Good review but for $5k it'll stay at the shops. I simply cannot find a single way to justify that cost for an individual. And by the by; every launch monitor will contain a computer. Hell, your phone is one. Your fridge might even contain one. So saying "this is the computer" is a bit weird. :)
Two things I think would have improved this. The ability to somehow elevate the screen so you're not bending down so many times during a round. The other would be if you had some kind of controller so you don't have to bend down to make changes. But what an awesome unit, really big jump from the R10 and shows Garmin wants to compete with the big names of the Launch Monitor world.
ALSO because I want it over my Automatic Golf Ball Dispenser (clearly, I do not like leaning over). The R10 is NOT hurt from a few minutes of rain. I heard the word "outside" used. I'm not scared of the cost of a gaming PC but how it could die outside. I don't want a controller. Not needed with it elevated. I'd happily take less accurate if it cost $2k less. R25? The Awesome like games are only to rationalize the purchase to the rest of the family. What decision makers want is course play SECONDARY and driving range FIRST. I likewise want more practice tools. The goal is not fun (and my R10 is GREAT fun, especially with the guys over). The goal is better IRL golf. For example, Trackman Shot Analysis provides detailed shot data (Optimizer Tool helping visualize optimal trajectories and distances for different clubs) and Tracy AI goes a step further by offering personalized insights and recommendations based on that data. I want more. I do not simply want the Garmin Range that came with the R10. I want a new AI coach... a reasonable expectation at this price. I want practice modes focusing on Club and Ball Speed (to hit longer with ten shots, rest; repeated three times), face angle and club path (to correct slice or work on horizontal shape control), and launch angle and back spin (vertical shape control). I like how Tracy lets you practice and provide feedback on a single metric. And, I want a special 5-slot comparison tool to compare five balls, five clubs, or five driver settings. I want to hit 5-10 times for each with some Tracy AI (ELIZA?) to tell me which was best. I use Golf Fix AI Coach (and Golf Shot Analytics). I want Wi-Fi integration.
Absolutely mind blowing all this and can be used inside and outside (I'm not going to be in the rain either 😂). Everything this unit does and at that price point is OUTSTANDING!!! Thank you Gabe for bringing this to us less than Mere Mortals.
Wow! This looks to have everything I’ve been looking for in a LM except maybe the price point which is a bit steep. Looking forward to a more thorough review of it with chipping and putting indoors and out with side by side comparisons with a gc4
I've been saying for years, someone needs to make a launch monitor with a high powered gaming pc built in. this makes it so much easier for people like me who know nothing about pc's to play gspro. I'm using the mlm2pro currently and i'm happy with it but this will be my next sim purchase for sure. Actually by that time i'm sure there will be multiple options in this category. Excited where the home golf sims are headed.
@@WhoDeyFan123 I’ve thought this too. Imagine an overhead unit that has the simulation software and projector built in. Turn on and go. Little controller box or remote to make your changes or adjustments or type.
I totally understand....but for me I would prefer to be able to use an app on a tablet. Leaning down to the floor to the screen can be challenging 😢😢😢😢😢😢
The other side of this though is for people who know PCs, its nice being able to make one or buy one that is an absolute beast and will run the program without lag. Garmin has a conflict of interest in keeping the price as low as possible, which means they will likely skimp out on certain parts of the PC build. Just like we see with all-in-one gaming computers, there's usually integrated graphics that isn't that good.
As much as it is a positive to have a built-in computer, the concern is how quickly it will get outdated and un-updatable. Even a laptop or an iPad from 7 years ago is slow and obsolete so where will that leave this product in a few years? At least with a separate PC, it can be upgraded to keep up with the times and growing performance/display demands.
This is perfect for my outdoor setup. No more setting up my r10 or skytrak OG along with my iPad on each session. No worrying about skytrak connection issues. So excited to get this! Already a Garmin user for the R10 and golf watch so I hope my subscription transfers
Would love your thoughts on the accuracy of the club metrics (path, AoA, face to path) and also some more details on the GSPro connector functionality. Putting and chipping accuracy tests would also be great. Great first review!
Truly appreciate the review, Gabe!! I am in the process of renovating my garage and will be setting up my golf simulator towards the end of this month. I ended up getting the ST+, but kind of regretting it now. But thanks to you, I will be having some fun soon and improving my game during the winter. Once it is all set up, I will send you pictures. Thank you and Play Better!!
WOW! As an avid R10 user this thing is absolutely game changing. GSPro and E6 connectivity out of the box. When I first looked up the price I had the same kind of sticker shock since I am a budget golfer but to me this beats most LM out there currently and still comes in at the same price/cheaper than many. As others said the ONLY thing I would like to see is some sort of remote control/screen mirroring so I have the ability to control it without crouching over every time but thats a nitpicky thing. Fantastic and cant wait to see more videos.
Really hope this unit can be the industry disruptor. Low subscription costs and, as far as we know, no cost to connect to 3rd party simulator software? Unheard of! I have a GC3 but I’m really rooting for this thing. No more high-cost subscription nonsense please!
Can you somehow add a mouse to the device so I can access it 'remotely'? I don't want to have to bend down after every shot and toggle between views. Looks like a great unit!
My knees are hurting just thinking about using R50 in game play. I was waiting for the R50 to come out before I upgraded my R10 after 3 years of use. For the R50 to go into that price range with (Bushnell, Full Swing, ProTee, Eye mini, Eye mini Lite, GC3, QED, Launch Box, etc.) makes zero sense. I already have a set up for using GSPro on ultra with putting. My R10 gives me accuracy way above it's price range. So now if I want to upgrade it is either Eye Mini lite ($2500) which is $2500 less than the R50 or The Square ($700) $4300 less than R50.
Yeah, I'm going Eye Mini Lite hopefully after the next time it goes on sale. The Garmin is flashy and appears to be a GREAT unit. However, once you start practicing or playing sim, the touchscreen becomes a non-issue. Plus, I don't like the idea of having to bend down constantly to control it. Terrific design though.
