LBC debate: How far might the conflict escalate after Iran missile attack?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • Tuesday's Cross Question panel discussed whether Israel’s motivations ‘justify the epic loss of life’ across the Middle East.
    Sarah Olney - Liberal Democrat Cabinet Office spokesperson and MP for Richmond Park
    Alistair Burt - Former Conservative Middle East and North Africa Minister
    Rachel Shabi - Journalist and author
    Sam Kiley - International affairs-focused writer and broadcaster
    It comes after Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has called for a ceasefire in the Middle East after a call with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu - as the IDF vows retaliation for Iran's ballistic missile attack.
    Keir Starmer spoke to Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, and to the King of Jordan, Abdullah II, on Tuesday night after more than 200 Iranian missiles rained down upon Israel.
    Iran fired around 200 missiles at Israel, in apparent retaliation at Israel's incursion in Lebanon to fight Hezbollah, an Iranian client group.
    Early indications suggest that no one was hurt in the Iranian missile attack on Israel. Israeli authorities said that civilians could leave air raid shelters around an hour after the attack began.
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Комментарии • 261

  • @brianbrunt3636
    @brianbrunt3636 Час назад +146

    I take it we have already forgotten Israel hit 40k plus civilians

    • @Dcfc1chez
      @Dcfc1chez Час назад +2

      They will look at this as calateral damage. They were right in saying hamas were hiding with civilians

    • @tonyuwu9630
      @tonyuwu9630 59 минут назад +1

      Who caused it we need to be aware of!

    • @drbalbon7332
      @drbalbon7332 56 минут назад +2

      We don't know how many were Hamas soldiers.

    • @johnsorzano
      @johnsorzano 55 минут назад +1

      That's a Hamas problem, not Israel's and DEFINITELY not ours. Clean your house b4 you go try to clean your neighbours 😂

    • @ChrisAlbertH47
      @ChrisAlbertH47 55 минут назад

      Not forgotten, just ignored by western media.

  • @hack999casper6
    @hack999casper6 Час назад +52

    What has Israel been doing all over Gaza and Lebanon? Is that nothing?

    • @insomniacbritgaming1632
      @insomniacbritgaming1632 41 минуту назад

      Iran targeted civilian with ZERO military presence... every Missile Israel sent killed military personel in Civilian areas... why are soldiers in civilian areas??

    • @Nobodyyouknow-u8w
      @Nobodyyouknow-u8w 8 минут назад

      The US doesn't escalate, it just adjusts the base level of violence ever upwards.

  • @UZISHAF
    @UZISHAF Час назад +38

    Iain Dale showed how clueless he is on the show last night. Honestly hasn’t got any idea about the history, context or reality of the situation.

    • @DarrenFaulkner365
      @DarrenFaulkner365 44 минуты назад +1

      @@UZISHAF that’s so true. He quite literally has absolutely no idea about anything that happened more than a few months ago. Seems to be the required standard for LBC presenters these days

  • @Rawraw696
    @Rawraw696 Час назад +30

    The title on the thumbnail has me laughing 'a missle hitting cilivans changes everything' like they only see cilivans if they were born the right religion

    • @insomniacbritgaming1632
      @insomniacbritgaming1632 41 минуту назад +1

      Why are Palestinian military killed in these attacks if its in a civilian area??

  • @shaun1463
    @shaun1463 2 часа назад +79

    she stood her ground against this troll.

  • @ebflegg
    @ebflegg Час назад +120

    Shocking the way Dale defends and justifies Israel

    • @jake751
      @jake751 Час назад +14

      He's a ghoul

    • @edmundsevern7402
      @edmundsevern7402 Час назад +2

      Everyone can have an opinion, this is different from palistine

    • @anonitachi6966
      @anonitachi6966 Час назад

      He's just a mouthpiece. Another part of the narrative controlling, propagandist Brit media.

    • @ImloyaltoScotlandonly
      @ImloyaltoScotlandonly Час назад

      ​@@edmundsevern7402yeah if you're evil

    • @jimwest7107
      @jimwest7107 Час назад +2

      I back Israel fully though, to me Shabi is backing the bad actors

  • @brianferguson7840
    @brianferguson7840 Час назад +68

    Because Israel has the ability to make you believe absurdities. It has the ability to make you ignore atrocities. (To paraphrase Voltaire)

  • @frances-l3f
    @frances-l3f Час назад +30

    "The time of such a regime, such despots, is gone" Arrest Netanyahu, full stop !

