Thank you for doing this video since the UF8 is still new to the market. Just got mine two weeks ago and very impressed. It is very user-friendly, very plug & play, and the programming aspect of it with 360 is stupid easy. The SSL drum strip and voice plug-ins are included, and they give you a 6 month trial with the SSL bundle. Using Logic and very happy.
does this come close to mouse and trackpad...most famous producers I follow, just use mouse or track ball, and don't mess with consumer surfaces. Or is this a hassle , and by the time it's set up you're already done. on a laptop.?
@@levondarratt787 I tried two different consoles years ago, but it was too much effort and a distraction, but this this is very user-friendly. There are some instrument plug-ins where I'm still using my mouse, but I was long annoyed with using a mouse for the smallest tasks, especially mixing. I also needed faders to better control string instruments, so that was part of the logic. I've set up many hot keys on the SSL so I don't have to use my laptop or mouse...there is a small adjustment curve of course. This won't make you compose any better, but it has drastically improved my work flow and saves my hand/arm from hours and hours of repetitive motions; this alone is a big deal for me. It's just so damn easy to use and set up. Good luck @Levon D.
I bought one UF8 and I liked it so much that I immediately bought another one. :) This is a total game changer. I have programmed the soft buttons to show mix buckets like DRUMS, KEYS, GUITARS, etc. in Studio One and I'm using the second layer to control the Console of my UAD Apollo hardware. I'm not sure why UAD isn't able to implement this, but there is a smart guy who developed the Software "UA Midi Control" and together with UF8 this is killer (just a tip for the UAD Apollo users out there). The only thing I don't like is the feel of knob caps.
what about major Daws? Studio One I great for consumers, but what about Pro Tools, Logic? Or even Ableton for DJ's. Does it work the same way? Usually they fail , when it is time to go pro level.
@@levondarratt787 Not sure why you think Logic or ProTools is more pro than Studio One. The reason why DAWs are failing is usually the DAW itself. The S8 is as good as the DAW supports the Mackie Control. It's possible that S1 support is a bit better than ProTools' but in general all mentioned DAWs are supported.
Easily the best Q & A overview of the SSL UF8 I've seen. In-depth and eyes-on. Looking at the manual online also helped me figure-out what the actual dimensions of the unit are. User-programable macros are NOT to be underestimated. The compact flexibility seems to compliment the tactile sensitiveness in an efficient way. Non-obtrusive. Sleek design. Even modular to a degree with the rack ears.
"When you plug in the UF8..." How does it plug in? USB, USB-C, Thunderbolt? Does it get its power from the connection or is there a separate power supply? This controller does look awesome.
Great demo, mates! Would like to see how this integrates with the just released UC1...SSL is a name you can trust. Been on the fence with Icon and Behringer stuff - will definitely be saving my pennies for these controllers - the integration with Logic is really tight - it looks like they squeezed every inch out of the Mackie protocol! Kudos to SSL.
He mentioned he had a faderport, and it only had 1 channel, and he sold it. I wonder if his impression would have been different had he bought the faderport 8 or 16
Whenever people say that, I wonder if they misjudged the way it's meant to be used. For example, I see some people new to one-fader products mix entire sessions. That's not economical or comfortable. If you are just using it for programming automation, it's probably more than enough for most people during a mixing stage. Many people sell it and sadly never return to a pretty useful tool. While I love my many-fader controllers, I still tend to use my good old Alphatrack for most of my automation when I am alone mixing.
Nice controllers, but for the life of me I’d like to know how in the hell did “no dedicated transport controls” get past the developers. It’s a DAW controller.., transport buttons should never be accessed the way they set this up. That’s like making a new car and having to open your trunk to start it.
You can have transport button with the soft keys on top, and it allows to not have physical buttons which would be messy if you would stack multiple UF8, you would have multiple transport buttons. Now they released the UC1 for EQ/Comp control, it’s just a matter of time for them to release a Transport/Master controller. So you could have an UC1, couple of UF8 and a Uxxx Transport controller and recreate a complete console layout without having redundant transport buttons. My 2¢
@@luv.matters I know what it is. I have it and the UC1, I was asking the question for the clown that comes on another company’s page talking about some other company.
They are a bit late to the party with the mobile small foot print controller seems like they just took many aspects of the avid dock, s1 and S3 functionality with respect to programming soft keys but now a person has to remember all the programmed set ups you created. Again ssl has made a stellar unit for tech heads and engineers.. the average bedroom studio Blout who just wants to make music will have a steep learning curve with this unit. well, “Hard work is good for the soul,” they say say
I love using physical controls, and have a controller in my studio alongside other synths etc... so I am fully into that way of working, but it's ridiculous to say that you're only using hand-eye coordination for changing things using a mouse vs. a pot on a controller. Hand-eye coordination works for everything including adjusting a pot or a fader. Why have companies that create controllers gotta make out that using a mouse is some terrible hellish experience, especially given there are hardware controllers and hardware DAWs that feature a trackball control in them. A mouse is really great for some stuff, not so great for other things.
