New Yorker’s Won’t Buy EVs… Why?
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2023
- Only 1% of NYC Residents Own an EV, which doesn’t make sense. Lets find out why.
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If the government wants me to drive an EV, give me more of my paycheck back and I'll think about it. Otherwise, my 2008 antique gas guzzler is doing the job just fine.
Well in New York they don’t work but we have two in Arizona and I do get more of my paycheck back. I never go to a gas station Never change oil. Electricity at home is cheap. I haven’t been to a charger for over a year. I charge at home. The problem in nyc is as cask mentioned you can’t do that
How much tax do you pay?
EXACTLY. My daily driver is a 2009. I own it (no loan), it runs great, it gets me everywhere i need to go.
@@Chrisb8sNYC has some of the most expensive electricity rates in America
Or tell Biden in this administration to pay for it or that car dealer hustler at 0:19 in that fancy pink suit to pay for it 🤣👊🏾
Imagine trying to plug in while in NYC…it would be a nightmare!
especially where parking in a garage are charged at a crazy hourly rate i.e $20/hr
@@ascendantP wow, that’s absolutely insane!
i used to be charged 67 bucks for 2 hours parking, it is insane @@ascendantP
Same in Chi Town
This is true of major cities, you don't see a lot of EVS in Tokyo for the same reason, but for the rest of us that don't live in NYC, those factors dissapear
The fact that those cars have been fully charged for days and no one has came by and picked them up is crazy
It’s not crazy if you’ve ever worked for any level of government.
Thry need to add what teslas superchargers have, a $1/min idle fee
They're not fully charged.
6 days one car occupying the charging plug is crazy 🤯🤯🤯 abusing public infrastructure
It's good, it's perfect.@@karelp5358Now the wotldis watching.
I like how you explained people don't drive cars in new york because electric bikes have taken over and made transportation so much easier in a congested city.
A bike you can bring inside and plug into the wall is different from a car that needs specialized electrical equipment to charge is a big deal.
This is not a fact. I live in New York and our streets are filled with cars everyday and I own a car I’m on these roads everyday. I make a trip from north BK to flushing queens trust me there are more cars than bikes but the city is extremely congested. This change has been something developing over the past 10 years, and they’re trying to get people out of their cars example being : congestion pricing in manhattan. Nobody wants electric cars because most native NYERS don’t have time to find a charging station and go charge their car for more than 20 minutes. 5 minutes at a gas station in the morning will make you late
Don't you get abit cold, wet and sweaty on your bike.....But I guess NY needs more organ doners....
@@TruthBot1984 in my job, we have 30 cyclist who have been commuting on their bikes since the early 90's. We have around 1000 employees and had about 50 deaths since the early 90's. None from the cyclist, our organ donors are the motorist! They either fell a sleep while driving, drunken driving, driving too fast or got hit by another car. In 1980 my girlfriend died in a car. It's always the motor vehicles that kills.
@@767bob Aside from sleeping that's on them most drivers don't do that don't generalize most New York own cars all you have to do is look outside.
Hi. I’m an EV owner. I live in New York and worked in the city. One major ward off to possible EV buyers is insurance. I personally had heard potential buyer get their spot after waiting in line to buy one, to shy away from it after learning insurance is asking 3 to 5 time that of regular cars.
Indeed, cause of the high risk of 'em burnin up! 🔥 🔥
@@RandyHS. ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles got higher odds to go up in flame suddenly,. The only reason you feel EV go up in flames more often is that they make headlines unlike ICE vehicles.
@@charlolelsure. They are easy to put out. Not so for EV
repair parts for electric cars and the collision tech required from all those 1 piece castings used means EVs get totalled more often. @@RandyHS.
Are you sure you're comparing equivalent cars? My insurance didn't go up when I got my Tesla.
Every time I watch one of Cash’s videos I am left shaking my head and questioning why so many people want to live in NYC 🥺.
This is a hobby for many many people, looking down on NYC and telling people repeatedly that they don't understand why people live there.
@@Parker307😂😂😂😂. Observations yes. Hobby? Nah
I moved there to make money and left after five years. It was all I could take with the constant noise, car alarms, police, fire and ambulance noise all night long. Couldn't sleep much but the money was good and apartment prices were decent.
It's really not fair to single out NYC, look at all the other major cities, and a good deal of the minor ones as well, and tell me why people would want to live in any of those either.
Most people in NYC do not own a car. which is why this video is a little disingenuous. over 60% may want to do something about Climate crisis and guess what, they already do.. they walk or take the subway to work.
Instead of MANDATING by the government, is it better just let the consumers & the market to decide what is right for them???? What an insane idea right?! 😂
Yes
Liberalism/Progressivism/Socialism/Communism - one and the same - all lead to the government forcing people to do really, really stupid things that eventually and quite quickly destroys the nation. We are on the precipice of a complete collapse of our economy if we don't turn our economy back to fossil fuel based energy.
We need a new government. People don't want forced technology especially if it doesn't work better than current technology.
We need to make this change to stop global warming and it needs to be in the coming decades starting right now!
EV mandating is a scam. Only good for china.
Here are my reasons for not wanting to buy an EV.
1.) The lack of infrastructure that supports EV chargers
2.) The long wait times for charging as opposed to a gasoline powered vehicle. And this isn’t taking into account charging at home (which will increase your electric bill) but on road trips. 5 minutes to fill is a full tank as opposed to over an hour to charge a nearly dead EV.
3.) The prices are awful, sure you can say they’re terrible in general because of the car market, but even taking that into account, they’re more expensive an equivalent gasoline car.
4.) This one is purely personal but I love the sound of internal combustion engines.
Cash, your channel has come a long way from a NY real-estate curiosity to a brilliant, "All of NY's important issues" digest. This, with your excellent narrative and delivery. Kudos to you.
Agreed 💯. Combining the local news reports and interviews as a basis for addressing important issues affecting NYC. Cash, these are getting better and better. What a topic too. Who would have thought.
He's a PUTZ
Meh every city has BIG issues. His channel used to promote NYC now it seems to be working against it. I have unsubscribed :-(
@@oyvey764 Obviously you're impervious to facts, and no doubt do your thinking with your heart instead of your brains. Cash deserves credit because he is telling the truth about the city that he loves so much. Telling the truth is a rarity these days and should be encouraged not scoffed at because it hurts your feelings.
