Wing Foil Interview: Ken Winner on the Blue Planet Show
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2022
- Ken Winner, wing foil designer extraordinaire talks about his background as a pro windsurfer and how he became a designer at Duotone and developed the first inflatable handheld wing for foiling. At first there was little interest in his invention but once a few people tried it, the sport of wing foiling really took off. Don't miss the last part of the interview where Ken screen shares his latest wing designs and goes into details you won't find elsewhere.
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Partial transcript of the interview:
Aloha friends. It's Robert Stehlik. Thank you for tuning into another episode of the Blue Planet Show, where I interview foil athletes, designers, and thought leaders. You can watch this show right here on RUclips or listen to it on your favorite podcast app. Today's interview is with Ken Winter, the designer at Duotone wing designer extraordinaire.
And as always, I ask questions, not just about equipment and technique, but also try to find out more about his background, what inspires him and how he got into water sports. So Ken was really open in this interview, shared a lot of information about wing design, even showed his computer screen where he designs wings.
So that's at the very end of the interview. So you don't want to miss that part. It's really cool if you're into Wing design and wanna know more about the materials and the construction, the design and Ken's philosophy. This is a really good show for all that kind of information. During this interview, I'm gonna play a little bit of footage of Alan Cadiz Wing foiling in Kailua.
I got some drone footage of him, which was after this interview, but he's using the 2023 Duotone unit Wing 4.5 meter wing. I'll play some of that in the background. Thank you so much for your time, Ken, and for sharing all the detailed information. So without further ado, here is Ken Winner.
Okay. Good morning, Ken. How are you doing today? Good morning. I'm pretty good. All right. It's a little bit of a rainy and windy day here on Oahu. How's the weather on Maui? Same. Same. Yeah. Yep. So have you had super stormy winds the last few days? It's been crazy windy here. Yeah, it's been gusting 45 at times.
Do you actually go out in those kind of conditions or do you wait? Yeah. Windy days. Yeah. It's pretty fun. Yeah. So you've been doing what you, what do you do on days like that? You go on a down window or you just go go off? I only do down windows with my wife nowadays. That's her favorite thing.
Otherwise I from a friend's house over on Stable Road and Peter actually lives on Stable Road and so we launched there, go out race around a bit, test different wings, hydrofoils. Nice. What kind of equipment were you on in, on those super windy days? Anything from a two to a four.
Sometimes we go out pretty overpowered just cause we have something we wanna try and we don't have many choices. Some days we just have to go and do what we can with what we have. We do a lot of prototyping in the four and five meter size. We do a fair amount in the three meter size and then smaller and bigger.
We also prototype and test quite a bit, but maybe not as intensely. Nice. Okay. But before we get more into all the equipment and stuff like that, I wanted to get talk a little bit about your background. So tell us a little bit about start in the beginning, like wh how, where you grew up and how you got into water sports and all that kind of stuff.
I really appreciate everyone that's still watching or listening to the very end. You're the ones I'm making the show for the hardcore foyers that can't get enough information and today's interview with all that information on the wings, I think was really special. I think it's just gonna drive the sport forward.
For me personally I'm super interested in this kind of stuff and I know other people are as well, so this show gives me the opportunity to speak to people like Ken and find out more about what they're up to, which I think there's a lot of people out there that are just as interested in that as I am.
So thank you for sticking around and. We'll see you next year. Happy holidays and happy New Year. I'll see you in 2023 with more Blue Planet shows. All right. Thanks for watching. Aloha, and see you on the water. 
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For someone new to the sport the technical info on wings was great. It really brought home the intricacies of wing design. Great to see Ken. I remember him from back in the day windsurfing. I need to watch this again as there is so much info. I am glad I came across this interview. Thank you blueplanetsurf and Ken Winner.
I’m glad to hear you enjoyed it and found it educational, check out the other episodes as well, lots of good information 🤙🏼
Great insightful interview (...listened to the end 😀). Great questions and dialogue. Fascinating.
Thanks for sticking around for the whole thing, glad you liked it 🤙🏼
This exactly the video I needed. I started winging with my dad (a lifelong windsurfer) last summer with your videos on a like with sub 10kt tops. After dad passed a couple months ago, I have been winging trying to carry on and stay connected through this experience.
I've been on a SUP and recently trying to get up on foil. Still working at in and your message about thinking it's impossible, but trying anyway - struck a particular chord for me. I've tried every board and in every condition and it's getting me through this really hard time. I so appreciate you guys and for what it's worth, yes 💯 I believe this is the future.
Wow, that is inspiring, thank you for sharing. It’s amazing what you can learn if you are persistent enough. Don’t forget to have fun too and your dad will be smiling 🤙🏼
Another great interview. These long form podcasts are great because they allow people time to get comfortable. Great work....thanks.
Yes, I agree, it takes a while to get comfortable, it hard for me to stop asking questions at some point. 🤙🏼
Not boring!!!! & the first interview EVER to really link the history from 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s with appropriate mention of all the influential iconic names along the way from someone who was there - what a great interview - I'm thankful & honored just to have seen it.