Too many DAWs unsupported at the moment IMO. A lot of my students use Reaper and Cakewalk (both not officially supported) and I use Sequoia15 as a mastering engineer (as do a ton of mastering engineers), also not officially supported. Maybe in the future. Who knows.
So if/when you would chain multiple units together what happens to all the function buttons? I would have designed extender units to not make it look like you just chain the same unit over and over(doesn't look like one cohesive unit). Do they (the function buttons) become independent controls or all chain together to do the same function across units? I like this but I just think it looks cheap and unimaginative in aesthetic design for a modern home or pro studio. I would have wanted a better look more like a mini console than everything crammed into a DJ looking unit. Look at the Icon Qcon Pro X and the extenders it has. That looks like a beefy console and has all the functionality and programmability like all the other units out there but lacks the fancy little color screens of the Avid S1 and SSL. I want to see a control surface that makes you think you are in a big studio in design at an AFFORDABLE price point and a "pro look as well from SSL. Add a meter bridge as the Qcon has at the top of the unit (instead of everything in a 1"x1" screen)or at least make the little cute screens tilt up so I don't have to hunch over to see them from my seat. I can't believe no one will do this kind of thing. It's 2021/22 and yet designs are still 2005. $1399 is not interesting to me as it is now., sorry. Avid's S1 design is way better and Icon's is more inexpensive for what you get. I expect more from SSL. Look at how it even looks sitting in the SSL console. Looks like it doesn't even fit and was just dropped in. Yuck. Make me want to spend my money.
Thanks Lemon Jelly! Great idea, we’ve got a video coming up on the new Fantom Update but you’re about getting all the new Roland Stuff together in one vid. Thanks for that 🙏🏻
this episode is priceless...he kept asking questions & then started cutting dude off..& u can see how it really irritates him...I love how Sam gave us a wonderful show & yet still performed/informed brilliantly....I understand ur frustration Sam....😩😂
Isn't 16 fader a minimum? i think I'd rather have no controller at all than just 8. Am i crazy? Of course if the controller let's you edited plugin it's not so clear cut but still. P.S. I know you can chain them but then they take more room on you desk. I'll wait and see if they produce a 16 version.
yeah, everybody is half Arsing these things.... 16 faders for 999 or 32 faders for 1299 should be the real deal, not this hobby guy, micron, knobtweaker, wannabe shite....
would I be able to use the faders to control modulation, expression and volume in VST libraries installed on Cubase 10.5 like NI komplete, Hollywood strings & spitfire?
You know.... What you asking I've been looking for it long time. Nobody has done that. Would be awesome and a truly new item if that's available in it.
this can be done thru midi, this controller may have a midi mode, not sure, I know presonus does and it opens up functions like that. This controller also has a flip to fader button, so what ever you program to a knob can be flipped to the fader as well. You should have no problem controlling your software instruments with this thing.
@@metalplatedfacejob Unfortunately...don't think this is possible.....SSl wrote back saying that its not possible...but I think its a doable fix....Presonus posthumously added this feature on their FaderPort 8/16 just last year.... I would like to see this feature on the SSL UF8 or the WavesFit...
Interesting... The way it integrates (can be installed,) within the center of the Origin. Is this merely a physical integration only, or is there any true functional integration via A communication?
Im a little way in , and I'm counting how many times Sam says the word "Obviously"..... So I shall join the party..... that's "Obviously" a Grammy. . . . Past that, Props... Still wish there was a cut shown 8 fader bank that allowed less function keys for Fader closeness... which :"obviously " still allowed access to functions from say this outlay.. and a few faders with a joystick option and weighty transport control..... But, is that in the pipe line? (Obviously , you are not going to confirm that.. Its the product that will be center of as system...but If you do well with it, there's hope for more expandable options.. Obviously Im typing this having watched 5 mins... its obvious (
I’m not gonna lie I’m having a tough time between deciding on the UF8 and the nucleus 2. If I double rig the UF eight I’m still missing out on an easy to access stop record rewind button and 2/SSL mic preamps For about the same price.
@@nicolaslureau8044 I have been looking into just getting the SSL 12 and the UF eight. I definitely like the nucleolus but not sure it fits my needs completely
It’s the key board shortcut of your DAW for ‘insert new audio track’ + ‘Rename’ + + ‘Enter + ‘Inset new audio track’ + ‘Rename’ + + Enter … repeated multiple times
Nice looking? YES, cheaper than the NUCLEUS? yes, does the same thing? Pretty much... so that sounds interesting... but then, Behringer X-Touch is under half the price, and also does the same... and even cheaper is the Icon Platform M+ that also looks sleek. So... how am I going to really justify spending almost 4 times the price of say the platform m+ for this UF8? I really would love to, but I'm way too consciously budget inclined as well... or I would already have owned the Nucleus 2! ;P Any thoughts?
