The Atheist Experience 875 with Matt Dillahunty and Aron Ra
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- The Atheist Experience 875 for July 20, 2014 with Matt Dillahunty and Aron Ra.
Matt and Aron take callers.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
00:54 - Intro & Announcements - Matt Dillahunty
02:23- Evan (atheist): debating whether God exists, keeping your temper when debating apologists
10:25- Kylie (atheist): debating with people who disregard evidence
22:22- Kevin (atheist): the Bible shows Jesus was a false prophet, theists refusing to consider evidence
34:27- Michael (atheist): presenting a positive example of atheism to relatives
41:44- Esta Ann (atheist): why spend time debating creationists when atheists could reach out to moderate theists
51:39- Justin: asks for evidence why believing as many true things and as few false things as possible results in living a better life
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Aron and Matt look like tag team pro wrestlers.
Oh man. Thats true. So funny.
The Undertaker and Stone Cold ;)
Except they wrestle with their minds.
Aron "Hairy" Ra and Matt "The Hairless" Dillahunty.
Lmao!
I love you guys I used to literally watch this show in secret afraid that I was committing a sin. Now I’m not afraid to be who I am.
+HellBringer now as a person who is bilingual, I understand that imperfect syntax does not suggest imperfect thought. I would not dare to judge you
+HellBringer - fuck that, Michelle is giving you far too much credit. As a trans person, you can go to the hell I don't believe in.
Just a quick note: Leftism is *directly* in opposition to nazism and it's ideologies. So equating the two just shows how utterly moronic you actually are.
"When you are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression." Go back to your bottle kiddo - the adults are talking.
@@zachc349I just want to commend you for being true to yourself! My thing is when did wanting equal rights for men women and people off ALL genders become radical? Why is it that if you want people of all races to be treated fairly then you hate your own race? You know my white husband and I watched blazing saddles the other day and you know what shocked us the most about this movie? Any kid watching it today would say that it's extremely racists.....towards white people. Wtf is going on when feminism is equated with racism and Nazi's for God's sake!?
@@zachc349 one of the biggest faults that I have with Christianity is its views on sexuality. I tried so hard to be a Christian but when my pastor told me that LGBT people were living in sin, I began to wonder why the person who was tasked with showing me the "ultimate truth" was such a self righteous idiot.
Me also
God should share the hair a bit more fairly.
Man that got me good! :,D
@@Cyan37
Good
One might say, "One is blessed and the other cursed."
Lololololololol
tedgrant2 you obviously haven’t seen Aron and Matt naked 😂
Love how Aron looks like classical villain.
Yes, but he does not eat little children anymore....
Snidely Whiplash.
Not to me. Classical villains wear khakis and blue shirts and go to church.
he is starring as a villain in a future movie
Looks like he’s the club leader of the 1%ers
When you've defeated all of the atheists and have to face the final boss duo
@Bethnal Green Not if he had to do it with logical arguments over the phone.
You: "wow a shit ton of potions..."
Them in the distance: "There is no god here....."
O_o
These 2 are far from the best Atheists, the top Christian Apologists would run circles around them, I would say Graham Oppy is the zenith
@@rubenmartinez5602 oh really...? Then why haven't we seen them run those circles?
@@rubenmartinez5602 It's true that they are far from the best atheists. But still even the top christian apologists are no match for them.
Around 20 minutes into the show, Matt takes a call from an atheist woman married to a theist husband. She's worried that his church will tell their daughter (who has a disability) that she's "not right with god" if one of their ritual holy healings doesn't bring noticeable, positive results for her. Blame the victim; what a shitty way to run a church that purportedly worships Jesus.
But Matt had absolutely beautiful advice for her; the best I've ever heard - especially for a 'sacred' institution like religion has become in this country.
Matt, you ROCK!!!
That’s Kylie @ 10:25
I am an atheist among 5 Christian children, and By being open about my Atheism I am showing my many Nephews and nieces another way.
Hopefully along with with no ghosts, psychics, magic, or other wu.
@@MrBryant240sx I wish I knew magic tricks. :) I don't believe in that other crap either. I have no fear of ghosts.
Have fun standing in front of God
Can you elaborate on how you are open about your atheism? Do you wait for the children to come to you or do you interject/inject logic when you overhear them repeating a fallacy? I need some tips
@@joker18524 have you got evidence? Wow 1st person ever with evidence, ok go for it, we're waiting?......tic tok tic tok, no? Ok thought so.
If "FEELING GOOD" was the measure of correct beliefs, then getting DRUNK would be the best way of getting there.