Great overview Gabe! In most “first looks” at the R50, I see lots of talk about not needing a computer (and the resulting savings). But that seems unlikely unless you want to run the Garmin in-house simulator. That’s probably not most users who build a home simulator. GSPro users, for example, would still need a gaming PC for graphics connected to a projector. The real question is whether E6 - which has a tablet version of its simulator software - will be able to run on the unit itself. Clearly, I would imagine E6 Apex will require a PC as well. If the above is true, then the GC3 remains the main competition. The R50 is cheaper and has a great screen, but it’s quite a bit bulkier. And the GC3 works great as a stand-alone unit on the range. It’s very easy to use with an iPad Mini on the stand. Some key questions for me are how the two units compare in data points offered, how those are measured/calculated, and how accurate each unit it. I can’t wait to see your in-depth review!
Spoke with Garmin customer service and they mentioned that to access GS Pro you would still need to utilize a PC. It would be great if everything operated out of the unit itself. They also mentioned that the unit does not automatically detect which club is being used, so you would have to bend over to enter the information over each time. Would love to hear a review comparing the home tee hero vs gs pro.
Let’s go! I won’t be able to afford this bad boy for a while but I love 3 miles from the Garmin HQ in Olathe, KS and it’s so cool they’re creating this kind of stuff right down the road.
Nice video as always Gabe! It looks like a great device. And as a R10 owner I would love to upgrade to this one, but I'm disappointed about the price. The sweet spot for me would be something within the 3000 - 3500 USD/EURO range. Which makes it comparable with Skytrack Plus and Mevo Plus. The buildin screen is a big pro, but I'm not sure it's worth the 1500 USD extra.
I felt the same. Until I realized the GameChanger is the fact that you don’t need a gaming computer to run it. With that savings, it puts it in line with the others you mentioned.
@@LetsPlayThru I understand your point, but I would only use it outside, like I'm currently doing with the R10 in combination with an iPad. So I won't have these savings. Anyway I'm still tempted to get one if it becomes available in Europe 🙂
Outstanding as always, Gabe and very timely. I am currently in the planning phase of my home simulator setup and this is very intriguing to say the least! Excellent work
I was sceptical after the R10 but after this review, I'm sold. This is absolutely amazing. I already have the Golfzon Wave for playing various courses, the R50 will be perfect for practice.
Excellent intro video, thx! Been waiting to see this come to fruition since I read rumors about it and saw the patents a year or two ago... Looks like only Home Tee Hero runs locally, you will need another device to run any other sim software. iPad will be fine for e6 and Awesome Gold, gaming PC for GSPro. So that changes the calculus on this considerably, unless you only want to use Home Tee Hero or happen to already have the needed device to run other golf sim software. Please let me know if I am mistaken. Looking forward to the upcoming videos on this long awaited potential game changer!
Gabe, great review on the R 50. I have the R 10 and I like to export the data to a CSV tape spreadsheet. Then I import it into my XL spreadsheet and I save it. I hope we can do this in the R 50.
Wow 😮.... That is all. I've been saving my pennies to upgrade from the R10 to a Mevo+. Looks like I'll be saving a few more pennies because this unit looks incredible!
Wow, what a review and what a device. I have the R10 and these guys with whatever they do, they deliver. At this point is out of my price range, but one could hope and I can always watch your videos. Question:: Once you get a none beta version, let us know if you can email your data as you can with the R10.
Great review and I'm very excited to try this out. How difficult was it to get the screen to mirror and fill up your projector screen fully? That's my biggest complaint on the R10 with my Iphone/Ipad mirroring.
Love your channel. Things to add to the next video. I didn't see you mention whether it has multiple player support in the Garmin simulation golf and be able to score different formats, i.e match, scramble, stableford, etc. Also ball requirements, dots, RCT, etc. I am assuming none since you were using it at the range. Would also like to get your take on the comparison of the R50 and the less elegant solution of something like the Bushnell connected to an iPad and iPad connected via HDMI adapter(or wirelessly via screen mirroring or airplay) to a projector/TV. Wouldn't the later, all be it less elegant, be cheaper and potentially equally or more capable? No bending down...
Wow….i think I’m glad I’ve been patient. I thought the Skytrack was gonna be my best option. I’m gonna be all in if they do add the club mapping or a wedge matrix like the Skytrack pro. I have to imagine it will. I feel like a kid that just added his top item to his Christmas list!!! Can’t wait! Hope they’ll be able to keep up with all the orders that will be coming in!! Great video as always. Look forward to seeing any updates that are headed its way.
i'm so excited about this launch monitor! i can't wait til your next video on this unit! seriously thinking of getting this one, since it will only require a projector! thanks for your hard work!
Great video as always. The R50 looks really, really good. I love the fact that a computer isn't required and that HDMI to the projector is a great idea. One thing that does seem very odd is that you don't get an average for your shots? Surely that's a massive oversight seeing as most people using a launch monitor would want to see an average after hitting x number of shots with specific clubs? No way would I want to have to record and calculate this myself!
Nice for a indoor simulator, but not for me on the range. Too massive, as well as expensive. Still in awe with the Mevo+ I got last month to replace the old R10.
Thanks for the video. This thing looks amazing. I'm already way over my budget so sticking with an eye mini lite (hopefully on Black Monday). Looks like you must be in Tampa? The course you're playing in the video looks very familiar. ;-) Just one minor thing... I love the touchscreen and the fact that this doesn't need a pc. However, it really might be more comfortable to just use my laptop on a stand next to my mat than having to squat down to select things on it.
Thx Gabe, now you just made my decision even harder in which one to buy. 😂. Like the idea of not having to buy a PC. Seems like a real advanced monitor, like you mentioned be nice to see averages. How many courses do you get with it? I’m a real fussy person want something I’m not going to be disappointed in. Putting this price into CDN funds makes it’s pricey but there’s more expensive ones out there. Thx for the review, will be watching for more.
I agree. It's useful for people who want an all in one solution and are happy with the default Garmin software, but let's be real here, you aren't going to be running GSPro on the device itself. You'd still need a PC.
