Timestamps. Please support the show and get extra content several times monthly with premium :) www.foundmyfitness.com/crowdsponsor 00:00:00 - In this episode 00:01:15 - What is "keto" 00:04:59- Types of ketogenic diets 00:11:44 - Lifestyle Ketogenic Diet 00:22:54 - Biomarkers and hyperlipidemia 00:25:59 - Micronutrients and supplementation 00:29:58 - Exogenous Ketones 00:52:07 - What's the optimal level of circulating ketones? 01:09:51 - Exercise performance and anti-catabolic effects 01:30:57 - Brain and memory 01:38:59 - Intermittent Fasting 01:48:04 - Neurodegenerative diseases 01:54:27 - Migraines 02:00:39 - Autoimmune disease 02:02:37 - Cancer 02:18:26 - Carnivore diet 02:24:45 - Dom's lifestyle habits 02:28:10 - Measuring ketones (see also 52:07) 02:40:10 - Learn more about Dom
dear Rhonda, thanks so much for giving this information to us freely, for the purpose of everyone having a better and actual knowledge. sorry to ask here, not a serious place to begin yt, but i hope u read, cause im hesitant to go to a dr here in costa, afraid they are not updated enough. im allergic to red meat...apparently not that many studdies, but may be a specific tick bite, which is a possibility since i rescue animals, although i cant kjnow rexactly when it started cause im vegetarian fro 20 years, but after a serious anemia at my 28s, i kind of went flexitarian, cause unfortunately where i live vegan supplements are hard to come by and expensive. a few times i tried pork or took a bite of a bbq. took me a while to realize since i only ate little here and there...until an epic blow up a few months ago, like i was allergic to peanuts and i ate a whole kilo, swollen everywhere, difficulty to breathe, horrible cramps. anyway u get the picture. my question is, have u heard about this? u know anywhere with updated info? i dont have lyme disease or other symptoms and also, do you think the vaccine could have been a problem if i had decided to have it? thank u and sorry for the inappropiate space to ask. =)
A lot of us have dramatically improved numbers on carnivore or animal-based diets. Improved trigs, HDL, etc. All enviable. Except LDL, which is way high. Only, where is the proof that the high LDL is a problem? Maybe I just use energy well, now. Less fiber is a feature, not a bug, for many of us with a connective tissue disease. I have hEDS, POTS, MCAS, Hashimoto's, sleep siezures, etc - all of which are improved. I'm 53, 22% bf, could be a bikini model. My gut has never been better. The fewer plants I eat, the less inflamed I am. Animal-based rules.
Look into the study about high LDL in people eating a very nutrient dense diet. The syndrome is called ‘ low mass hyper responder ‘ basically don’t worry about the high ldl .
@@staypawsative9119 Oh, I'm totally a LMHR. And not worried. But I don't qualify for Dave's study, as a former smoker. But thanks so much for making this point.
hi fellow zebra! may I ask a few questions? I've heard of only a handful of people with EDS(all heds) all with great benefits. ME TOO. I feel best with most meat but havent gone more than a few weeks..I need to... however none of us had gastroparesis or severe mcas. Do you know of anyone in the severe category that got over the hump from major starvation to reasonably well? the worst downside for me is when im nauseated and I cant drink or eat electrolytes as much and my neuro symptoms go nuts (i also may have a csf leak). last questions: how long have you been carnivore and do you supplement electrolytes? if so, how much? I've tried just doing sodium to taste and mag biglycinate but i feel so much better with potassium. I appreciate if I could pick your brain. so glad for your improvements.. most of the groups on fb get angsty but the cussack protocol group is more accepting. I also have a carnitine deficiency and my geneticist kinda I told you so'd even though its common without keto 😅 I have a "keto for chronic disease management" group if you wanna chat more! cheers, and "happy" EDS awareness month ❤
Need to consider micronutrients and phytochemicals with plant based foods involved in a balanced clean diet and eliminating processed foods, sugar and refined carbs, for long term health and slowing the aging process, gut health....
We're very excited about this episode with our co-organizer, Dr. D'Agostino! Can't wait to have you with us next week as our keynote speaker at MHS 2022! We hope your community joins us virtually or in-person!
Thank you for all your hard work Dr. Patrick. You are a gem. I'm deeply grateful to have you as a trusted resouce without having to dedicate my life to this. I'm almost finished with grad school to be a psychiatric nurse practitioner and love biology! I'm passionate about nutritional psychiatry and hope to be able to implement this into my practice.
Thank you so much for this note! I am so appreciative for people like you that are excited to learn and bring your passions to the clinic. It's really such a privilege. Best wishes!
Been waiting for a video on Ketogenic diet from Dr. Patrick for a long time. Seeing this on my RUclips recommendation felt like I won a lottery! Watched it twice so I can read the show notes and pay attention to the details. Love the in depth interviews Rhonda does. Thank you, thank you so much for sharing your hard work, valuable research and wisdom to rest of the world! I am a FAN! Cheers!
A high quality interview with two persons who are interested in getting the best from each other. Great insights into keto related issues, connecting several dots for me.
Anecdote - I struggled with bipolar disorder and anxiety for years. I've been doing a ~2.5:1 nutrient-dense keto diet for about 3.5 years, in that time my anxiety has been cut by 50% and I haven't had a significant mood episode. I'm actually able to work now and will be taking a job overseas in about a month. Keto (as an *add-on* to my quietiapine and lamotrigine) has given me my life back.
Thank you for sharing this. We hope to expand the research and educational outreach on "Metabolic-Psychiatry". We also plan to showcase the research even more at the next Metabolic Health Summit
add kefir to your diet! Do some water fast and restart your gut / repopulate. You might also also want to figure out which hormone is causing it...is it dopamine or norepinephrine or seratonin or your gut ? or vagus ? anxiety is complex. could even be your posture forward head pushing on a nerve etc Be careful about eye movement, Rest your eyes and do vagal exercises and deep stomach breaths
Decrease the acytle choline dominance in your body and raise the norepinephrine dominance i.e. by fasting 3 days with one powder spoon of Rhodiola one every month and less water. So that the dopamine dominance decreases .
This was excellent. Thanks Rhonda. All the stuff on Keto I see online is mostly silly. This was a nuanced and evidence based view. I especially appreciated when Dom clearly delineated what's scientific consensus or evidence vs case notes and individual experience. I've been time restricted feeding for years and you've just encouraged me to gain some of those benefits of ketosis with an early morning zone 2 cardio session.
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When it started keto 5 or 6 years ago, I was able to bring my weight down even while taking olsnzepine. I'm now taking far less medication, and I weigh far less. The biggest problem I've had with keto, is the hostility to it from the medical community. I do eat a lot of saturated fat and red meat, however.
I did keto for about eight or nine months I think I dropped 20 pounds I felt the best I’ve ever felt in my life but then something happened I kind of got this thing in my head that I was too thin and went off of it I don’t do a ton of carbs but I have cut back on my proteins I just can’t seem to get it in my head to get back on keto but I did really enjoy the feeling I got from it and everybody said I look great any advice?
@@michellev.8739 Changing our minds about our habits is hard. I have spiritual support that helps me make changes, but I find to kickstart keto, intermittent fasting helps. Don't snack before bed, then skip breakfast and lunch, and I then have a small snack before dinner, and then a full meal. If I go all in all at once for dinner, I overindulge. But I also didn't used to have carb- centered snack foods in the house early on, and today I snack, but on tasty low carb foods.
I was on olanzipine at one point as well, i gained 4 stone on it lol. The only thing that was able to keep the weight down was a ketogenic diet. well done on the weight loss btw, i know how hard it is on olanzipine.
Very cool podcast, thanks guys! The GABA/glutamate, cognitive perrformance and experimenting probably interest me the most. With all that talk about a ketogenic diet, I wonder if Dom and Rhonda would still agree with me in that just a mediterranian/nordic diet with varying macros and some fasting here and there would probably already contribute to most of the benefits the average person could obtain from diet alone? And I wonder if the average person and people who have issues with eating disorders and such wouldn't be better off actually staying away from a ketogenic or even low-carb approach, as the other factors involved, like worrying about what to eat, testing, planning, social interactions,...would contribute to a level of stress that ultimately they wouldn't gain any net benefit. Love and strength, Thomas
Good questions. I think someone with eating disorders should be monitored by a practitioner for safety and to work through their personal triggers. I wonder if exogenous ketones would be a good addition as a starting point to allow the brain to heal? it was a big eye opening watching the video (search dr boz spect scan) and included someone with an eating disorder. Was very eye opening. Most things need multidisciplinary approach, education, counselling. Im a binge eater and had to work thru my triggers, childhood stress events and how I eat. i hope keto clinics popup for these exact things in the near future and replace the "fat camps".
