Vectrex Buzz-Off Kit Installation
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Thirty six years after seeing (and hearing) my first Vectrex - I'm finally doing something about its infamous buzz. The majority of the video shows how I got on with installing the Buzz-off kit, but towards the end of the video there's also a brief demo of a new Vectrex light pen.
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Mat, thanks for doing this video! There are over 2500 of these kits installed now. I designed it for anyone to be able install that wanted to. This is the third year of offering the kit and the Audio Tap line.
Thanks for making stuff like this and keeping retro gaming history alive.
Top bloke... thanks from a UK vectrexer!
You designed nothing, just put a standard amp in a plastic box. But well done sir, that’s a nice little profit there, I take my hat off.
I don't own a Vectrex, and I may never get into vintage computing (vintage (British) cars is more my thing!), but I definitely appreciate the work that's gone into this kit. Awesome instructions, straight to the point, and a very simple kit overall, by the looks. Absolutely fantastic work, mate, even if I may never need one myself! I'll share this with my Hackerspace group and see if anyone wants one.
Watched more of the video. May I recommend a mod to the kit? Why not include a wire that plugs in to the socket at 11:00 to 11:17 or so? Is that a rare item or something? I feel like the kit would be even easier if you had a plug available. Pardon my useless rambling, though, i'm not an electronics engineer - yet. It's an awesome kit nonetheless!
Many years ago I thought my dad had bought me and my sister a Vectrex and I loved it, but it turns out he'd only rented it for the summer holidays. I was, apparently so upset when it went back that, for Christmas that year, we were bought our first proper computer, a Commodore 64. So, it all turned out well in the end (especially when you consider I'm now a University Lecturer teaching Computer based modelling and simulation).
Success story at it's finest. Me on the other hand.... nevermind.
@@kellypg well, not with that attitude ;)
@Robert Jones I was a big fan of the Spectrum too - 3D Starstrike was one of my favourite games and Elite ran much smoother on the Spectrum than it did on the C64 - but I still love my 64 and yes, the SID chip was just the best.
I started with the ZX-81. I so wanted a spectrum when it came out. Never got one but still would love to own one. I think an Amstrad CPC was my next computer. I still remember the buzz and excitement from buying computer magazines as a kid and ready every inch of them.
SYS 64738 :-)
My friend had a Vectrex with the light pen back in the 80s and it absolutely blew my mind. Asked for one for Christmas and got laughed at by my parents. They told me to go play his when I wanted to. I carried that wisdom into adulthood with respect to boats and jet skis
Much the same as me, except I applied it to beer and women.
The 2 best days of a boat owner are the day he buys it and the day he sells it
@@kellypg that applies to many items other than boats.
Sometimes I wish I had nothing and lived on an isolated tropical island. Then I come back to my senses and watch another RUclips.
"wisdom" is right!
And pools!
I saw a Vectrex at a computer game museum once and it stood out like a sore thumb against other machines of it's vintage. The fluidity and brightness of the display are something that just has to be experienced in real life.
16:16 Thank you very much for the Vec box scans credit. I appreciated that very much! I'm a big fan of your channel and it's an honor to have them show up here. -Matt
You’re the only website with that picture - thanks for doing the scan, it was just what I needed to show in the video.
@@Ramdileo_sys Sadly, almost everything you learned there is irrelevant to the Vectrex, as vector displays function very differently than raster displays.
@@Ramdileo_sys What I'm saying is that the video you linked doesn't actually explain how the Vectrex light pen works.
@@CptJistuce I'd hazard a guess theyd both abuse the properties of CRTs to achieve their effects, even if the rendering process is different. They both use CRT monitors, although the Vectrex doesn't use the mask since it doesn't render pixels, and likely has a different formulation of phosphors used.
@@SkigBiggler The Vectrex also doesn't have a regular scan pattern that hits every part of the screen, because vector displays directly trace the visible image(basically, an electronic Etch-a-Sketch). And that's why the traditional way of making lightguns and lightpens work doesn't work, and the 8-Bit Guy video referenced isn't actually relevant. You can't watch to see when the beam is going by if the beam isn't touching most of the screen, and that is the key property of a raster-scan display that lightpens and lightguns traditionally exploit.
