Roland FA08 vs Yamaha MOXF8 Comparison Video No Talking Just Playing

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • Stuart Smythe has a rattle on the new Roland FA08 and Yamaha MOXF8 workstations, comparing main sounds across the board. At the end of the demo are a comparison of some performances from both instruments as well - everything is set at factory settings, no parts were tweaked. Let us know which instrument you prefer!

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  • @NandDigital
    @NandDigital 2 года назад +3

    Both instruments are amazing, mine is X8 Roland, some pianos are better on Roland some others in YAMAHA, but you can buy any of them will not be disappointed.

    • @kaisfp
      @kaisfp 3 месяца назад

      Which one you prefer for a general solo piano cover sound?
      Thank you.

  • @arktinen
    @arktinen 8 лет назад +11

    I definitely choose the FA-08! Yamaha gives very good sounds, but Roland moves a whole lot more!
    Great video! Congratulations and thanks for uploading it!

    • @matthewford0922
      @matthewford0922 3 года назад +3

      No the Fa08 doesn’t have more, you are just obsessed with how it looks. Nothing beats Yamaha

  • @LFOVCF
    @LFOVCF 8 лет назад +3

    You did the best styling of guitar playing I've seen so far. It's not always the perfection of the sound, but the style of playing.

  • @StevensSounds
    @StevensSounds 9 лет назад +23

    Conclusion: Even an objective comparison is subjective to fans.

  • @martinloopchick
    @martinloopchick 5 лет назад +3

    The Pattern mode of the MOXF is a very nice Feature for Live gigs as the heart of a one man electro synth set up.

  • @privatewobbler3996
    @privatewobbler3996 9 лет назад +6

    Great video. Good sound, playing and no waffling. I wish more youtube videos were like this.

  • @heut4384
    @heut4384 8 лет назад +12

    Hey, thank you so much for doing this comparison. I was leaning towards the Roland as some people have claimed that it just sounds better...but from what I'm hearing, the MOXF8 sounds better to me. The piano sounds a lot closer to the real thing. The classical guitar sounds much more like a classical guitar, and the electric guitar sounds much like an electric guitar when playing "Message in a Bottle." Plus, the MOXF8 even sounds better playing bass guitar. To me, the FA08 has better synthesizer tones and better electric guitar lead sound, though. But this isn't enough for me to buy the Roland. Additionally, the piano on the Roland sounds a little thin and sorta lack that natural full bass sound just as you'd hear in a real piano. My vote goes to the Yamaha.

  • @TyreLee
    @TyreLee 7 лет назад +2

    Certainly both of these keyboards compete well with each other. The FA has it on the pianos, and punchy basses, but the guitars are just that much more expressive on the XF. There isn't anything to complain about between these two. I'd buy both too, if I could. Each has special capabilities that would cover the gamut of expressiveness for me. The choice is difficult at best. I'm leaning on that FA for sheer versatility, but ooh, (as I've commented before), Yamaha's arp engines are second to none, and boy do I need a tool like that. When it comes down to menu navigation, WAV/MP3 export, audio input options, effects and ease of use the FA gets that extra star.

  • @rolandgerard6064
    @rolandgerard6064 10 лет назад +8

    the xf has a lot of features that the FA does not have, ton of arpegiators, the pattern mode which works great, more sounds. On the other hand i love my FA, very easy to use, great audio interface, great sounds, i could not choose so ended with both..

  • @jwillis35
    @jwillis35 7 лет назад +23

    I like the sounds of both, but feel the Roland outshines the Yamaha by a pinch. The way I would compare these two is as follows:
    1. Both are workstations
    2. Sounds are good on both. programming and tweaking can help satisfy to personal taste
    3. Any sounds you don't like can be substituted with VST libraries, other modules, iPad, etc.
    4. Roland has bigger, more beautiful and readable screen
    5. Roland has vastly better sequencer
    6. Roland allows you to save individual waves files of each track, or ensemble wav files
    7. Roland has better mastering and effects features
    8. Both have good VST linkup to a CPU
    9. Roland allows downloading of new sounds and has more preset banks
    10. Both have fine keybeds, especially the 88 key versions
    11. Roland's front panel is less cluttered
    To me, workstations must FIRST be compared by functionality. Not sounds. Lots of boards have good sounds, and everyone has their specialty. Serious users of workstations need to compose, arrange, orchestrate, or just sketch-out songs and phrases. Often those projects are taken from the workstation to computer and a larger MIDI-Audio rig. It's about generating ideas and having a sequencer to help pave the way. While Yamaha has nice features and excellent sounds, there is NO WAY I would buy any version of the MOXF over the Roland FA or the Korg Krome. The Roland and Korg have some excellent sounds. No more than the Yamaha, but they absolutely BLOW THE YAMAHA AWAY in functionality. With today's technology, why the heck would I buy a music workstation keyboard that has a tiny screen and lacks modern-day functionality in song creation. Yamaha should pull the sequencer out of the MOXF and just make it a synth, kind of like the MX.
    Also, when it comes to workstation sequencers - in the mid range price category the KORG KROME simply BLOWS away the competition. The Roland FA however comes close and evens the field with some of its other features, like the audio wav exporting features.

    • @jerryKJose
      @jerryKJose 6 лет назад

      //Any sounds you don't like can be substituted with VST libraries, other modules, iPad, etc//
      That's not at all a substitute.. Here the video deals with onboard sound comparison..
      Including VST here doesn't make any sense..

    • @slapmyfunkybass
      @slapmyfunkybass 4 года назад

      “Workstations must be judged on functionality, not sounds”
      Are you kidding? Your first priority is always how good does it sound.