Maybe that's why wine was included as part of the sacramental ritual.
how do you even get drunk from some wine though
@@AverageAlien drink a lot of it
No Christian claims that, the feelings we have are real so God must be real too because otherwise we wouldn't have such experiences.
@@wakeupthisisntreal8168
hmmm...
To my knowledge, no Christian has ever produced hard evidence, REAL evidence to back any of their claims.
Which means ALL THEY HAVE are feelings. Feelings that Jesus loves them. Feelings that they have been born again. Feelings that that they have been saved.
Seems to me all they have to go on are feelings.
If feelings were actually worth anything relative to truth, there would be only ONE Christian religion rather than 10,000!
But...I could be wrong.
@@daveyjones9930
That's a fair point, I have considered that people of other religions have their own personal experiences. I personally believe that all religions are meeting God in different ways and that everyone goes to heaven as long as you are a relatively good person.
Just for fun, whenever I stay in a hotel room, I find the Gideon Bible, I go to Genesis 1, and I cross out “In the beginning” and write “Once upon a time.”
Respect to Aron Ra, you and Matt are dynamic together, next to Hitch, you are my favorite atheistic/antitheistic advocates. I listen intently.
Who is Aron RA? The atheist type or the Egyptian GOD type?
It's not actually a reference to the Egyptian god of the sun. It's a play on words regarding the composite god Amun Re/Amon Ra, the deity from which Yahweh is plagiarized.
@@chimpanzeethat3802 so copied 🤔
Thanks for you're comment .
I just came across Arou Ra and I think he is one of the greatest atheist I have ever seen!
My mother told me, "I believe because I believe, and I want to believe, and that's all I'm going to say about it."
Fair enough, and no argument possible that I could think of. None needed. I understood her and realized she was beyond reason but had a right to her opinion.
Do people REALLY have a RIGHT to their "opinion"? Do you REALLY get to CHOOSE what is true? We see examples everywhere where people CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE scientific findings that have mountains of evidence supporting their truth. Evolution is TRUE whether you CHOOSE to believe to believe it or not. If you CHOOSE to believe that climate change is a hoax, your "opinion" can potentially harm ME and all those who KNOW BETTER. How is that okay?
Philip Fountain: Depends on what country you're in...in the USA we have a right to think what we want and tell others if they are willing to listen, but, NO, we don't have a right to our own private "facts" about scientific realities. I agree, evolution is TRUE, and other scientific findings are also at least heavily likely to be true and it doesn't seem right that people get to vote with their opinions and not with reality...but so far that's the way it's set up.
Fake it til you make it is a disturbingly common attitude to have.
Reason to Rule All: it is indeed disturbingly common...even admired. I never could fake it...and I didn't make it.
But as Popeye sez: " I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam..." and that's okay with me. Easier that way.
@@philipfountain8074 I don't believe climate change is a hoax I am just not convinced that 1. it is all man caused, and 2. that we can do anything about it. The problem starts when people like you, who have the opinion that it is real and man caused, want to use Billions of public money to try and curtail the changes. When you can't make every other country in the world do the same without force.
Aron Ra for president.
I wonder...
It would not take much to have a better president then the one you have now.
I am sure the world would be a better place with him as president.
Please, Aron. Do it for humanity.
PLEASE!!!!!!
@@Peter_Scheen my 19yr old kid would be better
@@nathanmckenzie904 Better then Aron or the Narcissist you have now?
If Aron asked that hippy lady what Joule the energy was, she'd probably say Sapphire.
Considering what Christians actually listen to, the religion should've been called Paulian instead.
st. peter more than paul.
I've called them "Paulites" for a few years now...when I'm not addressing them profanely.
Yes
If somebody tells me they talk to a God, and God talks back. I would not think that the person is sane, unless they came prove it.
Mat and Aron simply have to be the strongest duo.... a theist nightmare.
Graphics department took an L that day
Wow, amazing sentence, they too an loss, instead of a loss, nah an loss, reminds me of people who say rizz..... Cuz charisma is spelled charizzma right?
From your comment I gather 'because' is spelled 'becuz' as well. This, as you should have now become painfully aware, is how acronyms and short forms work. Do you by any chance drive an SUV - or is it a SUV?
thanks for having Aron on... admire this man very much.
Love you guys...When I left religion,I found my life. After years and years of fear. But one thing I also found out by listening and researching is now I know why I hated going into a church..I just felt something was really wrong there..It was full of lies. Keep up the good work..Love Sweden
Two of my favorite humans.
Thank you Matt and Aron. I really enjoy listening to both of you.
First time seeing Aron and I think he is one of the best Atheist I have ever seen !!