I think the main advantage of this is you can bring it to anywhere without taking a PC, projector, screen with you. Normally it doesn't require very powerful processors to process ball/club data. But 3rd party app's data (graphics rendering, for example) might requires more and more powerful processors to get higher FPS.
Its certainly very cool, but speaking for myself, I rarely take my launch monitor anywhere. Maybe to the range every once in a while, but I'm not sure how practical it is for anyone who already has a sim setup. Maybe for new people wanting to get into this space, it's hassle free and easy to understand. For anyone who is already established, I doubt they would want to use home tee hero over gspro for example. That being said, $5000 is not bad at all especially if you already understand the price of the competition. I think the folks saying this is expensive may not be exposed to the better launch monitors. I mean coming from an r10 which is under a thousand to $5000 is a crazy jump for sure.
Living in the coldest country in the world, Canada, I usually play indoor from mid-November to end of March. I have tried all the sims and I have appreciated only one in the past 10 years. Trackman is the only simulator that I had fun playing 18 holes, the other ones were not realistic or the graphics looks like Wii console 1st gen. This R50 looks great for a 5000$ sim.
@ I saw a video yesterday about the coldest country and I learned that we are #1. Canada is cold but 80% of the population lives near the US border where the temperature is not extreme. My climate is about the same as Vermont.
Great Vid - wow what a unit...it really has to link with the s70 watch somehow - share data back and forth - that would be so key! Whoever is spending this type of dough will appreciate that level of syncing ability
Nice review, thanks very much! I've got one question: I only have a practice net outside for practicing at home. In winter it's dark and I play with lights. Does a camera based system work in bad lighting or even darkness?
I like that it's an all in one launch monitor with its own screen. However, with it having a usb port on the back along with hdmi, is it possible to link to an iPad so you're not bending down to control it?
Cool product…but I think gspro is a far superior golf software. Yes, you can use gspro with the R50, but in order to use 3rd party software, you have to use a projector and a computer. That kind of defeats the purpose for me. I think for some this is an incredible golf monitor, but I think I’ll stick with my Mevo plus with the pro package and club face which easily supports left and right handed golfers. Great review though! This will be a cool product for some.
Holy smokes, this is the one. I really wanted a Trackman for the impact data, but if this is accurate, it’s got what I need to improve. Now I have to start breaking ground on the new “shed” out back…
This exactly. I already have a projector, laptop and GsPro. I don't want to go back to HTH. I want a rear mounted device with better accuracy. That is it. These type of devices are painful to people who have LH golfers in their group that play. Even for what it is, $5000 is really steep. $3,200 would have caught my eye. I am Canadian and this would be $7K for me. No thanks. I have way better options in that price point such as overhead systems. This is a nice device and I would love to have, but this is missing the market it should be going after.
Looks like a true game changer! As a GC3 owner, while the hardware is very nice, the software side of Foresight is laughable at best. Their engineers seem like high school dropouts with the amount of bugs that exist with every software update.
This might be perfect for me if it works easily and consistently. I have a Launch Pro and use it mostly at the range. The device itself is great, but between the subscription cost, the connectivity problems, the slow and clunky interface, and the constant app crashes, I'm about fed up with the whole thing. Also, setting up the ipad I could do without. Look forward to seeing how it fares over the long haul. Definitely intrigued!
Great review. The unit is pricey but sounds like it is real good. I have a SKYTRAK + and it’s good but doesn’t have angle of attack which would be greatly helpful and I’m not sure how accurate the spin is.
This seems like a great unit, but as "mere mortal" 5k is really steep. Especially when the new Square with low end gaming computer will give you the same experience for WAY less than half the price.
Great review, but you didn’t mention how smooth it ran 3rd party softwares. I hear people say that if your PC isn’t fast enough, softwares like GS Pro are slow, so how does the R50 as a computer hold up in that respect? Is it fast and smooth enough to run GS Pro like a PC would?
How easy is it to switch between left and right handed players? I've heard the Square launch monitor can be moved back and forth if playing with plays of different handedness but I assume this would be way better if it is possible.
Really great review! My question is is it worth saving the money from a QuadMax and get this? I’m looking to upgrade and have always wanted a GCQuad or QuadMax, but you can literally buy 4 of these R50s for the price of one of those. Also I have called and reached out to foresight multiple times and have not gotten any response, I’m literally trying to give them my money! Would you forgo the brand name hype and just save the money and go with one of these?
That is such a tough one. I think I have to withhold judgment until I do the side-by-side accuracy test. But from what I can see this is 99% of the accuracy of the GC4 with a lot more bells and whistles.
I just bought a square launch monitor and think that is the best one ever. If they figure out the spin stuff and make a protective case for it then I can't imagine why anyone would spend $5,000 for a launch monitor unless you're a PGA pro
Uh, yeah, the SquareGolf LM doesn't measure swing speed, can't be used outside, has accuracy issues, and the driving range features boats. Don't get me wrong, SquareGolf looks good for what it does, but let's be real.
Cool idea but it has some issues. It's not totally replacing a computer. You're going to be locked into these low res golf courses, with a PC you can get so much better quality courses with GS Pro. You can get a great gaming computer for $1,000. The thing is massive, you're never bringing that to a range, it's like bringing a desktop computer to a coffee shop.
Subscribed and looking for all your content as well as much info regarding this platform by others. That being said, you did ask if we had any questions. I'll throw out there the obvious devil's advocate by asking - 1) what are the drawbacks to this platform? (not price) 2) With this system being touch screen and so low to the ground, all of us taller people with bad backs... youch, can this output to an iPad or another touch screen device that potentially be at standing level? 3) While I am just as excited about the idea that the device itself eliminates an actual gaming PC, What type of HDMI standard is supported? Most active HDMI cables cannot be more than 25 feet, a not very insignificant cost. $100. 4) can this device accept other camera angles for swing analysis, similar to the Uneekor Eye Mini or MLM2Pro? This system seems to be an awesome next generation swing monitor. Fingers crossed, hoping to enjoy more of your content.