@@pheddupp thanks for your 2 cents. Cash is a cute fun guy who showed fun and often weird NYC apartments. He is the guy who was fascinated by a sink sprayer! if you want to sell a city, focus on the good stuff... the great stuff. EVERY city has it's share of issues. OF COURSE NYC has issues it is arguably THE city. We know the facts and realities of cities. It does not hurt my feelings LOL ... I simply do not think most of us have the DEPTH to be able to tackle those complex issues by making simplistic videos... it is equivalent to getting your news reading only headlines. That is all.
We live in the middle of nowhere Oregon. 30 miles to the nearest gas station. Hospital is 70 miles. County seat is 100 miles. We have no interest in an electric vehicle.
You’re an exception, not the rule (in terms of your living environment).
If you have a charging station at your house, and your car can do up to 300 miles, then whats the problem?
@@kevinstfortWhat percentage of vehicle owners live in apartments with no provisions for home charging?
Is your employer going to install enough charging stations in their parking lots to allow all the employees to charge their vehicles at work?
I live in a town of 200 people, not the same but there isn't a gas station in town. Nearest one is 20 miles away next town over. I really wanna get my hands on an EV so I could charge right at home, unlike in a city. Not having a gas station in town means an EV would solve the problem of having to take small trips just to get gas. I think i would still want to have a gas car since out here cars are king and you have to rely on them for everything- and I don't trust EV infrastructure. But for most things I do an EV seems like the better deal, especially if infrastructure for them keeps improving they would keep getting more useful.
@@rcud1 - Where i live its 110-115F outside in summer, Batteries do worse in Hot or cold and i have to run the AC. I doubt that the stated 300 miles will happen with a/c, headlights, loss of effeciency
Montreal, the city I live in has the same issue with chargers. We have ALOT of people that have no private driveway. I have no issues with buying an EV but charging it isnt so easy. The city is adding more and more chargers on the sidewalks, but its going to take a long time before EVs are going to be feasible for most people
The problem with sidewalk infrastructure is that the underlaying electric infrastructure isn't there in most cities - London UK's infamous exploding footpaths have all been overloaded electrical cables letting go (Just like in the movie "Brazil", only not being blamed on 'terrorists' - YET)
There are a lot of changes needed in the near future, including deploying at least 6 times more baseload electrical generation than currently exists
About 20 years ago, city planners in Washington DC, New York City and others decided to discourage people from driving and to use public transportation instead. Many residential buildings were build without enough parking places. As a result now many city residents have no place to charge an EV even if they wish to have one
You didn't mention city planners made deals with developers ...hint...hint
Like Cash pointed out, majority of cars in NYC are parked on the street. So, there is little to no way to charge an EV while it is parked. Charging at home is typically how most EV owners charge their EV. Parking garages at apartment buildings are so expensive that people are willing to get a parking ticket weekly than pay for a parking spot. NYC increased the fines for alternate side parking just for that. EV charging stations within the 5 boroughs are pretty much nonexistent at public spaces or where it's freely accessible. Those that exist are inside parking garages that you have to pay more than a tankful of gas on a regular ICE vehicle to access. With that Flo/PlugNYC curbside chargers the city is trying to pilot, it's not enough to charge the sheer number of EVs are already in NYC let alone allow for any growth in EV marketshare. TLC just allowed for rideshare drivers to register EVs in order to Uber and Lyft and over 9000 applications have been received. I'm just wondering how those drivers will deal with charging considering the current lack of infrastructure.
I can imagine that NYC car owners also only own a car in order to get out of town on vacations, going to more rural areas like the Hamptons or the Berkshires, which don’t have a lot of charging stations either. So the idea of buying a $60K car that you can’t use doesn’t make sense. In the future these condos and apartment buildings will have to offer charging spots. But it’s an extremely expensive thing to install.
Simple solution. Move out of the Suppurating Pustule on the Buttocks of America.
The city doesn't have the infrastructure for all electric cars.
@The_DuMont_Network Where you from buddy?
Simple they can put a gas generator in the trunk call it a hybrid that Would make more sense than all electric
The problem with those E-bikes is that some landlords wont allow you to keep them in the building anymore because of the fire hazard and they're also high theft targets.
Edited: to remove the "V" in EV
The horror stories from China about these electric bikes are awful.
The Munich professional fire department has assessed the fire risk of electric cars in garages as lower than that of combustion vehicles
My Tesla has an additional PIN CODE, which nobody can steal so quickly
@@ViennacatsNot cars, bikes. Different thing. Plenty of people buy cheap e-bikes.
@@whitestone4401first time hearing about it, how are they failing?
I have a friend who works for the DMV in North Carolina, not only do you have to pass a state inspection, pay registration AND property tax (yes, vehicles are considered property in NC) YEARLY but you also have to pay a $150 EV fee YEARLY as well
That is because they lose tax revenue when evs don’t buy gas
Lucky folks in North Carolina. Here in New Zealand, from April the standard Road User Charge ("RUC") becomes payable on all EVs. Priced at $76 per 1,000 km (about 600 miles). So a driver doing just 10,000 km or 6,000 miles per year, will have to pay $760 in RUC "kilometre fees". If you drive 20,000 km (or 12,000 miles) per year, your RUC will be $1,520 . Make sure you buy your kilometre allowance in advance because if a cop pulls you over and you're overdue, you get fined double the amount owed, plus you still have to pay what you owe. Note that Diesel small vehicles, passenger cars and utes and vans, (upo to 3 and a half tonnes) also have to pay the same level of RUC, that EVs will soon have to pay.
@@KiwiCatherineJemmaThat’s crazy!! New Zealand must be mostly left leaning. The left just loves their regulations and taxes!! At least that’s how it is in the USA. I thought the left was supposed to help the poor and middle class 😢😢.
@@laikanbarth Thanks for your comments. Yes NZ is a unique country in many ways, and although politics vary, we probably don't have as large a left vs right divide, compared to the USA. (So our 2 main political parties are probably "closer together" than the USA's).
With a land area about the same as Wyoming State, we are rather isolated in a corner of the South Pacific. Our nearest neighbour, Australia, is over 1,000 miles (1,600 km) away at the closest point.
Indeed it wasn't until the mid 1800's that NZ became its own nation. Before that we were a part of the New South Wales Colony of Australia.
Until the 1970's, people could fly between Australia and NZ by just showing the old type, non photo, paper driver's licence. Even now, we have the automatic right to live and work, retire, and use the free healthcare in either country.