Excellent talk on keto with Dom! The conversation brings back some memories of when the ketogenic diet was slowing starting to become popular like a decade ago and health experts/doctors like Mercola, Rosedale, Mark, Dave, etc were recommending it. Awesome refresher for me 🖐 I gotta start tracking my ketones again for a little bit.
They say that ketosis lower the oxidative stress, inflammation and proliferation. But, is this state not good with a patient with cancer. Is not it ? Why? Because such a condition needs oxidative stress to damage the cancerous cells. What do you think ?
@@sberznji exogenous antioxidant supplements are not good once one has cancer and trying to fight it. So you are right in a way ..but Ketosis is a different beast, starving cancer cells, stimulates apoptosis. Chemo is the stress. So Ketosis works synergistically with chemo. Not a medical pro but that's what I recall from reading about this from various sources. Any experts out here reading this and want to chime in?
The interviewee has so much intervention into his body that he looks exhausted and not healthy at all. The body is not designed to run on ketogenic energy "all the time"; it is a back-up option for the body which should not be abused to that extent.
Goodday, i'm not saying you are right, i'm not saying you are wrong, but how did you come to this conclusion? based on which publications? Have a good day. Kind regards
@@kevinpronk2362 That was my personal experience. I think one needs to observe how his/her body reacts to kitogenesis. No academic publication can give you an exact answer.
it didnt work for me. i thought its going to be a magic bullet, but i guess not. BUT what i am most pissed off about is the ADVERTISEMENT like those TV ads after the late late night show where they keep lying to you. Now that youtube is quite huge, they just moved and advertise on here instead. Its the same infomercials for perfect life and weight, longevity. you will be the best and its simple, easy. Listen, watch, and obey our message!!!
Dominic D'Agostino is a straight up Super Bad Ass! Tim Ferriss even put him in his Book Tools For Titans. Which I Highly recommend for anyone try to upgrade themselves.
I’ve seen Dr. Longo on your channel talk about high carb/moderate fat/low protein diet (primarily plant-based) for overall health and longevity. That type of diet and keto are obviously incompatible. How do you reconcile the two?
let me take a stab at it. Not a medical pro, just read lot of health related articles and papers. it is the calorie restriction that ultimately helps. Low fat diet, low carb diet, high protein, carnivore, vegan all work in light of calorie deficit. the common culprit is sugar, refined carbs and processed food. Longo's low protein works in the context of a typical high carb. High carb+high protein=high IGF = Aging. Ketosis has it's own set of unique benefits for people with epilepsy and other conditions or autoimmune conditions. I did keto for a year and felt good, but it was no different from doing a "slow carb diet (tim Ferris)" or data driven fasting (Marty Kendall). I don't have any conditions that would benefit from Ketosis so it did not me make such an amazing change as some people say. I think what really helped me feel my best was energy defecit and minimizing blood glucose variability. All diets I have done that excludes sugars and processed food pretty much felt the same. For me the some distinct advantage keto has is - I was never hungry, I could run for a long time and not get hungry or tired. I am not a competitive athlete so it was not important but I can see how some athletes can benefit from Ketosis. I stopped keto as I don't think eliminating entire foods groups such as grams (lentils, beans, pulses) rich in polyphenols and fiber is good long term. I plan on doing cyclical keto to remain metabolically flexible. And do longo's 5 day prolon like diet once every quarter. PS: I tried Longo's prolon kit twice. Not impress with it. There is nothing to it except its severely calorie defecit and low protein and as a result down regulates mtor/ IGF1 and stimulus Ketosis/aptopsis etc. It's super expensive and has relatively high sugar. I will make my own kit next time or just do a water fast.
@@SunnyCLTExplain the black swan of the Kitavans. the Maasai and the French paradox then, I can pound down 2300 calories. mostly SFA along with a old guy friend of mine and not gain mass even on rest days. Does that mean your model is reductionist vegan or failed 'eat less move more' bulls00t?
Selenium deficiency? I thought things such as salmon and beef contained it? I heard supplemented selenium was only 10% bioavailable? How would someone optimise selenium levels, and how would keto influence their requirements and absorption?
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ALz prevention information was a good reminder for those of us on carnivore. We should only use it as a temporary tool and then return to modified keto with some fiber and MCT or ketone supplementation. Wondering best source of exogenous ketones
Carnivore is totally unnecessary. in fact I find it's prophets as bad as the vegan cults. what's more important is watching your T regulatory cell and Vitamin D levels. -Meat based keto sprinter here who still listens to longo and Sinclair (if only because a FMD allowed a old person I knew to lift and sprint with me for the first time in nearly a decade)
Dr Patrick could you talk about KEFIR and longevity ? there are lots of stories about it around the world and similar things like filmjölk onaka etc are consumed in northern europe, scandinavia and japan / greece etc so perhaps its a big component in the longevity puzzle ? ( basically gut microbiome ... )
Don't you think we should be eating like higher apes, chimps and bonobos? Don't you think folks will end up with type 2 diabetes on this diet since high fat in the liver and high fat in other human tissues appears to block insulin?
fat in liver and in the body is from sugar and release of insulin. except fructose and nearly 75% of fructose is stored in muscles/liver as fat but the harm is there without your blood sugar rising. This is bad when high glucose and high fat are together-- but NOT when sugar consumption is low as insulin is low. please read up on the order of food oxidation. glucose comes first after alcohol, so if you eat fat and sugar together, your body starts with using what it can of sugar, and all excess is stored as fat and fat too. the benefit of eating high fat very low sugar, is you no longer use sugar for fuel, you use fat by making them into ketones and because you use the fat for fuel, your fat in your blood goes down (low triglycerides). because your body has low hunger and can constantly use body fat, you lose weight and keep insulin low. this includes burning liver fat (which leads to t2 diabetes). so No, ketogenic diet is a low insulin diet and you can eat plant based keto too and be carnivore keto too. check out heavenly fan shes vegan, however I do not believe in human cruelty even to ones self. optimal nutrition is eating animal based and cant understand why someone would choose to be suboptimal at the detriment of themselves. Saturated fats are the most stable. Animal based vitamins are best absorbed by far. Need appropriate absorbable proteins on a large scale basis. We need animals to replace what's lost from our topsoil. stay safe
What's the value of fibre if it's absent in a carnivore diet? If you are eating plant matter - esp. carbs - you'd need fibre. Why would we need no fibre on a carnivore diet? Prove we do. "There's such a lack of evidence" - Dr. Rhonda Patrick. Consider indigenous native communities, esp. the Inuit in N Canada / Greenland. There are NO carbs in the North. Not much in the way of plant matter in their diet, ever (some berries for a couple weeks in the summer, but you gotta fight bears for them & they're found more in the southern range of the North, if at all). Controlled experiment: they never leave the lab (it's a thousand mile trip). Long duration: how's a thousand years sound? On their natural diet, there was zero incidence observed of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, dementia, & they lived long & robust lives: reliably lived to 75-80+ & were still running beside the sled (nomadic & that sled is tiny - they couldn't carry you). Granted, they quit the "natural" diet the minute white whalers showed up with tea, sugar & flour. And from that point forward, diabetes is rampant, dementia the norm with age, cancer & heart disease normal. They have no genetic adaptation to accommodate carb processing. But while they stayed on a "natural" diet (pure keto, in fact carnivore-keto), they were fine. Healthy, robust, strong. If they were eating plants, yeah they'd need prebiotics & fibre to process that stuff. If you're on a carnivore diet now, it isn't clear why you'd need fibre in your diet.
I started keto 4 months ago. At the beginning my ketones were high, 3.5. My mind was so clear. I felt amazing. I now find it difficult to keep my ketones up, not sure why, maybe too much protein. The brain fog has returned somewhat, sadly, though my weight has stayed low. Getting my cholesterol checked the end of the week, if it's good I'll keep trying to get those ketones up.
Late to the game, but consider dropping your PUFA and upping your SFA intake. High protein can actually surprisingly be toxic (unless you're a Croatian athlete juicing on PEDs and steroids) unless you put it to use like exercise. for there is only so much storage in the amino acid pool
@@sleepinglaffey3886 I started Ketovore 7 months ago to stop 2 monthly seizures. I just started MCT with 75% C8 & am waiting to see what happens at the end of this month. For some reason (hormoonal?) they come at the same time my hormones changed, I am now 62. I have been trying to work out which Dietician or Dr would be best to try to get a consultation with. It is hard with so many & they all have different ideas, especially when it comes to vegetables & fruit.