  • @evanunicorn
    @evanunicorn 9 лет назад +8

    In my opinion, one of the reasons all Yamaha keyboards' piano voices sound the same is that Yamaha always samples their own Concert Grand Piano CFIIIS. This particular piano has very distinctive tone characteritcs which are a bit dark and wide. And this is the piano showed in this video. However, there is also a Yamaha S6 6' handmade grand piano sampled in MOXF and Motif XF. It has a tone color that is more familiar to people (more studio like)(S6 is not showed in this demo). ------------Comparatively, Roland has been sampling/modaling pianos from different manufactures including Yamaha, Steinway and more, giving customers a wider chioce.------------It seems that Yamaha has noticed that not all people like the sound of CFIIIS. Their acoustic piano department has developed the next-gen Concert Grand Piano called CFX (It has a much brighter and more classy tone). The CFX sample has been used in their latest digital stage piano CP4. Hopefully coming soon to other new Yamaha synths.

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 9 лет назад

      Thankfully we can load that piano on the MOXF whenever it is out :P
      Honestly I don't like the S6 that much for solo play - the bass notes sound thin and lifeless. It's great for the upper octaves though. I just can't connect with a piano sound that doesn't explode the moment I smash the bottom octave keys.

  • @bcj842
    @bcj842 Год назад +1

    That Roland is pretty sick. The Motif sound library is the absolute sauce though. There's just no getting around it. The sounds just POP.

  • @VeronicaMcCarrison
    @VeronicaMcCarrison 9 лет назад +18

    I like the Roland

  • @chadwicktyrone8894
    @chadwicktyrone8894 2 года назад

    Wow they way y’all effortlessly play those tunes without messing up is amazing to me!!

  • @KOISANX
    @KOISANX 9 лет назад +5

    The heart of any S+S workstation is the sampler. Yamaha allows multiple wav's per tone hence the switching between the bass articulations & noises appeared natural. Roland for many years relied on their unique tone structure to manipulate less samples. This I suppose contributed to tasty synthetic pads/leads etc. However, when Roland starting pushing the so-called SuperNatural engine - a lot of us believed that they have stepped up on the deeper multisampling. I'm not sure ry fat this demo really delves into those aspects though.
    My big gripe with these comparisons , are that they only deal with the single patches when we're really buying a complete workstation. So the question to be answered is - which overall functionality including sounds used in complete composition, is the better ?

  • @ian757
    @ian757 10 лет назад +11

    I'm a fan of both Roland & Yamaha. For me, the main Roland concert grand is the best but for pretty much everything else the MOXF8 has it on sounds particularly the amazing Performances. However, that's only sounds. I suspect the Keynes action of the Roland and general build quality is better than the Yamaha. Plus the Roland has a proper sampler and the velocity pads and D-beam. Plus a much better screen. They're both awesome machines though!

  • @bakolakoz
    @bakolakoz 10 лет назад +2

    Both are great.FA for the supernatural sounds and ease of use ,moxf for great sounds,especially pianos ,guitars and drum kits and 1gb flash card option.

  • @deauvillevrienden
    @deauvillevrienden 6 лет назад +5

    I went for a budget solution that still gives me the best of different worlds :-))
    - A second hand Yamaha MOX6 (500 euro) EDIT: still have it but added a second hand MOXF8 with flash (900 euro)
    - A second hand Korg Krome 61 (600 euro)
    - A second hand Roland Integra 7 (1000 euro)
    - A second hand Roland FP8 (100 euro because it's own sounds were dead but still sends midi)
    So for 3100 euro I have the Yamaha, Korg and Roland sounds and goodies, controlled by the best 88 keys controller I ever experienced. (FP8 hammers feel like a real Grand)
    In my case the instruments never leave the attic and I have to admit this would not be handy for on the road :-))

  • @MegaPortenio
    @MegaPortenio 8 лет назад +4

    Both sound good, but i just preferred the Roland, maybe because it has the Integra sound!

  • @hitendramahida
    @hitendramahida 10 лет назад +7

    i am impressed. with playing expertise like yours, any board will sound better.

  • @jimi18032
    @jimi18032 10 лет назад +1

    Great demo! Both are great keyboards. Still can't decide which one I prefer. I'm a Roland guy (own 3 of them) but I've always wanted a Yamaha. Decisions, decisions! :-)

  • @SethJ57
    @SethJ57 7 лет назад

    True… The Roland does have a good concert grand sound. However, i'm still missing the soundboard resonance that a real piano has when you press the sustain pedal and play Notes. Yamaha has that down to a T, but Rowland hasn't seemed to catch up on that, and until they do, I will always choose Yamaha over Roland for piano sounds. I own the MOXF8 and I am more than satisfied with it. I specially like the S6 concert grand for playing jazz. As far as usability? I don't understand what people are saying when they say the Yamaha is not user-friendly. The front panel was very easy to figure out, and tweaking your sound can be very easy depending on what you want to do. For instance, if you just want to change the ADSR settings, two clicks of a button and a few twists of the knobs will get you there. The other sounds on the Yamaha are also better, for the most part, then the Roland, At least in my opinion. There are a few exceptions, like that acoustic bass on the Roland and that distorted guitar, and I imagine the Legado mode on the Roland is probably a little bit better for analog synthesizer leads van is on the Yamaha, but other than that, The Yamaha wins hands-down for me.

  • @stevenbucknermusic
    @stevenbucknermusic 10 лет назад +1

    Thanks for providing the comparison. I have been trying to decide between the two keyboards. Both boards sound great. I think the Roland has a slightly more clearer sound; however, I like the feel of the Yamaha which would make for a good controller and performance keyboard. Hard choices..