Gabe, any word / rumblings about an updated Garmin R10? This R50 looks awesome, but an improved R10 would be more what I'm looking for (portability, price etc)
Great review. The GC Quad will shut down if you set them up side by side. My Quad does it when set up next to my GC3. Would be interesting to see how it reads compare to a Trackman?
I know that I'm probably in a slightly different situation than most but I have around 6 launch monitors (Garmin r10, rapsodo mlm2pro, skytrak, swing caddie sc4 and sc300i, etc.) because I like to try out new technology and have subscriptions on 4 of them so the subscriptions really start to add up, etc. I believe that the recently launched square launch monitor does not have a monthly subscription so that's nice to see and I'd like to see more companies take that approach (no pun intended)...
It would be awesome, but honestly, I don’t expect to see that. Mostly because you need an phone or tablet to run R10 And it’s harder to render high-quality graphics on those devices. I also think they want this to be the premium product that stands apart. But we will shall see.
Hey team, bot kuch info on this monitor atm, how many cameras is it using to measure? Also how is the battery life? A good test would be a radar unit vs it to avoid the close by interference. Unit has me genuinely excited
Great reviews best ive seen so far. Few questions do you need rct balls or do regular balks work . Can you plsy third party apps like e6 on the screen as its ios only also awesome golf . I think the ability to raise the screen would have been an amazing feature for those like me who use outside net
@@LetsPlayThruShame only Garmin home tee hero only works on it , would be brilliant if e6 awesome golf could work via same screen especially at 5k . So you need a pc for all the others apps I assume you mean iPad as this works with e6 and awesome golf ,wonder if they will update this as the unit is obviously capable
The price to me is bit high plus remember still need to buy projector ,hitting screen and mat but hey if you got that the $$$ cool 😎… me I got the raspodo unit set up 😁…. Keep up the nice work 👍🏽
Great review. Price really hard to justify for most. If I had one I’d find it hard to justify going to an actual course after laying out that much cash
great video :) i would really be interested in seeing the variation of club path and face to path compared to trackman or gc4. If they are accurate in this there's no doubt in buying this launch monitor in my opinion.
As I'm currently well endowed with a lauch monitor and have reached the point where I hate hitting balls and only play golf courses, I'm wondering if the 43,000 stipulated courses at St-Georges de Beauce and Beauceville in Quebec Canada are part of the inventory. This is the only condition that will allow me to acquire the Garmin R-50 Thank You for the answer Alain Jacob
Are the driving range and practice areas free from subscription fees? And do you need the garmin subscription if you are going to use third party simulator software?
Space is about 4” x 6” it seems. There is an ingenious way to align using 2 balls, but hard to explain without showing you (that is coming in an upcoming vid). Just like other side mounted units, to use with righties and lefties, You just simply move the device to the other side.
I've got tons more content on the R50 coming, so make sure to subscribe: ruclips.net/channel/UCgb-p291xQ_hUx7hQtOb72A
Good review but for $5k it'll stay at the shops. I simply cannot find a single way to justify that cost for an individual. And by the by; every launch monitor will contain a computer. Hell, your phone is one. Your fridge might even contain one. So saying "this is the computer" is a bit weird. :)
Two things I think would have improved this. The ability to somehow elevate the screen so you're not bending down so many times during a round. The other would be if you had some kind of controller so you don't have to bend down to make changes. But what an awesome unit, really big jump from the R10 and shows Garmin wants to compete with the big names of the Launch Monitor world.
100 percent agree to raise the screen would be an amazing idea . I love using my stand with my r10 previously and now rhapsoda
I will risiing you as Garmin golf product manager
ALSO because I want it over my Automatic Golf Ball Dispenser (clearly, I do not like leaning over). The R10 is NOT hurt from a few minutes of rain. I heard the word "outside" used. I'm not scared of the cost of a gaming PC but how it could die outside. I don't want a controller. Not needed with it elevated. I'd happily take less accurate if it cost $2k less. R25?
The Awesome like games are only to rationalize the purchase to the rest of the family. What decision makers want is course play SECONDARY and driving range FIRST. I likewise want more practice tools. The goal is not fun (and my R10 is GREAT fun, especially with the guys over). The goal is better IRL golf. For example, Trackman Shot Analysis provides detailed shot data (Optimizer Tool helping visualize optimal trajectories and distances for different clubs) and Tracy AI goes a step further by offering personalized insights and recommendations based on that data. I want more. I do not simply want the Garmin Range that came with the R10. I want a new AI coach... a reasonable expectation at this price.
I want practice modes focusing on Club and Ball Speed (to hit longer with ten shots, rest; repeated three times), face angle and club path (to correct slice or work on horizontal shape control), and launch angle and back spin (vertical shape control). I like how Tracy lets you practice and provide feedback on a single metric. And, I want a special 5-slot comparison tool to compare five balls, five clubs, or five driver settings. I want to hit 5-10 times for each with some Tracy AI (ELIZA?) to tell me which was best. I use Golf Fix AI Coach (and Golf Shot Analytics). I want Wi-Fi integration.
Maybe you could hook up an iPad on a stand with an HDMI/Lightning connector?
Absolutely mind blowing all this and can be used inside and outside (I'm not going to be in the rain either 😂). Everything this unit does and at that price point is OUTSTANDING!!! Thank you Gabe for bringing this to us less than Mere Mortals.
Yes, it's insane. Better than I ever could have expected.
Wow! This looks to have everything I’ve been looking for in a LM except maybe the price point which is a bit steep. Looking forward to a more thorough review of it with chipping and putting indoors and out with side by side comparisons with a gc4
I've been saying for years, someone needs to make a launch monitor with a high powered gaming pc built in. this makes it so much easier for people like me who know nothing about pc's to play gspro. I'm using the mlm2pro currently and i'm happy with it but this will be my next sim purchase for sure. Actually by that time i'm sure there will be multiple options in this category. Excited where the home golf sims are headed.
@@WhoDeyFan123 I’ve thought this too. Imagine an overhead unit that has the simulation software and projector built in. Turn on and go. Little controller box or remote to make your changes or adjustments or type.