Your mind was clear because your body had enough fat stores to consume, but once you hit a certain low body fat %, I believe you will potentially experience brainfog due to lack of sugar in the brain, that is at least what I experience. I do weight lifting and when I am done bulking (storing fat while getting much muscle as possible), I go on a keto diet, and it's amazing how fast I lose weight and how good I feel, but once I hit a certain level of weight loss, the body won't burn more fat into ketones, it's trying to spend as little fat as possible, and this is where I personally get brain fogs and start to feel horrible, at this point MCT oil is a huge help to combat brain fog but I don't think a low carb/low fat keto diet is good once you a low in body fat, you need to start add in good healthy fats once you're on your ideal weight .
22:17 Dom is referring to CPT1 which is arguably not an error. It is commonly found only in coastal arctic communities so it isn't studied well. It is related to SIDS, but folks who have one or even both alleles do not die from ketosis beyond the age of like 6. Why is he claiming that people with this extremely rare genetic mutation can die from keto? Especially considering the traditional diet in coastal arctic communities. I've read one study that recommended children with CPT1 should basically avoid ketosis, but there doesn't seem to be a consenses and telling adults to avoid their traditional diet is bad advice.
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I know when I'm in Ketosis because my eyes open wider (nice bug eyed feeling) and my energy levels are so undepletable, that energy levels at 4pm are the same as my energy at 9am. I have never knocked myself out of Ketosis with dark, low glycemic greens. But I also prefer to eat them uncooked. Keto since my research initially ended in 2018, listening to Dom, He sold me the car.
these 2 understand more about studies than most. the ratios of fat protein carbs are much different and some studies try to use that to go against ketogenic diets- that I do know. I've seen many in plant based community using animal studies and not declaring it. transparency is important.
Did Dom sort of skip over the cancer part? Rhonda asks about certain cancer cells USING ketones as fuel (which does certainly happen). Seems to me like Dom just skips over that and goes Into the benefits of keto & cancer instead.
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As someone with a history of brain surgery, stroke, epilepsy and a genetic condition that creates brain lesions, this diet sounds very helpful. However, I feel like I would need way more brain power to get/stay on it than I currently have. 😅
My Hemaglobin A1c has gone down to 5.4 on a low fat diet. That is limiting fat to about 30-40 grams per day, or 10-15% calories from fat. Protein about 15% and the rest is complex carbohydrates like whole grains, berries, vegetables, fruit. Previously my Hb A1c was 5.6-5.8.
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Some old guy I knew also has their A1c go down from 9.0 to 5.4 as well when they did a meat based keto diet with me as well. you vegans really need to step up your propgandpa efforts...
@@sleepinglaffey3886 I wasn't saying that a keto diet could not have similar results in lowering A1c. I was highlighting that it is not carbohydrates that is the problem. It is refined industrialized carbohydrates that are dangerous for people. And it seems that a diet rich in refined carbohydrates and high in fat that is really bad. No where did I attack the keto diet. But it seems your comment was rather negative towards vegans. Also, I don't consider myself a vegan, which is a very moral stance, but rather whole food plant based.
@@lancegillette5550 There are also the Black Swans of the Kitavans (refined carbs), Tukisentans. the Tsimane (refined carbs), the Tokelauans and the French Paradox (More refined carbs combined with high fat) in itself. You vegan cultists and more than likely you as a closeted one cannot explain these along with the carnivore cult. do you? My old friend would have ended up sarcopenic obese if they did WFPB like you but surprise, they're still lifting and going with me (Yes, we did a bulletproof FMD. and we still do it to this day) and we still listen to Longo's and Sinclair's work because THEY produce results.
@@sleepinglaffey3886He isn't propagating a vegan diet. He's villifying processed and refined foods, advocating real whole foods. And also not the combination of high fat, high carb. Both together is detrimental to health. One or the other can be healthy.
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I tried Keto, lost weight felt good but my triglycerides, LDL, and other heart bio markers went sky high. Have FTO homozygous polymorphs and others polymorphisms that are not favorable for sat fat. I will stick w/Dr. Valter Longo and Satchin Panda-Mediterranean diet and IF with some EF fasts thrown in. The blue zone cultures do not practice Keto and are mostly plant based with small amounts of meat. The longest lived Americans are seventh day Adventist w/Loma Linda study and they are plant based, no alcohol or smoking.
I'm so glad you brought all of these points up. I totally agree with you that that the longest lived ppl in the world are not on Keto and in mice experiments on 90% fats (which is a very restrictive diet) only very slightly increased lifespan. The one benefit it does have is better memory conservation, some benefits in physiological healthspan but nothing really significant vs some other different healthy diets eg Mediterranean/flexitarian (which is what I do). For autophagy and effective ketosis, I do longer TRF (22:2 or 21:3) + I do slightly longer fasts eg 48 hrs around 2-3 times a month. I have never done 3 days+ because you start breaking down muscle (even if you do muscle building exercise and increase growth hormone). To greatly lower glucose , LDL, TG, insulin after meals I take berberine with quercetin, ginger, vit B complex, vit D, chromium, fenugreek, fish oil - really helps to get you faster into ketosis and these are all safe and natural in smaller doses. The other thing is 1-2 tbsp of apple cidar vinegar diluted in 1 glass of water each morning/ with meals>> gets your sugars down and kickstarts fat burning. You should however eat more veggies with potassium if you use any apple cidar vinegar to prevent potassium loss. The best part is that I still can have carbs and protein and healthy fats and have great health, lose weight (I'm a very slim gal), even eat things like pie, higher carb veggies etc (which is almost impossible on keto) and still look a lot younger than my age and have 0 health issues. Anyway everyone has a different regimen but the above has been a game changer for me.
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@@homesignup I 100% agree. I don't have to do keto diet to be in ketosis. IF does that. Running while fasting does it even faster. I have not seen any evidence of actual long term keto people that lived long, if anything most famous keto advocates have died rather young. Another reason I decided to stop keto and do a lowish carb Mediterranean. Planning on doing CKD couple times a year
Hi Sandra, a month after starting keto my heart bio markers also shot up when tested, but I just reduced the MCT oil in my diet, but otherwise stayed low carb moderate fat and after 6 months my heart bio markers were back into the healthy range, so your body, at least in my case, did adjust. Once your metabolism is fat adapted, there are many benefits, particularly for long distance running.
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But have you experienced those negatives yourself? The phytochemicals you talk about is found to create hormetic stress and induce a state of hormesis. This is not bad, it is a good thing. Furthermore a diverse and healthy gut microbiome is essential. Eat your veggies!
@@islandboy9580 I agree with some people have issues. But if you isolate the phytochemicals and start with eleminating one group at a time e.g. nightshade veggies which contains lectin. You may find what you specifically can't tolerate. Then you can still get good benefit from hormesis and the nutrients vegetables gives you. It is the same with allergies. Same approach. But don't fear it if you have no side effects eating plants and greens.
@@Nicolailund15 how do you know plants arent only essential to people. eating carbs or poor diets? is butyrate from the gut better than making human synthesized betahydroxy butyrate and getting butyrate that way? does a wider array of biome bugs equally beneficial when not eating sugar based diet? I need to see data side by side in high and low insulin states, carnivore vs plant based, all dirty vs clean.
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If a ketogenic diet is so good, why did the Inuits develop a mutation that kept them from going into ketosis despite a diet that consisted entirely of meat and fat? This means that those who did not develop this mutation died off. Complex carbs are the keystone of all the longest lived populations on earth. While temporary ketosis via fasting is beneficial from time to time because of apoptosis, continual ketosis is nonsense.
Complex carbs are definitely not a keystone. Do you really think our ancestors had access to complex carbs? You're thinking way too short term. Corn, grains, roots, tubers, have only been in use for the last 5 to 10 thousand years. Our ancestors have been eating meat for around for 2 million years. Then cooked meat probably started out brain evolution. They likely ate meat, green plants, and fruit. And fruit is only edible in the spring and early summer. To me, if they were lucky, they were in ketosis for most of the year except spring when fruits and berries were available. Then they eat as much fruit as possible. That gets insulin, the fat storage hormone, working full time. Their bodies store the fat. Then when fruit goes out of season, they enter ketosis again while only eating plants and meat. To me the problem with the modern diet is there is no balance between insulin and glucagon. Is definitely insulin heavy because people are eating a constant supply of carbs that they don't not need because they aren't getting exercise, where insulin has to keep removing sugar from your blood and almost no glucagon that has to supply sugar to you blood. Where in ketosis, you are still eating carbs, up to 50g a day, plenty for most. So when you get those carbs, your body has a very slight increase in insulin to remove the glucose from blood. Then when you don't have carbs for a while, glucagon comes out and has to supply your blood with glucose to prevent low blood sugar, just like insulin prevents high blood sugar. It's a constant seesaw balance unlike the modern diets.