    • @SF-UK-888
      @SF-UK-888 Час назад

      Unfortunately, it is only just beginning.

  • @garethmartin6522
    @garethmartin6522 2 часа назад +99

    The presenter is a disgrace. Hopelessly biased, telling us not to believe our own lying eyes.

    • @lesaamoore
      @lesaamoore Час назад +9

      Yes. He should be fired for supporting terror attacks.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 Час назад +4

      He's BALD

    • @brianferguson7840
      @brianferguson7840 Час назад +8

      To all the presenters, on all the channels, who for ten months have supported and encouraged and enabled, Israel's "Activities". May the darkest of stains never leave your hateful souls.

    • @Wordbavk
      @Wordbavk Час назад

      @@brianferguson7840cry harder

  • @9syc0
    @9syc0 Час назад +101

    Why are they talking about Iranian politics and not Israeli policy of expansion into Palestinian territory for the past 50 years with no will for peace negotiations?

    • @ruaraidhmorrison5879
      @ruaraidhmorrison5879 Час назад +10

      Because over the last 50 years Israel has offered various 2 state solutions, all of which were rejected by Palestine

    • @IntoMotivate
      @IntoMotivate Час назад +3

      @@ruaraidhmorrison5879🎉❤

    • @kunaiflex491
      @kunaiflex491 Час назад

      😂😂​@@ruaraidhmorrison5879

    • @guneytopal1713
      @guneytopal1713 Час назад +4

      @@ruaraidhmorrison5879the problem with those offers by Israel is they want more land quite clearly so why would Palestine accept?

    • @ISREALHASGOD
      @ISREALHASGOD Час назад +1

      Wrong

  • @katchbulletriveradventures38
    @katchbulletriveradventures38 2 часа назад +28

    WOW
    Look how LBC talk about loss of life
    No one cares

  • @lesaamoore
    @lesaamoore Час назад +30

    Iaian does not value human life equally. He’s justifying and minimizing terror attacks. That is clear. Shame on LBC. He should be fired.

  • @geemula3652
    @geemula3652 Час назад +24

    Ian dale is just another coward on lbc

  • @jazhric
    @jazhric 2 часа назад +47

    That woman in green destroyed the bald man

  • @jackperry2821
    @jackperry2821 Час назад +17

    This is what happens when you let any country get away with crimes against humanity.
    A country needed to step up and stand up to Israel, instead of us and the US, we've let Iran gain the morale high ground, who themselves have a deplorable government. We could have led the world on this and been a beacon for peace, rather than selling both sides weapons.
    No more business with Israel or Iran at all, no more travel and no more military support until a ceasefire can be agreed

  • @empower.1982
    @empower.1982 Час назад +13

    Where is mossads headquarters???

  • @tilalmanzoor578
    @tilalmanzoor578 Час назад +6

    It's clear from this interview that Ian Dale has huge bias towards the European colonisers and has no concern for all those innocents killed by Israeli terrorism. Shocking bird and dehumanisation of the Palestinians and Lebanese by Ian.

    • @jimwest7107
      @jimwest7107 58 минут назад

      It's clear to me LBC has a lot of listeners who have very suspicious loyalties.

  • @redeyegooner
    @redeyegooner Час назад +4

    When Israel do it, they're "defending themselves". And *only* Israel "has the right to defend itself"

  • @thefastlifestyle
    @thefastlifestyle Час назад +7

    Dale....your loyalties clearly lay somewhere else. When talking about the IOF he has plenty of responses but upon Rachels question "whats your response to 40,000 dead in gaza" he says "im not here to give a response"

  • @mslondonsuleyman
    @mslondonsuleyman Час назад +11

    Not fighting woman and children now Iran 🇮🇷 has the right to defend itself,

  • @niallmccarthy1219
    @niallmccarthy1219 Час назад +40

    Well done lady. Ian Dale is quite sub human in his callouness

  • @suswar7474
    @suswar7474 Час назад +6

    Thank you Rachel for always speaking the truth

  • @AmrHussein1805
    @AmrHussein1805 2 часа назад +65

    Well said Rachel

    • @jake751
      @jake751 Час назад +7

      She was very impressive unlike dale.

  • @hustler3of4culture3
    @hustler3of4culture3 2 часа назад +41

    She's spot on

    • @cesarpolitics7576
      @cesarpolitics7576 Час назад

      The civilian, Nasrallah! Get real.

