In my mind, I thought this remake would be like a normal video. But I forgot that filming on a Beta server is a challenge. Visual glitches and things which are not ready in general made my work complicated (e.g.: I am sure you won't notice much, but the boats don't have people in them. The Lifts have visual glitches, very annoying when you notice). Also, this would have been a two-hour movie, because the area is just huge. I've tried to show as many zones as possible, without rushing things too much. If you want to see more, it looks like you have to play it yourself or wait for some gameplays :) Do you like this video? Give it a like, listen to more (playlist links below), subscribe. Do you want to further support my work? Details in the video description. Related: Wrath of the Lich King playlist: tiny.cc/ca60xy All World of Warcraft music & ambience playlist: tiny.cc/zti5wy Livestream with Music & Ambience: ruclips.net/user/Meisiolive With love, Meisio
I think you did a great job ^^ Anyone who knows his way around gaming in beta versions ect, has probably encountert the same problems. Can't imagine anyone harping on you for that :) Keep the good stuff comin! :)
I got the explorer title but never got loremaster. I clearly remember seeing a player named Dora "The Explorer in Stormwind and thinking I need that title lol.
For those interested, the main instrument used in most of these Howling Fjord tunes is called nyckelharpa. A nyckelharpa is a traditional Swedish keyed fiddle. It usually has three or sometimes four rows of keys that are used as frets which changes the pitch of the string. It has four playable strings and twelve resonance strings which works as reverb. What makes this instrument so interesting is the possibility to play multiple voicings at the same time, which makes one instrument sound like multiple musicians. I started playing this wonderful instrument because of the music from this zone, and I still love it to this day. I hope more people will find an interest in the nyckelharpa to widen it´s reputation. /Gustaf
I come back to this whenver I'm ever really stressed or if i'm unable to consolidate my thoughts. This is coming from someone who hasn't played properly for years. It takes me back to that moment of entering northrend for the very first time in 2008. Never has a game provided such an intense sense of adventure and immersion
I remember when WOTLK launched and I picked this zone first, the music started playing (since i always turn the music on for the new expansions) and I stopped moving and just sat there for a solid 10-15 minutes just listening to the music. It was so drastically different from TBC.
They do make some really good tracks but unfortunately the sound team in general is kinda bad. For example, the music in Boralus changes like every 50 steps you take so you end up hearing 30 seconds of a song before it changes. When the music changes so frequently its hard to make a connection between a zone and a song for nostalgia's sake.
@@Tekk23 that has nothing to do with the composers, that might be someone in another team determining when tracks should load. The compositions themselves are amazing, back then & still today. The Zereth Mortis music, for example, is phenomenal.
I think Wrath is my favorite expansion. The whole experience was amazing. And as far as story lines, being a WC3 player prior to WoW coming out, I really like the Arthas story line.
Ah simply stunning. I can never forget the feeling upon entering Howling Fjord for the first time; the sombre yet majestic tunes, the shift in atmosphere, the chills, absolutely surreal. The intro, Utgarde themes, the melancholic woodwinds of Skorn upon the howling winds..just breathtaking 😌 Thank you for another wonderful adventure.
I can't remember 100%, but I think I remember entering Northrend first from the Borean Tundra (via Stormwind, not from Menethil Harbor). I was still awesome regardless. I remember vividly the wipes in Utgarde Keep though :)
33:32 I have been looking for this for years. I used to go stand on the bridge by the keep to hear it. I love violins and reminded me of the song played in Balinda’s, but softer.
The soundtrack that plays in Antorus while fighting Argus has been inspired on it (before the fight, on the platform to be specific), I believe. I too have been looking for this soundtrack everywhere :C
My absolute favorite zone in WotLk and to date in my top ten zones ^^ Remember getting off the boat and the music startin to play ^^ Instantly hooked ^^
@@Meisio Yeah it does. Glenn had a habit of not putting his name on the mp3 files back then, whereas the other composers did, most if not all uncredited tracks in WotLk are by him. Storm Peaks, Taunka, Iron Dwarf, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning music.. all have no composer marked on them in the files, but on the OST they are all credited to Glenn.