Interesting thought, what is your sources? If you eat only meat and fat gluconeogenesis occurs. So why would it be a problem to be in ketosis for inuits?
Lol inuits are like the model for keto. Where'd you hear that they can't go into keto? Before agriculture, carbs were extremely limited and seasonal. We thrive on carnivore/keto diets.
Complex carbs are not in any shape or form the keystone in better health . Actually recent studies show average population is dying a couple years earlier than previous years. Living a life of medications and health problems is not living . Carbs high insulin is the cause of the majority of health problems today. Our body produces its own carbs we do not need to add it in our
@@staypawsative9119 Quote the sources of the references you allude to so vaguely. Complex carbs do not cause insulin spikes, how could you not know this? The longest lived populations on earth are all carb based. Longest is vegetarian Seventh Day Adventists, second traditional Okinawan diet. Even the past experts on ketogenic diets now have stepped it back to include more carbs and just avoid insulin spikes. What you are spouting is nonsense. And of course you totally ignored the matter of the Inuit mutation that prevents them from going into ketosis despite a diet of protein and fat. Because those who went into continual ketosis died off. While it is good to go into ketosis for the purpose of apoptosis from time to time, avoiding complex carbs is utter nonsense. In fact I don't have time to educate a keto fanboy. Look at this and learn something before you spout uneducated mimes ruclips.net/video/MyOACAdvAsE/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/tKGK2saMd7s/видео.html
I don't like fish, avocados, olives, vegetables, lean meat, egg whites, or low fat dairy. But I have the ApoE4 allele, so I have to eat the foods I do not like and restrict the foods I enjoy to prevent heart disease and Alzheimer's.
I agree he has lost a lot of weight. Potentially he is tinkering around for longevity markers by reducing body mass? Only he could tell us if he chose to reduce mass for specific reasons.
@@andypagakis It seems hard to believe if he felt it was harming his health or not improving his health he would re-adjust calories, workout, etc. to maintain or increase body mass. Everything he does is a self experiment N of 1 he does on himself toward optimal health which you hear throughout this entire video. I'm guessing he felt being 'jacked / muscular' and having excess muscle mass was not really benefiting him from a biomarker or longevity standpoint so he decided to reduce overall body mass. Again all just a guess but I'm trying to give him credit based on all previous videos I have seen of him always tinkering with his own diet / exercise to improve his biomarkers.
Where would people with ApoE4 have historically eaten olive oil, avocados, and salmon if they did not live in the Mediterranean region, Mexico, or areas with salmon?
In the beginning of this he is using ratios, 1 to 1, 4 to 1, etc. What is he referring to. What are the elements of the ratios? Oops. Sorry, I actually watched as opposed to just listening. Thanks
Humans have flat square teeth just like all the plant-eating vegetarian species. We have grown the 2 front sharper canine teeth over thousands of years to adapt to eating meat. I prefer getting my protein and fats from plant sources only.
I have been taking ketone ester for a week and I was like a zombie. I used to drink ketone salt and Bulletproof coffee in the morning without considering but I understood why it was good. Thank you so much Rhonda and Dom.
The term "well-designed ketogenic diet" is utterly absurd. Ketogenesis is the body's process for surviving in times of food scarcity. It's literally a survival mechanism and the human body was clearly not meant to remain in a state of ketogenesis for sustained periods of time. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you.
Even if you want to make the argument that a ketogenic diet is inappropriate for a person to consume long-term under any formulation (Dom seems robustly healthy, by the way), saying that it cannot be well-designed seems pretty silly: it's clearly therapeutically beneficial for someone with epilepsy, for example. From the standpoint of doing a ketogenic diet for epilepsy, wouldn't you agree that it could be well-designed for *that*? What about preventing mitigating incidental micronutrient deficiencies? One of the key things that Dom gets across in this interview is balancing the diet in spite of its restrictions.
@@FoundMyFitness I would absolutely make the case that a ketogenic diet is inappropriate for a person to consume long-term. I agree that I should have worded my response differently to not be so all-encompassing. Yes, the ketogenic diet can be beneficial in the specific application of dealing with epilepsy. However, that does not mean that the person is any healthier than they otherwise would be, only that the symptoms of their epilepsy have been relieved. The vast majority of people watching this video do not have epilepsy and that only accounts for 1.2% of the population. I think that this discussion would greatly benefit from providing a sweeping picture of the human, human ancestors, and chimpanzee and bonobo digestive systems and dietary history to give the viewer a more complete picture of what their body was designed to consume.
@@paredown.an you explain why some Asian guy I'm with and we're skinny as hell after doing keto rich in SFA and low in unsaturates for nearly over a year now? Explain why that guy I'm with can exercise again. is no longer diabetic and can enjoy life despite restrictions? Explain why we easily did several Fasting mimicking cycles this year using bulletproof coffee and tea?
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00:00:00 - In this episode
00:01:15 - What is "keto"
00:04:59- Types of ketogenic diets
00:11:44 - Lifestyle Ketogenic Diet
00:22:54 - Biomarkers and hyperlipidemia
00:25:59 - Micronutrients and supplementation
00:29:58 - Exogenous Ketones
00:52:07 - What's the optimal level of circulating ketones?
01:09:51 - Exercise performance and anti-catabolic effects
01:30:57 - Brain and memory
01:38:59 - Intermittent Fasting
01:48:04 - Neurodegenerative diseases
01:54:27 - Migraines
02:00:39 - Autoimmune disease
02:02:37 - Cancer
02:18:26 - Carnivore diet
02:24:45 - Dom's lifestyle habits
02:28:10 - Measuring ketones (see also 52:07)
02:40:10 - Learn more about Dom
Je suis assez ennuyé avec ce régime, surtout suite à la lecture du livre du Dr Gregger et l’incidence sur l’insulinémie
dear Rhonda, thanks so much for giving this information to us freely, for the purpose of everyone having a better and actual knowledge. sorry to ask here, not a serious place to begin yt, but i hope u read, cause im hesitant to go to a dr here in costa, afraid they are not updated enough. im allergic to red meat...apparently not that many studdies, but may be a specific tick bite, which is a possibility since i rescue animals, although i cant kjnow rexactly when it started cause im vegetarian fro 20 years, but after a serious anemia at my 28s, i kind of went flexitarian, cause unfortunately where i live vegan supplements are hard to come by and expensive. a few times i tried pork or took a bite of a bbq. took me a while to realize since i only ate little here and there...until an epic blow up a few months ago, like i was allergic to peanuts and i ate a whole kilo, swollen everywhere, difficulty to breathe, horrible cramps. anyway u get the picture. my question is, have u heard about this? u know anywhere with updated info? i dont have lyme disease or other symptoms and also, do you think the vaccine could have been a problem if i had decided to have it? thank u and sorry for the inappropiate space to ask. =)
A lot of us have dramatically improved numbers on carnivore or animal-based diets. Improved trigs, HDL, etc. All enviable. Except LDL, which is way high. Only, where is the proof that the high LDL is a problem? Maybe I just use energy well, now. Less fiber is a feature, not a bug, for many of us with a connective tissue disease. I have hEDS, POTS, MCAS, Hashimoto's, sleep siezures, etc - all of which are improved. I'm 53, 22% bf, could be a bikini model. My gut has never been better. The fewer plants I eat, the less inflamed I am. Animal-based rules.
I’m 53 as well and find the same. After 25 years pescatarian, 90% animal based now 💪
Look into the study about high LDL in people eating a very nutrient dense diet. The syndrome is called ‘ low mass hyper responder ‘ basically don’t worry about the high ldl .
@@staypawsative9119 Oh, I'm totally a LMHR. And not worried. But I don't qualify for Dave's study, as a former smoker. But thanks so much for making this point.
hi fellow zebra! may I ask a few questions? I've heard of only a handful of people with EDS(all heds) all with great benefits. ME TOO. I feel best with most meat but havent gone more than a few weeks..I need to... however none of us had gastroparesis or severe mcas. Do you know of anyone in the severe category that got over the hump from major starvation to reasonably well? the worst downside for me is when im nauseated and I cant drink or eat electrolytes as much and my neuro symptoms go nuts (i also may have a csf leak). last questions: how long have you been carnivore and do you supplement electrolytes? if so, how much? I've tried just doing sodium to taste and mag biglycinate but i feel so much better with potassium. I appreciate if I could pick your brain. so glad for your improvements.. most of the groups on fb get angsty but the cussack protocol group is more accepting. I also have a carnitine deficiency and my geneticist kinda I told you so'd even though its common without keto 😅 I have a "keto for chronic disease management" group if you wanna chat more! cheers, and "happy" EDS awareness month ❤
Need to consider micronutrients and phytochemicals with plant based foods involved in a balanced clean diet and eliminating processed foods, sugar and refined carbs, for long term health and slowing the aging process, gut health....