So if someone lives a life of love and kindness and does only wonderful unselfish things but they don't believe in God... then they go to hell when they die. BUT, if Hitler had accepted Jesus as his savior before he died... then he would have gone to heaven! Great system there. This single concept should be enough of an argument for atheism.
Thiest will argue that YOU send yourself to Hell even though nobody knows where it is so god HAS to actually send your soul there.
I feel like this is more for the family of horrible people not to feel bad. Nobody really says or thinks anyone besides a handful of people like Hitler would be there.
Heaven is a place of perfection. Only perfection can be there. That's what makes it "Heavenly". Tho, "good people" are not perfect. Good people still have plenty of negative qualities that they would infect Heaven with, if they were somehow permitted entrance. So, "all people" require saviorship from that of a perfect nature. Jesus is mankind's intermediary between God and man. That is to say that Jesus picks up our tab of imperfection, and fills that gap with His perfection. He takes upon Himself our personal ego (our "sin nature"); and, He responds to it all with perfect unconditional love and dignity. Thus, He bridges the gap between our imperfect nature and Gods perfect nature. We thus, can stand in the presence of God without evaporating. And, we then will no longer experience death bcuz death is a symptom of imperfection, which is caused by the imperfect response to the human ego (sin nature).
I personally believe that all people will be saved by Jesus. I don't believe that anyone will ever go to Hell and have no way out, whereas, Jesus would be incapable or unwilling to save them. Imo, theres zero chance of that. At least, in regards to an eternal Hellfire.
Worse than that, it's an antitheist argument (even if the christian God exists, he sucks)
@@1StepForwardToday How do you know heaven exists if you, or anyone you have ever met, have never been there? It's a fable, heaven and hell, created by people in order to control the weak-minded and easily led. Also the existence of Jesus is an assumption based on the later following his influence amassed. Other than the New Testament, there is no concrete evidence of his existence. (Unlike Mohammed of the Muslim religion whom we have actual proof of his existence.) But one statement you made is correct. That no-one will go to hell. Just take it one step further and accept that no-one will go to heaven either.
Love you guys immensely. Your efforts are extremely needed for so many reasons, and one of the strongest ones is just for the unproportional rise in just these "militant" Theists and other flavours of Theism that believe sincerely that Theists should be combatted in any form possible.
I do encourage and thank the whole crew behind to keep up your excellent work!
Regarding the 'prophecy' of the destruction of Tyre - maybe they had a spare Tyre?
😂
It’s like seeing Lennon and McCartney together!
But with much better music, and without annoying faces
Was Lennon resurrected? 🙏🚬
@@shanen8031 NO, he used frequent flyer miles.
Or Pertwee and Baker.
One of the most arrogant statements is to assert that you know someone else's mind better than they do. Tells a lot more about Sye than I think he intended....
53:55 Matt is on it. Testable evidence provided, guy can't even process it.
Trying to talk logic and reason to an unreasonable person is like pissing in the wind. The end result will be the same.
Really ? Wet and yellow??? 🤔
Dude when he mentioned the Chi and the guy goes "OMG I HATE THAT SHIT, sorry for swearing." it lold
I’ve watched a ton of atheist experience videos, but I’ve never seen an episode with so many atheist callers. I enjoy when theists call in to make their arguments, but it was refreshing to hear nice rational coherent conversations instead of babbling theists who can’t even understand their own fallacious reasoning. This was a fantastic episode!
sing it from the alps and back
When you say you don' t believe, immediately you have an epistemology contrary to believers, so they will never accept your points of view.
Believers epistemology is based on the human mind which is projected. God is a super human mind without a brain who has always existed who thought/willed material into existence from nothing. They believe this without having ever encountered a mind without a brain or a mind that can will/think material into existence. The problem with basing knowledge on the mind itself is that imagining something doesn't make it real.
“Do you get gray because of debates, Matt?”
Matt: “...”
11:57 the hosts become ghosts.
God is struggling to take them into the spiritual world but they're just too skeptical
Lucifer's work! 😂
I agree with Michael 40:00. As an out lesbian and atheist, my family is much more concerned about my atheism. What a double whammy!
The first caller probably wont see this, but frustration and anger can spawn from a lack of understanding and/or an inability to convey a point or idea accurately.
If you find yourself getting angry or frustrated at something, you can try gaining a greater understanding of the subject and then attempt to explain it in its simplest possible form. There's something relieving that comes from mastering something. No matter how small.
There's also the idea that the only person one can control is one's self. Keeping this in mind throughout your interactions can help you realise what you can/can't control, let go off any pent up frustrations that are out of your control and help you check yourself when you're becoming authoritative.