  • @rafsoc1613
    @rafsoc1613 3 года назад

    They both sound good and they are both great workstation. I traded my MOXF with an FA for the only reason that I can record on the FA and put all the track on a memory card and upload to my DAW. without running cables.

  • @dasstraat
    @dasstraat 9 лет назад +12

    I listened 2x with eyes closed. I listened to the sounds, not the pianist.
    Roland sounds a little better when you play a song, although the MOXF8 has nice sounds. Also, the F8 looks more attractive and has a better quality display.
    What I hear is 2 bad piano's, vibrato is not in any piano but audible in both.
    For now, I keep my G8 because it's the BEST I can get. I also agree that it's probably better than what I hear now.

  • @RichKeYz34
    @RichKeYz34 9 лет назад +3

    Very similar but Roland wins due to better clarity and the little details in the sounds such as guitars, and better studio sets than the yamaha

  • @synthartist69
    @synthartist69 9 лет назад +11

    Yamaha MOXf8. I do own an FA06.

  • @markeaton6081
    @markeaton6081 8 лет назад +2

    Ok Kingdomminded it's hard to say which I prefer that why I purchased both!! Yamaha sounds in my opinion are great for church. The FA08 lets me layer and put in atmospheric textures that help in prayer and talk music. You see it's like having an additional car.. One for work and one for family...

    • @aworshipperscry87
      @aworshipperscry87 8 лет назад

      WoW!! Question. During church when you are using the MOXF8 is it easy for you to layer, and split without taking up a whole lot of time? We have a Roland at the church, so I already understand how the Roland keyboards think. But I really want to get the MOXF8. But I've been hearing that this keyboard is difficult to operate. Is it true?

    • @markeaton6081
      @markeaton6081 8 лет назад

      the MOxf8 with the layer functionality is easiest in my opinion!!!! i used it recently at another church to add Strings during prayer and it was fantastic!!! very good on the fly!!!!!

    • @aworshipperscry87
      @aworshipperscry87 8 лет назад

      Mark Eaton Is it easy to operate?

    • @markeaton6081
      @markeaton6081 8 лет назад

      The MOXF is not hard u have a short learning curve if your unfamiliar with the board but it isn't very hard!!!!!!!

  • @kevinpsalms
    @kevinpsalms 8 лет назад +3

    owned a moxf8 sold it and am getting fa08 moxf has great sounds but yamaha doesn't add new sounds too often mostly the same since the es not to mention adding sounds sucks when u have to pay 300 for a 1gb flash and buy the sound library it also still doesn't have a color screen no sliders can only layer 4 sounds no sampler not saying the fa sampler is to die for but its there plus the moxf doesnt have pads....fa wins in my opinion but depends what u need....moxf sounds great and has a great key feel

    • @justinepaulberina4365
      @justinepaulberina4365 7 лет назад

      kevinpsalms Some trade-offs. The Yamaha can only layer 4 tones, while the Roland can layers up to 16 tones. On the other hand, the Yamaha can have 4 different arpeggios running independently while the Roland can only use ONE arpeggio for all 16 tracks, not to mention limited selection of 128 arpeggios vs 8000+ arpeggios in the Yamaha.

  • @blake_niewoonder
    @blake_niewoonder 3 года назад

    I have an FA08 and I play a MOXF8 on a daily basis. The MOXF is a pain in the ass to navigate, as you have unorganized patches with no reason to their order and there is a tiny screen. The FA08 however has labeled buttons of each type of sound, with sub categories to scroll through as well, and it has a massive color display. They both sound about the same to me, so I would always recommend the FA08 over the MOXF.

  • @ridethespiralz
    @ridethespiralz 6 лет назад +10

    I watched this video a year or two ago and finally made the purchase last week for the FA-08. I love the keyboard action and responsiveness and how quick it is to get the sound you want. The MOXF8 sounds nice but looks like a total bitch to program/edit.

    • @brianxhaust2723
      @brianxhaust2723 4 года назад

      I have had a MOXF for about a year. Some of the sounds are fantastic, like acoustic piano, strings, guitar, brass, even organs. The synths aren't bad but they just dont stand out in the mix with my cover band. The synth sounds on my Korg Triton can drown out my lead guitar player.

  • @JokerMansBeats
    @JokerMansBeats 9 лет назад

    I was on the fence far as which one to buy for the longest time. My biggest factor was i didn't like the feel of the key bed on all the new Motifs, even on the big boys. Felt cheaply made. Both boards sound AWESOME but i ended up purchasing the fa-06. The key bed on my old 88 Korg Triton LE feels killer compared to the key beds on all the new 88 key Motifs. All in all. Its all about your preference & desire for the board. They all sound great in my opinion.

  • @elvinlewis6490
    @elvinlewis6490 9 лет назад +1

    Excellent! I like the Mox. especially because if the piano sounds.

  • @thomjohn98
    @thomjohn98 Год назад

    I was fortunate enough to own both, I loved the FA08 but hated the action, sounds were very good on the FA but I prefer the Yamaha overall, and still own the MOXF8, and use it with the Fantom 08, Yamaha Modx7, Korg Krome EX 88, and a Roland VR09.. Am planning on selling the Korg, the VR09 and the Moxf8 to go a different direction.. Too much gear to setup and usually not enough space for my rig at gigs.. But the MOXF8 trumps the FA in my opinion, far superior sounds and the action is way better...