Lightpens on vector displays require a more complex approach because of that(and if a lightgun is even p possible, I'll be surprised).
Incidentally, color vector displays DO have a shadow mask. The Vectrex doesn't use one because it is monochrome, not because it is vector. Monochrome raster-scan displays don't have shadow masks either.
That´s why I love the Vectrex, all those cool homebrew projects done today for such an unique gaming console, buzz-off kits, amazing UV overlays, Thomas Sontowski´s mind blowing VecFever cart and much more. Rastislav was even so kind to send me his first light pen with buttons some time ago, love that device, he lives quite close to my home on the other side of the border in Slovakia so he is almost a neighbour. ;-)
Hi Roli! Without your excellent channel dedicated to Vectrex, I probably wouldn't buy one and without your video where you have pointed out the fact that there is no pen with buttons yet, I woudln't make one. We all 'make history' together. ;-)
The vectrex is a beautiful but sadly lesser-known part of gaming history.
"It is possible, even if you are a bit of a clown" Relatable
I had to solder six pin-size points on my original XBOX motherboard this week, left one of the solder bridges sticking up higher than Mt Crumpit - and it all turned out functional.
We clowns get it done from time to time.
@@arootube You don't wanna know how I put a 50hz/60hz switch and a region switch on my megadrive. But it works hahahaha.
Clown Lives Matter
Recently I was trying to repair an audio cable. Carefully soldered everything back together, only to discover that I had forgotten to put the sleeve on first! Had to unsolder everything and start again! Of course the first try was a much neater job...
You need to make a Tech Moan intro using the light pen! This is pure gold!
That, plus the UV overlays, is instant vaporwave gold.
TheRealColBosch Yes!! And if you add some brass and synths it’s gonna be Sovietwave gold
Why stop at the lightpen? Get the 3-D headset in there too.
The light pen is the small man's light saber.
@@techloon4181 The light pen is mightier than the light saber.
hilariously im watching this on an old plasma and i really had to turn it up to hear your buzz over mine
I had to put on my headset as my soundbar didn't make the buzz sound was just silent
Never did hear a buzz
I had to hear it over the buzz in my head.
I had to stop making that buzzing sound with my mouth that I do all the time.
i had to put on a tinfoil hat to cancel out the buzz all 5g towers generate
That Buzz Off kit was really well packaged and presented. Using real wires sellotaped to a hi-res pic showing you exactly where to go. Very thoughtful by the vendor, totally foolproof.
Thank you for noticing that. I wanted everyone to have the chance at success.
I work in hifi electronics manufacturing and repair so I can say that your "bodges" look very good compared to some of the fixes that I've had to implement.
However, I would be a bit weary of you placing the amplifier on top of a transformer, you might be picking up a bit of mains hum. But if that works for you, that's great!
He did, you can clearly hear it when he says there's an eary silence. It surprised me he said that since there was clearly an interference, just less obvious than before.
There is a very low level noise with the kit installed. To me, it is so low as to not be an annoyance. Compare the before and after - it is a vast improvement. It is odd to place an amplifier right on a transformer, for sure.
@@butwait I know his father is somewhat hearing impaired but I can't remember if he said he is as well
Meh, by comparison it is quiet now. I think before, the original amplifier was near the tube driving section. The buzz sounds very much like vertical buzz, which would be 50Hz, same as mains. Anyhow, I'm assuming the kit instructions suggest having it on the transformer. There isn't much free real estate to put it anyway.
Yeah i found the positioning of that amplifier module a bit dubious as well, but as we could hear, it was virtually noise-free in the end, so it's all good imo :)
MB really were so ahead of everyone when this was launched. They were made in my home town in Waterford Ireland and the factory is still here today.
A Geary MB didn’t design it though....and I have doubts they were manufactured in Ireland.....all units I’ve seen so far say Made in Hong Kong, but maybe there were also manufactured in other places.....haven’t seen them all 😁
@@atariandre5014 I know for a fact they were assembled in the factory and packaged...
A Geary I’ll believe it when I see a “Made in Ireland” label on a Vectrex 😎
I did some quick research, and it seems that while I couldn't find evidence of the Vectrex itself being produced in Ireland, the cartridges were: vectorgaming.proboards.com/thread/762/mine-storm-ii
Atari Andre Techmoans is Made in Taiwan
the light pen is legit impressing even now.