Historically the governments here in NZ tried to help local manufacturing and businesses with various quotas and taxes on imported good for example. We are at the very end of a long supply line. We are, now, especially vulnerable to problems with oil imports.
Traditionally we were a big farming and forestry nation, but things like sheep shears and saw mill blades, would originally have to be imported from overseas. Previously subsidies would have helped some industries thrive here, helping to service farming and forestry industries.
Now tourism is big. We have a lot of land set aside in various National Parks and Conservation areas.
NZ Climate ranges from Temperate in the South (think like Coastal Washington State) through to almost Subtropical in the North (similar Coastal South Carolina maybe?). cheers !
@@joannyesia7460 They tried to levy that fee on the Prius when I lived in NC. Sorry NC, but the early Prius didn't plug in and got all of its energy from Gas. They had to rescind the fee.
Lol!!! Climate change support does NOT equal EVs. 7 YEARS WORTH of CO2 driving CONDENSED to make 1 EV. Vs a gas car that runs reliably, fills up in 4 mins, and YOU HAVE PURE OWNERSHIP of your car vs. EV's where every minor issue demands RETURN TO VENDORS
Curbside charging is very problematic in NYC and other large cities. The chargers are made from Aluminum, copper, and steel -all very desirable metals that can be easily sold for scrap. Cordless angle grinders can quickly cut through these metals. Most U.S. cities are currently "soft on crime” which encourages theft.
YOU just encouraged theft with this posted info......although you did it unknowingly
I live in a mountain area that can get very cold weather and significant snowfall. EV's suck in snow and cold.
I was actually thinking about getting an ebike. I used to ride bicycles, but due to being disabled, I can no longer pedal. I gave up that idea, because I have no safe place to put it. They need to be kept quite some distance from, well, pretty much everything. I have no desire to burn my house down. So I bought a 1970s gas powered 2 stroke pedal moped. Lithium ion batteries are time bombs. They are going up in flames all over the world. hundreds of thousands of them. And if one bursts into flames in or close to your house, guess what? Bye bye house.
My Gas guzzler V6 got me 7 hour straight on road and some fuel for visiting around my destination, filled again for returning, and home safe 😁
Why I purchased another 2023 gas guzzler 4x4 pickup. But then I live in Texas so having a pickup is mandatory. 😅
Up here in Canada the base model f150 lightning is $61,000 before taxes. If you want the extended battery pack it’s $78,000. If you finance the thing, it’s 84 months at 7% interest so it will be over $100,000 Canadian. The top spec Lightning is $117,000 before taxes and extra fees and financing costs.
Way too expensive.
@@DONNELLxOKAFORit's Canadian dollars, about $87K USD. Still too much for what's supposed to be a work truck.
That’s nuts! Salesman offer a BJ at least?
stupid dealership markup factored in this calculation or not yet.
And you still have not calculated the government subsidies (which we are paying for) into the cost of the vehicle. Subsidies which are NOT given to gasoline powered vehicles.
@@davidherdman9798The government massively subsidizes the oil and gas industries. If they aren't passing those savings on to you, then that sounds like something you should write to your representative about.
Like I've been saying, if you live in the 'burbs and have a garage, EV's are for you. You can charge at home. However, if you live in the city, in an apartment/condo, you can't charge at home, and need to find a public charger. It would be insane to go 100% EV!
Only a literal illiterate penniless immigrant from the 3rd world would choose an American city over a large house with land in the suburbs.
An EV parked in the driveway of a home in my son's neighborhood caught on fire, entire home was destroyed. This was North Florida.
@@rosanneshinkle4133 Thank you! I mean, the world was freaking out over hoverboards and their batteries exploding a couple of Christmases ago when that was the latest trend in toys...EV cars are the latest dangerous toys.
In Europe 30% of all parking spaces are on-street. If we deduct commercial spaces which are not really for long term residential parking its like 50% of ALL cars in Europe park on the street. EVs at this point are not real means of transport for at least half of Europe.
Condos will soon have charging when demand increases, or charge when you go shopping, at work, watching you kids sports etc.
I've heard one potential major issue with charging stations in cities is the materials (like copper wiring) being stolen and/or damaged, further reducing charging options.
It is a thing. Thieves will even go to people's driveways and cut the cables to get the copper from them. On the other hand, if you have a gas car, people can steal your catalytic converter.
The only real way around this is to not leave things unattended. Put a floodlight in your driveway, charge in your garage, or don't leave the charger on the car all night, unplug it before you go to bed, etc.
Why would I want such a large paper weight? In the temperatures here, I would do nothing but charge the car. I would also have to have a phone number to a taxi service to bring me home.
One thing you missed is insurance gets expensive for charging inside buildings. Because when the batteries catch on fire there's no way to put them out. So, even if you live with an attached garage you could set your whole house on fire and insurance companies won't pay up. Australia is already seeing this problem.
Decent charging systems detect overheating batteries (or rapid temperature changes) and disconnect everything - My 15 year old Mitsubishi iMiev (The _original_ modern EV) does it
Most lithium fires are small packs with shitty BMSes - if they have battery management at all
An experiment was done where an EV car was buried in a ditch filled with dirt and water... then the battery pack was set on fire. The car burnt for several days, no oxygen is needed for the fire as the lithium batteries produce their own. That's why its tough to put it out.
I don't want that in my drive way or anywhere near my house.
@@BillClinton228 Try that with LiFePo4 packs. There's a reason they're taking off despite the slightly lower energy density
This is also why BMS units are so paranoid about energy management. Cars don't just spontaneously go up by themselves
If you live a fast paced life, you can't waist more than 10 minutes to fill up your car.
For me a hybrid that I really enjoy is Honda Fit e:HEV. The gas engine is often used for charging the battery, and sometimes work in tandem with the electric motor when your driving condition demands it. I still go to gas pump but the milage you get out of this car is super good (around 61 mpg). So I drive mostly on electric power (I'm mostly in city), no range anxiety, and no need for charging infrastructures. Best of both worlds. The only downside: I wish it packed more power, and bit more luxury. I don't live in NYC (maybe it has a different name is the US market?) but I think this car could work very well over there. Is it sold in NYC? Anyone knows?
Hybrid Fit??? Are those sold in the US??
regular Honda Fit went away because of lack of demand. We have one, they are cute and get great gas mileage. Don't know about the hybrid version.