I totally understand....but for me I would prefer to be able to use an app on a tablet.
Leaning down to the floor to the screen can be challenging 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@vt20247 didn’t think about that. That is a big bummer
The other side of this though is for people who know PCs, its nice being able to make one or buy one that is an absolute beast and will run the program without lag. Garmin has a conflict of interest in keeping the price as low as possible, which means they will likely skimp out on certain parts of the PC build. Just like we see with all-in-one gaming computers, there's usually integrated graphics that isn't that good.
As much as it is a positive to have a built-in computer, the concern is how quickly it will get outdated and un-updatable. Even a laptop or an iPad from 7 years ago is slow and obsolete so where will that leave this product in a few years? At least with a separate PC, it can be upgraded to keep up with the times and growing performance/display demands.
This is perfect for my outdoor setup. No more setting up my r10 or skytrak OG along with my iPad on each session. No worrying about skytrak connection issues. So excited to get this! Already a Garmin user for the R10 and golf watch so I hope my subscription transfers
I imagine the subscription would Xfer, yes.
@@LetsPlayThruyes it’s just one sub per Garmin account. So if you pay for green heat maps you get everything else free haha.
Would love your thoughts on the accuracy of the club metrics (path, AoA, face to path) and also some more details on the GSPro connector functionality. Putting and chipping accuracy tests would also be great. Great first review!
Thanks I'll be working on that
Truly appreciate the review, Gabe!! I am in the process of renovating my garage and will be setting up my golf simulator towards the end of this month. I ended up getting the ST+, but kind of regretting it now. But thanks to you, I will be having some fun soon and improving my game during the winter. Once it is all set up, I will send you pictures. Thank you and Play Better!!
WOW! As an avid R10 user this thing is absolutely game changing. GSPro and E6 connectivity out of the box. When I first looked up the price I had the same kind of sticker shock since I am a budget golfer but to me this beats most LM out there currently and still comes in at the same price/cheaper than many. As others said the ONLY thing I would like to see is some sort of remote control/screen mirroring so I have the ability to control it without crouching over every time but thats a nitpicky thing. Fantastic and cant wait to see more videos.
Did you find out if it has screen mirroring to an iPad so we don’t have to bend over every time?
Really hope this unit can be the industry disruptor. Low subscription costs and, as far as we know, no cost to connect to 3rd party simulator software? Unheard of! I have a GC3 but I’m really rooting for this thing. No more high-cost subscription nonsense please!
What's the subscription costs of gc3 with gs pro?
Can you somehow add a mouse to the device so I can access it 'remotely'? I don't want to have to bend down after every shot and toggle between views. Looks like a great unit!
My knees are hurting just thinking about using R50 in game play. I was waiting for the R50 to come out before I upgraded my R10 after 3 years of use. For the R50 to go into that price range with (Bushnell, Full Swing, ProTee, Eye mini, Eye mini Lite, GC3, QED, Launch Box, etc.) makes zero sense. I already have a set up for using GSPro on ultra with putting. My R10 gives me accuracy way above it's price range. So now if I want to upgrade it is either Eye Mini lite ($2500) which is $2500 less than the R50 or The Square ($700) $4300 less than R50.
Yeah, I'm going Eye Mini Lite hopefully after the next time it goes on sale. The Garmin is flashy and appears to be a GREAT unit. However, once you start practicing or playing sim, the touchscreen becomes a non-issue. Plus, I don't like the idea of having to bend down constantly to control it. Terrific design though.
Great overview Gabe! In most “first looks” at the R50, I see lots of talk about not needing a computer (and the resulting savings). But that seems unlikely unless you want to run the Garmin in-house simulator. That’s probably not most users who build a home simulator. GSPro users, for example, would still need a gaming PC for graphics connected to a projector. The real question is whether E6 - which has a tablet version of its simulator software - will be able to run on the unit itself. Clearly, I would imagine E6 Apex will require a PC as well.
If the above is true, then the GC3 remains the main competition. The R50 is cheaper and has a great screen, but it’s quite a bit bulkier. And the GC3 works great as a stand-alone unit on the range. It’s very easy to use with an iPad Mini on the stand. Some key questions for me are how the two units compare in data points offered, how those are measured/calculated, and how accurate each unit it.
I can’t wait to see your in-depth review!
Spoke with Garmin customer service and they mentioned that to access GS Pro you would still need to utilize a PC. It would be great if everything operated out of the unit itself. They also mentioned that the unit does not automatically detect which club is being used, so you would have to bend over to enter the information over each time. Would love to hear a review comparing the home tee hero vs gs pro.
Let’s go! I won’t be able to afford this bad boy for a while but I love 3 miles from the Garmin HQ in Olathe, KS and it’s so cool they’re creating this kind of stuff right down the road.
Nice video as always Gabe! It looks like a great device. And as a R10 owner I would love to upgrade to this one, but I'm disappointed about the price. The sweet spot for me would be something within the 3000 - 3500 USD/EURO range. Which makes it comparable with Skytrack Plus and Mevo Plus. The buildin screen is a big pro, but I'm not sure it's worth the 1500 USD extra.
I felt the same. Until I realized the GameChanger is the fact that you don’t need a gaming computer to run it. With that savings, it puts it in line with the others you mentioned.
@@LetsPlayThru I understand your point, but I would only use it outside, like I'm currently doing with the R10 in combination with an iPad. So I won't have these savings. Anyway I'm still tempted to get one if it becomes available in Europe 🙂
Outstanding as always, Gabe and very timely. I am currently in the planning phase of my home simulator setup and this is very intriguing to say the least! Excellent work
This is definitely a game changer as there is no need for all the extras, truly plug and play...assuming you have an overhead projector.
I was sceptical after the R10 but after this review, I'm sold. This is absolutely amazing. I already have the Golfzon Wave for playing various courses, the R50 will be perfect for practice.
i almost wanted to place my order today for a new GC3, seeing this i am now on the wait as i want to see if i should rather go over to the R50
Excellent intro video, thx! Been waiting to see this come to fruition since I read rumors about it and saw the patents a year or two ago...