Now I saw a vectrex at a consumer electronics show with a 3D+color attachment.
You wore a big pair of glasses on your head with a spinning wheel that blocked each eye some of the time and colored your view some of the time, and the vectrix would sync itself to the spinning wheel to give you real 3D through eye to eye flicker and color the same way.
The famous Vectrex 3D Imager. My holy grail. Currently, there is one on ebay for 700 euros. :(
I love these kits that breathe new life into old video game equipment.
Would love to see a new Techmoan intro with the Vectrex light pen and different overlays!
It's great watching your vids showing old tech which was either outdated and forgotten or that we never knew existed.
I didn't really notice on the first video, but this console aged pretty well, the protector game seems pretty good even by modern standards, and the high refresh rate + vector graphics combo really seems way ahead of its time in '83!
I love seeing those super old hand drawn PCB's
the curvy traces are so interesting looking
This really does elevate the vectrex to the level it always deserves to have been. When I was young I just assumed the buzzing was related to how the vector art was generated.
The moving TM letters with the Light Pen application is reminding me of the Danger Mouse logo.
Danger mouse~ *DANGER MOUSE!*
Quite possibly my favourite channel on youtube. I love to learn about old tech from before my time.
Glad there's such a dedicated community out there keeping the Vectrex alive.
Wow man, so much hate in the comment section for modifying a friggin' videogame console. It's his machine, not yours. Relax.
They're probably the same people who get mad when somebody opens a Star Wars toy...
@@gwishart Nooo! Is there realy some people who are opening them?!?! :-)
Another excellent video, I love how humble and thankful you are for everything. A lot of RUclipsrs could learn a thing or two!! :)
Keep up the good work, and hope you and family are keeping well.
And Congrats on 1 MILLION subs!
WOW what brilliant instructions...wish all manufacturers would include them as detailed and clear as that!
😊
I was lucky to get a Vectrex in 2013 which was a late German release where they'd fixed the 'buzz'. Clean, crisp sound without modifications.
I think these non-buzz vectrexes have some compatibility issues with some software.
I haven't come across that yet, personally, but it does also have the fixed Minestorm built in.
I remember being mesmerized when I saw Vectrex machines in the store. I've always loved that vector graphics look.
I, too, am still a clown when it comes to soldering, but I can say that using liquid flux makes a huge difference to repairing stuff.
HUGE random blast of nostalgia when I saw the fireball candy. My grandmother had a Vectrex when I was a kid that she played so often, us grandchildren rarely got a go at it. AND her favorite candy that she always had in a big dish next to the Vectrex was fireballs. What are the odds!? Maybe it was just a popular candy in the mid 80's. Anyways, as always... thanks for the memories Techmoan.
The corner pins modifier and the animation was pretty impressive for that era, very smooth
Just got mine back from a Johnny's Jukes in Burnaby to fix mine after it stopped working over 35 years ago. $300 later, it still has that humming goodness to its sound I remember so fondly.
2:31 I love that they include a fireball sweet's 😁 in packaging 😊
That machine is amazing! And that lightpen stuff makes it even more amazing.
Love how easy they made the instructions. That's really nice of them.
With regards to connecting that speaker up either way - the cone will vibrate the wrong way (compared to having the speaker the correct way around), not a massively noticeable difference in a mono system, but get one speaker the wrong way around in a stereo system and you get out of phase audio (which I am sure you are aware of!). Great result, certainly a mod worth doing!
Correct. But it’s not stereo so it will sound the same either way.
I bought one of these new, when I was in my teens in the 1980s. Nice design. Interesting games.
I like the buzz, most Vectrex games have hardly any soundtrack at all so buzz helps to fill the void during the quiet periods.
That pen is a refillable whiteboard marker LOL. As AvE would say, GENIUS! :D
hanetar doesn’t work on whiteboards though
@@Tejvir7 It used to, until the guy gutted it and used the shell to house the electronics lol
Safe to say, it's been refilled...
@@ChuckFickens1972 yeah, they said its reusable, so I have reused it ;-)
So nice to hear somebody pronouncing "solder" properly!