  • @raymondabella2289
    @raymondabella2289 6 лет назад +1

    Between the two workstations in the same price class , Roland fa 08 and the Yamaha moxf8, I would have to go with the Roland. However, if it came down to arranger keyboards such as the Roland bk9 and the Yamaha PSR s970, I would go with the Yamaha. So if I had it my way, I would have the Roland workstation with the 61 key Yamaha arranger on top. Then I'd have the best of both worlds. And the moral of the story..., both companies Kick-Ass and it's a matter of opinion and taste.

  • @markeaton6081
    @markeaton6081 10 лет назад +29

    i purchased both!!!! they have different personalities!!!!!!!!!

    • @aworshipperscry87
      @aworshipperscry87 8 лет назад

      So which do you like better personally? How are the Grand Pianos, and Electric Pianos on the FA08?

    • @TyreLee
      @TyreLee 7 лет назад +24

      Comes down to what kind of music you want to produce, and in some respects your skill level. Pianos go to the Roland. Arps go to the Yamaha. The latter hasn't changed their menu and navigation systems, which can be really un-intuitive and annoying at times. Too many button presses. The balance is that in the majority of cases you can produce pretty good stuff with the Yamaha despite the annoying and tiny menu screen.
      ORGANS:
      I NEVER liked the Motif line's organs, which just aren't expressive and dynamic enough out of the box. Roland organs bring proper expressiveness to the table without the need for too much tweaking. Creating and editing tones in the Yamaha is time consuming, which is not the case with Roland. Basses are better on the FA as well.
      SYNTHS
      If you do a lot of synth work and need expression get that Yamaha. It's an inspiration source that will NOT disappoint. This is especially true if you are using the arppegiators.
      Expressiveness/touch sensitivity: Yamaha
      STRINGS: Roland.
      BASSES: Roland
      #of tones: Roland
      SAXs: My experience with the Sax has never been so great. I have yet to discover if either the XF or the FA can deliver.
      EPs: Both are good. I like the Yamaha's dynamics and expressiveness, but Roland is not slouch by a longshot.
      Utility: Roland FA's just ahead because of the ability to import and export MP3, record samples, and use its 16 pads for live and on the fly backing, and pattern recording. The D-Beam is a plus and the stick is easier to use than the wheels on the XF...but that's a matter of taste and comfort. Roland also has a Monitor Out for drummer timing etc. Don't think the XF has that. The screen on the FA series is far and away better for navigating than that of the XF. Given tech advances today Yamaha should be ashamed to produce a screen that provides so little info for such a deep keyboard menu. Old man like me needs bifocals to see that scrappy screen these days.
      ARPS: Yamaha. I owned a MO6 once. The arp engine helped me in surprising ways for some of my music and that was very pleasing. Whether it's backing tracks or arppeggiated drums the XF will deliver inspiration almost without fail. The XF is so much better in the arps area because it has about 6000 arps. But not only that, it can layer multiple arps. Neither Korg nor Roland compete with that in the price range of the XF.
      PERFORMANCE:
      But for performance, ease of use and just massively more punchy R&B the Roland is the one to go for, I think. The feel of the keyboard is better (initially), on the XF6 than the FA06. But one can get used to virtually any keyboard if the device delivers what one is looking for. In the end try them and see for yourself.
      OVER ALL I'd go for the Roland just so I can flow better and with greater ease in some areas than with the Yamaha, which is bulky, if not heavy, (as they are making these budget oriented jammers much lighter these days),
      DESIGN: Yamaha needs to improve its keyboard design language...the XF is not much different in frame than previous MO line keyboards. My wife plays piano, but I'd be hard pressed to introduce her to the buttonesque XF. The intimidation factor is too high for the average workstation beginner. Roland fairs only a little better, but hey, their workstations, not pianos. I'm done. Hope this helped.

    • @PudWhacker
      @PudWhacker 7 лет назад

      Tyre Lee tnx best reply!

    • @rafaelmedina183
      @rafaelmedina183 6 лет назад

      best reply! , I LIKE YAMAHA SOUNDS BUT ROLNAD UFFFFFFF

    • @theacan565
      @theacan565 6 лет назад

      UFFFFFF means SUCKS???

  • @halfred76
    @halfred76 4 года назад +3

    Everybody is different! I had a Motif xs for a few years and loved it, i made some amazing creative stuffs and took a real pleasure to play it every day. Later I bought a FA08 and sold it after one week, I hate the sound, the ridiculous sequencer, no intuitive approach for me, the sampler, lol. I hate the Supernatural acoustic sounds! Progressive yes but no life! Sorry, It's just "my" point of view. Sorry for my basic english!

    • @testowykana1763
      @testowykana1763 4 года назад +1

      I agree. I own super old Yamaha MO6 and Roland FA-06 and I prefer MO6. On paper FA-06 specs sound spectacular, but when I started to work with it, my initial excitement changed to a huge disappointment. I was literally in state of shock, how badly certain features were implemented. For example the "sampler" is a complete joke. It shouldn't be called like this. The pads are not velocity sensitive. They're just regular buttons. It's not even possible to export the pad track to .wav file with the rest of the song! There are so many things wrong with it that I could list, I could go on and on and on. When it comes to the user interface/user experience I feel like on FA-06 I have to do twice as many button presses to achieve the same goal as on the Yamaha. When it comes to the sounds, Roland sounds are just not exciting. Drums suck (at least when it comes to hip-hop/r&b). There might be 2000 patches in the FA-06, but the synth sounds sound so similar to each other on FA-06, that it feels like in reality there are 1/4 of the sounds.

  • @CID0830
    @CID0830 2 года назад

    For me this Roland fa is the best sound piano I never hear , your play so good.