Looks like only Home Tee Hero runs locally, you will need another device to run any other sim software. iPad will be fine for e6 and Awesome Gold, gaming PC for GSPro. So that changes the calculus on this considerably, unless you only want to use Home Tee Hero or happen to already have the needed device to run other golf sim software. Please let me know if I am mistaken.
Looking forward to the upcoming videos on this long awaited potential game changer!
Gabe, great review on the R 50. I have the R 10 and I like to export the data to a CSV tape spreadsheet. Then I import it into my XL spreadsheet and I save it. I hope we can do this in the R 50.
I do something similar with my Mevo+.
Wow 😮.... That is all. I've been saving my pennies to upgrade from the R10 to a Mevo+. Looks like I'll be saving a few more pennies because this unit looks incredible!
R10 to Mevo+ isn't much of an upgrade imo I'd have waited anyway
Mevo+ is ass
Lol r10 to the mevo 😂 not really much of a difference 😂
Wow, what a review and what a device. I have the R10 and these guys with whatever they do, they deliver. At this point is out of my price range, but one could hope and I can always watch your videos. Question:: Once you get a none beta version, let us know if you can email your data as you can with the R10.
You always deliver. This video was no exception.
Appreciate it 🙌
Thank god they finally released it😊
Nice review - thank you! Whats the alignment and distance requirements to the net and sideway to the ball?
Great review and I'm very excited to try this out.
How difficult was it to get the screen to mirror and fill up your projector screen fully?
That's my biggest complaint on the R10 with my Iphone/Ipad mirroring.
It’s set up for 16 x 9. So it worked for me perfectly. I do think that you can also change it to a 4:3 orientation if I remember correctly.
Great video. I'd like to see how easy it is to flip around for lefty hitters.
Thanks for the review. In your opinion is it better than the Skytrak +? The graphics don’t seem as good?
Love your channel. Things to add to the next video. I didn't see you mention whether it has multiple player support in the Garmin simulation golf and be able to score different formats, i.e match, scramble, stableford, etc. Also ball requirements, dots, RCT, etc. I am assuming none since you were using it at the range. Would also like to get your take on the comparison of the R50 and the less elegant solution of something like the Bushnell connected to an iPad and iPad connected via HDMI adapter(or wirelessly via screen mirroring or airplay) to a projector/TV. Wouldn't the later, all be it less elegant, be cheaper and potentially equally or more capable? No bending down...
Good stuff, I’ll make sure to answer some of these in the FAQ video
It requires stickers on your clubs
Wow….i think I’m glad I’ve been patient. I thought the Skytrack was gonna be my best option. I’m gonna be all in if they do add the club mapping or a wedge matrix like the Skytrack pro. I have to imagine it will. I feel like a kid that just added his top item to his Christmas list!!! Can’t wait! Hope they’ll be able to keep up with all the orders that will be coming in!! Great video as always. Look forward to seeing any updates that are headed its way.
i'm so excited about this launch monitor! i can't wait til your next video on this unit! seriously thinking of getting this one, since it will only require a projector! thanks for your hard work!
Doesn’t even need a projector haha
@@Evan_Rodgers You sure about that?
Great video as always. The R50 looks really, really good. I love the fact that a computer isn't required and that HDMI to the projector is a great idea. One thing that does seem very odd is that you don't get an average for your shots? Surely that's a massive oversight seeing as most people using a launch monitor would want to see an average after hitting x number of shots with specific clubs? No way would I want to have to record and calculate this myself!
I agree. I have to imagine, if Garmin watches this review, they'll add that in the next firmware update.
Nice for a indoor simulator, but not for me on the range. Too massive, as well as expensive. Still in awe with the Mevo+ I got last month to replace the old R10.
Really good review. 👍
Oh my! For the price and ease of use this might be for me. I plan on pulling the trigger on a launch monitor sometime next year
Thanks for the video. This thing looks amazing. I'm already way over my budget so sticking with an eye mini lite (hopefully on Black Monday). Looks like you must be in Tampa? The course you're playing in the video looks very familiar. ;-)
Just one minor thing... I love the touchscreen and the fact that this doesn't need a pc. However, it really might be more comfortable to just use my laptop on a stand next to my mat than having to squat down to select things on it.
What are the display options for projecting? 4:3 and 16:9? Is this unit upgradable? How is performance? How good is the putting?
Thx for the review!
Yes 4:3 or 16:9. Not upgradable. Performance and putting were great in my experience.
Thx Gabe, now you just made my decision even harder in which one to buy. 😂.
Like the idea of not having to buy a PC. Seems like a real advanced monitor, like you mentioned be nice to see averages.
How many courses do you get with it?
I’m a real fussy person want something I’m not going to be disappointed in.
Putting this price into CDN funds makes it’s pricey but there’s more expensive ones out there.
Thx for the review, will be watching for more.
43,000 courses on Home Tee Hero. Essentially every course in the world.
Would love to see the r50 and r10 side by side!
I think the PC being essentially integrated is a weakness. PC Tech moves forward much quicker than Launch Monitor tech.
I agree. It's useful for people who want an all in one solution and are happy with the default Garmin software, but let's be real here, you aren't going to be running GSPro on the device itself. You'd still need a PC.
I think the main advantage of this is you can bring it to anywhere without taking a PC, projector, screen with you. Normally it doesn't require very powerful processors to process ball/club data. But 3rd party app's data (graphics rendering, for example) might requires more and more powerful processors to get higher FPS.
Its certainly very cool, but speaking for myself, I rarely take my launch monitor anywhere. Maybe to the range every once in a while, but I'm not sure how practical it is for anyone who already has a sim setup. Maybe for new people wanting to get into this space, it's hassle free and easy to understand. For anyone who is already established, I doubt they would want to use home tee hero over gspro for example.
That being said, $5000 is not bad at all especially if you already understand the price of the competition. I think the folks saying this is expensive may not be exposed to the better launch monitors. I mean coming from an r10 which is under a thousand to $5000 is a crazy jump for sure.