Wai u do dis to me, I wana forget as much as possible the wotlk related music and everything actually, so I can somehow enjoy it once again with classic release. Since a complete memory eraser, brain wash, lobotomy thingy is out of the question, only way to do that is to stay away from youtube videos with such content. And now, after watching a Bellular video, bam, Howling Fjord music in my room. Not fair, Now I start googleing again about leaks for wrath classic release date and all. Anyway, your channel is great, youtube knows too well I am loving it.
I started leveling an alt in HF today and quickly realized that I never heard the music in most wotlk zones at launch 😲 This soundtrack is absolutely stunning! I probably wouldn't have appreciated it as much back in 08 as an 18 year old though 😅 When pushing for level 80 I was blasting Blue Stahli and Celldweller.
I will never forget the moment, when i entered a ship sailing to Northrend, in the Stormwind harbor. It was in 2009, but, i still remember this, just like as it was yesterday. Goosebumps on my skin do not allow me to deceive 🥲
Thank you as always for your music compilations Meisio, it brings happiness to my soul that so many people love this game's wonderful and immersive soundtrack. I use them to study and for drawing in my free time.
I play this while playing skyrim. Imo it fits well when I'm just traveling on the road but damn I miss wow. Sadly my PC died on me last year and I'm saving up for a new one.
Ouch, I feel you (hopefully I didn't just jinxed it again and my laptop won't give up on me this year, or the next)... I got my laptop in 2014 after spending 4 years without a PC. By betting a portion ("just" 30€ - in reality I really don't want to give these companies anything over 1€ per year, maximum, but I had to risk it because I had found a kinda cheap one on sale, but great one for WoD) of the money I had saved, on my favorite team scoring and conceding a certain number of goals (total). It won 4-2 iirc, we were famous for such scores back then, Mourinho recently came and changed that (1-0....) and we've lost so many great players anyway. Anyhow. Earned me the last ~150 euros I needed xD Forza Roma!!!
Fun fact: Based on the geological nature of fjords and the fictional history of Azeroth, this region isn't a true fjord. Fjords are formed by glaciers carving the land, which naturally takes tremendous amounts of time. Because of the position of Utgarde Keep at the back of the inlet and the fact that it existed there prior to the Sundering, the Howling "Fjord" would have been a landlocked region originally and Utgarde Keep indicates that no glacier could've carved through the area. Looking at the map of ancient Kalimdor when it was one large supercontinent, there's no indication that the region would've fed out to the sea, so it's most likely that the inlet was simply part of a river that the vrykul had dammed up with Utgarde. Since Azeroth's current map has only existed in that state for ten millennia, the world has no natural fjords and it would take hundreds of thousands of years for any to occur, which would likely occur on the western side of Northrend around Sholazar Basin and the Borean Tundra, as the only significant glacier in the content is Icecrown itself, which naturally doesn't feed into the Howling "Fjord." Needless to say, Blizzard doesn't exactly care for worldbuilding in regards to terrain accuracy. If finding out the region isn't a real fjord boggles the mind, just think about the fact that we've probably only been seeing 1/4th of Azeroth's surface. For the longest time, there's been a debate over whether the map we've seen is the whole of Azeroth's surface, or only half of it, as we don't know what's opposite the Maelstrom, as the ocean west of Kalimdor is the "Veiled Sea" and the ocean east of the Eastern Kingdom's is the "Forbidding Sea," which suggests there's something opposite the Maelstrom to justify the two names. So the Azeroth we've seen thus far may only be on one half of its antemeridian. However, since Pandaria's southernmost region - the Krasarang Wilds - is tropical instead of a tundra or taiga, we can infer that Azeroth's equator is actually south of Pandaria, meaning we've also only seen the northern hemisphere of Azeroth, never the south. If the equator cut through the Maelstrom as many hypothesize, Pandaria's southern half would be colder than the northern half, as it would be closest to the south pole.
@@dropit7694 Like in real world... black pepper, chili pepper and sichuan pepper for example are all different species Real world lore is messy a lot. Not to mention that due to loss of information when transforming 3D object to 2D like globe to a map the objects get distorted. We could see the whole Azeroth because of that, Pandaria could be like real world Australia. which seem to be close to south pole on maps.
You think you could do dungeons this same way? A lot of dungeons have really good music that isn't just a copy paste from the zone they're located in and a lot of them, especially in wrath, have really good music in them.