    • @EM-fo6yr
      @EM-fo6yr Час назад +2

      ​@@cesarpolitics7576you have a smooth brain

    • @kunaiflex491
      @kunaiflex491 Час назад +1

      ​@cesarpolitics7576 she's talking about civilians no one mentioned nasrallah you brainbox

    • @cesarpolitics7576
      @cesarpolitics7576 Час назад

      @@kunaiflex491 Yes she did, she addressed his point that they were shooting the headquarters, and she tried to deflect by saying it was in the middle of a city, just like the british army. Maybe, but the fact is Hezbollah is not the lebanese army, which so far didn't get involved, they had zero legitimacy to do this stuff.

  • @zer0875
    @zer0875 Час назад +15

    This woman is a champion of thr truth admist a forest of lies!

  • @humanityslasthope5571
    @humanityslasthope5571 57 минут назад +4

    She's completely correct

  • @brianferguson7840
    @brianferguson7840 55 минут назад +3

    Every "Israeli" interviewed in the media always speaks with an American or English accent. But Palestinian, Lebanese, or Jordanians have accents of the country of their birth. I wonder why ?

  • @clairegillies7919
    @clairegillies7919 Час назад +4

    Something deeply dark, disturbing and sinister about Dale.

  • @bortroad5740
    @bortroad5740 56 минут назад +4

    Im now a fan of Rachel Shabi.
    Well done

  • @alingard1
    @alingard1 Час назад +7

    This idea that Israel is just defending itself is total garbage. Their idea since its very beginning has been aggression. Create a reality on the ground. You can’t go 80 years of that and then suddenly start saying we need to defend ourselves. The very reason for that IS your aggression for the last 80 years. You can’t keep punching your opponent and expect peace. That’s ridiculous.
    Any chance of peace BN has deliberately opposed ever since he’s been in politics.

  • @helenab7390
    @helenab7390 Час назад +3

    Dale needs sacking!

  • @fantagrape682
    @fantagrape682 Час назад +16

    Rachel just wiped the floor with you on your own show mate

  • @South_Central_Southsea
    @South_Central_Southsea Час назад +3

    Always remember, when you have nothing to say, revert back to "but do you condem or it all started on October 7th".
    The bais is unreal..

  • @JohnCox-ut3cv
    @JohnCox-ut3cv Час назад +3

    Well done Rachel Shabi.

  • @larisapop
    @larisapop Час назад +16

    Well done to this lady

  • @tryingmybest9819
    @tryingmybest9819 Час назад +2

    Bald glasses guy. Not a strategic problem for UK. What will happen to prices if middle east becomes a no go zone for goods such as oil?
    Israel has been claiming de-escalation through escalation for the last week. Why were they not being called out on that nonsense?

  • @johannesramokgadi6243
    @johannesramokgadi6243 2 часа назад +7

    There were many direct hits

  • @JP-go5tr
    @JP-go5tr 2 часа назад +12

    "Well im not here to respond"- just defend....

  • @Elizadoolittle1948
    @Elizadoolittle1948 42 минуты назад +1

    Iain needs to be utterly condemned in history for his contribution to the skewed narrative of this world event, which has cost the lives of thousands. Shameful stuff. I hope he is held accountable by history.

  • @lakitoo123
    @lakitoo123 Час назад +1

    "Why aren't you condemning Hamas/Hezbollah??" is an irritating purity test used exclusively by thick interviewers.

  • @DopeAtoms
    @DopeAtoms 56 минут назад +3

    Bravo to that lady ❤

  • @csharra
    @csharra 2 часа назад +6

    This time around the countries around didn’t help Israel prevent the missle i.e Saudi,Jordan speaks volumes.

    • @RR-qq3jo
      @RR-qq3jo Час назад

      They couldn’t to be fair. The iron dome didn’t work against these missiles so those countries had no choice.

  • @professionalmalang
    @professionalmalang Час назад +4

    Where is mossad hq?

  • @mikwel7451
    @mikwel7451 Час назад +4

    Where is mosad headquarters based ?

  • @cocoreggo
    @cocoreggo Час назад +2

    This man is so biased and disgusting she is bringing straight facts and he made himself look like an absolute fool. He shouldnt be hosting and the comments section show that everyone think he is an idiot

  • @idaknowman180
    @idaknowman180 Час назад +1

    LBC disgraceful takes as usual

  • @seanmurphy5770
    @seanmurphy5770 Час назад +3

    That is exactly what Iran did sit back and did nothing in the last two weeks to give peace a chance, despite the provocations of Israel. But it is obvious that Israel does not want peace and now they got what they wanted all along war.