The build quality on the SSL is far better than the products you mentioned. The faders on the X Touch are janky. You definitely get what you pay for with anything Behringer. Yikes
The biggest selling point in this entire video, the macro commands, could be done in the 13-year old Euphonix MC control (that’s also way cheaper), or even cheaper than that - the 36$ software keyboard maestro (and it also does mouse recording etc). I don’t see anything remotely intuitive or new with this product tbh - maybe the scroll wheel simulation (Again Euphonix MC transport does this as well) or just buy a mouse with a better scroll wheel…
yea it's a too bad SSL didn't to have the foresight to integrate the UC1 completely into the UF8 at time of release. At least for now they work as two different products. its like having a broken console...lol When you combine the two it is suppose to act like a integrated console.. NOT.
The UF8 is a major disappointment: (1) When you get beyond the hype you find that SSL have programmed the UF8 so that the plugin parameter names disappear when faders are flipped so it is ABSOLUTELY USELESS for writing automation in flip mode! It's such a basic requirement to know what a fader controls! (2) There no track colours! - They are essential and this has been requested time and time again by users. It's impossible to navigate a project easily when there are no colours to differentiate tracks AND made worse because ... (3) Track names are truncated so short. (Note to SSL: EDM track names are not simple scribble strips like "GTR 1" - Know your users please!). The truncation has to do with the Mackie legacy I understand but what I don't get is that Softube Console 1 pulls the full track names from Ableton. Hey SSL coders ... just copy the way Softube do it SSL - PLEASE! I'll happily add a track name copying plugin on each channel to pull the track name through in full if it makes the UF8 actually a usable tool. (4) Worst of all is the ridiculous amount of time it is taking SSL to go M1 native. My companion UC1 is redundant next to the UF8 when using the latest version of Ableton. If things don't improve both the UC1 and UF8 are going up for sale because it's just a frustrating waste of money on good hardware with underwhelming implementation. I've spoken with SSL and made them aware of these issues in a constructive way saying "hey guys, we need this and it'll make the products really usable". They just ignore my emails now and won't comment on whether any of this is coming. It's so frustrating to support them to be better but then see SSL releasing new plugins over sorting out major usability issues for existing customers. What incentive is there when they already have our money? Do better please
I have two of these units and they do not work together at all. Don't waste your money. I'm going to replace them. Getting in touch with SSL was impossible so I'm just out $2,500.00. Lesson learned.
how is this better than the push..these guys need to realise that the most handy controller is the one that doesnt need setting up...and im a logic user, i just create an ableton then rewire to logic for mixing...
It comes completely preset for supported DAWS - its up to your imagination if you want to take it further BUT having that option is what makes this unit stand out IMO. This looks truly next gen
@@everydaysame4880 No, but it looks like it is a completely different beast to the UF8. I would be tempted to say that the push is an attempt at providing an alternative "input source' to a standard keyboard whereas the UF8 (and most other control surfaces with "standard" faders) have their lineage in a mixer. The push, like the keyboard, is a way to assist in the composition process whereas the UF8, (and most other control surfaces), are more about assisting you with the latter part of the overall production process (notwithstanding that there is an overlap between the processes of composition and production that both these units cover). m.ruclips.net/video/8elcJOsrOxY/видео.html
@@ianwalker2258firstly the push is an instrument persay ..I'm not here to defend daw use etc I know what you are saying but I just think that having a external device that is completely and already set up with a daw is preferable than something that needs to be configured just so you can do the same job as you could with a mouse..
My Dear Jack, can you please stop making these always brilliant Product Vids with your pals? It's getting expensive over here ;-) greetz from germany, again.
@@palaHD you said there’s no dedicated Play, Record, Stop etc buttons. However, the SSL rep stated that their intention for the UF8 was for the user to tell it what to do (i.e. being customizable to fit anyone’s workflow). So having dedicated buttons for these would go against that objective because maybe someone might want the top left buttons to be other controls and not play/stop/record
If you only require 8 moving faders, then this is battle ready. If, however, you want multiple faders for Old Skool real mixdowns, this device is an own goal. A grown up engineer wants a master unit with transport and assignable buttons. Then 8 Channel fader only extentender modules that will pack closely together....up to 32 Chans total is fine. We don't need 4 jog wheels and big gaps between the faders. WAKE up SSL. Stop listening to the Twats in the Marketing Department.