If god Co-authored the bible then why are the accounts of what happened different?....Thanks Aron.
Check out Lee Strobel he can explain that beautifully
@@joshsimpson8143 can you explain it to me or provide a source for the mind bending explanations?
I watch these two constantly. Aron, IMO, is one of the most intelligent thinkers I have ever viewed, and Matt just devours and destroys the sick thinking of theist belief system.
Fun Fact, Matt had a large beautiful mane of hair that he lost for debating stupid people in the past xD
(kinda like Homer everytime Marge gets pregnant)
The first caller, Evan, was hilarious
“You still there?”
The "Jesus of Sibira" that Aron talked about - also known as "Messiah of the Taiga" - is Sergej Torop. He is currently (2020/21) being charged with running an illegal religious organisation, possible physical harm to others, and extortion. He was arrested in 09/2020.
55:00
Saying people drinking battery acid is a hypothetical situation that wouldn't happen hits very different after living through covid-19. Knowing that people drank/injected bleach to beat covid just proves Matt's point so perfectly!
No one did that, you're a fucking moron.
@@iraesch4637 well the ancient agyptians took in quicksilver for eternal life. Well that was a shortcut to whatever life awaited them after this one......
Guest, Host, 1st caller, ever-changing background, foreground, side to side, weird studio noises, advice, repartee... All just 🤘🧡
"Oh god, I hate that shit."
*blood pressure spikes*
Jesus may not pass USA airport security check
He'd be shipped straight to Guantanamo Bay.
A couple of WWE champs take on poorly-posited arguments over the phone. Nice.
Just brilliant, an oasis of sanity in a crazy world.
Thank god he made me an atheist and didn't grow up in the south.
Oh, some debate advice. Really great advice on keeping cool.
Was I the only one waiting for Aron to break in to some hardcore death metal growls?
I feel like Aron should be holding a bass guitar at all times...
Nah, he looks like the owner of a major recording studio ...
That last caller...I completely understand Matt's and Aron's limited capacity for dealing with nonsense and tomfoolery.
Thank "God" my family is atheist. My heart sinks for anyone suffering.
Yay, two of my favourite atheists
Unrelated but the way Evan is literally shouting in the mic is just so hilarious
Dude, I have yet to start this episode but feel really bad for any callers who decided to call in that day. It would be like developmental WWE Superstars heading to the ring for their first big tag match and then hearing the Road Warriors music start up.
We Need More Of These Two!!!!!
Original sin doesn't make sense because God is all knowing, he would of known that Adam and Eve was going to sin.
People only believe in this all loving Jesus that they have in there head. Without actually reading the bible.
21:15 this was so beautiful it made me cry
@11:55 Aaron and Matt transcended to a higher level of consciousness.
‘How to think, not what to think” …. Perfect
As a Christian, while I certainly gravely disagree with many of their assertions, I can somehow respect them a bit more after watching this.
Hearing Justin from Memphis... makes me realize how ignorant people in my hometown are smh
It amazes me how people can be all warm & fuzzy about the bible when it holds your life hostage. "I love you, but if you don't love me, I'm pulling the trigger...hey that sounds just like a jealous lover with a gun to your head.
Christians have a sick sense of love. They think any act they would consider immoral is automatically moralnif their god does it. Really sick.
It could be worst he could say if you don't love him he will force you to live with him for eternity.
You have it al wrong. Please read the scriptures for yourself there is a lot of cults that claim to be Christian and they twist the Bible and don’t live by what Jesus says. God is love and took your punishment for all your sins He made a way for you to have eternal life. We are to love even our enemies and forgive anyone that offends us. We are to be selfless and moral. To care for the orphans and widows. Jesus commands we don’t lie and steal, commit adulterous, Bible teaches not to get in debt and to work hard and to have integrity. Jesus offers mercy and grace to anyone. If you want to know the truth humble yourself and pray and ask Him to help you know what is really true and He will. With love
@@joshsimpson8143what part of "if you don't believe in me you'll go to hell" is wrong
You don't seem to get that this is pure evil
Oh my, Matt and Aron sure took the last caller, Justin into the woodshed with a sound whuppin. And why the HELL would someone try and defend a position that Justin tried to defend? To justify believing in something like God--just for the sake of belief, whether it is true or not?
Ha ha ha ha LOL ...... Pray the gay out of you ..... I laughed for a half an hour . I love these shows Aron and Mat are the shit ! Please do more together .
I frequently watch TAE one after the other. Lately I’ve been getting ads between the episodes for Christian movies. Odd.
Probably Bots. Either that or it's an actual person trying to slip in thier little bullshit.
