prior to race day etc....Again thanks for the video great stuff
For sure, now that it's out of beta I'm hoping to see more plans roll out! Thanks for watching.
I’ve really appreciated your videos and find them extremely helpful
I was looking for your advice for the best training/coach took out there. Looking to training for a 10k and 1/2 marathon this year.
I currently have an an Apple Watch but I’m on the verge of springing for a Garmin 745/945/6s
Thanks in advance
Thanks for watching! The Stryd pod would probably be worth investing in if you want structured training for a 10k or half. I personally train on "feel" but will occasionally follow a plan. I'm also not super competitive.
This video is a couple years old now, but I thought I’d comment for research. The Stryd training programs are all TIME based, not distance based, which threw me off my typical run plans. I used to run loops because I know the local mileage, but after getting the Stryd it forced me to start running out-and-backs (instead of running an 8-mile loop and ending up back at my house, I now run 30 minutes out, turn around and run 30 minutes back because Stryd doesn’t give you distances to run, it gives you time, and I never knew where I was going to end up on a loop if I stopped at a certain time instead of a certain distance.)
Has this changed at all?
Very interested in Stryd, with regards to training can you set up anything like Garmin’s suggested daily workouts rather then setting a specific date?
Nice!
Definitely a welcome feature! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for very informative video. I’ve set it up. Let’s see how it goes. One quick question... as my critical power change during the course of the plan, I assume the plan will automatically adjust the workouts power zones, right?
Secondly, ideally would like this feature to be free, but if they have to charge, I hope they don’t charge more than $4.99/month.
Yup! It will adjust as needed. The cost is still unknown at this point they’re testing the water to see how many folks adopt it and then going from there. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this straightforward video. I've been doing a week worth of workouts to train for a marathon and they have been great. But can't figure out how to get my workout to the watch so I carefully watched your video. With some more digging after, I realized the Garmin Forerunner 735XT is not included. Darn!
Oh darn! Seems like Stryd could update their app to include it. Strange!
@joanne I also have the 735xt. You cannot transfer the Stryd workouts but you can see the power data so what I do is write the power targets on my hands lol. I guess we need to upgrade our watches...
@@sylvainbauge since I am just getting back to running shape after having a baby in June, it has been ok so far since my easy job is 220W and stryd suggests I run at 180W. So I have been following a Stryd Plan with easy runs that doesn't have intervals yet. But it would be nice to have watts in there. I was also thinking of converting Watts to Pace for individual workouts on my Garmin, however my area is so hilly that is why I wanted to use power over pace. So I might just start writing on my hand too!
@@JoanneHastie but you do see the Watts on your garmin, right?
@@sylvainbauge yes I do see the watts (just not the power workouts via the watch)
awesome
I thought so! Thanks for watching.
Great video! Any plans on doing a video on how to use the data from a Stryd Pod to optimize your running? Or what things you can do with the data? I'd also be interested in a comparison of the Stryd Pod and some other running power gadgets, like for example the Garmin Running Dynamics Pod? Anyways, keep doing what you do! Oh and also, Happy New Year! :D
Good feedback. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching!
Just started running, I am on a walk to run 10 k in 13 weeks the most frustrating part has been setting timers up this stride looks awesome. I really enjoy your reviews
Stryd is super helpful for judging a sustainable pace even for newer runners. Thanks a lot!
I new a hint please, I use garmin 6x, normally I use the garmin Connect, after my runs uploads automatically to garmin connect, Strava and Stryd. But today i tryed the Stryd workout app and the run only uploaded to Garmin! Can’t find the todays run or even upload manually
Hi Dave, thank you for your videos. I'm not that interested in training plan from Stryd but I'd love to know if and how Stryd might be beneficial for a trail runner. I mean Stryd is very expensive I would say but yet there is only few information about it. I don't know if I only want a new gadget or Stryd could help. Thank you very much for your thoughts maybe even review :)
It's helpful for just about any style of running. It's basically a more quantifiable way to measure how your performance is increasing over time. If you're putting out more power with a lower HR it means your training is paying off. That said, it is expensive and it's certainly not for everyone... Really for the data geeks who like to see numbers improve in relation to fitness. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit Thank you for your sharing. I use Garmin HRM-PRO so get some power measurements but I wonder if Stryd is more accurate on uneven surfaces like trails and if it would bring me more knowledge. If you make full review with study case in future, I will greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your videos!