  • @davedee923
    @davedee923 23 минуты назад +1

    Rachel Shabi - a lone voice talking common sense.

  • @Lala.H.R
    @Lala.H.R Час назад +2

    Hes a joke!

  • @mohammadawais8865
    @mohammadawais8865 Час назад

    Our media’s hypocrisy must have been writing some comedic genius, this has to be a joke a very sinister joke at that.

  • @RabbitTeaPot
    @RabbitTeaPot 40 минут назад +1

    What irritates me is “I’m not here to give my response I’m here to ask you questions” well my dude you did give a response no less than a minute before by saying “I noted you’ve not condemned….” Like come on. You can’t be fence sitting whilst also acting as the arbiter of what you consider morally right & voicing it & then refuse to answer a question yourself.

  • @ru76224
    @ru76224 51 минуту назад +2

    *What about the SAUSAGES!*

  • @vinnym4480
    @vinnym4480 Час назад +1

    Please please please be unbiased about this - we are on the brink

  • @MrShuttz
    @MrShuttz Час назад +1

    This ladies moral compass is broken

  • @eddieokpara3549
    @eddieokpara3549 21 минуту назад +1

    Mossad headquarters is in a densely populated area, that too is using human shield

  • @R.EGrantham
    @R.EGrantham Час назад +1

    Iran followed the Russian doctrine in Ukraine, the first occasion to determine the location of Israel's defences, and this second strike last night to overide Iron Dome and target military bases. Note the religious Shias do not as Israel does target civilians as they are doing in Jordan but military trargets. Iran now has hypersonic missiles that the West has no defence for. The next strike will be largely hypersonic and devastating; shock and awe.

  • @Graverobbert
    @Graverobbert Час назад +1

    Biblical prophecy no doubt needs to be engineered to happen.

  • @mariogaeta8911
    @mariogaeta8911 36 минут назад +1

    Fire Ian Dale right now ffs

  • @gwenwalravens8030
    @gwenwalravens8030 19 минут назад

    It's Israel who keeps escalating. They literally said de-escalation through escalation. In other words they want this to play out through all out war.

  •  Час назад +3

    Don't want civilians getting hit then don't put mossads headquarters in a built up area,what is it isreal says about hamas they use human shields because they base themselves in built up areas

  • @TM-rq3jp
    @TM-rq3jp Час назад +2

    That is so funny they have been poking at lebonan and iran so why the surprise

  • @suhelmiah8890
    @suhelmiah8890 Час назад +1

    Dale is on their pay roll

  • @irfanhaque2617
    @irfanhaque2617 Час назад +1

    What a great woman.... Weldone 👍

  • @edmundsevern7402
    @edmundsevern7402 Час назад +1

    Both sides have blood on their hands

  • @reuvenmagnes2540
    @reuvenmagnes2540 29 минут назад

    Israel is defending itself against the motto of From the River to the Sea . What dont they understand about it ?

  • @mohammedashfaaq1951
    @mohammedashfaaq1951 Час назад

    the question is when will the occupation end and peace move into the middle east🧐

  • @markgloster3230
    @markgloster3230 Час назад +8

    I love this woman. She absolutely destroyed that biased presenter 👏🏾👏🏾

    • @jake751
      @jake751 Час назад +1

      Not hard to be honest. Yes she is very knowledgeable.

  • @yolipompa
    @yolipompa Час назад +1

    The presentar has not empathy

  • @PeterCountVader
    @PeterCountVader 56 минут назад

    Regardless of what side you're on, don't ask a journalist their opinion if you want something useful in response.

  • @ISREALHASGOD
    @ISREALHASGOD Час назад +1

    We all need to join in..lets deal with it, once and for all

  • @rothwellaudio
    @rothwellaudio 21 минуту назад

    The failed wannabe Tory MP is completely clueless.

  • @susantambling527
    @susantambling527 12 минут назад

    Sending love to Rachel Shaibi a true Jewish voice thank you for cutting through the BS ❤

  • @TessTearoe-zp5xv
    @TessTearoe-zp5xv Час назад +3

    I love Britain and US caring about woman they bugged out of Afghanistan and care not a wit about women and the Taliban.