@@BMoreGoHard Yes I do. Had it since it came out and zero problems with it. Has run multiple DAWS with no issues. It's my DAW controller surface of choice. Have also tried Presonus products, but found that X-touch does it all for what I need. IMO, If I had an SSL XL-Desk, etc. I would get this to keep it in the "family" and impress clients, but at nearly triple the price you could get X-touch and other stuff. SSL is coming out with more products, it's like they are stripping down a console and selling piece by piece - 500 series preamps, comps, EQ's, UC1, UF8, etc.
@@GeoZero oh ok. Well, I just copped the UF8 and UC1. I’ll say this about a name. Some times it’s garbage, but there is a reason some names can demand three times another product when you’ve put in the work to create a good one. People will spend for a name because they are paying for trust. And facts show that ssl know how run circuits for consoles.
@@BMoreGoHard If I had an actual SSL console or mixer, even a XL Desk, etc, then yes I would consider these because of the name branding. But if you are getting these and mixing in the box on say Ableton, or whatever, then it makes no sense from a financial perspective - you are simply overpaying for the name. These are just controllers. IF SSL came out with a mouse I would not buy it because I can use my Logitech one just fine. That's the point I was trying to make. That said I own SSL EQ's in 500 series format because they actually mean something.
I am 00:23 into the video at time of posting, I'm calling it NOW just by the fact this is a SSL Product it will NOT be affordable for mere mortals. Irritating AF as I Really want to find a high quality DAW Controller That is either affordable enough to buy a few of (aim to have 32 Faders Minimum total) or a reasonably priced unit with 32 (minimum) Faders. My guess is £600+ per 8 Channel unit.
I'm 12 minutes in, all I hear is BLABLABLA.... ima hang out 3 more minutes....and see if this plastic toy does anything new or fails like all others. Convince me.
Thank you for doing this video since the UF8 is still new to the market. Just got mine two weeks ago and very impressed. It is very user-friendly, very plug & play, and the programming aspect of it with 360 is stupid easy. The SSL drum strip and voice plug-ins are included, and they give you a 6 month trial with the SSL bundle. Using Logic and very happy.
does this come close to mouse and trackpad...most famous producers I follow, just use mouse or track ball, and don't mess with consumer surfaces. Or is this a hassle , and by the time it's set up you're already done. on a laptop.?
@@levondarratt787 I tried two different consoles years ago, but it was too much effort and a distraction, but this this is very user-friendly. There are some instrument plug-ins where I'm still using my mouse, but I was long annoyed with using a mouse for the smallest tasks, especially mixing. I also needed faders to better control string instruments, so that was part of the logic. I've set up many hot keys on the SSL so I don't have to use my laptop or mouse...there is a small adjustment curve of course. This won't make you compose any better, but it has drastically improved my work flow and saves my hand/arm from hours and hours of repetitive motions; this alone is a big deal for me. It's just so damn easy to use and set up. Good luck @Levon D.
I bought one UF8 and I liked it so much that I immediately bought another one. :) This is a total game changer. I have programmed the soft buttons to show mix buckets like DRUMS, KEYS, GUITARS, etc. in Studio One and I'm using the second layer to control the Console of my UAD Apollo hardware. I'm not sure why UAD isn't able to implement this, but there is a smart guy who developed the Software "UA Midi Control" and together with UF8 this is killer (just a tip for the UAD Apollo users out there). The only thing I don't like is the feel of knob caps.
what about major Daws? Studio One I great for consumers, but what about Pro Tools, Logic? Or even Ableton for DJ's. Does it work the same way? Usually they fail , when it is time to go pro level.
@@levondarratt787 Not sure why you think Logic or ProTools is more pro than Studio One. The reason why DAWs are failing is usually the DAW itself. The S8 is as good as the DAW supports the Mackie Control. It's possible that S1 support is a bit better than ProTools' but in general all mentioned DAWs are supported.
Easily the best Q & A overview of the SSL UF8 I've seen. In-depth and eyes-on. Looking at the manual online also helped me figure-out what the actual dimensions of the unit are. User-programable macros are NOT to be underestimated. The compact flexibility seems to compliment the tactile sensitiveness in an efficient way. Non-obtrusive. Sleek design. Even modular to a degree with the rack ears.
OI have never heard of this before and Now I NEED This. Good work lads.
lol
A game changing product these will be my controller upgrade
I used to sell SSL key microchips used in their products (and Soundcraft and Cadac). I can die happy now..
Insightful and I already got it and love it. I definitely didn't know about the typing aspect and that should be a selling point for real!
Got mine on order! appreciate the 2 freebies but would be cool to get a discount on their other plugins!
Looks great, but the lack of dedicated transport controls is a huge oversight.
Agreed. No real season to upgrade from my faderport 8.
Spacebar?
@@deanrinehart huh?