Does this actually work if you just start a normal running session from the Apple Watch activities option? or do you need to record a running sash from the stryd app on your Apple Watch? cut if its the latter it does not seem to record a actual workout session on your Apple Watch and I like to close out the rings on my Apple Watch. because I don't think I can have the stryd app running on my Apple Watch the same time and record a session and have the Apple Watch default running workout running at the same time. Lastly if you completed a workout will the stryd data will show additionally in the normal workout app as additional information or will it not show up there at all?
You'll need to use the Stryd App for it to work. It won't work with the standard apple app alone. Results will not be shown in the standard apple app only in Stryd. Hope that helps!
I currently have a Garmin 245 Music and looking to upgrade to either an Apple Watch ⌚️ Series 6 or Garmin Fenix 6 Pro! Which would you recommend? With which watch will Stryd work best with? I asked Stryd themselves and they said it would be best with Garmin Fenix 6 Pro but I wanted your opinion since you own both. I am training for a sub 1:30 half marathon
Stryd works on both pretty equally. It's a bit "funner" of an experience on the AW. If you're more interested in sports I'd look at the Garmins but the AW is a much better "smartwatch". If you're running sub 90 minute half I don't think battery life will be a concern for you! ha!
Does Stryd improve GPS / distance / pace accuracy? I’m struggling to get accurate and reliable Distance and pace data as I’m running in a urban environment with tall buildings and other obstacles with up to 10% variance on distance and as result on pace! Although I am keen on running with power as a concept and the other running dynamics this product may offer , the main reason I would like to consider it is accuracy on the other running metrics . You cannot have a GPS watch that doesn’t give you accurate pace !!!
Yes, the Stryd also acts as a footpod so it can improve the distance/pace on your watch. There are cheaper options like the Zwift Pod or Garmin's own RD pod that do the same thing. Thanks for watching!
Stryd updates ios stuff asap, but I love the way it shows stuff on the garmin. It seems way easier to see the power levels for each step/stage of the workout. On apple watch, I don't think it shows all the stages and power levels at the start, and then it doesn't show the target power while you're running. I have to memorize it beforehand from my phone.
Thanks for sharing. They've made several updates recently and the Garmin app has gotten a lot better!
Thanks for all of the information. Which do you think is better with Stryd? I have an AW and Garmin Fenix 6, and if keeping the Garmin need something because my pace, distance and gps is not that great.
The AW app is pretty awesome with Stryd.
Thanks for the response.
Am I watching this at 1.5 speed? checks video setting. Nope Dave is just hopped up on coffee! Stryd pod's not cheap, $220! I hope those training plans are free for now!
Ha! Right? Training plans are free for now! Thanks for watching Brice!
It's a lot, but free training plans for 6+ months makes it a sweet deal now.
Free or not - their RSS based training plans are a huge fail if you try to use them on technical trails (or even paved roads) with significant altitude changes.
They don't factor in the gross impact of Altitude/Oxygen on CP - which is a huge defect in the calculation of the resulting RSS and any other metric derived from CP.
"What Stryd Is All About: Setting The Fastest Known Time Up Mt Antero (14,276 feet)"
That was the Stryd blog I read that got me interested in Stryd. Nowhere in the advertising did they disclose that the process included having to use a spreadsheet to determine Joe's "target range". They imply something that their product doesn't do.
Hi! Is a Navigation while a power-workout possible? Have a nice day 👋!
On the apple watch you could pull it off with two different apps. On Garmin unfortunately it's not possible.
How would this work if you just started running with no running data? How does it establish your base for training?
Once you have a few runs in with the Stryd pod it will learn your fitness level and cater a training plan around that.
My only issue with the Garmin Stryd Workout App , is that it does not have navigation in it or any of the other Garmin Run app widgets, so If I am going on a long run which I wish to do on a course it would be impossible for me to navigate unless I am missing something here.
Yeah! That is a bummer. I tend to record my Stryd workout on my phone and a seperate workout on my watch to get around this. Not great, but it works. Thanks for watching!
Big video tomorrow about this kind of things. I hope tomorrow Polar will announce better srtyd integration and power-based workouts 😁
Yeah it's weird. I'm glad I got an apple watch the other day. The stryd app is always the most up to date there, but it's hit or miss on fitness watches and even android.
