It's been a while since I covered SAVIG, doesn't matter how many years you've done it for ....it's always good to have a recap. Good video mate.....look forward to seeing you out on the ground using that axe.
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Hi Craig, Another area that needs consideration is people that photocopy or print a copy of their own or are given a copy of a map. Theres a couple of things that can go wrong here. These usually are re-scaling issues caused by the software or printer, or printing drift caused by mechanical wear of the printing system. Therefore it is good practice to check the size of your grid using a romer or the appropriate scale line on your compass. Checking for printer or copier drift is done by- Taking a straight edge (a 12' ruler) and placing it 45 degrees across the bottom left hand grid square. The straight edge is now laying at 45 degrees across the map. The bottom left and top right corners of the grid squares along the edge of the ruler should line up if they don't you have a drift issue and the map is compromised. Drift or Scale only have to be out slightly to cause major navigational issues and may not be immediately noticeable. So if you use copies always check. I hope I have managed to get the point across. Many thanks, Tony in Dublin.
Hi Terry... 😉 I must admit that I don't print any maps so your observation isn't something I have any experience of first-hand, however what you described makes perfect sense and I can certainly see it being a stumbling block for people that aren't aware of this potential error. Thank you for taking the time to raise it, I hope other people find it valuable too.
Hi Craig, Thank you for the kind words. I do photocopy maps. I usually plan my route, and photocopy the relevant 1-25000 map. I can mark this if needs be. This is then put into my map case. Used in conjunction with my route card and always at hand. I can fit about 6km square on each side of the case. I also carry the full relevant 1:50000 map in my pack if I need the bigger picture. MR Terry in Dublin 😉
Sussex Woodsman Thanks for the feedback and of course for watching, it's really appreciated. I take it from your username that you're based in Sussex? I live just East of Brighton myself.
Hi Craig. Do you have the recipe” for calculating the current GMAR from an old map’s data? Revisiting the basics to teach my young grandkids without getting overly complicated. Have never thought worked out current declination for MNorth :-(. Intrigued to try it.
WOW! There must be some antiquities amongst those maps 😂😉 Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment it's really appreciated. If you like the look of my channel then please consider subscribing 😁
I suspect we had even more than you guys to be frank. The fact I worked at RARDE (Royal Armaments Research and Development Establishment) says it all ;-) )
It was a slip of the tongue and was corrected by somebody else quite some time ago and acknowledged by myself as a mistake. I'm wondering Bob, are you only viewing these videos to leave snipey comments?
@@TheBushcraftPadawan Sorry didn't see any acknowledgement. If I had I would not have bothered. I guess you are one of those people who do not respond well to criticism. I will, however, continue to point out mistakes, just so that others do not get misled. I am enjoying your series of videos, and I have picked up quite a few tips, so thankyou for that. Don't get so defensive.
@@madcat1007 I don't mind the feedback at all Bob, that's how people learn, but 100% of your initial responses over the past few days have been snarky / negative so it's hard to tell of you're genuinely providing feedback or just trolling. Thank you for taking the the time watch, enjoy your weekend.
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orienteering map scale? 1cm =4cm......?
Ooops! Slip of the tongue. 1cm = 40 metres! I've just annotated the video accordingly - cheers.
It's been a while since I covered SAVIG, doesn't matter how many years you've done it for ....it's always good to have a recap. Good video mate.....look forward to seeing you out on the ground using that axe.
thanks again for taking your time to share with us all this good information enjoyed watching take care my friend until next time
Cheers Ellis, I hope you're keeping well at this weird time! 👍
An extremely important topic! Very well done with excellent descriptions of each thing!! Subbed.
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Very informative. Thank you very much!
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Hi Craig,
Another area that needs consideration is people that photocopy or print a copy of their own or are given a copy of a map. Theres a couple of things that can go wrong here. These usually are re-scaling issues caused by the software or printer, or printing drift caused by mechanical wear of the printing system. Therefore it is good practice to check the size of your grid using a romer or the appropriate scale line on your compass. Checking for printer or copier drift is done by- Taking a straight edge (a 12' ruler) and placing it 45 degrees across the bottom left hand grid square. The straight edge is now laying at 45 degrees across the map. The bottom left and top right corners of the grid squares along the edge of the ruler should line up if they don't you have a drift issue and the map is compromised. Drift or Scale only have to be out slightly to cause major navigational issues and may not be immediately noticeable. So if you use copies always check. I hope I have managed to get the point across. Many thanks, Tony in Dublin.
Hi Terry... 😉
I must admit that I don't print any maps so your observation isn't something I have any experience of first-hand, however what you described makes perfect sense and I can certainly see it being a stumbling block for people that aren't aware of this potential error.
Thank you for taking the time to raise it, I hope other people find it valuable too.
Hi Craig,
Thank you for the kind words. I do photocopy maps. I usually plan my route, and photocopy the relevant 1-25000 map. I can mark this if needs be. This is then put into my map case. Used in conjunction with my route card and always at hand. I can fit about 6km square on each side of the case. I also carry the full relevant 1:50000 map in my pack if I need the bigger picture. MR Terry in Dublin 😉
Craig SAVIG thank you. Tony, Dublin
You're very welcome 👍
Good informative series on navigation.
Sussex Woodsman Thanks for the feedback and of course for watching, it's really appreciated. I take it from your username that you're based in Sussex? I live just East of Brighton myself.
Im Worthing way, will have to arrange a meet up at some point
Sussex Woodsman That's a damn fine idea! Let's have a chat soon and see if we can come up with a cunning plan! Just subbed to your channel btw.
Hi Craig. Do you have the recipe” for calculating the current GMAR from an old map’s data? Revisiting the basics to teach my young grandkids without getting overly complicated. Have never thought worked out current declination for MNorth :-(. Intrigued to try it.
My best map fail ever was trying to cycle the Cheshire ring using the maps I had in my stash which I bought for their beauty. The M6 wasn't on my map.
WOW! There must be some antiquities amongst those maps 😂😉
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment it's really appreciated.
If you like the look of my channel then please consider subscribing 😁
What tree are you leaning on? ;-)
Don't you start! ;-)
Acronyms are the enemy of communication lol!
Sparky Malarky and yet I remember most, of not all, of the military acronyms I learned 10+ years after leaving the Army! 😉
I spent several years in the MOD and learned to despise them lol.
Sparky Malarky Each to their own. I'm sure you were still a real asset.
I suspect we had even more than you guys to be frank. The fact I worked at RARDE (Royal Armaments Research and Development Establishment) says it all ;-) )
Do you not use DVAGS?
I guess not, I was always taught SAVIG and it just stuck with me over the years.
@@TheBushcraftPadawan I guess for us youngsters 😜 who use GPS in conjunction with m+C DVAGS is more relevant. Another great vid tho
Your orienteering map must be the biggest map in the world!!! 1cm=4cms.?? Back to map reading school, soldier!!
It was a slip of the tongue and was corrected by somebody else quite some time ago and acknowledged by myself as a mistake.
I'm wondering Bob, are you only viewing these videos to leave snipey comments?
@@TheBushcraftPadawan Sorry didn't see any acknowledgement. If I had I would not have bothered. I guess you are one of those people who do not respond well to criticism. I will, however, continue to point out mistakes, just so that others do not get misled. I am enjoying your series of videos, and I have picked up quite a few tips, so thankyou for that. Don't get so defensive.
@@madcat1007 I don't mind the feedback at all Bob, that's how people learn, but 100% of your initial responses over the past few days have been snarky / negative so it's hard to tell of you're genuinely providing feedback or just trolling.
Thank you for taking the the time watch, enjoy your weekend.