I just started fasting two days ago. Love when my diet syncs up with Rhonda's podcasts!
We're very excited about this episode with our co-organizer, Dr. D'Agostino! Can't wait to have you with us next week as our keynote speaker at MHS 2022! We hope your community joins us virtually or in-person!
Can you please share info on your upcoming conference? Where can we join and/or watch the show? Thanks
You all are totally awesome! Wish I had tons of money to participate on all levels!
Thank you for all your hard work Dr. Patrick. You are a gem. I'm deeply grateful to have you as a trusted resouce without having to dedicate my life to this. I'm almost finished with grad school to be a psychiatric nurse practitioner and love biology! I'm passionate about nutritional psychiatry and hope to be able to implement this into my practice.
Thank you so much for this note! I am so appreciative for people like you that are excited to learn and bring your passions to the clinic. It's really such a privilege. Best wishes!
Been waiting for a video on Ketogenic diet from Dr. Patrick for a long time. Seeing this on my RUclips recommendation felt like I won a lottery! Watched it twice so I can read the show notes and pay attention to the details. Love the in depth interviews Rhonda does. Thank you, thank you so much for sharing your hard work, valuable research and wisdom to rest of the world! I am a FAN! Cheers!
A high quality interview with two persons who are interested in getting the best from each other. Great insights into keto related issues, connecting several dots for me.
Anecdote - I struggled with bipolar disorder and anxiety for years. I've been doing a ~2.5:1 nutrient-dense keto diet for about 3.5 years, in that time my anxiety has been cut by 50% and I haven't had a significant mood episode. I'm actually able to work now and will be taking a job overseas in about a month. Keto (as an *add-on* to my quietiapine and lamotrigine) has given me my life back.
Thank you for sharing this. We hope to expand the research and educational outreach on "Metabolic-Psychiatry". We also plan to showcase the research even more at the next Metabolic Health Summit
add kefir to your diet! Do some water fast and restart your gut / repopulate. You might also also want to figure out which hormone is causing it...is it dopamine or norepinephrine or seratonin or your gut ? or vagus ? anxiety is complex. could even be your posture forward head pushing on a nerve etc Be careful about eye movement, Rest your eyes and do vagal exercises and deep stomach breaths
Decrease the acytle choline dominance in your body and raise the norepinephrine dominance i.e. by fasting 3 days with one powder spoon of Rhodiola one every month and less water. So that the dopamine dominance decreases .
Lamotrigine decreases the glutamate to decrease A.ch which will raise norepinephrine. While quitapine antagonists DA straight !
Stop drugs. Take ketones that raises gaba and reduces A.CH AS WELL
This was excellent. Thanks Rhonda. All the stuff on Keto I see online is mostly silly. This was a nuanced and evidence based view. I especially appreciated when Dom clearly delineated what's scientific consensus or evidence vs case notes and individual experience. I've been time restricted feeding for years and you've just encouraged me to gain some of those benefits of ketosis with an early morning zone 2 cardio session.
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May I ask why not through the diet portion while eating as well? thanks
I heard that a person can lose weight if they don't eat food...go figure! Keto Rocks!!!
When it started keto 5 or 6 years ago, I was able to bring my weight down even while taking olsnzepine. I'm now taking far less medication, and I weigh far less. The biggest problem I've had with keto, is the hostility to it from the medical community. I do eat a lot of saturated fat and red meat, however.
I did keto for about eight or nine months I think I dropped 20 pounds I felt the best I’ve ever felt in my life but then something happened I kind of got this thing in my head that I was too thin and went off of it I don’t do a ton of carbs but I have cut back on my proteins I just can’t seem to get it in my head to get back on keto but I did really enjoy the feeling I got from it and everybody said I look great any advice?
@@michellev.8739 Changing our minds about our habits is hard. I have spiritual support that helps me make changes, but I find to kickstart keto, intermittent fasting helps. Don't snack before bed, then skip breakfast and lunch, and I then have a small snack before dinner, and then a full meal. If I go all in all at once for dinner, I overindulge. But I also didn't used to have carb- centered snack foods in the house early on, and today I snack, but on tasty low carb foods.
I was on olanzipine at one point as well, i gained 4 stone on it lol. The only thing that was able to keep the weight down was a ketogenic diet. well done on the weight loss btw, i know how hard it is on olanzipine.
Very cool podcast, thanks guys! The GABA/glutamate, cognitive perrformance and experimenting probably interest me the most.
With all that talk about a ketogenic diet, I wonder if Dom and Rhonda would still agree with me in that just a mediterranian/nordic diet with varying macros and some fasting here and there would probably already contribute to most of the benefits the average person could obtain from diet alone? And I wonder if the average person and people who have issues with eating disorders and such wouldn't be better off actually staying away from a ketogenic or even low-carb approach, as the other factors involved, like worrying about what to eat, testing, planning, social interactions,...would contribute to a level of stress that ultimately they wouldn't gain any net benefit.
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Good questions. I think someone with eating disorders should be monitored by a practitioner for safety and to work through their personal triggers. I wonder if exogenous ketones would be a good addition as a starting point to allow the brain to heal? it was a big eye opening watching the video (search dr boz spect scan) and included someone with an eating disorder. Was very eye opening. Most things need multidisciplinary approach, education, counselling. Im a binge eater and had to work thru my triggers, childhood stress events and how I eat. i hope keto clinics popup for these exact things in the near future and replace the "fat camps".
Many people with eating disorders got better after keto, carnivore.
Mediterranean is not optimal, better than fast foods but too much plants, grains
Please leave the explanatory notes up for at least 5 seconds longer than current times. Great notes BUT older 👀 and slower processing at 70 here
You should pause the video 😉 even 5 seconds longer wouldn’t be enough
The 4:1 ketogenic diet example he gave was a 4,000 calorie day 😳
Excellent talk on keto with Dom! The conversation brings back some memories of when the ketogenic diet was slowing starting to become popular like a decade ago and health experts/doctors like Mercola, Rosedale, Mark, Dave, etc were recommending it. Awesome refresher for me 🖐 I gotta start tracking my ketones again for a little bit.
They say that ketosis lower the oxidative stress, inflammation and proliferation. But, is this state not good with a patient with cancer. Is not it ? Why? Because such a condition needs oxidative stress to damage the cancerous cells. What do you think ?
@@sberznji exogenous antioxidant supplements are not good once one has cancer and trying to fight it. So you are right in a way ..but Ketosis is a different beast, starving cancer cells, stimulates apoptosis. Chemo is the stress. So Ketosis works synergistically with chemo. Not a medical pro but that's what I recall from reading about this from various sources. Any experts out here reading this and want to chime in?
I now know that I know nothing.
The interviewee has so much intervention into his body that he looks exhausted and not healthy at all. The body is not designed to run on ketogenic energy "all the time"; it is a back-up option for the body which should not be abused to that extent.
Goodday, i'm not saying you are right, i'm not saying you are wrong, but how did you come to this conclusion? based on which publications? Have a good day. Kind regards
@@kevinpronk2362 That was my personal experience. I think one needs to observe how his/her body reacts to kitogenesis. No academic publication can give you an exact answer.
it didnt work for me. i thought its going to be a magic bullet, but i guess not. BUT what i am most pissed off about is the ADVERTISEMENT like those TV ads after the late late night show where they keep lying to you. Now that youtube is quite huge, they just moved and advertise on here instead. Its the same infomercials for perfect life and weight, longevity. you will be the best and its simple, easy. Listen, watch, and obey our message!!!
Dominic D'Agostino is a straight up Super Bad Ass!
Tim Ferriss even put him in his Book Tools For Titans. Which I Highly recommend for anyone try to upgrade themselves.