Polar V1 already has Power. When Barr trail killed the screen on my V1, I "upgraded" to a Garmin Fenix 5x... and a Stryd.
Still not convinced Stryd was an upgrade.
Now that you’ve had it about a month do you think it’s worth buying?
The Stryd Pod is awesome! The training plans are useful but I haven't been following them too strictly because of an injury. If I was training for a goal race I think I'd use them a bit more. Hope that helps!
Interesting vid since I know nothing about Stryd. I assume using 'running power' is a bit like using heart-rate zones. I would have to hear something pretty emphatic to sign up for a subscription fee though when an HRM has always given me the feedback I need.
Hey! Stryd has a great community that raves about it on Facebook, Stryd Community, I recommend checking it out. It is the most accurate and responsive device on the market (one of the reason people use power over HRM)! Disclaimer, I work for Stryd and thought I'd point you in the right direction of more info.
@@easterngr Thanks for the reply, Mike. I am curious. I won't be going near Facebook though. I'll check out other media sources instead.
@@dr4aces Welcome! The Reddit community has some great testimonials to training with Stryd too.
The other advantage of Stryd is the precision about distance and pace, where the HRM has nothing to do with it :) Power based or HRM based trainings, it's up to anyone to decide what fits best, but precise distance or pace comes from Stryd and helps a lot for those looking at it (like me). So it can do more than only power :) Sadly I don't work for Stryd and bought my sensor like any other would but I find it pretty useful.
@@ludovicjost4911 Thanks for the feedback. It sounds very useful.
I’m a Polar user but want to purchase an apple watch or garmin watch just in order to do the Stryd workouts. Which of the two do you like best?
The Stryd app for apple is great if you don't need super long battery life.
@@ChaseTheSummit Great. Thanks for your advice on this-one!
Is the stryd pod worth it if for trail running with a lot of elevation gain?
I think so. But it really depends what your goals are and if you'll make use of the training plans.
@@ChaseTheSummit probably wouldn't use any of their training plans. Possibly play around with using running power. But the main thing would get accurate pacing
I purchased the Stryd footpod a few weeks ago and I like it. I have been using the training plans but I feel like the power zones are too slow for me. I'm always running out of my power zones. I have a CP of 325 and today was an easy run with power zones of 211-230 for 1:15:00. After I completed my run, my average power for the run was 280. That power zone for me is essentially a power walk. Does anyone else face this issue? I think I may be doing something wrong.
280 is a power walk? Dang! That's a run for me haha. I haven't had an issue like that but it kind of varies on every run a little bit.
@@ChaseTheSummit lol. Not the 280. That’s what I ended up running for that training session. The power zone recommended of 211-230 feels like a power walk.
@@ChaseTheSummit You cannot compare power between different runners as power depends on weight. You can only compare watts/kg
@@traderhines76 First, something I learned using Stryd is that a big chunk of my trainning load needs to be at low intensity. I really learned to slow down most of the days even when my body wanted to run faster. I did so and with time feel the benefits. So, go slower even if that means almost walking or jogging.
But, it could be that you might have not calibrated well enough your critical power. Do once more the intro plan, do an autotest or input your latest best efforts on the app to recalculate your critical running power.
Does Stryd work with indoor cycling in order to get the training status actived on garmin?
Nope, it's only for running unfortunately.
@@ChaseTheSummit so what can I use if I am doing indoor cycling in the gym?
@@karimahmedrashwan5388 You would need a cycling power or speed sensor that can attach to the bikes crank arm.
@@ChaseTheSummit thank you so much!
mhmm maybe I missed a part but why is Stryd asking me how many days I want to train when they only offer a high volume (6 days) vs low volume (4 days)? I do run 3x time per week, selecting this as a criteria gets ignored as it only offers 4 or 6 days.
I think more functionality will come in the future. I suppose you could adapt some of the pre-configured workouts or import some from Training Peaks.
👍 Thanks for your good videos - they are compact, informative and nice to see 😎! Have you trained anytime with a Stryd and in individual Powerzones? When yes: is there any alert (sound or vibration) if you are out of the zone? If not: there is a Datafield „Datarun“ from Joop Verdoorn for Power-Zones - maybe you have check it? …because I‘m looking for a Garmin with the option for Power-Zone-Training with vibration-alert when I‘m out of the zone. Could you give me any advice 🤔? Have a nice day 👋!