Thanks for the feedback, I agree 100% 🤙🏼
Wow what a great interview, the stories of old is not boring!!!! Thanks Robert, great interview!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The more that I understand the design compromises within which the designers work, the more I respect them. Ken Winner, what a legend. Well done, Robert, I really enjoyed this!
Thank you🤙🏼
One can count on anything with Ken's name on it. It's always been that way. Thanks for the time and effort from both of you. And Season's Greetings too.
Thank you, Aloha!
Its so great to watch an industry develop in such a short time frame ,a waterman myself in pretty much the same vintage’57 as Ken, with waveski and sup surfing hobie cat sailing disciplines and others,I’m currently healing old knee problems and over the years have been watching kite boarding equipment stuff now winging for my next hobby. Exciting stuff Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it 🤙🏼
Mahalo for your persistence in getting Ken to finally do this! He was very generous with his time and technical expertise. Absolutely love learning about the design details. Big fan of the new Slicks.
You are welcome, Ken definitely played a key role in our sport 🤙🏼
A great interview with master wing designer Ken Winner. So much great information about how wings work and how designers are striving to improve them. Great explanation of the tradeoffs in design between performance and ergonomics. Thanks Robert!
Thank you for the comment and you are welcome! 🤙🏼
Great interview! Thanks for being persistent to get Ken on. What a legend!
Thanks, it was worth the wait 🤙🏼
Thank you so much Robert and Ken for such a great educational video.Amazing progress for such a young sport
Yes, things are progressing at a fast pace, glad you enjoyed it 😎👍
You would never get that kind of tech detailed …I was looking at other brands. Awesome.🎉 the slicks are the goto on overpowered conditions. the units for waves. And now I’m understanding so much more from this incredible interview. Cheers from the Philippines
Cheers, glad you liked it 🤙🏼
Great interview, good questions and lecture by Ken, very nice way to get know what Ken the legend is about!
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I have jumped on here specifically to thank you for the video content that you have created this year and to wish you and your family a merry Christmas. I look forward to your videos each month so even if it is free riding (which I love) please keep it up. I have just watched the latest blue planet episode with Ken Winner (great christmas present). Of course the insights from Ken are gold. The footage of Alan is fantastic for me. Of course I love his fluid riding however one aspect that I really enjoy is the drone perspective that you have shot. I like seeing the surroundings and the bigger picture. Hawaii is quite the hike from where I wing but somehow that footage takes me there.
We are off to new Caledonia for 2 weeks from the 26th. 7 years ago we experienced the most consistent wind there in December. 15 to 20 knots every day for 9 days. I hope to experience the same this time propelled by a wing rather than a kite.
Best wishes to you-Good winds!
Thank you for the wonderful comment. I’m proud to play a small role in promoting the sport I’m passionate about. Merry Christmas to you and enjoy New Caledonia. I have not been there yet but it’s on the list 🎄🌊💨🤙🏼
Thanks you both Robert and Ken for a very informative episode!! Shout out to Allan Cadiz too for the awesome inspiring footage in the latter part of the interview.
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Great interview ,what a great inventor I still have flapper
What’s a flapper 🤔
A flapper is a windsurfer with a rubber flap on the back, it started the wide board revolution. Avs. Anti ventilation skirt by Roberts sailboards. Invented by Ken
All the issues regarding wing design, I was curious about were answered. The drone videos were a nice way to exhibit the performance of those wings as well.
Thanks for the comments, I’m stoked you enjoyed it! 🤙🏼
Really great interviews of ken and the others and with this long format you can go in depth.
I suggest nils rosenbad for a next one or rapf salles
And some younger ones as the average age is quite high or even very high.🤙🙂
Thank you for the comments and suggestions, yes I need to get some more of the young guns on the show! 🤙🏼
I love my Dungtone.
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Very interesting to hear ken speaking about the old windsurf days.seems he prefers not to give too much details!
I think he’s just being humble 🤙🏼
@@blueplanetsurf i think it s difficult for him to remenber and speak of this period .As it is for most of the old windsurfers.this period was very special . Nostalgia is though .iknow i m just 3 years less older.
Is there a release date for the new 2023 slick?
I’m not sure, I’ll ask Duotone
I appreciate that 👏🏼👊🏼🤙🏼
Duotone execs must be a little uncomfortable with Ken sharing all the trade secrets. It’s great how much he’s contributed to the sport.
Much of the information he shared is posted on the Duotone website. What I found interesting is the things he tried that did not work, his design philosophy, and dedication to testing.
You have no shops in the USA what's up with that. I wss soo amped to buy one these but when I saw there are no vendors here no thanks
If you are referring to Blue Planet boards, we do have some dealers on the mainland. We also have two retail shops here in Hawaii (which is part of the USA) and offer free air cargo shipping to all major US airports. 🤙🏼
Inspiring🤓🙌🏼🪶
Thank you! 👍
This is awesome! However i have seen some more innovative approach by brands like Vantage with a more scientific driven approach.
I love Ken though! ❤
Your comment makes me wonder if you are sponsored or work for Vantage? I agree that a science driven approach works well to come up with new concepts but the real test is always if it works on the water. I think testing and making incremental improvements is the best way to come up with improved designs.🤙🏼
Not interested
The beauty of RUclips is that you can watch what you are interested in, which is not this one for you I guess.