@@dancarter5595 I’d prefer dedicated controls too but I usually use the space bar to start/stop playback anyway so no biggie. And I never use FFW/REW.
@@deanrinehart Transport controls are usually a lot more than just a play/stop button. Take a look at the Behringer x-touch for instance.
"When you plug in the UF8..." How does it plug in? USB, USB-C, Thunderbolt? Does it get its power from the connection or is there a separate power supply? This controller does look awesome.
DC transformer plug
i love the look of this thing! you gentlemen are experienced with gear. How many years do you think it would take to make it look easy to program it?
Great demo, mates! Would like to see how this integrates with the just released UC1...SSL is a name you can trust. Been on the fence with Icon and Behringer stuff - will definitely be saving my pennies for these controllers - the integration with Logic is really tight - it looks like they squeezed every inch out of the Mackie protocol! Kudos to SSL.
SSL guy seems totally annoyed through the whole video! 😂
Haha - I thought that.
That’s what I thought
I got mine. Comment on what you know. This thing is 🔥...
@@redviagra 😆 it is though!
I don't blame him, the presenter is quite unbearable
I just got this and I love it! I wasn’t expecting the plugins so that was an awesome surprise, also what happened at the 31:00 mark? Lol
He mentioned he had a faderport, and it only had 1 channel, and he sold it. I wonder if his impression would have been different had he bought the faderport 8 or 16
Facts!! i love my faderport 16
Whenever people say that, I wonder if they misjudged the way it's meant to be used.
For example, I see some people new to one-fader products mix entire sessions.
That's not economical or comfortable. If you are just using it for programming automation, it's probably more than enough for most people during a mixing stage.
Many people sell it and sadly never return to a pretty useful tool.
While I love my many-fader controllers, I still tend to use my good old Alphatrack for most of my automation when I am alone mixing.
Excellent video.
can be used with the Luna ??
Does it have preamps?
Best demo! Thanks!!
Nice controllers, but for the life of me I’d like to know how in the hell did “no dedicated transport controls” get past the developers. It’s a DAW controller.., transport buttons should never be accessed the way they set this up. That’s like making a new car and having to open your trunk to start it.
By not insisting on dedicated transport controls the options for running multiple units side by side are a lot less messy?
@@ianwalker2258 My thoughts exactly. two of these beside each other popped in my mind anytime I think about my use case.
You can have transport button with the soft keys on top, and it allows to not have physical buttons which would be messy if you would stack multiple UF8, you would have multiple transport buttons. Now they released the UC1 for EQ/Comp control, it’s just a matter of time for them to release a Transport/Master controller. So you could have an UC1, couple of UF8 and a Uxxx Transport controller and recreate a complete console layout without having redundant transport buttons. My 2¢
@@Spidouz is a transport controller something thats in the pipeline do you know?
Thanks Fella's, Great Tutorial. Would also love to know where I could get that piece of music towards the end. Keep on Keeping On.
Can't work with UA Luna and I'm pretty sure UA is gonna drop their own
Is this a UA Luna product page?
@@BMoreGoHard No it’s not a Universal Audio Controller it’s SolidStateLogic “SSL” studio controller! 💁🏼♀️
@@luv.matters I know what it is. I have it and the UC1, I was asking the question for the clown that comes on another company’s page talking about some other company.
This was fantastic!! 🎉
They are a bit late to the party with the mobile small foot print controller seems like they just took many aspects of the avid dock, s1 and S3 functionality with respect to programming soft keys but now a person has to remember all the programmed set ups you created. Again ssl has made a stellar unit for tech heads and engineers.. the average bedroom studio Blout who just wants to make music will have a steep learning curve with this unit. well, “Hard work is good for the soul,” they say
say
The transport functionality looks amazing, can you rewire Logic as a slave then? Because I know you can't do that using the traditional ReWire method.
wil It also works with Cakewalk by
Bandlab ?
you guys were right about the 16 channel being better
Very nice but I'll stick with my Behringer X Touch which seems to do a lot of what this can do for far less money.
DOES IT WORK WITH STUDIO ONE
I love using physical controls, and have a controller in my studio alongside other synths etc... so I am fully into that way of working, but it's ridiculous to say that you're only using hand-eye coordination for changing things using a mouse vs. a pot on a controller. Hand-eye coordination works for everything including adjusting a pot or a fader.
Why have companies that create controllers gotta make out that using a mouse is some terrible hellish experience, especially given there are hardware controllers and hardware DAWs that feature a trackball control in them. A mouse is really great for some stuff, not so great for other things.
Pretty clever to make a controller that literally fits in the console while not looking out of place.
Wait til these guys hear about templates
Too many DAWs unsupported at the moment IMO. A lot of my students use Reaper and Cakewalk (both not officially supported) and I use Sequoia15 as a mastering engineer (as do a ton of mastering engineers), also not officially supported. Maybe in the future. Who knows.