To quote a well-known engineer: "For the benefit of our American viewers, yes that is how we say 'solder' in the UK. Why? Because it's got a f***ing 'L' in it!"
Leicester is pronounced "Lester" to rhyme with "jester" and "pester".
Watched a similar video over on The Retro Shed
's channel, fascinating stuff. Almost makes me want to pick up a Vectrex and one of these kits, never had or even saw one in my youth so luckily no nostalgia pushing me over the edge into what is probably a pricey purchase.
Wow, talk about memories. I got one of these as a kid when they came out. I played it for years. Mistakenly loaned it to family friend, right before moving away. I never got it back. I’ve always wanted to replace it, and just might nowadays. As always, GREAT CONTENT. 👍🏾✌🏾
it's always nice to see people who are not into soldering that much doing it just fine and get the job done. Well done! I hope this will encourage more people to do something similar. No reason to be frightened of electronics.
If you would like me to install a kit in the other machine, let me know. Just need a decent box and another kit.
Have to admit the buzz is part of the charm for me, the way it changed as the on screen graphics changed. I guess it depends on what you drew up on; haven't played one for over 20 years
Might be alone in this but, I find some nostalgic comfort in that buzzing sound.
I've actually never seen the lightpen in use. My mind is blown by that. 1983! I had never seen a Vectrex when they were still relevant so my experiences from that time was my Atari 2600 and my Uncle's Vic-20. I don't know if my mind could have processed it if I had seen that back then. It would have been black magic fuckery. It still kind of is.
You had me in absolute stitches at:
There are people out there who think that a vectrex without its buzz is missing something, and I'd say to those people don't install a buzz-off kit, it's a very easy thing to avoid doing"
Better loan a compressor and really blow the dust out of the first one.
When you start using a brush but don't finish cleaning, the dust tends to stay clumped up in places and can have a greater chance of causing a short or a flashover.
Speaking from the experience of two destroyed CRT televisions, one of which caught on fire a little.
"a little" *^____^*
It’s just a little bit on fire. Haha 🔥
I discovered back in 2006 while cleaning a projector...blowing compressed air (from a can) into the projector while it was powered up was a mistake. Bright and hot projector lamps, propellant and dust makes for nifty flames coming out of the unit. Coworkers were a tad concerned.
Mine wasn't that dusty. I had an issue with the white spot at times, decided to recap it, no difference. Turns out the power switch needed cleaning. One of the power lines the switch connects wasn't being connected.
You should get an air compressor and a blow gun, best thing ever for clearing out dust.
I bought a Vectrex when it came out in the 1980s. It's the only piece of 80s tech that I wish I'd hung on to. I agree that the buzz was annoying. Glad to see a fix came out, even if it was too late for me.
The Deox (and other similar sprays) will eventually dry off and the oxidation and noise will be back. The gunk I suspect is contact grease which is a lot more permanent solution.
Correct. It’s a special dielectric grease that works itself into the carbon trace. New pots of quality are loaded with silicone to keep moisture out.
The buzz sounds awesome... so old-school and soothing. I would never get rid of it.
My Vectrex has that buzz, too. I might not fix it for a long time, but at least now I know where the problem is. Thank you!
Big thumb up for RastiSLAV's work. Also a very generous man.
Nothing I like more than to sit down with a coffee ☕ and watch your vids 👍 happy days.
The vectrex really is superbly gorgeous graphically.
I don't suppose this style is gonna make a big comeback with some new, equally effective technology replacing the CRT, but a man can dream...
You bring back the magical emotion of early electronics quite effectively. It always startles me some when a brit is about to wield a torch. I haven't flashed lights much for over sixty years so I suppose torch is a better name.
You are most definitely not a clown, you tackle jobs I'd never be able to do. I love all of your videos.
Still an amazing machine that Vectrex! I remember they were in the shops but way to expensive for us. Simple lcd-games of things like Donkey Kong with only one screen were a toy for the rich kid in school. Our first step in the computer era was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum and i still have it. Nice memories ; )
And the ZX Sinclair is 40 years old now. The Vectrex will follow later this year :)
I love the videos from you, they always make me happy and glad that I found you. Keep up the good work!