I’ve seen Dr. Longo on your channel talk about high carb/moderate fat/low protein diet (primarily plant-based) for overall health and longevity. That type of diet and keto are obviously incompatible. How do you reconcile the two?
let me take a stab at it. Not a medical pro, just read lot of health related articles and papers. it is the calorie restriction that ultimately helps. Low fat diet, low carb diet, high protein, carnivore, vegan all work in light of calorie deficit. the common culprit is sugar, refined carbs and processed food. Longo's low protein works in the context of a typical high carb. High carb+high protein=high IGF = Aging. Ketosis has it's own set of unique benefits for people with epilepsy and other conditions or autoimmune conditions. I did keto for a year and felt good, but it was no different from doing a "slow carb diet (tim Ferris)" or data driven fasting (Marty Kendall). I don't have any conditions that would benefit from Ketosis so it did not me make such an amazing change as some people say. I think what really helped me feel my best was energy defecit and minimizing blood glucose variability. All diets I have done that excludes sugars and processed food pretty much felt the same. For me the some distinct advantage keto has is - I was never hungry, I could run for a long time and not get hungry or tired. I am not a competitive athlete so it was not important but I can see how some athletes can benefit from Ketosis. I stopped keto as I don't think eliminating entire foods groups such as grams (lentils, beans, pulses) rich in polyphenols and fiber is good long term. I plan on doing cyclical keto to remain metabolically flexible. And do longo's 5 day prolon like diet once every quarter.
PS: I tried Longo's prolon kit twice. Not impress with it. There is nothing to it except its severely calorie defecit and low protein and as a result down regulates mtor/ IGF1 and stimulus Ketosis/aptopsis etc. It's super expensive and has relatively high sugar. I will make my own kit next time or just do a water fast.
@@SunnyCLT Good info. Thanks for taking the effort to share.
@@hillsofwi you are welcome, just noticed the typos in my previous reply. Oh well.
@@SunnyCLTExplain the black swan of the Kitavans. the Maasai and the French paradox then, I can pound down 2300 calories. mostly SFA along with a old guy friend of mine and not gain mass even on rest days. Does that mean your model is reductionist vegan or failed 'eat less move more' bulls00t?
Selenium deficiency? I thought things such as salmon and beef contained it? I heard supplemented selenium was only 10% bioavailable? How would someone optimise selenium levels, and how would keto influence their requirements and absorption?
a few Brazil nuts a day. you can eat too much, Im not sure of the limit, so not to go overboard. ppl say 3 per day.
8 minutes in and his explanations are not clear…
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ALz prevention information was a good reminder for those of us on carnivore. We should only use it as a temporary tool and then return to modified keto with some fiber and MCT or ketone supplementation. Wondering best source of exogenous ketones
Carnivore is totally unnecessary. in fact I find it's prophets as bad as the vegan cults. what's more important is watching your T regulatory cell and Vitamin D levels. -Meat based keto sprinter here who still listens to longo and Sinclair (if only because a FMD allowed a old person I knew to lift and sprint with me for the first time in nearly a decade)
Love using exo ketones before mountain biking, next level focus and performance for me.
Cool. Where do you get them from?
@@Wds__99 I use the pruvit versions.
Do you follow a keto diet?
@@JohnSmith-zs1bf currently I’m tinkering with animal based so meat fruit and honey. Use product in the morning and intermittent fast or exercise.
Exo ketones means MCT oil ????
Isn’t BHB in butter, eggs, whole milk, grass fed beef, avocado? Why do we need fiber then as a substrate?
Thank you!
Any chance for a show on Peripheral Neuropathy?
Dr Patrick could you talk about KEFIR and longevity ? there are lots of stories about it around the world and similar things like filmjölk onaka etc are consumed in northern europe, scandinavia and japan / greece etc so perhaps its a big component in the longevity puzzle ? ( basically gut microbiome ... )
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How does BHB different from gamma hydroxybutyrate? Can you supplement with GHB during sleep to obtain the benefits?
Don't you think we should be eating like higher apes, chimps and bonobos? Don't you think folks will end up with type 2 diabetes on this diet since high fat in the liver and high fat in other human tissues appears to block insulin?
fat in liver and in the body is from sugar and release of insulin. except fructose and nearly 75% of fructose is stored in muscles/liver as fat but the harm is there without your blood sugar rising. This is bad when high glucose and high fat are together-- but NOT when sugar consumption is low as insulin is low. please read up on the order of food oxidation. glucose comes first after alcohol, so if you eat fat and sugar together, your body starts with using what it can of sugar, and all excess is stored as fat and fat too. the benefit of eating high fat very low sugar, is you no longer use sugar for fuel, you use fat by making them into ketones and because you use the fat for fuel, your fat in your blood goes down (low triglycerides). because your body has low hunger and can constantly use body fat, you lose weight and keep insulin low. this includes burning liver fat (which leads to t2 diabetes). so No, ketogenic diet is a low insulin diet and you can eat plant based keto too and be carnivore keto too. check out heavenly fan shes vegan, however I do not believe in human cruelty even to ones self. optimal nutrition is eating animal based and cant understand why someone would choose to be suboptimal at the detriment of themselves. Saturated fats are the most stable. Animal based vitamins are best absorbed by far. Need appropriate absorbable proteins on a large scale basis. We need animals to replace what's lost from our topsoil. stay safe
What's the value of fibre if it's absent in a carnivore diet? If you are eating plant matter - esp. carbs - you'd need fibre. Why would we need no fibre on a carnivore diet? Prove we do. "There's such a lack of evidence" - Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
Consider indigenous native communities, esp. the Inuit in N Canada / Greenland. There are NO carbs in the North. Not much in the way of plant matter in their diet, ever (some berries for a couple weeks in the summer, but you gotta fight bears for them & they're found more in the southern range of the North, if at all). Controlled experiment: they never leave the lab (it's a thousand mile trip). Long duration: how's a thousand years sound? On their natural diet, there was zero incidence observed of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, dementia, & they lived long & robust lives: reliably lived to 75-80+ & were still running beside the sled (nomadic & that sled is tiny - they couldn't carry you). Granted, they quit the "natural" diet the minute white whalers showed up with tea, sugar & flour. And from that point forward, diabetes is rampant, dementia the norm with age, cancer & heart disease normal. They have no genetic adaptation to accommodate carb processing. But while they stayed on a "natural" diet (pure keto, in fact carnivore-keto), they were fine. Healthy, robust, strong.
If they were eating plants, yeah they'd need prebiotics & fibre to process that stuff.
If you're on a carnivore diet now, it isn't clear why you'd need fibre in your diet.
I started keto 4 months ago. At the beginning my ketones were high, 3.5. My mind was so clear. I felt amazing. I now find it difficult to keep my ketones up, not sure why, maybe too much protein. The brain fog has returned somewhat, sadly, though my weight has stayed low. Getting my cholesterol checked the end of the week, if it's good I'll keep trying to get those ketones up.
Late to the game, but consider dropping your PUFA and upping your SFA intake. High protein can actually surprisingly be toxic (unless you're a Croatian athlete juicing on PEDs and steroids) unless you put it to use like exercise. for there is only so much storage in the amino acid pool
@@sleepinglaffey3886 I started Ketovore 7 months ago to stop 2 monthly seizures. I just started MCT with 75% C8 & am waiting to see what happens at the end of this month. For some reason (hormoonal?) they come at the same time my hormones changed, I am now 62. I have been trying to work out which Dietician or Dr would be best to try to get a consultation with. It is hard with so many & they all have different ideas, especially when it comes to vegetables & fruit.
Your mind was clear because your body had enough fat stores to consume, but once you hit a certain low body fat %, I believe you will potentially experience brainfog due to lack of sugar in the brain, that is at least what I experience. I do weight lifting and when I am done bulking (storing fat while getting much muscle as possible), I go on a keto diet, and it's amazing how fast I lose weight and how good I feel, but once I hit a certain level of weight loss, the body won't burn more fat into ketones, it's trying to spend as little fat as possible, and this is where I personally get brain fogs and start to feel horrible, at this point MCT oil is a huge help to combat brain fog but I don't think a low carb/low fat keto diet is good once you a low in body fat, you need to start add in good healthy fats once you're on your ideal weight .
Runners high is probably mostly just ketosis. Excellent discussion, thank you.
22:17 Dom is referring to CPT1 which is arguably not an error. It is commonly found only in coastal arctic communities so it isn't studied well. It is related to SIDS, but folks who have one or even both alleles do not die from ketosis beyond the age of like 6. Why is he claiming that people with this extremely rare genetic mutation can die from keto? Especially considering the traditional diet in coastal arctic communities. I've read one study that recommended children with CPT1 should basically avoid ketosis, but there doesn't seem to be a consenses and telling adults to avoid their traditional diet is bad advice.
Would a woman doing a 1:1 keto diet, also eat 200 grams of fat, 150 grams of protein and 50 grams of carbs?