Sadly, nothing (except iCon Audio and Mackie) work with Samplitude and Sequoia.
@@chaddonal4331 Exactly
What if a controller also had a built-in trackball? That’d be neat.
Great shout David!
So if/when you would chain multiple units together what happens to all the function buttons? I would have designed extender units to not make it look like you just chain the same unit over and over(doesn't look like one cohesive unit). Do they (the function buttons) become independent controls or all chain together to do the same function across units? I like this but I just think it looks cheap and unimaginative in aesthetic design for a modern home or pro studio. I would have wanted a better look more like a mini console than everything crammed into a DJ looking unit. Look at the Icon Qcon Pro X and the extenders it has. That looks like a beefy console and has all the functionality and programmability like all the other units out there but lacks the fancy little color screens of the Avid S1 and SSL. I want to see a control surface that makes you think you are in a big studio in design at an AFFORDABLE price point and a "pro look as well from SSL. Add a meter bridge as the Qcon has at the top of the unit (instead of everything in a 1"x1" screen)or at least make the little cute screens tilt up so I don't have to hunch over to see them from my seat. I can't believe no one will do this kind of thing. It's 2021/22 and yet designs are still 2005. $1399 is not interesting to me as it is now., sorry. Avid's S1 design is way better and Icon's is more inexpensive for what you get. I expect more from SSL. Look at how it even looks sitting in the SSL console. Looks like it doesn't even fit and was just dropped in. Yuck. Make me want to spend my money.
looks like its pitched to compete with the icon.
no automation for Ableton??? unbeliavable
does it work with cakewalk?
Great video once again. Any chance of a mammoth update video for the 2021 Roland range?
Thanks Lemon Jelly! Great idea, we’ve got a video coming up on the new Fantom Update but you’re about getting all the new Roland Stuff together in one vid. Thanks for that 🙏🏻
@@jackduxbury1632 Thank you sir 🤗
Is the specific plugins window automatically open when you access it from the controller ?
Check out the Logitech Craft Keyboard for the Rotary control... save yourself a few hundred quid!
yeah, but if anyone sees that in your studio,,,client think you;re a low budget gamer nerd or office guy,...that would be my concern...
this episode is priceless...he kept asking questions & then started cutting dude off..& u can see how it really irritates him...I love how Sam gave us a wonderful show & yet still performed/informed brilliantly....I understand ur frustration Sam....😩😂
Time to save for a year to get one. 👍
Isn't 16 fader a minimum? i think I'd rather have no controller at all than just 8. Am i crazy? Of course if the controller let's you edited plugin it's not so clear cut but still. P.S. I know you can chain them but then they take more room on you desk. I'll wait and see if they produce a 16 version.
yeah, everybody is half Arsing these things.... 16 faders for 999 or 32 faders for 1299 should be the real deal, not this hobby guy, micron, knobtweaker, wannabe shite....
SSL guy's guide to exuberant video behaviour is now live...
Is this compatible with reaper?
would I be able to use the faders to control modulation, expression and volume in VST libraries installed on Cubase 10.5 like NI komplete, Hollywood strings & spitfire?
You know.... What you asking I've been looking for it long time. Nobody has done that. Would be awesome and a truly new item if that's available in it.
this can be done thru midi, this controller may have a midi mode, not sure, I know presonus does and it opens up functions like that. This controller also has a flip to fader button, so what ever you program to a knob can be flipped to the fader as well. You should have no problem controlling your software instruments with this thing.
@@metalplatedfacejob Unfortunately...don't think this is possible.....SSl wrote back saying that its not possible...but I think its a doable fix....Presonus posthumously added this feature on their FaderPort 8/16 just last year.... I would like to see this feature on the SSL UF8 or the WavesFit...
Will ssl make a 4 or 8 channel interface tho
Seems like it's worth the money, but I want all of your equipment haha. I can't afford it all!!!!!!!!! Haha
The price and the arrogance of the SSL guy just makes this controller much less desirable
Definitely NOT SPENDING THAT MUCH ON A MOUSE REPLACEMENT.
Interesting...
The way it integrates (can be installed,) within the center of the Origin. Is this merely a physical integration only, or is there any true functional integration via A communication?
Im a little way in , and I'm counting how many times Sam says the word "Obviously".....
So I shall join the party..... that's "Obviously" a Grammy.
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Past that, Props... Still wish there was a cut shown 8 fader bank that allowed less function keys for Fader closeness... which :"obviously " still allowed access to functions from say this outlay.. and a few faders with a joystick option and weighty transport control..... But, is that in the pipe line? (Obviously , you are not going to confirm that.. Its the product that will be center of as system...but If you do well with it, there's hope for more expandable options..