TBC music turned off??!? This is madness!!!12 But whatever floats your boat. At least it's not grizzly hills again xD I'm tired of ppl parroting that when there's a multitude of great(er) tracks, as much as I too like it and wotlk in general. p.s. I had spent too much time in this zone (Howling Fjord) and Storm Peaks so I usually prefer Icecrown and Zul'drak nowadays tbh. Or Borean Tundra and Dragonblight (it's a bit awkward at times but I still love its feel), depends. Nothing will ever top the mesmerizing+/soothing Matt Uelmen n Derek Duke stuff tho, for me. I mean, terokkar/shattrath and draenei music, if not everything else....
@@ianfacerollsyou it's good stuff so I can't truly argue it (further :p), plus you'll keep giving Uncle Mei more views ehehe Just let TBC music play too sometimes, I see it crying in a corner for years now, everyone keeps mentioning wotlk 😞
@@ianfacerollsyou do search for (even) more music like this btw, if you haven't already... You never know what you'll stumble upon. I'd mention names but I can't recall, but I remember I found these bands/artists easily. Non video game music but still northern and (supposedly?) viking inspired. Now, I obviously haven't listened to them much but my watch later list has plenty of that kind of stuff. Soon TM...
wish they would have used the updated engine for classic and used the new assets and textures they made for cata to replace the old ones. they could have then redone the assets for tbc and wrath
That bad? I find them decent. I regard WoW Classic (up until WotLK) as Classics. Keeping the original textures and feeling is part of the experience. But I know what you are saying, I notice a big difference even in terms of lighting.
![The Witcher 3 - Winter at Kaer Morhen [Ambience / Music]](/img/1.gif)
In my mind, I thought this remake would be like a normal video. But I forgot that filming on a Beta server is a challenge. Visual glitches and things which are not ready in general made my work complicated (e.g.: I am sure you won't notice much, but the boats don't have people in them. The Lifts have visual glitches, very annoying when you notice). Also, this would have been a two-hour movie, because the area is just huge. I've tried to show as many zones as possible, without rushing things too much. If you want to see more, it looks like you have to play it yourself or wait for some gameplays :)
Do you like this video? Give it a like, listen to more (playlist links below), subscribe. Do you want to further support my work? Details in the video description.
Related:
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With love,
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I love all of your videos.
Great work as always) In such a case it would be great to have not one but two 1-hour videos, don't drop pieces of your work, we need them!
I think you did a great job ^^ Anyone who knows his way around gaming in beta versions ect, has probably encountert the same problems. Can't imagine anyone harping on you for that :)
Keep the good stuff comin! :)
Before my kids were born I got loremaster of northrend and boy I am about to do it again, gentlemen
Haha, I see you have plans for the future :D
Do it bro. Go hard, one more time. For all of us who could never make the achievement...
I got the explorer title but never got loremaster. I clearly remember seeing a player named Dora "The Explorer in Stormwind and thinking I need that title lol.
Probably same my daughter
Ah yes!! Me too 🩷💜 my oldest is 12 now. He's a Cataclysm baby!!
For those interested, the main instrument used in most of these Howling Fjord tunes is called nyckelharpa. A nyckelharpa is a traditional Swedish keyed fiddle. It usually has three or sometimes four rows of keys that are used as frets which changes the pitch of the string. It has four playable strings and twelve resonance strings which works as reverb. What makes this instrument so interesting is the possibility to play multiple voicings at the same time, which makes one instrument sound like multiple musicians.
I started playing this wonderful instrument because of the music from this zone, and I still love it to this day. I hope more people will find an interest in the nyckelharpa to widen it´s reputation.
/Gustaf
At long last someone noticed. It is such a beautiful instrument and hard to master.
It's also the instrument used in Grizzly Hills' main theme :)
@@Persepolis-o2b It sure was. The theme all WoW players remember well ^_^
Thanks for sharing! I've always wanted to know the name of the instrument.
And the beautiful instrument you can hear at 4:40 is known as Uilleann Pipes (pronounced ill-en), a type of bagpipe originating from Ireland.
I come back to this whenver I'm ever really stressed or if i'm unable to consolidate my thoughts. This is coming from someone who hasn't played properly for years. It takes me back to that moment of entering northrend for the very first time in 2008. Never has a game provided such an intense sense of adventure and immersion
I remember when WOTLK launched and I picked this zone first, the music started playing (since i always turn the music on for the new expansions) and I stopped moving and just sat there for a solid 10-15 minutes just listening to the music. It was so drastically different from TBC.