  • @Drdeeski
    @Drdeeski 9 лет назад +3

    I went with the Yamaha moxf8 it can load more sounds via flash that means better pianos and synth sounds plus the keybed feels great

    • @KennyBucketz
      @KennyBucketz 7 лет назад

      What do you mean "load more sounds via flash"? Does that mean you can download or buy sounds from somewhere else and use them?

    • @KennyBucketz
      @KennyBucketz 7 лет назад

      Tech Hybrid thanks for your help! Do you have to buy these?

    • @remyvegamedia
      @remyvegamedia 7 лет назад

      Yo if that is truly the case, I might have just leaned even more heavily towards the Yamaha. I've been leaning there even compared to the Krome. I miss that about my Nord Lead 4, the ability to upload new sounds. To be able to do that on the MOXF8 would be dope. I just wish there were sample pads on it haha.

    • @aworshipperscry87
      @aworshipperscry87 7 лет назад +2

      Dwayne Blackwell So can the Roland FA08. I’ve added like 50 plus Grand pianos, and 40 plus Electric Pianos on top of the ones I already have. That 1GB of flash cost 300.00 for the MOXF8. I can go to the Roland axial website and download my sounds for free.

  • @bswell3328
    @bswell3328 8 лет назад

    I have the MOX8 and it can do so much more than just produce great sounds. The drums, pattern modes, element control, master mode etc along with an easy interface made me get it over the Roland. Also it's organ bells chimes dx sounds etc are better than. Go to categories then chromatic percussion and you'll see why

  • @Angelstarscotland
    @Angelstarscotland 9 лет назад +1

    I'm probably going to buy an FA06 in the next few weeks, thanks for this demo it's a big help in my decision, I like the sounds of the Roland better in most cases, although I have to say the sound for "Charlie" is so much better on the motif… surprising

    • @MrCubrilovic
      @MrCubrilovic 2 года назад

      Yes, on this video Roland sounds better then Yamaha.

  • @960Jandira
    @960Jandira 5 лет назад +3

    Ele tendencia para o yamaha claramente. Ambos os teclados tem timbres fantásticos

  • @geoffk777
    @geoffk777 6 лет назад

    They both sounded great, but I'd give the edge to the Yamaha for realism on most of the sounds. Acoustic pianos and guitars on the Roland were very nice, though. The Yamaha is also nicely portable and has some expandability with (expensive) flash boards.

  • @LFOVCF
    @LFOVCF 8 лет назад

    It does help that songs like Small town boy and Charlie have sounds selected that just don't resemble the song. The Charlie 'hoover' sound is a specific patch sound, if it ain't right, it ain't right!

  • @Zombieintheoffice
    @Zombieintheoffice 9 лет назад +2

    In my opinion, and I've played both, they both have their many strengths and weaknesses, but if you have the money, get a Kronos X! XD
    But seriously both are fantastic keyboards, I wish I could have them both in my collection!

    • @Grizathvili
      @Grizathvili 6 лет назад

      Kronos sound so light compare to Roland and Yamaha. Both has a bold and full sound.

  • @tiagozunino
    @tiagozunino 6 лет назад +5

    Tive ambos! Acho hoje a ROLAND superior, por causa da conectividade, facilidade e qualidade dos timbres. Não se enganem! Qualquer teclado da linha MOTIF, fica lindo em gravação em uma DAW ou em fone de ouvido. Quando você joga o timbre mono, em uma caixa, um P.A ou algo do tipo.. o timbre fica com um grave "aveludado", te forçando a fazer uma equalização específica para cada timbre, diretamente em cada P.A que você toca. Isso vem desde o MOX6, até os mais caros.
    A Roland não me desapontou por enquanto... já o meu motif, no primeiro descuido já quebrou a tela rs.
    São ótimos teclados, mas essa comparação ainda acho meio estranha, por se tratarem de propostas diferentes. Se fosse por lado a lado, eu ainda ia de Roland FA06.

  • @joseluisruiz3789
    @joseluisruiz3789 9 лет назад +1

    I think that the sounds I had on my Fantom G8 sound alot better then the FA-08. I do love Roland but the yamaha seems to have the sounds alot better made. I did get my chance to test both out at my local Guitar Center and liked the keys on the FA-08 because it felt like my G8. I sold my G8 for X reason but I might just re buy another G8 but in the best conditions I can find it because they are no longer being made. Over all i have to give to Yamaha for the sounds but the Roland is made with better feeling materials.

  • @alltheabove9960
    @alltheabove9960 4 года назад +1

    The Roland piano sounded a lil brighter then the Yamaha but with the settings on the Yamaha it sounded more real in depth with the polyphonic ambience my opinion

  • @HawkeyeFortune
    @HawkeyeFortune 9 лет назад +17

    I love yamaha products, but the yamaha seems to be organised like a cheap keyboard from 1985. Where as the roland layout seems to have excellent layout and useability.

  • @qwertyuiopasdgjklzxcvbnm
    @qwertyuiopasdgjklzxcvbnm Год назад +1

    I'm going to buy both together

  • @curefm2
    @curefm2 8 лет назад +14

    MOXF8 is the best for me

  • @yeahuri4724
    @yeahuri4724 9 лет назад +95

    Am i the only one who think Roland is better in this video?

    • @phranquepeasant5688
      @phranquepeasant5688 9 лет назад +11

      You're not alone. I like this Roland a lot more to be honest. Especially the bass and piano sounds. So I have no idea why some people say that the piano is better on the MOXF. The Roland sounds much more open. But it might also be that the audio quality in the FA-08 video is better. I don't think this is a fair video. So in reality the MOXF could be the best choice. I can't say for sure.