Obviously Im typing this having watched 5 mins... its obvious (
I’m not gonna lie I’m having a tough time between deciding on the UF8 and the nucleus 2. If I double rig the UF eight I’m still missing out on an easy to access stop record rewind button and 2/SSL mic preamps For about the same price.
Pair it with fader port v2 and Solved.
& SSL 12 for pres
@@nicolaslureau8044 I have been looking into just getting the SSL 12 and the UF eight. I definitely like the nucleolus but not sure it fits my needs completely
Needs FL Studio support!
Are the faders metal or plastic?
Have You got an answer somewhere? :)
@@RolandsBriedis nope
How did he make the drum stack? What key commands?
It’s the key board shortcut of your DAW for ‘insert new audio track’ + ‘Rename’ + + ‘Enter + ‘Inset new audio track’ + ‘Rename’ + + Enter … repeated multiple times
They talk about price point being amazing? In Australia they're selling for $2000, faderport 16 sells for $1800 at the most.
Nice looking? YES, cheaper than the NUCLEUS? yes, does the same thing? Pretty much... so that sounds interesting... but then, Behringer X-Touch is under half the price, and also does the same... and even cheaper is the Icon Platform M+ that also looks sleek. So... how am I going to really justify spending almost 4 times the price of say the platform m+ for this UF8? I really would love to, but I'm way too consciously budget inclined as well... or I would already have owned the Nucleus 2! ;P Any thoughts?
The build quality on the SSL is far better than the products you mentioned. The faders on the X Touch are janky. You definitely get what you pay for with anything Behringer. Yikes
Programmability is the key word here.
The biggest selling point in this entire video, the macro commands, could be done in the 13-year old Euphonix MC control (that’s also way cheaper), or even cheaper than that - the 36$ software keyboard maestro (and it also does mouse recording etc). I don’t see anything remotely intuitive or new with this product tbh - maybe the scroll wheel simulation (Again Euphonix MC transport does this as well) or just buy a mouse with a better scroll wheel…
yea it's a too bad SSL didn't to have the foresight to integrate the UC1 completely into the UF8 at time of release. At least for now they work as two different products. its like having a broken console...lol When you combine the two it is suppose to act like a integrated console.. NOT.
I have two of these. I love them, but they are far from intuitive. You really need to learn it, then learn it again and again.
The UF8 is a major disappointment: (1) When you get beyond the hype you find that SSL have programmed the UF8 so that the plugin parameter names disappear when faders are flipped so it is ABSOLUTELY USELESS for writing automation in flip mode! It's such a basic requirement to know what a fader controls! (2) There no track colours! - They are essential and this has been requested time and time again by users. It's impossible to navigate a project easily when there are no colours to differentiate tracks AND made worse because ... (3) Track names are truncated so short. (Note to SSL: EDM track names are not simple scribble strips like "GTR 1" - Know your users please!). The truncation has to do with the Mackie legacy I understand but what I don't get is that Softube Console 1 pulls the full track names from Ableton. Hey SSL coders ... just copy the way Softube do it SSL - PLEASE! I'll happily add a track name copying plugin on each channel to pull the track name through in full if it makes the UF8 actually a usable tool. (4) Worst of all is the ridiculous amount of time it is taking SSL to go M1 native. My companion UC1 is redundant next to the UF8 when using the latest version of Ableton. If things don't improve both the UC1 and UF8 are going up for sale because it's just a frustrating waste of money on good hardware with underwhelming implementation. I've spoken with SSL and made them aware of these issues in a constructive way saying "hey guys, we need this and it'll make the products really usable". They just ignore my emails now and won't comment on whether any of this is coming. It's so frustrating to support them to be better but then see SSL releasing new plugins over sorting out major usability issues for existing customers. What incentive is there when they already have our money? Do better please
I have two of these units and they do not work together at all. Don't waste your money. I'm going to replace them. Getting in touch with SSL was impossible so I'm just out $2,500.00. Lesson learned.
I got one and love it. less keyboard and mouse use.
How’re you finding it? Muscle memory etc? I just bought one
The BIG QUESTION! What make it different?
Please! Akai' APC 40MK 2 from 8 years ago is way more advanced and intuitive than SSL! Japan is 8 years in the future!
nice bit of kit but in the long term it won't change anything
how is this better than the push..these guys need to realise that the most handy controller is the one that doesnt need setting up...and im a logic user, i just create an ableton then rewire to logic for mixing...
It comes completely preset for supported DAWS - its up to your imagination if you want to take it further BUT having that option is what makes this unit stand out IMO. This looks truly next gen
If you're not a Live user then this is pretty attractive, but as a Push owner it's not something I would drop on.
@@ianwalker2258 so you've used the push then?..imo theres no such thing as supported for all daws..things just are never that simple...