Cash I am loving these New York life video essays. You’re knocking it out of the park! Thank you 🎉
My family recently took a roadtrip from Denver to Santa Cruz, CA. Somewhere in the middle of the desert, between Las Vegas and Bakersfield, we pulled over for gas. My wife asked, "Is this a Tesla dealership?" As we looked around, one end of the parking lot was filled with at least 80 Teslas, all waiting for a spot at one of the few charging stations (maybe 8?). There did not seem to be any organized queues, so I can only imagine the arguments that ensued as people jockeyed for a spot in line. We pulled away 7 minutes later with a full tank of gas, while all the Teslas were still waiting for a spot. Obviously, it takes a long time to develop infrastructure for a new technology, and that does not yet exist for EVs. Also, it took two solid days to drive from Denver to Santa Cruz. If every EV recharge required an extra 1-3 hours, this might very well turn into a 3-day trip, requiring an extra hotel night each way.
Ev infrastructure is just asinine. #1 batteries should NOT be their main energy source, they should hook onto an electric rail while on the hwy and main routes wich would charge your battery and battery would only be used on the side streets off the main roads. #2 all batteries should be universal and as easy to change out as my Dewalt drill. U shouldn't sit and wait for a battery to charge you should go to a filling station and change out your empty battery for a full one just like you do with a propane tank.
@mattmatt6572 Hook onto an electric rail…. presumably on the shoulder… where cars and trucks pull over due to an accident or emergency, or law enforcement interactions take place.. Surely you have given that idea much thought. 🙄
@@thedevilandhertrumpets4268 their you go assuming I was thinking more like center of the road but think directly below vehicle like a slot car maybe good also. Hey I'm not building the idea just an idea lol not a bad one though in my opinion.
That would have made a great video.
Man - Tesla EVs charge up in 3 to 13 minutes on Tesla superchargers. Your numbers are very outdated.
It already takes like 30 minutes trying to find a parking spot. Imagines trying to find somewhere to charge your accord and waiting there
New yorl shluld adopt small displacement 125cc motorcycles honda grom, honda trail 125. Small enough you can fit it in an apartment elevator but gets 100 mpg. Electric bikes cost a lot and for the same price you can get a nice trail 125. The trail 125 is a generation of small scooter-like motorcycles and you pay 4k for one and they hold their value even ones from before i was born are atill holding their value in the 3k range so you can own them for life and they will barely deflate in value if you dont beat them to junk at least
I’m glad
to hear nyc officials are aware of the problem(s).FYI Canadian officials must be too but they’re pushing ahead with a ridiculous edict to ban new car dealers/car companies from selling ice cars!With regard to running an extension cord across the side walk I’m sure tort lawyers will like that idea too when someone trips over the cord.And Will condo boards OK EV chargers (or even parking indoors) when they experience their first thermal runaway blaze?Will their insurance company cover that risk on the property?I remember thinking you need a degree of common sense when you are in charge of a city/ state /country.Boy was I wrong
Sadly common sense takes second seat to kickbacks and corruption.
Dude your research and reporting is better than most media...keep up the good work.
I like Cash, but EV sales are way up in the US this year… which means his reporting here is terrible.
@@mileswade5523 🤣
@@mileswade5523I know absolutely no one that has bought an EV and have heard of pushback from buyers to the government that is trying to tell us that we have to buy EVs. I won't be: don't care that insurance companies will stop insuring non EVs and don't care that I won't be able to legally plate it bc no insurance. I will join the others that are awake and already pushing back against Bumblyfuck Bidens ridiculous dictator rules
@mileswade5523 -and, he got some details very very wrong. Can't charge a Lightning at a Supercharger anywhere on that route
@@mileswade5523Tesla's market share has fallen to 50%, which is the lowest on record, and down from nearly 65% in the same quarter last year.Nov 17, 2023
Cash I'm happy to see you use a lithium charging bag, that should be talked about more as of risk of fire is higher on the cheaper bikes. But massive credit to you for knowing to safely charge your battery.
I could never go without my car for 100 hours. What a privilege that must be
One problem I used to face was even if the garages do have chargers they charge you twice. Nice to get into the garage and also the high cost of the charging itself. Which makes it very impractical
The city is now saying lithium ion batteries from e-bikes and scooters are the #1 cause of fire deaths in the city and is asking residents and migrants not to leave their batteries charging overnight unmonitored.
Cheap, poor quality or damaged betteries etc. What I noticed that cheap e-vehicles and batteries lack charging protection modules - they are very costly, up to around 30-50% of small battery.
So when do you charge it 😅
@@DeRussellMasina Good question. Presumably when you can keep an eye on it. I don't own e-anything but for some odd reason got not one but two emails last week from employers regarding "lithium ion battery safety" in NYC. Out of boredom I read them despite that I despise e-bikes already as an "analog" cyclist.
Just to clarify, batteries in EVs are incredibly safe. EVs are according to Teslas data 11x less likely to be involved in a fire incident.
This goes for any lithium device these days.
I can afford to have a car in the city, but the parking headache is enough for me to not bother. I can't imagine the nightmare of having to find a leprechaun to charge an EV on top of all that.
Thanks for sharing this video topic. Makes sense to stay with at least hybrid or reg fuel driven engines.
Enjoyed this video. Fun, informative and well presented. Came here via other EV videos. Subscribed to this one only. 😁
I live in NYC. I'm in Brooklyn and literally the only place to charge my Tesla is at the Barclays center and its only 72kw and you have to pay to exit the parking lot. It's ridiculous considering this is NYC.
Why would you buy an EV in NYC?
@@TheGamingAudiophileto save the planet.
@@TheGamingAudiophile I like the fact that it has no maintenance and it's performance. Along with the fact that I drive a lot and the mileage doesn't seem to affect the car in the same way it would an ICE car.
@@Sven989buying an ev won't help that, mainly because humans are incapable of destroying a planet.
Ever price battery replacement?@@gregthesplintercell
As I’ve been watching your channel on the regular since September, there’s two true things I’ve learned about NYC. NYC just doesn’t have the structure built to sustain itself anymore and doesn’t have the means to rebuild thanks to all the red tape.
Go Democrats hahaha, but I doubt Republicans can do any better, this is a structural weakness for EVs
@@threelowlysrepublicans don't want EVs We are happy with gas guzzlers.
New York City has been falling behind since the advent of the Great Depression: first the lack of money, then World War 2, then Robert Moses, then the financial crisis and the year in hell, then maintenance catch-up, and now construction costs inflated into outer space by red tape and administratium.