@@SD-ff7nj It’s a Mobile Golf sim that’s simple and self contained , portable and Highly accurate. I’m sold!
I am going to guess you can still hook it up to your PC like other launch monitors
Living in the coldest country in the world, Canada, I usually play indoor from mid-November to end of March. I have tried all the sims and I have appreciated only one in the past 10 years. Trackman is the only simulator that I had fun playing 18 holes, the other ones were not realistic or the graphics looks like Wii console 1st gen.
This R50 looks great for a 5000$ sim.
You must live in nunavut...coldest country
@ I saw a video yesterday about the coldest country and I learned that we are #1. Canada is cold but 80% of the population lives near the US border where the temperature is not extreme. My climate is about the same as Vermont.
Great Vid - wow what a unit...it really has to link with the s70 watch somehow - share data back and forth - that would be so key! Whoever is spending this type of dough will appreciate that level of syncing ability
Nice review, thanks very much! I've got one question: I only have a practice net outside for practicing at home. In winter it's dark and I play with lights. Does a camera based system work in bad lighting or even darkness?
I like that it's an all in one launch monitor with its own screen. However, with it having a usb port on the back along with hdmi, is it possible to link to an iPad so you're not bending down to control it?
Can you connect this to an ipad or tablet to eliminate having to bend down to the screen?
Maybe from hdmi cable to tablet.
Thkx for the video I was waiting for this unit for a long time now. 😊,does it need wifi connection? If yes how..it own or else?
Cool product…but I think gspro is a far superior golf software. Yes, you can use gspro with the R50, but in order to use 3rd party software, you have to use a projector and a computer. That kind of defeats the purpose for me. I think for some this is an incredible golf monitor, but I think I’ll stick with my Mevo plus with the pro package and club face which easily supports left and right handed golfers.
Great review though! This will be a cool product for some.
Holy smokes, this is the one. I really wanted a Trackman for the impact data, but if this is accurate, it’s got what I need to improve.
Now I have to start breaking ground on the new “shed” out back…
So, I’m after an R30 it seems
This exactly. I already have a projector, laptop and GsPro. I don't want to go back to HTH. I want a rear mounted device with better accuracy. That is it. These type of devices are painful to people who have LH golfers in their group that play. Even for what it is, $5000 is really steep. $3,200 would have caught my eye. I am Canadian and this would be $7K for me. No thanks. I have way better options in that price point such as overhead systems. This is a nice device and I would love to have, but this is missing the market it should be going after.
R30? Or an r10?
@@brettbenton2408R30
@@brettbenton2408 R30
@@brettbenton2408 an R30
I think I just came in my trousses. Thank you Garmin!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the heads up... ??? RCT balls only, how big is the hitting area, monthly yearly charge to use it?
Is it rechargeable for the driving range? Or do you have to have a constant power source?
It has about a 6 hour battery life from what I could tell
Looks good, many features that are in higher priced Monitors, price seems reasonable if as good as you say....
They need to put some effort into the golf app! Get the ecosystem closer to arccos with integration to track practice on this device too
Looks like a true game changer! As a GC3 owner, while the hardware is very nice, the software side of Foresight is laughable at best. Their engineers seem like high school dropouts with the amount of bugs that exist with every software update.
This might be perfect for me if it works easily and consistently. I have a Launch Pro and use it mostly at the range. The device itself is great, but between the subscription cost, the connectivity problems, the slow and clunky interface, and the constant app crashes, I'm about fed up with the whole thing. Also, setting up the ipad I could do without. Look forward to seeing how it fares over the long haul. Definitely intrigued!
Great review. The unit is pricey but sounds like it is real good. I have a SKYTRAK + and it’s good but doesn’t have angle of attack which would be greatly helpful and I’m not sure how accurate the spin is.
This seems like a great unit, but as "mere mortal" 5k is really steep. Especially when the new Square with low end gaming computer will give you the same experience for WAY less than half the price.
Great review, but you didn’t mention how smooth it ran 3rd party softwares. I hear people say that if your PC isn’t fast enough, softwares like GS Pro are slow, so how does the R50 as a computer hold up in that respect? Is it fast and smooth enough to run GS Pro like a PC would?
Hey Garmin! Voice commands please!
I’m curious how well the 3rd party apps will run graphically.
How easy is it to switch between left and right handed players? I've heard the Square launch monitor can be moved back and forth if playing with plays of different handedness but I assume this would be way better if it is possible.
Integration with Garmins club sensors would be a great addition and solve the club identification in home tee hero
Would be cool indeed
Can it measure club speed without a ball......the R10 can and does, but doesn't allow the user to easily see that info for swing speed training/
well done, but too expensive! waiting for the R30 :)
Really great review! My question is is it worth saving the money from a QuadMax and get this? I’m looking to upgrade and have always wanted a GCQuad or QuadMax, but you can literally buy 4 of these R50s for the price of one of those. Also I have called and reached out to foresight multiple times and have not gotten any response, I’m literally trying to give them my money! Would you forgo the brand name hype and just save the money and go with one of these?
That is such a tough one. I think I have to withhold judgment until I do the side-by-side accuracy test. But from what I can see this is 99% of the accuracy of the GC4 with a lot more bells and whistles.
@ thank you for the reply and insight, really looking forward to that head to head!
I just bought a square launch monitor and think that is the best one ever. If they figure out the spin stuff and make a protective case for it then I can't imagine why anyone would spend $5,000 for a launch monitor unless you're a PGA pro
Uh, yeah, the SquareGolf LM doesn't measure swing speed, can't be used outside, has accuracy issues, and the driving range features boats. Don't get me wrong, SquareGolf looks good for what it does, but let's be real.
Great Video! Thanks for the info
Will the E6 app work in the unit itself instead of linking through the phone/ipad?
No, you'll have to have an external device for e6, GSPro etc.
Does that mean you could have all your club data on the R50 screen and mirror E6 to a projector? Would seem to be having your cake and eating it.