I miss Russel, he gave this world the spirit it so loudly needed.
15:15 My meditation music of 15 years :)
Just in time for WOTLK Classic. Howling Fjord my fave soundtrack in Northrend
dude..Grizzly Hills
WOTLK soundtrack always brings back good memories, times that will be never forgotten.Thank you Meisio.
My whole body had goosebumps when the music started!
This video makes me feel at home, thank you,Meisio.
Howling, Grizzly Hills, and Sholazar is prob my fave wotlk zones
Northrend is so Metal.
good memories
Ugh... the nostalgia is real.
The music team on this game are on another level
were*
@@coza10 still are
They do make some really good tracks but unfortunately the sound team in general is kinda bad. For example, the music in Boralus changes like every 50 steps you take so you end up hearing 30 seconds of a song before it changes. When the music changes so frequently its hard to make a connection between a zone and a song for nostalgia's sake.
@@Tekk23 that has nothing to do with the composers, that might be someone in another team determining when tracks should load. The compositions themselves are amazing, back then & still today. The Zereth Mortis music, for example, is phenomenal.
@@Tekk23 Indeed Aaron, nothing to do with the composers. (Like @metal slime mentioned).
I can't wait to re-live Wrath again :D
I think Wrath is my favorite expansion. The whole experience was amazing. And as far as story lines, being a WC3 player prior to WoW coming out, I really like the Arthas story line.
The music and ambience in this game is perfect. I could listen to this stuff all day everyday.
I like to put these in the background while I'm drawing.
This is incredibly nostalgic
Ah simply stunning. I can never forget the feeling upon entering Howling Fjord for the first time; the sombre yet majestic tunes, the shift in atmosphere, the chills, absolutely surreal. The intro, Utgarde themes, the melancholic woodwinds of Skorn upon the howling winds..just breathtaking 😌 Thank you for another wonderful adventure.
I can't remember 100%, but I think I remember entering Northrend first from the Borean Tundra (via Stormwind, not from Menethil Harbor). I was still awesome regardless.
I remember vividly the wipes in Utgarde Keep though :)
33:32 I have been looking for this for years. I used to go stand on the bridge by the keep to hear it. I love violins and reminded me of the song played in Balinda’s, but softer.
The soundtrack that plays in Antorus while fighting Argus has been inspired on it (before the fight, on the platform to be specific), I believe. I too have been looking for this soundtrack everywhere :C
Vengeance landing will always be the most nostalgic for me
It’s like watching a documentary. I can picture David Attenborough narrating something here hahah. Another great one for the books!
:)
haha
I miss playing wow maybe when I have time I should play this game once again
Peesonnally one of the most beautifull map in WoW
aaa this takes me back.
Northrend and its music was glorious.
Nice job once again!
My absolute favorite zone in WotLk and to date in my top ten zones ^^ Remember getting off the boat and the music startin to play ^^ Instantly hooked ^^
In WotLK years ago this was my first zone...... back then I was a just little more than a new player ......still rings strong nostalgia bell
the greatest of all time returns
:)
The Northrend Transport music is by Glenn Stafford, not Russell Brower. The track was on the "Mosaic" album, and Glenn was credited.
Hmm... It sounds 100% like Russell Brower though.
Thank you again.
@@Meisio Yeah it does. Glenn had a habit of not putting his name on the mp3 files back then, whereas the other composers did, most if not all uncredited tracks in WotLk are by him. Storm Peaks, Taunka, Iron Dwarf, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning music.. all have no composer marked on them in the files, but on the OST they are all credited to Glenn.
@@slinttu1378 Thanks for sharing these details, I have to read more about this.
incredible shots. i had forgotten about those penguins!
Haha :)
Very important NPCs right there :)
Soothing Zone, nice questing alone love it
My childhood 😍😭😭😭
I've saved a lot of your videos to my own playlist titled WoW2, 19 videos of pure ambient sound and music from this beautiful game 🎮 ❤️
A other good vidoe dude keep it up you rock
beautiful work here, you are a great camera man !
Thanks. I think there is a lot of room for improvement :)
Getting exalted with those seal guys, can't remember the name. It gave a rockin fishing pole. i spent alot of time here.