@@edwardmiessner6502Seriously? America has been THE richest contry since 1940s. Eastern European cities were in ruins after WWII- literally - while America got rich on war exports.
@@threelowlys Move upstate where Republicans rule. Also, free parking.
thank you for your great videos, you're doing a great job out there in NY !!
Very nice documentary. F1 pilot suit and New York wind chill had a good laugh 😂
You need motorcycle grade wind suit for winter. Also, NYers park their cars for long periods of time and EVs lose their charge.
Or... it''s a bike just pedal some
Utter garbage. Even if you leave an EV for a month, it will only lose around 25. Where do you people get this crap from?
@@Leslie-wb8cb Gasoline volume does vary do to temperature, that's why it is sold at "Net 60". FWIW
Only Rivian loses 2-3% charge per day. All other EVs don't lose any charge or very tiny amount
@@Leslie-wb8cbthis is only Rivian that has this problem. All other EVs don't do this. Tesla does lose a tiny bit but not much.
Where are they going to charge them? Apt owners can’t charge overnight.
Don't worry, EVs in NYC are for the wealthy. Apt dwellers don't get cars anymore. 15 minute prisons for the masses.
Yep. Serious drawback.
I can but I have an off street parking lot with charging stations. I can also charge at work. So I know I’m one of the very few lucky ones with this setup but if you have that setup, an EV is leagues better than a gas car.
@@taylorlibby7642 In the middle of a parking lot presentation to CAR DEALERS, the ev sales lady spilled the beans that the ev's are "5% Electric & the rest is gas." ?JOE&CO ARE MAKING THE $$! It's like the $$ they make from overseas oil instead of pumping our own Pres Trump started.
If electric is so great why doesn't the us army use electric for all thier equipment. They should build electric tanks and helicopters.
The reason why I don’t buy an electric car is because I don’t wanna be driving and be worrying about my range and having anxiety about the car turning off and dying with electricity. I want a vehicle that has a large range like 350 to 400 mile range. Also something that I think about is if there was an apocalypse or there was some kind of natural disaster. It’s a lot easier to get gasoline than it is to find an electricity, that’s why my next car is going to be an Audi Q8 not an Audi Q8 E Tron
Teslas estimate range pretty well, ive no range anxiety with it
Good thinking
There are EVs with 400 or 500 mile range if you want to drive a large vehicle. But I don't see the point. My gas car has about a 240 mile range, same as many EVs. If you can charge at home (i.e., you have your own driveway), it will always be topped off. You can't do that with a gas car.
In some kind of emergency situation, you're dependent on international trade to get gasoline. There have been times in not too distant memory (i.e., the 1970s) where American fuel pumps ran dry because of international politics.
With an EV, if you have a house with solar panels, you have all the electricity you want. OPEC doesn't control your fuel supply. Even if you brought portable solar panels with you on your emergency trip, you could get some power slowly.
An emergency where the power goes out is a lot more likely than an emergency where you have to drive 500 miles. If you're worried about like hurricane evacuations, I guess. But gas stations are packed or empty when that happens. Many modern EVs can be used as a giant emergency battery and provide power to your whole house or if you need electricity when camping.
So I'd say that EVs are much more off the grid, especially if you get solar panels on your roof. You're not dependant on nothing going wrong in the Middle East or the whole system of refining down to the truck delivering gas to your local station. You just plug in and charge.
@@photon3999 Good thing there haven't been any issues in the Middle East in the last 50 years. It's great to be totally dependent on them. I'm sure nothing will ever go wrong again.
EV's are great for people who have consistent access to a charger and don't generally drive long distances, but the overall infrastructure is nowhere near ready for the adoption levels the government is pushing for. I used to live in a neighborhood that was purely street parking and an EV would be incredibly impractical to own while living there. There are a few Tesla stations in my area, and about 10 regular EV chargers at my local mall, but that's about it. I can't imagine the chaos if people were forced to buy them.
"Generally dont drive long distances"? How about NEVER drive long distances. Id never want to be stuck driving an EV long distance even once in my life.
In a neighborhood with purely street parking you'll be better off with a hybrid or a plugin hybrid.
@@frontiervirtcharter unfortunately they aren’t allowed either. After 2030 all new vehicles sold have to be 100% electric.
Ripping the Earth for the Rare Minerals to make the batteries and the charging involved there is no green out of the deal it's about control wake up
It will never be ready. The power requirements for charging so many cars in a big city are enormous. It is impossible to achieve it.
I live in the UK and there is the same issue in every town and city in this country with a lack of charging, especially in older properties without dedicated parking. The world has been built one way for decades & we cannot change overnight. Issue with the e-bikes however, seems to be the number of house fires being caused by battery charging.
Thats what happen when people buy cheap chiness ebikes...
@@charlolelThey are ALL Chinese eBikes! 😂
@@ENCXBG1 Not all of them are cheap. Cheap ebikes use cheap batteries making the odds of a fire far higher if something goes wrong.
@charlolel That's my point. Being Chinese doesn't make them bad. They're all Chinese. Building them poorly makes them bad. Even then, there have been many spontaneous lithium fires in top brand products.
Even with the huge UK receptacles and ground wire?
Well, here in Bayonne, across the river, there are plenty. Our residential community has chargers in every garage, and the tenants are taking advantage.
You have phenomenal charisma. Glad I found your channel!
TYPICAL NEW YORKERS -
telling others to use EV while they don't
New York people are not brightest people in the world to begin with when it comes to everything in life
Finally, someone actually talks about charging for non homeowners. Even those of us with a home may have more cars than room in the driveway.
Yes, but at least if it's your house you have more options. You can move the cars around or drape an extension out for lower power.
Nobody feels bad for you bud
You can charge at a fast charger, or Tesla will unlock their charging infrastructure for all EVs
Cash, LOVE your uploads whether you talk available apartments or current culture, you know what's up and you know how to communicate to your audience. No pretense, simply clear straight talk. Thank you for being involved in our world situation.
New Yorkers aren't buying pickup trucks anymore either because What ???
@@davejagodzinski7817Because of the same reason Parking.
@@davejagodzinski7817 but guess what we buying…. We buying smart cars… that can fit in any spot….