  • @saragonmcenany6229
    @saragonmcenany6229 Час назад

    Israel planned this escalation

  • @Shadows4_life
    @Shadows4_life Час назад

    How will STOP THIS CRIMINAL'S ISRAEL APARTHEID

  • @JohnCox-ut3cv
    @JohnCox-ut3cv Час назад

    They could engage with the UN.
    They could comply with international law.
    They could define what they see as their borders.
    On a different front has it been denied or confirmed whether the UK took part in last nights blockade of missiles or has that partnership been reduced to the USA & the apartheid state of Israel.

  • @JohnCox-ut3cv
    @JohnCox-ut3cv Час назад

    They could engage with the UN.
    They could comply with international law.
    They could define what they see as their borders.
    On a different front has it been denied or confirmed whether the UK took part in last nights blockade of missiles or has that partnership been reduced to the USA & the apartheid state of Israel.

  • @ielee1765
    @ielee1765 Час назад

    Don't start to worry now, if you lots of western journalists are doing their jobs honestly and impartially. Your lots are partly to be blame for the escalation of all wars..

  • @pdarley58
    @pdarley58 37 минут назад

    This women is absolutely correct!!!

  • @Adnankh147
    @Adnankh147 Час назад

    The man got the lady to condemn. Job done. Politics as usual.

  • @JamesFindley-jp6qf
    @JamesFindley-jp6qf 48 минут назад

    How many civilians were already killed and maimed by Israel

  • @Graverobbert
    @Graverobbert Час назад

    What does much more targeted mean? Suggesting the Gaza hostage rescue mission was more indiscriminate?

  • @seydesigns7395
    @seydesigns7395 19 минут назад

    She speaks truth, well done to this lady ❤

  • @TheAngryWexican.
    @TheAngryWexican. 31 минуту назад

    Well done Rachel Shabi. Iain Dale is a w⚓️

  • @chibychibs
    @chibychibs 45 минут назад

    No one but isreal has the right to defend themselves. Lets make that very clear!

  • @farmer_donny
    @farmer_donny 15 минут назад

    Our energy supplies from Russia have been disabled.
    Oil reserves in the USA are minimal.
    Iran could shut off oil supplies to the West at the straits of Hormuz.
    Winter is coming.
    We could make it much worse.

  • @latinokid33
    @latinokid33 48 минут назад

    Comments deleted when the truth is told.

  • @jimwest7107
    @jimwest7107 Час назад

    Not far. Iran has limited capability and no friends with proxies gone.

  • @shahinmiah8910
    @shahinmiah8910 26 минут назад

    I won't address the current death toll in the war in Palestine, but I'm curious if Dale can provide the exact figures for combatants versus civilians.

  • @PEdition1BFD
    @PEdition1BFD 51 минуту назад

    This is a message for the public at large on all sides (the Isreali, Iranian and the rest of the world).
    You should immediately STOP picking sides. You should be calling for all aggression to stop. If the public start picking side like it's a game and it won't affect you. Remember the fire you light will reach your homes too and mine. You will be affect and your families will be affect.

  • @johnmalone7913
    @johnmalone7913 41 минуту назад

    The pager attack was indiscriminate.....shocking....peace between all nations.....

  • @angusmcfarlane1225
    @angusmcfarlane1225 9 минут назад

    Rachel Shabi is all over the place. Doesn't know what she's talking about.

  • @brentonelliot3781
    @brentonelliot3781 31 минуту назад

    This lady is absolutley nuts!!!

  • @georginahassett
    @georginahassett 24 минуты назад

    She has a moral compass he is nothing but an lsraeli mouthpiece

  • @Vegansharks
    @Vegansharks 48 минут назад

    I'm with Israel, thing is if there was peace tomorrow Palestine and Hezbolla have neither the dignity nor the ability to keep the peace, lets face it and be honest, when it comes to religion its all about themselves, no tolerance whatsoever..

  • @irfanhaque2617
    @irfanhaque2617 Час назад

    This presenter needs to get sacked.... What a muppet 🙄

  • @jake751
    @jake751 Час назад +4

    FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸

  • @pompeo133
    @pompeo133 Час назад +3

    Is this a pro Hamas/islamits program?

  • @yaicherabah2652
    @yaicherabah2652 58 минут назад

    Zelensky of UKR was taking advice from BB of Israel in NY , who could not beat hamas on how to beat Russia telling him YOU HAVE TO BE RUTHLESS ..HAHAHAHAHHAH Typical😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @shoz4361
    @shoz4361 Час назад +2

    Why is that guy an LBC presenter?