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High fiber, caloric and time restriction, low protein. Hmm.
I know when I'm in Ketosis because my eyes open wider (nice bug eyed feeling) and my energy levels are so undepletable, that energy levels at 4pm are the same as my energy at 9am. I have never knocked myself out of Ketosis with dark, low glycemic greens. But I also prefer to eat them uncooked. Keto since my research initially ended in 2018, listening to Dom, He sold me the car.
The fiber and butyrate point - Guess where you get butyrate on carnivore (a type of ketogenic diet): β-hydroxybutyrate.
Butter 😄
And, butter gets it's name from it's high butyrate content as well
@@anthonychaffeemd Exactly 😁 Good to see you, Dr. Chaffee!
@@Aura-us7jl thank you Aura!
@@anthonychaffeemd ty for discussing as I wanted to subscribe but didn't want to leave the video. You've been recommended!😂❤
What does everyone prefer out of exogenous ketones Vs ketogenic diet?
exogenous ketones dont change the poor diet you eat them with. Eating a clean ketogenic diet most definitely and limit processed foods.
This room look slike Heaven was decorated in a American Southwest style.
I prefer to think of it as having the aesthetic of the "loading room" from the Matrix.
@@FoundMyFitness cool either way.
"So, what do you need?" "Science. Lots of Science".
OK I checked PhD. It is risky to extrapolate rodent studies to humans. Particularly if you don't know the genetics and details.
Hi is tap water safe.. if no what is the Best filter
the genetics of a rodent is rodent genes.
these 2 understand more about studies than most. the ratios of fat protein carbs are much different and some studies try to use that to go against ketogenic diets- that I do know. I've seen many in plant based community using animal studies and not declaring it. transparency is important.
Did Dom sort of skip over the cancer part? Rhonda asks about certain cancer cells USING ketones as fuel (which does certainly happen).
Seems to me like Dom just skips over that and goes Into the benefits of keto & cancer instead.
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As someone with a history of brain surgery, stroke, epilepsy and a genetic condition that creates brain lesions, this diet sounds very helpful. However, I feel like I would need way more brain power to get/stay on it than I currently have. 😅
Is there a video foran older man combining keto with weight training, looking to gain 5 lbs of muscle....?
My Hemaglobin A1c has gone down to 5.4 on a low fat diet. That is limiting fat to about 30-40 grams per day, or 10-15% calories from fat. Protein about 15% and the rest is complex carbohydrates like whole grains, berries, vegetables, fruit. Previously my Hb A1c was 5.6-5.8.
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Some old guy I knew also has their A1c go down from 9.0 to 5.4 as well when they did a meat based keto diet with me as well. you vegans really need to step up your propgandpa efforts...
@@sleepinglaffey3886 I wasn't saying that a keto diet could not have similar results in lowering A1c. I was highlighting that it is not carbohydrates that is the problem. It is refined industrialized carbohydrates that are dangerous for people. And it seems that a diet rich in refined carbohydrates and high in fat that is really bad. No where did I attack the keto diet. But it seems your comment was rather negative towards vegans. Also, I don't consider myself a vegan, which is a very moral stance, but rather whole food plant based.
@@lancegillette5550 There are also the Black Swans of the Kitavans (refined carbs), Tukisentans. the Tsimane (refined carbs), the Tokelauans and the French Paradox (More refined carbs combined with high fat) in itself. You vegan cultists and more than likely you as a closeted one cannot explain these along with the carnivore cult. do you? My old friend would have ended up sarcopenic obese if they did WFPB like you but surprise, they're still lifting and going with me (Yes, we did a bulletproof FMD. and we still do it to this day) and we still listen to Longo's and Sinclair's work because THEY produce results.
@@sleepinglaffey3886He isn't propagating a vegan diet. He's villifying processed and refined foods, advocating real whole foods. And also not the combination of high fat, high carb. Both together is detrimental to health. One or the other can be healthy.
How in the world do you afford all these biomarker tests and everything they are so expensive and where do you get them on a regular basis
Excellent video format using the subtext under titles is great for someone like me with little education in nutrition.
Excellent conversation - thank you. Will look into Levels and Keto Brick…
Thanks for all this actionable data and for separating the signal from the "keto" noise out there. I'm going to put it to use!
How to do the keto diet optimally.
Get some duct tape and tape keys to your toes. You're welcome!
LOVE LOVE LOVE DR RHONDA!
This was a very thorough discussion. A lot of information to digest, well worth multiple listens.
1 one of the few guests that can keep u w RP
He's awesome!! ❤
Great advice. Would help to have better microphones.
Does the ketosis cause metabolic acidosis which lead to pancreatic insufficiency long term ?
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I tried Keto, lost weight felt good but my triglycerides, LDL, and other heart bio markers went sky high. Have FTO homozygous polymorphs and others polymorphisms that are not favorable for sat fat. I will stick w/Dr. Valter Longo and Satchin Panda-Mediterranean diet and IF with some EF fasts thrown in. The blue zone cultures do not practice Keto and are mostly plant based with small amounts of meat. The longest lived Americans are seventh day Adventist w/Loma Linda study and they are plant based, no alcohol or smoking.
I'm so glad you brought all of these points up. I totally agree with you that that the longest lived ppl in the world are not on Keto and in mice experiments on 90% fats (which is a very restrictive diet) only very slightly increased lifespan. The one benefit it does have is better memory conservation, some benefits in physiological healthspan but nothing really significant vs some other different healthy diets eg Mediterranean/flexitarian (which is what I do).
For autophagy and effective ketosis, I do longer TRF (22:2 or 21:3) + I do slightly longer fasts eg 48 hrs around 2-3 times a month. I have never done 3 days+ because you start breaking down muscle (even if you do muscle building exercise and increase growth hormone).
To greatly lower glucose , LDL, TG, insulin after meals I take berberine with quercetin, ginger, vit B complex, vit D, chromium, fenugreek, fish oil - really helps to get you faster into ketosis and these are all safe and natural in smaller doses. The other thing is 1-2 tbsp of apple cidar vinegar diluted in 1 glass of water each morning/ with meals>> gets your sugars down and kickstarts fat burning. You should however eat more veggies with potassium if you use any apple cidar vinegar to prevent potassium loss. The best part is that I still can have carbs and protein and healthy fats and have great health, lose weight (I'm a very slim gal), even eat things like pie, higher carb veggies etc (which is almost impossible on keto) and still look a lot younger than my age and have 0 health issues.
Anyway everyone has a different regimen but the above has been a game changer for me.
Sandra, this shows we are different, best
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@@homesignup I 100% agree. I don't have to do keto diet to be in ketosis. IF does that. Running while fasting does it even faster. I have not seen any evidence of actual long term keto people that lived long, if anything most famous keto advocates have died rather young. Another reason I decided to stop keto and do a lowish carb Mediterranean. Planning on doing CKD couple times a year
Hi Sandra, a month after starting keto my heart bio markers also shot up when tested, but I just reduced the MCT oil in my diet, but otherwise stayed low carb moderate fat and after 6 months my heart bio markers were back into the healthy range, so your body, at least in my case, did adjust. Once your metabolism is fat adapted, there are many benefits, particularly for long distance running.
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Beef heart and liver is rich in selenium
No mention of negative effects from defense chemicals from plants,leafy greens. Got to mention both the positives and the negatives.
My thoughts exactly
But have you experienced those negatives yourself? The phytochemicals you talk about is found to create hormetic stress and induce a state of hormesis. This is not bad, it is a good thing. Furthermore a diverse and healthy gut microbiome is essential. Eat your veggies!
@@Nicolailund15 I respectfully disagree, plants don’t want to be eaten as such produce toxins. Some people will have gi issues .
@@islandboy9580 I agree with some people have issues. But if you isolate the phytochemicals and start with eleminating one group at a time e.g. nightshade veggies which contains lectin. You may find what you specifically can't tolerate. Then you can still get good benefit from hormesis and the nutrients vegetables gives you.
It is the same with allergies. Same approach. But don't fear it if you have no side effects eating plants and greens.
@@Nicolailund15 how do you know plants arent only essential to people. eating carbs or poor diets? is butyrate from the gut better than making human synthesized betahydroxy butyrate and getting butyrate that way? does a wider array of biome bugs equally beneficial when not eating sugar based diet? I need to see data side by side in high and low insulin states, carnivore vs plant based, all dirty vs clean.
00:00 Dat unfortunately shaped cactus, tho! 😭
This was of great value, especially with all the superimposed notes about explanations of terms and study references.