Maybe the Governor should take notice as she is hell bent on having EV's the only cars in NYS. I live upstate and finding an EV charging station is very rare. I did see a Ford Lighting PU parked in the town parking lot (visitors only, charger for employees only) It had a town label on it, so the state will be insisting that all government vehicles be EV's. School buses, plow trucks etc. Amazon here has some electric vans but they are local and don't travel very far. The Amazon guy told me his brother has a EV and looking to sell it, What bothers him, is on a trip he isn't sure if the charging station even works, he has found many chargers are out of order!
@@iworkout6912 Very well Written.
NYC lacks the needed charging infrastructure, as so many people live in older apartments that aren't set up to install chargers, and so much NYC parking is on the street. Right now there is literally one Tesla Supercharger in Southern Brooklyn, and it's always packed at virtually all times of day. So charging takes 90 minutes. Add on much higher insurance, it's pretty crusty all of a sudden.
There's plenty of EVs here in Suffolk county though, where people have larger suburban homes and can easily install a level 2 charger.
Hey! I said it last year during the flood that "NYC needs more EVs!"!!!
Would I be the only one to feel uncomfortable if I knew someone was charging large lithium batteries inside in the apartment next door?
yes you are. now home made/cheap electric bikes and the cheap electric kick scooters should make you nervous as they have a horrific statistic of bursting into flames and people are dragging them or their batteries up to their apartment today.
oh also, you and everyone else are already charging lithium batteries in phones and they are powerful enough to start a fire and burn down a house.
@@randomrud Even a mishandled tea candle can start a major fire, but considering the questionable product safety standards of the largest lithium battery manufacturing country, I'd rather not sleep next to them.
@@BonannoCM Exactly, especially if its a Chinese EV model. Those things go up like a roman candle.
@@dragonace119 and US made tesla are burning every week in the US
One of the major car rental companies was doing a "Manager's Special" that turned out to be an electric car. It wasn't always evident to the renter, which led to some very upset customers. It's one thing if you own an EV and you're doing a road trip, but imagine renting a car and suddenly being saddled with having to plan where to charge. Unfamiliar car, unfamiliar route? No thank you!
Me too I hate high-end for a good price.!!! And on top of that who really wants a firsthand educated view on what they spew! !!! ?
@@davejagodzinski7817 a Tesla is the opposite of high end. High tech* there I fixed it
@@phillipvelednitskiy6881 As I understand it, the rental problem was neither high end nor high tech; it was one of the tiny Chevy EV's, I believe. Still, not a palatable option for 4 adults on a 1,500 mile road trip.
I was looking for a rental car last summer for road trip… Found a Tesla even cheaper than a Toyota Corolla… and I still went for the Corolla 😂
This happened to me and it was a nightmare. I will never do that again. An EV with no clue how to charge it and looking for charging stations.
The problem is New York doesn’t have anywhere to put a charging network. There’s too many buildings and most Tesla chargers are by shopping centers/plazas etc.
NYC has to put chargers underground or in parking for building residents.
You can’t be in nyc on a low battery. You’d have to go to new Rochelle w(my hometown) which has ONE charging center In the entire town despite being the closest city to manhattan outside of manhattan.
If you’re in a 10% battery in nyc you basically have to cross the bridge to go to New Jersey just to charge.
There's nothing wrong with having EVs on the market, the problem is the government forcing people to buy one.
sounds like somebody hasn't read the Lorax in awhile..
100%
Love the deeper dive about NY and not just real estate, housing... thanks! 🕊
Nyc has soo many problems almost like theirs no bottom. Most created from giving up your rights
I have a EV and while I've been very happy with it, if I didn't have consistent places I could easily charge, I wouldn't have gotten it. If I lived in NYC, I very likely wouldn't even have a car since public transportion is very good. I'm not surprised that EV adoption isn't high in NYC. You need more public chargers across the board for it to be feasible, especially for those who don't have a way to charge at home.
9 of 10 rapists and murderers rate NYC public transportation as top notch.
Yeah but almost at 0 percent, you pull into a station, plug in, run in and grab a coffee, come out 3,5 to 4 minutes and now you are 100 percent fully charged, you wouldn't need to spend the extra money for a charger when you can charge in the sam amount of times it takes to fully fuel a gas car. Range? 500 miles,.,
It really is amazing, the Munchausen like glee with which EV try to promote their vehicles, preferring to ignore the realities and liabilities of EVs, which, if implemented on the grand scale they project would be toxic for the environment and for the economy.
@@carlsmith5545 That's a dream. There isn't even a theoretical hypothesis of a battery to do that that isn't actual capacity of 400% of what it is derated to. If you double, triple, quadruple the actual capacity of the battery, it can absorb the 1/4 of actual capacity quickly, unfortunately it would double the size of the vehicle just to carry the enlarged battery, larger battery cooling system, more protection because it would be 4 times the disaster if it burned.
Dream on . @@carlsmith5545
Great time for tire manufacturers. On those heavy EVs they wear out extra fast.
In the middle of a parking lot presentation toCAR DEALERS, the ev sales lady spilled the beans that the ev's are "5% Electric & the rest is gas." ?JOE&CO ARE MAKING THE $$!
In the middle of a parking lot presentation to CAR DEALERS, the ev sales lady spilled the beans that the ev's are "5% Electric & the rest is gas." ?JOE&CO ARE MAKING THE $$! It's like the $$ they make from overseas oil instead of pumping our own Pres Trump started.
Ya , get stuck in the midtown tunnel , or major Deegan. Route 80 in Pennsylvania will often have an ecar on the shoulder . Ecars operators driver slow and get in the way , due to range anxiety for conservation of their coal juice
Europe made it a point to ensure new Iphones meet a standard to make charging easier but politicians around the world seem to have dropped the ball on standardizing how EV's charging to make it aligned with how combustion cars.
Indeed. There needs to be a standardised universal way of charging vehicles. However the use of this technology is so fresh I doubt it would be a good idea to do that now. Unforeseen problems will inevitably arise. Best is to let early adopters do their thing and make the mistakes so the rest of us don’t at a huge scale.
Wish I could give you more than one like.
Europe uses the German "Mennekes" standard, except for the very early Japanese cars like the Nissan Leaf which uses Chademo standard.
The EU and Australia have standardised on CCS for EV charging. That big, chunky connector can do single-phase and three-phase AC in the top part, and high-voltage DC in the bottom extra pins. That's everything you need as far as connecting to the car goes.
Cash Jordan going from being the best NYC real estate channel to also being the best unbiased NYC news source.