Wai u do dis to me, I wana forget as much as possible the wotlk related music and everything actually, so I can somehow enjoy it once again with classic release. Since a complete memory eraser, brain wash, lobotomy thingy is out of the question, only way to do that is to stay away from youtube videos with such content. And now, after watching a Bellular video, bam, Howling Fjord music in my room. Not fair, Now I start googleing again about leaks for wrath classic release date and all. Anyway, your channel is great, youtube knows too well I am loving it.
26th of September 2022 :)
@@Meisio Yep, now I want prepatch to start leveling DK :)
Zangarmarsh; another great music area. 👌🏻
I started leveling an alt in HF today and quickly realized that I never heard the music in most wotlk zones at launch 😲
This soundtrack is absolutely stunning!
I probably wouldn't have appreciated it as much back in 08 as an 18 year old though 😅 When pushing for level 80 I was blasting Blue Stahli and Celldweller.
My favorite zone in all of Wow
you're bringing some much nostalgia that I've been thinking to come back wow after 2 yrs break... I can spent hours doing anything in Grizzly Hills
Same🤙
One of my favorite zone of my favorite expansion thank you very much for your work 🙏🏼
This fucking song are so good
Favorite zone in the game!
Your videos are pretty freaking amazing. Thank you
We were happy and we didnt know.
I will never forget the moment, when i entered a ship sailing to Northrend, in the Stormwind harbor. It was in 2009, but, i still remember this, just like as it was yesterday. Goosebumps on my skin do not allow me to deceive 🥲
I love wrath of rich king
Even when writing, you have an Asian accent :)
I love that :D
Leveling in WTOLK is going to be beautiful. Can't wait :)
these songs are a banger
One of my favorite zones! Thank you for this!
Beautiful scenery and music, my second favorite zone after Grizzly Hills. Wish we had mountains like this in Finland.
Thank you as always for your music compilations Meisio, it brings happiness to my soul that so many people love this game's wonderful and immersive soundtrack. I use them to study and for drawing in my free time.
aaah down memory lane
Always a treat to see your notifications pop up, thank you for getting us through another day at work! Hope all is well; thank you again!
I am fighting the heat. I am doing decent. I hope you are better though :)
@@Meisio Same (Florida), there is no escape lol just looking forward to the profession revamps in dragonflight
The best zone music in WOTLK imo.
I play this while playing skyrim. Imo it fits well when I'm just traveling on the road but damn I miss wow. Sadly my PC died on me last year and I'm saving up for a new one.
Ouch, I feel you (hopefully I didn't just jinxed it again and my laptop won't give up on me this year, or the next)...
I got my laptop in 2014 after spending 4 years without a PC. By betting a portion ("just" 30€ - in reality I really don't want to give these companies anything over 1€ per year, maximum, but I had to risk it because I had found a kinda cheap one on sale, but great one for WoD) of the money I had saved, on my favorite team scoring and conceding a certain number of goals (total). It won 4-2 iirc, we were famous for such scores back then, Mourinho recently came and changed that (1-0....) and we've lost so many great players anyway.
Anyhow. Earned me the last ~150 euros I needed xD
Forza Roma!!!
Great work!
Yesss!!!
Fun fact: Based on the geological nature of fjords and the fictional history of Azeroth, this region isn't a true fjord.
Fjords are formed by glaciers carving the land, which naturally takes tremendous amounts of time.
Because of the position of Utgarde Keep at the back of the inlet and the fact that it existed there prior to the Sundering, the Howling "Fjord" would have been a landlocked region originally and Utgarde Keep indicates that no glacier could've carved through the area. Looking at the map of ancient Kalimdor when it was one large supercontinent, there's no indication that the region would've fed out to the sea, so it's most likely that the inlet was simply part of a river that the vrykul had dammed up with Utgarde.
Since Azeroth's current map has only existed in that state for ten millennia, the world has no natural fjords and it would take hundreds of thousands of years for any to occur, which would likely occur on the western side of Northrend around Sholazar Basin and the Borean Tundra, as the only significant glacier in the content is Icecrown itself, which naturally doesn't feed into the Howling "Fjord."
Needless to say, Blizzard doesn't exactly care for worldbuilding in regards to terrain accuracy.