If you use the Stryd app for Garmin there is an audible alert when you leave the desired power zones. If you're only using the data field I don't believe there's an alert.
If only stryd made a cheaper version. Hard to justify a footpod that costs the same as my FR245
Haha yeah that’s true. Though I really do like the information it gives me! Thanks for watching.
it's true it's expensive but it's worth the price. Precision increase is huge, especially when the GPS is difficult to catch and the watch would suddenly show you a plus 2 minutes pace to your actual pace, plus all the other information and stats provided by Stryd (if you like stats) plus the power based trainings and "style" of training. But yes, it costs a lot... It's an investment I don't regret, after using it now for a few months.
This is cool but I didn't expected that monthly fee. By the way thanks for sharing information. Also I thought you were android user! 😅
Fortunately for us it's free until Mid-2021 so you can enjoy the perks without paying any money. Stryd told me that they're still deciding on what it will cost based on the feedback they get from users. I still use android! I have both now. I actually picked up an iPhone for the sole purpose of reviewing the apple watch 😂
@@ChaseTheSummit that's good. I really enjoy your reviews.
@@nimagholipour Thanks!
Nima Gh There is still free data. The paid will be for in depth data and reports and analysis.
@@mlee7418 really, cool. Thanks
I just updated the app and tried to add a training plan and got a "Could not add plan" error. Anyone have an idea why this is happening?
Hmm, that's strange. Worked for me out of the box. Are you on android or IOS?
@@ChaseTheSummit iOS. Turns out that despite the error message, it did actually add the plan to my calendar. Found out the hard way when I checked and had eight workouts for today because I kept attempting to add it (oops). So if anyone else has a similar issue, double check the calendar before you try again. Thanks for replying!
This also happened to me. After I quit out the plan was there. It must be a big.
@@mlee7418 Had a similar experience!
Oops, I think you all figured out it was supposed to say “it must be a bug.”
The pod itself is a steep investment. IMHO they should give us and new buyers the first year free and beyond that I’d want to pay $2.99 / month with a discount if purchased yearly. We all have plenty of other subscriptions going and I’d like to see Stryd price this competitively to get a lot of users and keep the business initiative running. Pricing too high, although I appreciate the value of the data, might be unappealing altogether once you factor in the cost of the pod.
For sure! I'm glad they're doing a trial period. The way Stryd explained it to me is that they want feedback from their customers before they come up with a pricing strategy. Hopefully they listen!
COROS did the intergration better than all Garmin and Apple combined!
Their native integration is great. Unfortunately Coros isn't supported for Stryd Workouts yet. Only Garmin and Apple for now. Hopefully that comes soon!
Why would I pay for a subscription? I won’t pay 300$ plus a subscription.
The good news is that there isn't a subscription yet... It's 100% free for now. Stryd only mentioned that someday they might add features and make it a subscription based option. Hope that helps.1
Not so great for coros. Garmin and apple payed more it seems
I don't think that's the case. The difference is that Stryd develops their own app for Apple's app store and Garmin's Connect IQ store so they're able to modify it and develop things as they please. Coros will need to develop these features to integrate with stryd since they don't have an "app store" per say. Thanks for watching!
Meh.
No bueno? At least it’s free!
@@ChaseTheSummit There are individuals who had power based running plans on Training Peaks with their own Garmin fields that pull power zones from TP for some time now (80/20 Running - Matt Fitzgerald). Steve Palladino (I think is his name) has had power plans as part of the 3P project or whatever on Final Surge. I actually discovered him from Stryd videos... So yea, underwhelming to say the least. I'm hanging up my Stryd for a bit and am going to give the HRM Pro a whirl.
I think Stryd is just trying to become more self dependent. Seems like a good move for them if their plans work out. I like how easy it is to set up rather than the somewhat overwhelming process with Training Peaks. The good news is its free for now so we can all decide if it's worth paying for or not in the long term. Thanks for watching.
@@ChaseTheSummit TP is too much for me. I like the easy questions stryd asks to set up the plan.
How would this work if you just started running with no running data? How does it establish your base for training?
Once you have a few runs in with the Stryd pod it will learn your fitness level and cater a training plan around that.