The bias is blatant
This channel is very clearly biased to get views. While NYC is not the best in the USA it is not bad like news make it to be. I think the best city in the entire world is Minneapolis but NYC is not bad at all.
This is clearly opinion / commentary, not news. Don't confuse the two.
It's an imaginary problem!!! Gas station =1000 cars moving around a corner and leaving.
Ev charger= hours of backup!!!
EV's are not as environmentally friendly as the media makes them out to be. Charging is a serious issue in the city and they lose range the colder it gets. And lets not forget that they consume a ton of power and NYC has power issues in the summer during heat waves. All those EV's and electric stoves are going to cause super serious issues to NYC's power grid.
When you can charge your car in 5 minutes in Pontotoc Texas, I'll think about it. Maybe a gas/electric hybrid next time, that technology always made more sense to me.
Toyota said the same thing about hybrids and doubled down on hybrid production. Apparently, they were criticized for focusing on hybrids instead of pure EVs, but they're getting the last laugh.
Hybrids are the solution. I have a plug-in hybrid and haven’t filled the gas tank in 4 months.
@@ENZ2103toyota always gets the last laugh😂🎉
But will it still make sense once oil runs dry?
@@Brian-om2hh you will have far....FAR bigger problems than your car when the oil runs dry.
First a foremost being having enough food without petrol fertilizers and industrial agricultural equipment.
M8 had an electric car for 6 months and half way through the insurance company rang him to say that they had to re-access the policy....which tripled overnight....and he took it back to the dealership and bought a diesel car
That was one persons experience, it was their own crappy insurance, they shoud have checked others, millions have EV's and they dont have THAT problem
@@devilselbow How dare anyone LIE about EVs! - Fixed that for you. Now, go get a clue, man.
This is what will kill the EV, insurance. Next will be the banning of charging EV'S indoors.
The EV owners are delusional if they don't think insurance companies will be all over this problem with fires. It's only a matter of time. The truth about EVs is being exposed more everyday. The EV industry should have shut Elon up a long time ago.
@@HobbyOrganist Pls advise Your source for statistics concerning insurance policies for EV'S ? Insurance / premiums on ICE vehicles is bad enough. I have doubts about insurance policies being equal or even LESS expensive on an EV than an ICE vehicle.
On top of that, an EV takes between 75 - 85 000 miles before it starts overtaking an ICE vehicle in terms of emissions and being carbon neutral, counting from manufacture.
The expenses linked to commercial fast charging are excessively high. It seems that these pricing models are built on the presumption that the average American consumer might face challenges in accurately calculating or understanding these expenses. Moreover, the costs associated with parts and the increased labor required for repairs contribute to elevated car insurance prices.
Exactly! Electric cars are okay if you have a garage to park the car in and charge it overnight.
How anybody selling electric vehicles can’t see that is beyond me. 🤪
Now imagine thieves going around stealing all the charging cables for the metals. 🤔
Nice report 👍🏻
And the fact that EVs really aren’t green.
I agree, 100% I have been drving electric cars for almost 6 years now. my wife and I both have one and we share one charging cable. her car charges fast because she hardly drives anywhere, I charge mine overnight. In our garage. I haven't used a charger outside the house since a short jaunt to los angeles and back from Phoenix last year and that was seemless.
@@faheemabbas3965 For me it would be more of a cost effient decision than green / not green.
If it would be much cheaper , I may consider it even if it is less convenient
And at least here in germany electric vehicles are still much more expensive compared to cheaper normal car.
Why do u think Elon musk not embracing south Africa
oh wow, you mean because they don't have to use gas that takes energy to pull from the ground our ocean, and then transport to a refinery, then use energy to refine that into a useable gas that then needs to be trucked to a gas station to be pumped by an electric pump into an inefficient motor? seriously@@faheemabbas3965
Apparently “Charge Rage” is a real thing.
Charge rage, range anxiety...saving the planet is getting dangerous 😒
missing gasoline smell rage!
EV in south Colorado don't sell, why, extreme cold kills the batteries fast, expensive regerstrations, 1000 per year, and cost of 38000 to 100000 grand no way!
Will the charging stations still working, when there's a power outages?
We all know the answer 😅
If one car can take out an entire dealership, a fleet of cars on a boat, or a building or parking garage, inevitably, it will become uninsurable.
You don't like storing an exothermic bomb in your garage? Geee never thought safety would be so ignored. Samsung screwed up batteries n they have best tech...
So they can't insure Gas cars? Interesting point.
@@davidbeppler3032 An ICE-only vehicle not only has never done that in all of history, they aren't capable because they dont burn hot enough to melt concrete, and they can be put out. Not to mention, they can't catch fire with the ignition off. Try harder fanboy.
those kinds of fires are rare, the ones you see on fox news are chinese made EVs catching fire in china, not in america, EVs are extremely safe from fires
@@mmoarchives2542Two recent NYC fires took out whole blocks.
I am so IMPRESSED at how you have now become a NYC story teller! You have the “IT” factor!! Really hope that you succeed in some type of NEWS VENTURE !!
I was raised on East 102 st. in the 70’s. I now live in GREAT LAKES, IL. When I watch you… I don’t miss NYC! But I enjoy your FACTS!!❤
There'a a gas station 1/2 miles from my house. No waiting, just pump & go in 5 minutes, then drive 300 miles. And repeat.
I'll take the charging stations being a bit rarer in exchange for no oil changes, no being chained to gas prices, no new oil filters or spark plugs, and I usually charge at my house anyway. My tesla also has a range of 330 miles.
@@snap__shotoil change, spark plugs, air filters are done once every 3 months and takes less than 1 hour and doesn’t cost much. Teslas also break but unlike gas cars you can’t just take it to any mechanic to fix it and repairs are much more costly.
@@snap__shotalso you are chained by eletricity prices and those go up a lot. And I always find it weird when Tesla owners complain about gas prices when their teslas costs 10k more than a regular gas car like a Camry.
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No way am I driving an EV with the round the clock traffic in NYC! The anxiety I’d feel stuck in traffic with 2% is unimaginable. Even if I were able to just make it past the traffic on low battery, I’d still have to worry about the amount of time I waste finding parking.
Same thing if u r running out of gas.
@@hapaboy8967 2% gas is a hell of a lot more range than 2% battery. A gas tank holds 500KWH of energy. A BEV battery holds 50KWH of energy when full. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
A lot of parking garages in the city also don't allow Level 1 or Level 2 charging while parked. Others don't even allow you to park with an EV due to insurance liability and some specific EV models have also been banned from parking.