    • @gmangoyan
      @gmangoyan 9 лет назад +6

      Phranque Peasant I love the Roland, I've owned a lot of Rolands but I dare say the piano on the Yamaha is more realistic. I can easily identify Roland piano sounds from a mile away.

    • @kate503
      @kate503 9 лет назад +2

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    • @paulzavadski3695
      @paulzavadski3695 7 лет назад +4

      roland seems to have more high freq. )

    • @Namfooodle
      @Namfooodle 6 лет назад +1

      I think the Roland sounds more "synth-y", since it's sound engine has also virtual analogue and modeling, MOXF8 is only sample based. I also prefer the Roland's sounds.

  • @fumfoo001
    @fumfoo001 8 лет назад +6

    Give me one of each, Please! I think on average, the Yamaha sounds a bit warmer, and the Roland a bit edgier.

  • @gerbertgarzona51
    @gerbertgarzona51 4 года назад

    Roland the best for me...!! Since 80's when I saw the great musicians like Foreigner, Nazareth, Wham, Michael Jackson, Allan Parsons, etc, using Roland in the differents models, Still 2019 Roland have a great Sint.

  • @viktorvasin2681
    @viktorvasin2681 7 лет назад +6

    MOXF8 - GOOD!!!!

  • @korgkorgevich9024
    @korgkorgevich9024 9 лет назад

    great demonstration and great sound of both instruments. i like yamaha more than roland, but in yhis case - fa08 and fa06 has also very powerfull and "live" sound, like yamaha.

  • @kashakeys88
    @kashakeys88 7 лет назад +1

    I can see the Yamaha volume had to be turned all the way up, like in a live setting. Whereas the Roland probably did not need to be turned up on the volume since it naturally has the right amount of punch.

  • @FuZhixiang
    @FuZhixiang 9 лет назад

    I have a motif XS 7 since 2008. Now I need a roland. FA-06, that's my next target.

  • @555ontario
    @555ontario 7 лет назад +1

    Cool demo. Both are good keyboards. I still find Roland sometimes has a few weaker sounds in certain categories or puts them on expansion cards. I have more Roland gear than any other manufacturer and they tend to have my favorite individual sounds.The MOXF8 gives you solid sounds in all sound categories. No weak organs or strings etc. As well, what song is it that you are playing at 5:12? It's nice.

  • @Deadacheee
    @Deadacheee 10 лет назад

    Wow! What a great video! I love Roland FA-08. And your plaing of Wrecking Ball and then Training Montage (was it more like a Northern Kings version, or is it just my impression?) is fantastic. I really enjoyed that.

  • @mirosg197
    @mirosg197 5 лет назад +1

    I have a Roland Fa-07 and I must admit that Yamaha has much better guitar and sax sounds. I found that......I should buy a MODX. The two of them should be enough......for some time.

  • @LFOVCF
    @LFOVCF 6 лет назад

    I have the 06, it does SO many things fabulously, but some sounds are better on the Yamaha.
    The 06 does synth very well, and pianos, harpsichords etc, but it can be a ball ache to do certain functions that should be SO easy, like changing velocity settings.
    There is no outright winner, because you cannot judge an apple for it's orange taste.

  • @TheCoolProfessor
    @TheCoolProfessor 10 лет назад

    I bought a juno Gi not long ago and it really works great so I'm a Roland fan!

  • @foxybrown2
    @foxybrown2 9 лет назад +5

    Yamaha did what it usually does it sounds good on realistic instruments but the
    synth sounds are not good and Roland sounds great in the Bass department and drums but the piano sound engines sound kinda thin and that's the way they have always been. Not good or Bad that is just each keyboards strong and weak points.

  • @ForceStudios
    @ForceStudios 6 лет назад

    Both are really great machines.
    For one- this sounds better and for the other- the other sounds better... and it`s just like splitting hairs.
    The major thing is the concept between the FA and the MOX... and if the FA is the elegant "Millenium Falcon" then the MOX is the "Death Star" somehow.
    I prefer Yamaha myself (and own a MOX) but I also have some ol` vintage Roland devices in my setup, too... and it works ;-)

  • @SLOVENEC1972
    @SLOVENEC1972 8 лет назад

    They both sound good in their own particular ways! I'd say that the Roland would be way more straightforward to use and those 16 pads are also a big pro feature for the Roland. On the other hand, the Yamaha can also be used as a USB audio interface and features excellent integration with Cubase (if you're using Cubase of course!). I also like that the Yamaha is a shorter instrument with the pitch bend and modulation wheels above the keyboard as opposed to the left hand side. I have a hard case ready and waiting to accept the MOXF8. However, both the Yamaha and the Roland are fine instruments. It would also be great to compare the Korg Krome 88 with these two.....

    • @nehundo
      @nehundo 8 лет назад

      +SLOVENEC1972 I use the FA08 as my USB audio interface all the time. It's got a great mic/instrument/line level input on the back with it's own gain and effects loop (if you configure it).

    • @madness8556
      @madness8556 8 лет назад

      +Anderson Mills thanks for your reply and correcting me regarding the usb audio interface capabilities of the FA! Can you use those pads to trigger audio or midi backing tracks?