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Keto cured my ED 😃
Intermittent intermittent fasting
I like it
Yep, been OMAD 16/8 IF Ketosis since 12/21. Everything they are seeing I am experiencing first hand. Really good stuff
If a ketogenic diet is so good, why did the Inuits develop a mutation that kept them from going into ketosis despite a diet that consisted entirely of meat and fat? This means that those who did not develop this mutation died off. Complex carbs are the keystone of all the longest lived populations on earth. While temporary ketosis via fasting is beneficial from time to time because of apoptosis, continual ketosis is nonsense.
Complex carbs are definitely not a keystone. Do you really think our ancestors had access to complex carbs? You're thinking way too short term. Corn, grains, roots, tubers, have only been in use for the last 5 to 10 thousand years. Our ancestors have been eating meat for around for 2 million years. Then cooked meat probably started out brain evolution. They likely ate meat, green plants, and fruit. And fruit is only edible in the spring and early summer. To me, if they were lucky, they were in ketosis for most of the year except spring when fruits and berries were available. Then they eat as much fruit as possible. That gets insulin, the fat storage hormone, working full time. Their bodies store the fat. Then when fruit goes out of season, they enter ketosis again while only eating plants and meat. To me the problem with the modern diet is there is no balance between insulin and glucagon. Is definitely insulin heavy because people are eating a constant supply of carbs that they don't not need because they aren't getting exercise, where insulin has to keep removing sugar from your blood and almost no glucagon that has to supply sugar to you blood.
Where in ketosis, you are still eating carbs, up to 50g a day, plenty for most. So when you get those carbs, your body has a very slight increase in insulin to remove the glucose from blood. Then when you don't have carbs for a while, glucagon comes out and has to supply your blood with glucose to prevent low blood sugar, just like insulin prevents high blood sugar. It's a constant seesaw balance unlike the modern diets.
Interesting thought, what is your sources? If you eat only meat and fat gluconeogenesis occurs. So why would it be a problem to be in ketosis for inuits?
Lol inuits are like the model for keto. Where'd you hear that they can't go into keto? Before agriculture, carbs were extremely limited and seasonal. We thrive on carnivore/keto diets.
Complex carbs are not in any shape or form the keystone in better health . Actually recent studies show average population is dying a couple years earlier than previous years. Living a life of medications and health problems is not living . Carbs high insulin is the cause of the majority of health problems today. Our body produces its own carbs we do not need to add it in our
@@staypawsative9119 Quote the sources of the references you allude to so vaguely.
Complex carbs do not cause insulin spikes, how could you not know this?
The longest lived populations on earth are all carb based. Longest is vegetarian Seventh Day Adventists, second traditional Okinawan diet. Even the past experts on ketogenic diets now have stepped it back to include more carbs and just avoid insulin spikes. What you are spouting is nonsense.
And of course you totally ignored the matter of the Inuit mutation that prevents them from going into ketosis despite a diet of protein and fat. Because those who went into continual ketosis died off. While it is good to go into ketosis for the purpose of apoptosis from time to time, avoiding complex carbs is utter nonsense.
In fact I don't have time to educate a keto fanboy. Look at this and learn something before you spout uneducated mimes ruclips.net/video/MyOACAdvAsE/видео.html
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I don't like fish, avocados, olives, vegetables, lean meat, egg whites, or low fat dairy.
But I have the ApoE4 allele, so I have to eat the foods I do not like and restrict the foods I enjoy to prevent heart disease and Alzheimer's.
What happened to him? Looks like he lost a lot of weight
I agree he has lost a lot of weight. Potentially he is tinkering around for longevity markers by reducing body mass? Only he could tell us if he chose to reduce mass for specific reasons.
yeah, hope he is well.
@@Nephilimator well visually it's not working and he should adjust accordingly
@@andypagakis It seems hard to believe if he felt it was harming his health or not improving his health he would re-adjust calories, workout, etc. to maintain or increase body mass. Everything he does is a self experiment N of 1 he does on himself toward optimal health which you hear throughout this entire video. I'm guessing he felt being 'jacked / muscular' and having excess muscle mass was not really benefiting him from a biomarker or longevity standpoint so he decided to reduce overall body mass. Again all just a guess but I'm trying to give him credit based on all previous videos I have seen of him always tinkering with his own diet / exercise to improve his biomarkers.
@@Nephilimator no worries, Ive liked this dude ever since I saw him on JRE, I didn't want to knock him, more so concerned
It should be called "Insulin Suppression Diet" not "Keto". This would clear up many confusions.
According to Zoe Harcombe we do not need fiber at all
Where would people with ApoE4 have historically eaten olive oil, avocados, and salmon if they did not live in the Mediterranean region, Mexico, or areas with salmon?
Get Dr Paul saladino on the podcast
Gotta love people like this.
In the beginning of this he is using ratios, 1 to 1, 4 to 1, etc. What is he referring to. What are the elements of the ratios?
Oops.
Sorry, I actually watched as opposed to just listening. Thanks
Hey doc, I appreciate your work and interviews. ( Tip: Practice your mic etiquette. I only say this because I want to hear Everything you say… 😅 )
Interview was slow a first, but later you got him talking enjoyed it. Learned much.
Great video. Really appreciate the critical information presented graphically. Fantastic learning aid.
Edgar Cayce talked about this 100 years ago but much easier to understand.
Excellent talk. Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge with us.
Should we take Omega 3 while fasting?
No that breaks your fast!
@@taitumkeeper20Technically no:Fats are not going to engage the MTOR protein sensor nor the insulin-IGF 1 carbs sensor.
40:00 exogenous Ketones types and effects and duration
Please discuss insulin to glucagon ratio and types of nutrients that may affect ratio
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1:05:20 Eating raw egg white will deplete vitamin D (or so I am told)
Hey Rhonda,
Thank you for the podcast 😊🙏
Can you please tell me what is the minimum dose for ketone salts and ketone ester?
Huge amount of interesting information in this video. This is the third time of watching.
Humans have flat square teeth just like all the plant-eating vegetarian species. We have grown the 2 front sharper canine teeth over thousands of years to adapt to eating meat. I prefer getting my protein and fats from plant sources only.
Explain the Mongolian, Maasai and French paradox then? The vegan-on-carnivore drama is fun to watch as a meat based keto sprinter...
Hope there will be a test on the effect of young coconut meat in the diet
What supplement powders are they drinking? Start keto?
I have been taking ketone ester for a week and I was like a zombie. I used to drink ketone salt and Bulletproof coffee in the morning without considering but I understood why it was good. Thank you so much Rhonda and Dom.
Thank you both
Wow, what a combination, it's a pleasure!
You forgot Patrick Arnold Dom
1:15:00
Awesome!! Thanks!!!
The term "well-designed ketogenic diet" is utterly absurd. Ketogenesis is the body's process for surviving in times of food scarcity. It's literally a survival mechanism and the human body was clearly not meant to remain in a state of ketogenesis for sustained periods of time. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you.
Even if you want to make the argument that a ketogenic diet is inappropriate for a person to consume long-term under any formulation (Dom seems robustly healthy, by the way), saying that it cannot be well-designed seems pretty silly: it's clearly therapeutically beneficial for someone with epilepsy, for example.
From the standpoint of doing a ketogenic diet for epilepsy, wouldn't you agree that it could be well-designed for *that*? What about preventing mitigating incidental micronutrient deficiencies? One of the key things that Dom gets across in this interview is balancing the diet in spite of its restrictions.
@@FoundMyFitness I would absolutely make the case that a ketogenic diet is inappropriate for a person to consume long-term. I agree that I should have worded my response differently to not be so all-encompassing. Yes, the ketogenic diet can be beneficial in the specific application of dealing with epilepsy. However, that does not mean that the person is any healthier than they otherwise would be, only that the symptoms of their epilepsy have been relieved. The vast majority of people watching this video do not have epilepsy and that only accounts for 1.2% of the population.
I think that this discussion would greatly benefit from providing a sweeping picture of the human, human ancestors, and chimpanzee and bonobo digestive systems and dietary history to give the viewer a more complete picture of what their body was designed to consume.
@@paredown.an you explain why some Asian guy I'm with and we're skinny as hell after doing keto rich in SFA and low in unsaturates for nearly over a year now? Explain why that guy I'm with can exercise again. is no longer diabetic and can enjoy life despite restrictions? Explain why we easily did several Fasting mimicking cycles this year using bulletproof coffee and tea?
Baita hydroxy buterate
Loved this conversation, FMD is ketogenic then. Keto mojo should gain $ millions !
Nice video
Great work and information friend.