Lisa Spikes oh yea the one w Sean Astin lol
Janusz Reguła lol yes! I keep seeing a trailer for a Christian movie w him in it
Same.
My guess is there are thousands of theists watching in secret
the last call was the definition of gangsta, love it.
Lead the way fellas. We need to free the world so we can advance faster in society.
I couldn't hear that first caller, maybe he should turn his volume up a bit?
Proof of ghosts. 11:55
Definition of unicorn - a xian who can answer a question
Too bad those dont exist. Lol
The dream team.
I watch you guys from Slovenia. Your range is bigger then you probably think.
Legends
This has to be the best crossover experience ever
What your talking about is human nature, when your listening to something which is not proven, and then asserted to be fact, you will get angry.
Believing that you can fly versus knowing that you cannot. If you know the truth, you are much less likely to jump from a tall building. There ya go Matt, a great example of knowing the truth leading to a better, and longer, life.
I had a list for my last Pasteur. Because I had my daughter baptized for my parents. This Pasteur told me that without out god he didn't have anything to live for. He is still a part time Pasteur to this day.
so his congregation is pasteurized, that's what you do with flocks, right... pasteurized Pastors roaming a pasture
Keep up the good work lads.
"God" will never "show up" to prove him or herself. Wars have been fought over this entity. People suffering great pain, being sawed in half, their bodies mutilated piece by piece while screaming, meanwhile the entity watches with indifference, "oh look, they are at it again!" While doing nothing, ever, to stop the pain. That's why I don't believe. That's all I needed to become a non-believer. It's sad. Humans don't seem to getting smarter in America. But, they are in other countries. I would like to say that no matter what, America will always be smarter than others in the world, but that's not true. The Genius Visa is the only reason America remains somewhat viable in the world. Plus, our land. We will always be the best as long as we have the best land, which we do. Once will fill it up, we are doomed. Glad I won't be around to see it since I'll be around 200 years old. But, shows like this at least help modern Americans learn about facts. I'm so sad for all the people that died in the past and currently for nonsense bat shit crazy ideas. Sad world. We can do so much better.
Seems like you have resentment towards god instead of being a nom believer
@@franciscocorona1098 If he exists, has a lot to answer for
Matt and Aron the Dynamic duo x
Matt and Aron a duel of incredible intelligence and mindboggling critical thinking skills. Nuff said
That box started working at the perfect moment at the end there.
This needs to happen more often.
love love love this show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who’s watching this in 2021?
"If god know we are having a debate he should come in an settle it"
What always bothered me with "god want's you to believe in him. you must trust the bible" mantra christians give is if god is all knowing and all powerful shouldn't god be able to figure out a compilation of stories and claimed "witness" accounts would not convince many people? and more to the point that an all knowing and all powerful god would know what would convince such people. An all knowing and all powerful god does not need faith to have people believe in him.
If there was such a god, the idea that somebody would have to be convinced at all, by writing or otherwise, doesn't make any sense. He should just be present and show up in reality on occasions to give guidance in science or magic or whatever. Free will sort of makes sense (but not really because he knows the future) so why would he waste the invention of free will in whether or not people believe in him rather than making it for the purpose of letting people decide what kind of advancements or explorations that humanity takes? That's what I would do. If I was God, I'd be curious what my creations would do and how that run the world.
Yep the two extremities one has a lot of hair one has none.... Both have a goatee lol
Feel bad for any poor sap who happened to call in THAT day
For AronRa: Sergey Anatolyevitch Torop, known by his followers as Vissarion, is a Russian mystic and spiritual leader. On 18 August 1990, when he was 29, Vissarion claims that he had a revelation that he was the reincarnation of Christ.
We in scandinavia do not really care that much for jeesus, we have much funnier fairy-tales .............
Wow, another atheist in Akron? I thought I was the only one.
Caller 1: AGGGGHHH my earholes!
These two are taking the baton from Christopher Hitchens.
The technical difficulties were clear evidence that they needed a crew cat
It is hard for me to imagine ‘coming out’ as an atheist. What is described and discussed here is somewhat alien to me as we just don’t have this fundamentalism in Australia, even with now a Hillsong handclapper at the helm (although he will persist in trying to replace secular public school counsellors with gay-hating chaplains and we will persist in telling him no).
Would someone pull the ten-year-old away from the video board? Leave the visuals alone.
I think aron means you have to believe and repent. What that means is any good person who is atheist goes to hell, while any christian who says sorry to god gets a ticket to heaven.
I'm atheist, ex-catholic. Is "laying hands on" a fundamentalist phrase?
The gruesome twosome. Great vid. Inspiring me to activate.