Wow, seriously incredible timing. I just started playing my vectrex again last week. It had been sitting for 3 or 4 years. It's amazing how pretty much everything on a vectrex can be fixed with a few minor adjustments (i.e. geometry issues, stick drift, etc.) the only thing I cant adjust away is the annoying buzz!
I still remember my vectrex , it was awesome , it ended up in the loft at my mums house , it’s now gone forever
Your Vectrex videos have really made me nostalgic and regretful. I had one of these as a kid, only a few games though. Star Trek, something where you had two jeeps to drive around and shoot at each other...
I spent a lot of time with that machine.
Of course I was only about ten when something with the controllers failed. I didn't the first thing about repair at that age. But, I do have fond memories of the old Vectrex.
That's GREAT!! Never had a Vectrex, but oh well.
*oh well*
The energy behind the comment confuses me
how the hell did you comment two days ago?
Howard Shubs is a time traveler!!
@@H1PP1E88 He releases his videos to his Patreons first.
I think they made it more confusing by including physical wires on the printed diagrams. I was also thinking that you had to use them for something.
Just a tip, whenever you re-heat old solder to make a connection or whatever, always add a bit of new solder, the flux in there guarantees you don't get a shoddy joint that will fail. Ideally you could remove all of the old solder first too.
Would love to see a whole video dedicated to the most popular modern accessories and games for the Vectrex. It has such a loving and creative community, they should be highlighted.
Vector displays were nice in so many ways. I seem to recall people taking the deflection yoke off the neck of the CRT in a television while leaving it hooked into the sweep circuitry. Then they would get another yoke and place it on the CRT. Finally they would hook up the horizontal and vertical deflection coils to the speaker outputs of an audio amplifier, and have a TV-sized audio pattern display.
Never tried it myself, but it was tempting. 😉
The buzz brings back fond memories.
You’ll never know how much i love you.
That sounds almost like the name of SpaceX landing ship.
This reminds me of the days when the movie ET came out. I like those games!😃👍
I love how you include content showing you servicing your own gear.
I thought about doing this many years ago, but since I've owned my Vectrex since 1984 I figured I'd like to leave it as I remember it being. That buzz is how I've always remembered it. Plus I'd be very sad if I killed it in the process!
i'm curious, how does the light pen work on a vector screen? i only know the ones for scanline CRTs which essentially just measure the time between VSYNC and the light being measured by the pen, thus knowing where the ray was at that time, but that won't do for a vector based CRT, there's no scanlines to count.
I just worked it out. I did not research this topic. Note how the cursor turns into a octagon that seems to expand and contract depending or how fast you move the pen across the screen. You can really see this effect when he moves from the first to second line. 17:18 I believe the octagon is drawn and while being drawn if the pen hits the edge move the pointer there. If not draw a bigger octagon and so on.
IR photo sender and fly back lines
@@ky5666 ah ok so it essentially tries to home in on it with timed cursor drawing till it gets seen where (or rather when) expected.
@@The_Studioworkshop yeah no. note how i literally just said that this is not the case since there are no scanlines in a vector display
It would be sick to capture this homing-in effect with a high speed camera.
I really like noisy electronics, so I wouldn't install such a kit, but it is nice to see people develop such easy fixes for this sort of hardware issues
I must say, very cool! The Vextrex was awesome machine for its day! The light pen was a surprise, too...I had no idea they made one for it. Of course I’ve only seen the Vectrex on RUclips and usually it’s games they are talking about obviously. The light pen really was cool on this system. Honestly surprised how advanced this thing was for its time!
That has to be one of the most impressive kits I've ever seen! Most seem to blow off doing the documentation once the hard bits have been sorted out.
Good timing on coming out with this video, a friend gave me his Vectrex to try to get it working again. I'll watch out for it being a rare model, and keep in mind that audio amplifier issue.
Thanks, good video!
crazy how much this machine still gets even after all these years. Never owned one and mostly likely never will because they are not really cheap but still fascinating to see what people come up with for the Vectrex.
I remember the old sound. It makes me remember many nice moments when playing the games on it...
An amazing device, thank you for doing this one!
Awesome YT and impressive tech by 1982 standards...though never heard of Vectrex. My path took me from an Atari 2600, to a TRS-80 Model 1, and then a Coco 1 & 2 , before advancing to the IBM PC. Thanks for sharing.