If finding out the region isn't a real fjord boggles the mind, just think about the fact that we've probably only been seeing 1/4th of Azeroth's surface.
For the longest time, there's been a debate over whether the map we've seen is the whole of Azeroth's surface, or only half of it, as we don't know what's opposite the Maelstrom, as the ocean west of Kalimdor is the "Veiled Sea" and the ocean east of the Eastern Kingdom's is the "Forbidding Sea," which suggests there's something opposite the Maelstrom to justify the two names. So the Azeroth we've seen thus far may only be on one half of its antemeridian.
However, since Pandaria's southernmost region - the Krasarang Wilds - is tropical instead of a tundra or taiga, we can infer that Azeroth's equator is actually south of Pandaria, meaning we've also only seen the northern hemisphere of Azeroth, never the south. If the equator cut through the Maelstrom as many hypothesize, Pandaria's southern half would be colder than the northern half, as it would be closest to the south pole.
Even real world do not care about terrain accuracy, Dead Sea is actually a lake for example.
It doesn't matter at this point there's many inconsistencies with terminology, like a "Is it a drake or dragon?"
@@dropit7694 Like in real world...
black pepper, chili pepper and sichuan pepper for example are all different species
Real world lore is messy a lot.
Not to mention that due to loss of information when transforming 3D object to 2D like globe to a map the objects get distorted. We could see the whole Azeroth because of that, Pandaria could be like real world Australia. which seem to be close to south pole on maps.
This is sooooo good
You think you could do dungeons this same way? A lot of dungeons have really good music that isn't just a copy paste from the zone they're located in and a lot of them, especially in wrath, have really good music in them.
I just did Icecrown Citadel. I am time limited though. Doing my best :)
Thanks! I love it!
take me back...
Cool 👍
👍
600th like, beautiful music
Soon we will be going home
Beautiful, but my favorite is Grizzly Hills :)
Fight me
I've been leveling in TBC with music turned off and this video on repeat, soooo goood
TBC music turned off??!? This is madness!!!12
But whatever floats your boat. At least it's not grizzly hills again xD I'm tired of ppl parroting that when there's a multitude of great(er) tracks, as much as I too like it and wotlk in general.
p.s. I had spent too much time in this zone (Howling Fjord) and Storm Peaks so I usually prefer Icecrown and Zul'drak nowadays tbh. Or Borean Tundra and Dragonblight (it's a bit awkward at times but I still love its feel), depends. Nothing will ever top the mesmerizing+/soothing Matt Uelmen n Derek Duke stuff tho, for me. I mean, terokkar/shattrath and draenei music, if not everything else....
@@hawkstrike18 lol sorry, I just like the Nordic vibe of wrath a lot more the tbc
@@ianfacerollsyou it's good stuff so I can't truly argue it (further :p), plus you'll keep giving Uncle Mei more views ehehe
Just let TBC music play too sometimes, I see it crying in a corner for years now, everyone keeps mentioning wotlk 😞
@@ianfacerollsyou do search for (even) more music like this btw, if you haven't already... You never know what you'll stumble upon. I'd mention names but I can't recall, but I remember I found these bands/artists easily. Non video game music but still northern and (supposedly?) viking inspired. Now, I obviously haven't listened to them much but my watch later list has plenty of that kind of stuff. Soon TM...
11:00 nice zone
Love it❤️
I use this soundtracks as background music for work. I works beautifully|!
Lets go!
It's really too bad they don't re-use most of this amazing music in other similar areas.
This music makes me want to twerk to it.
Wotlk had the best music/ best scenery in wow history. I hope DF goes up there aswell
I might, actually, pay to boost something for this. I want to play my Boomkin but i haven't got a classic or BC one past 10.
fresh wotlk servers will open with prepatch with xp boost so you can start from zero like the rest and lvl up fast with many players together
Lack of time, I know the feeling :(
better than grizzly hills music, fight me.
35:30
anyone know the wind instrument playing on the Skorn part?
Soon.
26th September 2022.....
this was such a great zone, the music is amazing
wish they would have used the updated engine for classic and used the new assets and textures they made for cata to replace the old ones. they could have then redone the assets for tbc and wrath
That bad? I find them decent. I regard WoW Classic (up until WotLK) as Classics. Keeping the original textures and feeling is part of the experience.
But I know what you are saying, I notice a big difference even in terms of lighting.