    • @nehundo
      @nehundo 8 лет назад

      +Lenti Lenko The pads main purpose are as a "sample pad," and work reasonably well for triggering audio. For better or worse, the pads aren't velocity sensitive. I don't see a way to use them to trigger midi tracks or to use them to play midi keys on a particular channel. The audio will playback in any situation you would expect it to , except that one cannot sample one pad onto another. That's a bit of a bummer, as sampling to a pad is a quick and easy way to record and export a quick idea that you're working on, and every once in a while that would be useful.
      The pads also have other secondary functions, like letting you choose a single part out of a 16 part studio set to play, parts to layer, parts to solo, etc. The reason that they are secondary functions is that there is NO WAY TO SAVE ANY OTHER PAD MODE AS THE DEFAULT STATE. That's a real bummer, because I use the part select all the time, but almost never use the sampler. That means that I almost always have to set the pad mode immediately after startup.
      Overall, though, fantastic machine and I love using it.

  • @sushantramdas1236
    @sushantramdas1236 7 лет назад

    Roland sounds much better.
    but that warm electric guitar sound, 2nd sound in the guitar sections, wow. Yamaha has a totally different feel. such feels.

  • @TheDawgpound4
    @TheDawgpound4 10 лет назад +3

    Played on a FA-06, today at GC. They didn't have the FA-08 on display. The white keys are way short. Even compared to some of the other less expensive boards. That's where they skimped on the quality. Does it cost that much more for regular sized keys?

    • @nep4704
      @nep4704 8 лет назад +1

      Try the FA-08. It's only the FA-06 that has the short keys because it had a synthesiser key bed instead of a piano keybed. Synth keys are usually shorter and they also don't have any weighting to them.

  • @zuluswazi9470
    @zuluswazi9470 9 лет назад

    Wow.i thought Yamaha had buried Roland in the Swazi caves never to rise again but i'm amazed Roland redefined their sound engine-clean and full.but i still prefer the Motfif's EP's.Welcome back Roland my long lost friend.

  • @lonzcityy2189
    @lonzcityy2189 4 года назад

    got that mofx 8 in the mail coming. very excited

    • @yea78861
      @yea78861 4 года назад

      how do you like the moxf8 im thinking of getting one

  • @VeronicaMcCarrison
    @VeronicaMcCarrison 9 лет назад +8

    I don't just like Roland I am a fan of Kurzweil Keyboard I had a Yamaha motif - XS I just love music for music sake

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 9 лет назад

      The piano on FA kinda disappointed me :(

    • @pianoman42421
      @pianoman42421 9 лет назад

      Yash Chauhan same very poor

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 9 лет назад

      Reece Pipes I bought the moxf6 on sale. This thing has the warmest filters I've ever used (I haven't used the Kronos or Motif properly so I'm not counting them).

    • @rishabchaudhary9819
      @rishabchaudhary9819 6 лет назад

      Veronica McCarrison
      I am fan of YAMAHA

    • @Armz316
      @Armz316 6 лет назад

      Do you have a Kurzweil PC3K8? Is that better than Yamaha Montage? Thanks & God bless you!

  • @jerryKJose
    @jerryKJose 6 лет назад

    For tones.. It goes to MOXF and for usability and functions it goes to FA

  • @lensmusic98105
    @lensmusic98105 8 лет назад

    it's the FA all the way for me. it's so damn big and beastly. even the Yamaha sounds a bit thin when you compare them like that.

  • @aworshipperscry87
    @aworshipperscry87 10 лет назад

    I have to admit both of them sound really good. I ended up going with the Roland FA08. I’m very pleased with my choice too. There are so many ways you can manipulate the Waveforms to give it the Sound you’re looking for. This Keyboard is all about making everything sounding exactly the way YOU want it!!! If you are not pleased with the way a particular patch sounds I can tweak it in a matter of seconds to my liking. So the MOXF8 is very good but that Roland FA08 has a slight edge.

  • @tonyblank
    @tonyblank 10 лет назад +1

    I would prefer fa, though both are great.
    Fa seems to be something better than mox in THIS video.
    The first piano on fa sounds far superior than the moxf pianos.

    • @djfirestormx
      @djfirestormx 10 лет назад +2

      Ok so here is the breakdown on Roland vs Yamaha on their piano's. I personally love the sound of Roland, however as a person who performs live, Yamaha tends to do better on a PA system because the richness of the Roland tends to get lost in large woofers. Yamaha is more "bright" and projects better. That being said, Roland destroys in a studio environment when it comes to Piano. One thing that is not show in the video (because the OP was not getting into customizing) was that with THIS particular keyboard you can tweak the sound on the fly so much that it virtually makes the live benefits of the Yamaha disappear because you can make the FA regain the "brightness" for live settings. Yamaha needs to go back to the drawing board and make a nicer looking keyboard too...this looks like my late 90's/early 00's S03 which is basically a first generation digital cheese stick lol.

  • @syzerx6789
    @syzerx6789 8 лет назад +1

    Having used both, I think they're both great boards but the Roland has the edge on Yamaha.

  • @MorelkesStudio
    @MorelkesStudio 10 лет назад +1

    Very nice sounds and well played, i like it.
    Greetings Maurice

  • @kobraMM
    @kobraMM 8 лет назад

    hello congratulations for the interpretation you are a great musician but I would love to play like you nn are so good, personally I was very impressed most in the roland, especially with regard to the sound of the mind-blowing guitar, thank you for your performance greetings and congratulations again also for the video.

  • @ARMawendra
    @ARMawendra 10 лет назад

    Very nice & useful video. Thanks. Want to hear more comparison sounds like this. Is there a way to download the original wave files of above recordings (instead of hearing via youtube)?