The Vectrex passed me by as a youth. I have to confess, it looks amazing; even in the 21st century! No amount of emulation can reproduce the beauty of those CRT images..!
mudvalve ahhh... youth!
So my Vectrex has been broken for like 8 years. Yesterday I replaced the transformer with great success and figured I'd look up a de-buzzing mod and this video is what made me realize that apparently I have the "rare version" with the unsocketed soundchips. It's just as dusty as yours too, I wonder if they came from the factory with all that dust! 🤣
Always love your videos even if I have no idea what you're working with. Never heard of this thing but it looks fantastic. Also, no wiring job ever works out the first time. There's always some wire that decides to go where it shouldn't.
It's always such a joy to watch somebody fix some old piece and being good at it.
And then there's this :-D
I finally just did the exact same thing but with a $1.00 LM386 audio amplifier board... Its a whole different experience with a quiet vertex! you can leave it on as eye candy now like a lava lamp :) The key is to use a shielded, grounded, audio cable and the positioning of the cable wherein lies across the logic board is crucial in order to completely eliminate all buzzing from the speaker.
I feel like the buzz is part of the charm of this machine
many years back i used to look after a gaming machine that had a small monitor similar to what you have, and it also had a high pitched buzz. i would have paid good money for an add on like this. my boss and i used to have fights about it, he'd leave a test machine running and his old ears couldnt hear it and he'd get annoyed i'd turn it off :p
These are truly fascinating machines. I had no idea they even existed until I saw your previous video on one. I unfortunately have the attention span of a house fly and rarely replay games once I feel I've done all I can with them. Apart from my Nintendo 64 that I've had since Christmas of 1998, and the Windows 98 Pentium 4 system I built 3 or so years ago, I really don't do much retro gaming.
Never the less, keep up the great work Mat! I've done worse soldering jobs myself. Reattached the RCA plugs on the back of a TV 15 years ago with a cut up RJ45 phone cord, solid copper wire is why I used the cord, easier to solder. Was a hackjob but it worked until the TV didn't anymore.
My buddy Charles makes this kit. It's totally worth it
Thank Glen!
Thanks for this. Every few years I start to wonder if I'm in the 'weird without the buzz' camp or the 'remove the noise from the games' camp. I still can't decide, so I guess I'll be back again in a few. 😆
17:50 - love the squishy dancing TM. :)
Always great to see another video from you on the vectrex, stay safe out there!
this was one of the coolest gadgets i've seen i think.. vectrex... things you learn from the internet.
Born in 76 I feel like I missed so much technology in the early years when I watch your channel. My first cd was Metallica black album. I guess I'm a tweener tape to cd..
Great video. Thanks! May I suggest you purchase a small air compressor with an air blowing nozzle? I set it at 90 PSI and it gets ALL the dust off much quicker than the "can of hydrocarbons" and no paint brush needed. I wish I had one of those Vectrex games!
Thanks for another trip into the past, today, I need the escape more then ever. You mentioned the covid delay, we got hit with it, it was nearly like a two by four to the forehead. My wife was having stomach trouble, in March, the doctor wanted to order an upper GI, however the hospital had closed the surgical unit because of covid. So it was, we had to wait till May to have it checked out, as the doctors treated her for an ulcer. The test was done on my birthday, the 26th of May, and the following Monday we got the call. CANCER! It is a rare but very aggressive type, she was admitted to a hospital in a nearby city some 125 miles North, and underwent her first emergency Chemo therapy, thankfully it appears she is responding, however the doctors are not encouraged by this, it may add, perhaps a few months to her life. Needless to say, I have ordered my last item from China because of this, and three times a day I pray to God to give her the strength to carry on. If you or anyone who reads this are willing, please add her to your prayers, she is a wonderful lady and has stood by my side for over 50 years, she waited at home for me when I served my nation in Vietnam back in 70-71, she was a great companion during my 24 years on the police department, all the time serving patients at the local nursing homes and hospitals as a certified nurses aid with med privlidges. Once again, please keep Judy in your prayers and thoughts as she fights this evil desease.
Ahh, the Vectrex. Old school or no, I always wanted one of those things. 🕹