Great insight! Big Garmin fan. Would be interested in battery life and putting accuracy. Great videos as always. Thanks
I thought putting accuracy was as good as anything. Battery life was about six hours from what I could tell.
Battery life is approximately 4hrs
Gonna wait for the side by side accuracy. Look forward to it
Cool idea but it has some issues. It's not totally replacing a computer. You're going to be locked into these low res golf courses, with a PC you can get so much better quality courses with GS Pro. You can get a great gaming computer for $1,000. The thing is massive, you're never bringing that to a range, it's like bringing a desktop computer to a coffee shop.
Someone finally built the iPad into the LM. About time!
To test accuracy, go rent and 1-2 hours at a trackman suite. Trackman using only radar will not interfere with R50 inferred.
R30 without the PC but with the LM hardware and screen showing the LM data. $2K price, sold!
Subscribed and looking for all your content as well as much info regarding this platform by others. That being said, you did ask if we had any questions. I'll throw out there the obvious devil's advocate by asking - 1) what are the drawbacks to this platform? (not price) 2) With this system being touch screen and so low to the ground, all of us taller people with bad backs... youch, can this output to an iPad or another touch screen device that potentially be at standing level? 3) While I am just as excited about the idea that the device itself eliminates an actual gaming PC, What type of HDMI standard is supported? Most active HDMI cables cannot be more than 25 feet, a not very insignificant cost. $100. 4) can this device accept other camera angles for swing analysis, similar to the Uneekor Eye Mini or MLM2Pro? This system seems to be an awesome next generation swing monitor. Fingers crossed, hoping to enjoy more of your content.
WOW!!!! A new contender for my home sim (upgrade from the MLM2 Pro)…$5K USD , so roughly $7K CAD...
get trackman IO for 13k
It's actually $6749 cnd if you need exact numbers.
Gabe, any word / rumblings about an updated Garmin R10?
This R50 looks awesome, but an improved R10 would be more what I'm looking for (portability, price etc)
Great review.
The GC Quad will shut down if you set them up side by side. My Quad does it when set up next to my GC3.
Would be interesting to see how it reads compare to a Trackman?
Yes, exactly what happened to me. I like the trackman idea I think that’s the best bet.
Gabe...Great review..? Does this R 50 work for both right and left hand golfers?? Thanks...PS will it wokr well with out the stickers on the clubs???
Yes just needs to be moved to the other side.
I’ll be saving up for this
Wow, looks pretty good! The only thing i don't like are subscriptions...but cool launch monitor!
They are completely optional, but $99/year is about as cheap as you will ever find in this category.
I know that I'm probably in a slightly different situation than most but I have around 6 launch monitors (Garmin r10, rapsodo mlm2pro, skytrak, swing caddie sc4 and sc300i, etc.) because I like to try out new technology and have subscriptions on 4 of them so the subscriptions really start to add up, etc. I believe that the recently launched square launch monitor does not have a monthly subscription so that's nice to see and I'd like to see more companies take that approach (no pun intended)...
I'm saving up for spring.
Can you show the putting in more detail in a future video? Thanks for all of your work!!!
Yes you will see in the Home Tee Hero video
For GSPro users though, I assume you would still need a PC?
hopefully this will push garmin to update the app for the r10 as well, as it is needed badly.
It would be nice if this App gets upgraded with the R10… It will make Home Tee Hero amazing for the R10
It would be awesome, but honestly, I don’t expect to see that. Mostly because you need an phone or tablet to run R10 And it’s harder to render high-quality graphics on those devices. I also think they want this to be the premium product that stands apart. But we will shall see.
Hi,can you tell me what you get with the basic package. Thanks
Hey team, bot kuch info on this monitor atm, how many cameras is it using to measure? Also how is the battery life? A good test would be a radar unit vs it to avoid the close by interference. Unit has me genuinely excited
3 cameras, battery about 6 hours from what I could tell.
Great reviews best ive seen so far. Few questions do you need rct balls or do regular balks work . Can you plsy third party apps like e6 on the screen as its ios only also awesome golf . I think the ability to raise the screen would have been an amazing feature for those like me who use outside net
Regular balls work great. Third-party apps will require a PC. Hope that helps.
@@LetsPlayThruShame only Garmin home tee hero only works on it , would be brilliant if e6 awesome golf could work via same screen especially at 5k . So you need a pc for all the others apps I assume you mean iPad as this works with e6 and awesome golf ,wonder if they will update this as the unit is obviously capable
The price to me is bit high plus remember still need to buy projector ,hitting screen and mat but hey if you got that the $$$ cool 😎… me I got the raspodo unit set up 😁…. Keep up the nice work 👍🏽
Great review. Price really hard to justify for most. If I had one I’d find it hard to justify going to an actual course after laying out that much cash
Gabe, I probably missed this but how long was the battery life for outdoor range sessions?
great video :) i would really be interested in seeing the variation of club path and face to path compared to trackman or gc4. If they are accurate in this there's no doubt in buying this launch monitor in my opinion.
Would love to make that happen as soon as I can get another R50 to test.
As I'm currently well endowed with a lauch monitor and have reached the point where I hate hitting balls and only play golf courses, I'm wondering if the 43,000 stipulated courses at St-Georges de Beauce and Beauceville in Quebec Canada are part of the inventory.
This is the only condition that will allow me to acquire the Garmin R-50
Thank You for the answer
Alain Jacob
Talk to Garmin about adding Dynamic Loft to the R50. I am surprised that It was not included.
Are the driving range and practice areas free from subscription fees? And do you need the garmin subscription if you are going to use third party simulator software?
How big of space is the hit zone? Does it give you a laser pointer to place the ball? Is it easy to switch between lefties and righties?
Space is about 4” x 6” it seems. There is an ingenious way to align using 2 balls, but hard to explain without showing you (that is coming in an upcoming vid). Just like other side mounted units, to use with righties and lefties, You just simply move the device to the other side.
This looks ridiculously good
Absolutely …What’s the price in Australia?
@ not sure yet, guessing between $8k - $9k which is getting a little pricey even though it’s looks amazing and definitely worth the $$