  • @erikgarcia5016
    @erikgarcia5016 3 года назад

    Moxf8 is better in own both of them and I interviewed them and the producers of Roland had to agree that the moxf8 is better because it has way more sounds and sounds much more cleaner

  • @rolandgerard6064
    @rolandgerard6064 10 лет назад +1

    Both great value for the price

    • @johnsmits2494
      @johnsmits2494 4 года назад

      Roland Gerard well perhaps it is intended, but some of the presets( maybe not presets ??) the effects are not used all that tastefully. But this is typical, extremes of the parameters show the full blast mode of the effects/settings. But Boss/Roland are known for the super hi-fi effect scenario. To each his own, I prefer the effects of the Korg Krome models, although not reviewed here.

  • @samalves3650
    @samalves3650 10 лет назад +3

    Não tem comparação!
    Roland FA06 Tem timbres muito superiores em relação ao MOX06.
    Talvez o MOXF06 Se aproxime, mas n chega ao pés do FA 06

  • @bldn10
    @bldn10 Год назад

    I'm looking at the 61 key versions but I think the guts are the same for both. I'm just going to sit at home and work up covers of songs I like and maybe post of my fb page. I will "record" instrument by instrument in real time. No computer editing, etc. So how do the sequencers compare? I read that the FA sequencer is very basic. I have a circa 1989 Ensoniq VFXsd and the sequencer is very powerful and intuitive. But it's dying.

  • @ahojahojish
    @ahojahojish 2 года назад

    Giving you a like just for that rocky theme bit alone! :D Gave mi chills. 10:03

  • @stefanrockener6799
    @stefanrockener6799 6 лет назад

    Sehr interessanter Test! Vielen Dank!

  • @lemonslice2233
    @lemonslice2233 8 лет назад

    You make Wrecking Ball sound so classy...

  • @Tartopom7
    @Tartopom7 8 лет назад

    Nice Bass sounds on FA-06.. I need one!

  • @filmscorelife4225
    @filmscorelife4225 2 года назад

    There's actually ways to edit each string instrument to make it sound more real. I have a moxf8 and have 3 songs on my new channel that shows what this keyboard is capable of. Check it out!

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac 10 лет назад +1

    Great Test! Love the sound of both instruments. Message in a bottle still gives me the creeps after all those years! :) Do you have a list of the songs you used in this demo? Some sounded so familar but I could not get my brain remembering the band names. thx!

    • @achamilton
      @achamilton  10 лет назад +5

      Thanks for the comment! Erm, I played stuff that sounded a bit like the following ;-) : Piano - Pure Imagination (song from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory), a pretty version of Wrecking Ball (Miley Cyrus), Bass - Tubular Bells (Mike Oldfield), Cosmic Girl (Jamiroquai), and a bit of generic jazz walking bass, Synth Lead - Sweet Dreams (Eurythmics), Charly (Prodigy), Guitar - Sweet Child O' Mine (Guns n Roses), Message in a Bottle (The Police), Combi Voices - Lizard (Mauro Picotto), a bit from our old fave the Rocky IV Theme, something that sounded a bit like Royals (Lorde), Dakota (Stereophonics) and I think that's everything!

    • @303machine
      @303machine 7 лет назад +1

      +A&C Hamilton Musical Instruments
      2:24 sounded like Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy

  • @olibaowl
    @olibaowl 10 лет назад

    Very good comparison test! what model of keyboard stand use in Yamaha? Thanks.

  • @benjaminrodriguez637
    @benjaminrodriguez637 10 лет назад

    Great job my friend ...love the videos. .

  • @newplanman9836
    @newplanman9836 4 года назад

    Very nice board. Thx 4 the review. Sounds like a Korg M1.

  • @layanenunnes
    @layanenunnes 2 года назад

    Na época que foi postado esse vídeo eu iria de Roland com certeza , mas hoje que estou mais atualizada ,sem dúvidas nenhuma seria de Yamaha . Alem de poder editar muito melhor os sons ele ainda conta com a memória Flash o que o FA não tem e que faz muita diferença em poder trazer sons de fora.

    • @jonathandossantossilva2683
      @jonathandossantossilva2683 Год назад

      Eu iria nesse roland fácil pois é uma máquina fantástica e o segredo do FA está naqueles pads e esses pianos num PA são ótimos!!!

  • @djdricanpro
    @djdricanpro 3 года назад

    Roland FA/08 THE Beast!!

  • @cluelesssimmer5856
    @cluelesssimmer5856 3 года назад

    I own a roland but i love some of the yamaha sounds. Why not both?

  • @MrAzflyman
    @MrAzflyman 9 лет назад

    When you can run your guitar (or an other instrument really) through all of the effects of the Roland and directly into your DAW then I might ditch my MOFX which I can do that with. Nice thing is I don't have to as I also have an Intergra-7. You need to experience all the Yamaha can do, its a better live performance and composing machine. I also doubt that the Roland has the abilities to load as many different libraries as the Yamaha. I am not a fanboy, I own Yamaha, Roland, Novation, and Teenage Engineering as well as more than a few (hundred) VST's.

  • @ThiagoSecundo
    @ThiagoSecundo 10 лет назад +2

    Music that was played in 10:25?

  • @MrEyardibi
    @MrEyardibi 9 лет назад

    Roland piano and bass cannot be compared to Yamaha Motif's any model. Roland is the winner obviously in respect to piano and bass sounds due to huge memory in Roland (loopless uncompressed sound and string resonance feature of piano in Roland that cause more realistic piano sound)

  • @salvogodano2902
    @salvogodano2902 5 лет назад +1

    Yamaha Ovviamente! Forever!!

  • @MexlycanFilmico
    @MexlycanFilmico 6 лет назад +3

    Yamaha is good, but at least in this video Roland got the cake.