You also forgot to mention that electric charge vehicles have batteries that can potentially explode, same with e-bikes. And landlords are refusing to allow their storage in the buildings.
I changed the battery in my Amazon Fire and accidentally poked a hole in the old battery, man, does that battery get hot!
Cell phones also have batteries that can (and do) explode.
every e-bike is also chinese made junk too
@@chernobyl169 yes but a cell phone battery is much much much smaller than an EV battery
I have a 2014 GMC 2500HD Denali diesel pickup truck and two years ago I drove from Idaho to my cousin's house in Billings MT with a detour to Red Lodge MT on the way and it was just over 600 miles at 70-80 mph most of the way and I crossed two large mountain ranges including the Continental Divide on one tank of diesel, I have a 38 gallon tank. Fill up time less than 10 minutes. What electric vehicle could do this? Oh yeah I also had some lawn equipment in the back to give my cousin.
Buying a car in NYC makes no sense when you remember that they have one of the best public transit systems in the country. Over 90% of New Yorkers barely drive and over half don't even have a license because of the subway system.
You gotta ask EV makers whether they have fulfilled their promise to the buyers in terms of building the charging infrastructure. Some countries, like Indonesia, are trying to introduce EVs and have set high ambitions, without realising that it’s a chicken or egg situation for EV vs EV battery changing or charging..
very simple charge at home, 1 night charge drive 500km. basicall only once a week thing.
Indonesia and many countries do not even have basic electrical supplies for even houses, let alone for MegaWatt chargers ( EVangelists love to say 'Megawatt chargers' without even even realising that outside of large urban areas in very advanced countries they are a pipe dream.
@@chrissmith2114 maybe they meant Megawatti? 🤣
@@frankmuller0.029 Nice one..
at home slow charge don't need megawatt whatever, charege 8-10hrs full run for a week. 1/10th cost of gas car.@@chrissmith2114
The rest of the country doesnt llike New York and your channel is an in depth review as to why. keep it up!
City employees hogging the chargers is just the cherry on top. How entitled can you get.
Be careful with e-bike batteries. At least one person has died in London from them catching fire while charging overnight.
What are average traffic speeds in New York ? I am wondering whether something like a Citroen Ami would be practical.
Imagine trying to plug in while in NYC…it would be a nightmare! I personally would love a plug in hybrid. I mostly drive in the city, and not many miles, so I would be electric all the time unless I took a road trip.
seen the toyota chr 2023 / 2024 model ? its redesigned from its predecessor, it aint bad but now its a hybrid model of lithium battery and 1.8 to 2L petrol/gas model... cant say for sure for its mileage driving off state
A Hybrid??? Why try to be half pregnant? GO EV or go Petrol. Hybrids are the biggest joke since Biden.
The Thruway is putting in high speed chargers at every rest stop. My body needs a break, for various reasons, every two hours or so anyhow.
Driving and parking in NYC are reasons I stay away from it.
Your videos are great!! Besides the content, which is great, I love the editing - it's like no others that I've seen. Thanks for your work on these.
In germany we have many electric charging posts. Every normal gas station has one. And you can obly stay up to 4hours at one… but i also think that europe is way more suited for EV than USA is… you either have extremely dense cities like new york or rural suburb cities.
In the Netherlands companies have ev-charging stations on the parking lot for their employees. Also on the street there are ev-charging stations. These locations are dedicated for ev's only. 😉
If the EV was a viable alternative form of transport. The government wouldn't need legislation to force people into buying them.
Your quote covers it completely.
Just know that Ford and GM lobbied for the return of subsidies. Not Tesla nor the Government.
The government gives incentives to buy evs with tax cuts but I have never heard of the government forcing someone to buy an ev
@@abdullahakhtar9824 most European countries have an ICE car and van ban coming in 2035.
And up to that ban there will be limits on how many new ICE cars can be sold per year.
@@abdullahakhtar9824 When ice vehicles have been banned, all will have to buy ev. California has already banned gas powered lawn mowers and leaf blowers by a certain year so all that is left is electric. It is not that you are forced but when the federal government takes all the options away, you are left with their desired outcome. Of course, the politicians will will have gas guzzling SUV’s but not you.
I personally would love a plug in hybrid. I mostly drive in the city, and not many miles, so I would be electric all the time unless I took a road trip. Then the gas would be very helpful
You still are forced to run the gas from time to time because otherwise the gas will go bad in the tank and for a hybrid it captures energy made by the gas engine and feeds it into the battery
EV only mode is nice but there are limitations
@@f45411 While you are absolutely correct, Plug-in Hybrids are still the best option for most people. Considering access to charging stations and average travel distance
get a Prius you wont regret it, and if you like cars get a fun cheap used car such as a 2013 Toyota FT86 or a 2015 onwards Mini Cooper S as a second car.
@@f45411true plug in hybrid's are the way to go. With those changing is a plus not a requirement
@@PaulTC777i got me a Prius Prime it's amazing. When i can charge its a nice ev that has just enough range for intown driving. And when i can't it’s a hybrid car that gets great mileage. Best of both worlds.
None in Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst. Not even superchargers. However, there are chargers located inside public parking garages which you need to pay for a “spot” in order to use their chargers.
Buying an EV will have zero effect on climate change . Here in UK ev sales to private buyers have also stalled. Ev`s have many problems that were not forseen a few yrs ago.This also means depreciation is huge,eg 40 plus % in 1 yr,and insurance is also very expensive. Overall at the moment they are not seen as a good purchase.
Great reporting, Cash! Love your videos! I never miss your uploads! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!🦃
The optimal choice is a hybrid vehicle, specifically referring to those equipped with both a traditional internal combustion engine and an electric drive train, as opposed to plug-in hybrids.
Perhaps you didn't type what you meant. But "those equipped with both a traditional internal combustion engine and an electric drive train," is the very definition of a PHEV. That description is not "as opposed to plug-in hybrids" as you say while contradicting yourself.
came here to say the same thing
Great video, im torn because I like the IDEAS proposed by electric automakers but the practicality or support is where they fall short in terms of delivering. Also, you should do more car spotting in New York, you found some cool stuff, that LFA is insanely cool
I really feel unsafe driving my gasoline car knowing
there are people out on the
streets driving these auto-drive EV cars.