@@everydaysame4880 No, but it looks like it is a completely different beast to the UF8. I would be tempted to say that the push is an attempt at providing an alternative "input source' to a standard keyboard whereas the UF8 (and most other control surfaces with "standard" faders) have their lineage in a mixer.
The push, like the keyboard, is a way to assist in the composition process whereas the UF8, (and most other control surfaces), are more about assisting you with the latter part of the overall production process (notwithstanding that there is an overlap between the processes of composition and production that both these units cover).
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@@ianwalker2258firstly the push is an instrument persay ..I'm not here to defend daw use etc I know what you are saying but I just think that having a external device that is completely and already set up with a daw is preferable than something that needs to be configured just so you can do the same job as you could with a mouse..
My Dear Jack, can you please stop making these always brilliant Product Vids with your pals?
It's getting expensive over here ;-)
greetz from germany, again.
i love how it's a DAW controller but there's no way of controlling the DAW i.e Play Stop Record etc ? maybe it's because it's only a grand ?
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You can control those actions.
he literally shows how you can map any DAW function in the first half of the video
@@bilnabiln it’s a £1000 daw controller with no dedicated transport controls is all I said,I didn’t say it wasn’t mappable ?
@@palaHD you said there’s no dedicated Play, Record, Stop etc buttons. However, the SSL rep stated that their intention for the UF8 was for the user to tell it what to do (i.e. being customizable to fit anyone’s workflow). So having dedicated buttons for these would go against that objective because maybe someone might want the top left buttons to be other controls and not play/stop/record
Still not working on Mac M1s - pretty disappointing
oh no
Have You got an answer somewhere? :)
@@RolandsBriedis They state on their website that they work on it but it’s not supported yet. So could be in a week or 6 months who knows
A year later and it still has more M1 compatibility than iLOK
If you only require 8 moving faders, then this is battle ready. If, however, you want multiple faders for Old Skool real mixdowns, this device is an own goal. A grown up engineer wants a master unit with transport and assignable buttons. Then 8 Channel fader only extentender modules that will pack closely together....up to 32 Chans total is fine. We don't need 4 jog wheels and big gaps between the faders. WAKE up SSL. Stop listening to the Twats in the Marketing Department.
That thing ain't the boss of me
In Pro Tools This is just a HUI controller.
UF8 - $1300
Xtouch - $450
But it does have the SSL name on it. So there's that.
Do you have the Xtouch?
@@BMoreGoHard Yes I do. Had it since it came out and zero problems with it. Has run multiple DAWS with no issues. It's my DAW controller surface of choice. Have also tried Presonus products, but found that X-touch does it all for what I need. IMO, If I had an SSL XL-Desk, etc. I would get this to keep it in the "family" and impress clients, but at nearly triple the price you could get X-touch and other stuff. SSL is coming out with more products, it's like they are stripping down a console and selling piece by piece - 500 series preamps, comps, EQ's, UC1, UF8, etc.
@@GeoZero oh ok. Well, I just copped the UF8 and UC1. I’ll say this about a name. Some times it’s garbage, but there is a reason some names can demand three times another product when you’ve put in the work to create a good one. People will spend for a name because they are paying for trust. And facts show that ssl know how run circuits for consoles.
@@BMoreGoHard If I had an actual SSL console or mixer, even a XL Desk, etc, then yes I would consider these because of the name branding. But if you are getting these and mixing in the box on say Ableton, or whatever, then it makes no sense from a financial perspective - you are simply overpaying for the name. These are just controllers. IF SSL came out with a mouse I would not buy it because I can use my Logitech one just fine. That's the point I was trying to make. That said I own SSL EQ's in 500 series format because they actually mean something.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone try to give details about a product and get talked over to this degree. Wow.
please give us more than 4 letters to name tracks .
Saving sanity? Pity it's too late, mate :D
Sorry but that intro video was so unnecessary, I feel like I lost 2 mins of my life. But I'll carry on.
I am 00:23 into the video at time of posting, I'm calling it NOW just by the fact this is a SSL Product it will NOT be affordable for mere mortals. Irritating AF as I Really want to find a high quality DAW Controller That is either affordable enough to buy a few of (aim to have 32 Faders Minimum total) or a reasonably priced unit with 32 (minimum) Faders. My guess is £600+ per 8 Channel unit.
basically , YOU DONT NEED THIS ..
Game changer? With HUI and MCU protocols? Are you kidding?
Bro this guy talk to much just show me the magic don’t tell me about it wtf
Seems pointless and wildly overpriced. I'd personally like to see SSL expand their interface range.
A High priced mouse.
I'm 12 minutes in, all I hear is BLABLABLA.... ima hang out 3 more minutes....and see if this plastic toy does anything new or fails like all others. Convince me.