GPU PCB Breakdown: Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme Airo
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I'd love to see a hardware ranking video to see what tiers you think each board partner's design and performance is at. Especially for motherboards. Seems that the top dogs aren't really acting like top dogs lately
This thing looks less like a graphics card and more like an audio amplifier
To me this looks like a gpu :)
This is the first Nvidia GPU I've had in many years that has no coil whine whatsoever and the best cooling of any card I've used at least from what I've had. Had an Asus Strix 3090 that whined like hell, 2x 2080 Tis FE cards that whined, 2x 1080 Tis FE that also whined. Last silent GPUs that I've owned were 2x MSI 980 Tis. This card for me auto boosts to 2820Mhz and tends to stay locked at 2790 to 2800Mhz under heavy path tracing workloads while staying at 65c and under. I absolutely love this GPU.
Going for the one with the least amount of coil whine is always the best choice.
That has been my experience as well, I got it mostly because of the lack of coil whine and low noise in general. It's running almost 24/7 in my bedroom, so I need it to be as silent as possible when I sleep.
I play games on it as well, not as much as I'd like, but it is a 4090, and behaves like one.
Great and informative video as usual. Thanks for uploading this kind of non mainstream content.
I have this card and while I'm overall happy with it even with modest OC potential, the cooler is really holding it back. It has an extremely high minimum fan speed and overly noisy bearings, so if you're not going to water-cool it I'd pick something else.
My experience is completely different. Best GPU cooler I've ever had (coming from EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra). Very quiet and it barely touches 70C during time spy stress tests.
@@PlasmaNugget Same here , no issues at all , but I did test same cooler on the 4070Ti and 4080 , the 4080 ran hotter on the hot spot, maybe it needed the vapor chamber , that the 4090 has .
I'm going to water cool it soon, the cooler works really well, the fans are BAD, awful noise, BUT coil whine is absent, miles and miles better then Strix, waterforce and FTW3 i owned in the past
If the fan speed is higher than 60%, it will be loud, but in normal use, it never reach 50% fan speed, you can control it by using msi after burner.
I have this card as well and it runs cool and quiet. I got it mostly because from what I had seen and heard, this lacked coil whine, which many 4090 cards struggled with. And I've experienced no coil whine at all for the 7-8 months I've had it.
Not the best overclocker, but I wasn't planning on putting an OC on it anyway (but ofc I did, I just can't help myself).
I'd never heard of Zotac but managed to get their 3090 circa early 2021 at below retail price thanks to a sale at my local supplier. Have been more than happy with the card despite it being an unknown brand to me. Still would have preferred something from the big names but during the gpu shortage the options were low, unless you wanted to pay 1.5-2.0x rrp.
It's a brand from Hong Kong, where I live! Pretty awesome fact for me haha!
Am I the only one that has a really bad OCD about those crooked components? Like the vrms. Like I thought these things were made by machine. WTF
I am very grateful that this channel exists. The knowledge is outstanding. This means I really do not need to become a subject matter expert in order to get great recommendations..... I miss EVGA as the best GPU manufacturer. Does someone remember Hercules? They became the very first top tear Nvidia GPU partner, then ASUS came and in the end EVGA. I hope EVGA ider/and/or start working with Framework, Intel Battlemage. I need to see Nvidia sweating hard.
EVGA is shutting up shop altogether, not getting involved with Intel or anyone else.
@@stevewatson6839 This information is making me sad. I hope they find a way to get back in the game. I really hope EVGA make new GPU's
@@stanislavshopov85 Private company. The CEO has reasons other than Nvidia being awful business partners for moving on and has no interest in selling the company either. Given all the key staff are gone and employed elsewhere, there is no way the card or mobo parts of the business could come back anyway. From the fact that their latest PSU's have only a three year, as opposed to ten year, warranty, I think we can say psu will be gone in three years too and they are just honouring previous contracts with suppliers and using up inventory parts.
Thank you ! , I did want the Asus ROG Strix ,but for three hundred dollars less I got the Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme Airo ,more than happy with it , running it stock with a fan curve .
Which fan curve are you using? When I try to use one (MSI Afterburner) it then always turns on the fans to 30% and does not go into Idle anymore. Do you also hear your fans when they start spinning? (the motor of these seems to be quite audible).
I don't understand the confusion about the 16V cap on a presumed 5V rail. There are over a dozen of the same capacitor already on the board, of course they are not going to add another BOM item for the fraction of a cent savings with a lower-rated cap.
Fuck yes! Man, i looked for this; I just couldn't find a good series / vendor at all for a new card, finally found interest in the Extreme AMP stuff, despite the new rather 'kiddy' overall appearance now, but meh; watched the other vids on these as well!
Wanted to see this! +10 thumbs up! /: will keep monitoring for news on broken PCB, hopefully this finally is some fine candidate for next card, and quite happy with current AMP extreme
What's with the wonky vrm placement? Would have thought it'd be machines doing the placement and soldering?
Yeah seeing Wonky VRM Components upsets my OCD & I want to straighten them
Machine can also be janky too. I have seen Asus 3090 with many janky ceramic capacitors on it, and Asus is known to have almost fully automated, highly precision manufacturing processes.
inductors tend to move a around durisoldering.
I have this card along with a MSI Gaming X Trio and a Nvidia Founders card. In most games I have tested at 4k it is 3 frames down on the founders and 3 frames up on the MSI. Going by reviews it is about 3 frames down on the Strix at stock. In Blender renderings it is about a 10th of a second slower than the founders card, In ai image generation with Automatic1111 it is about 7 10th of a second slower than the founders. So basically in 3D, ai and games I don't notice a difference in performance between the 2 cards. The MSI was only tested in games and went straight into an editing rig so I have no more info on it other than it stays cool.
The main issue with the Zotac is its size. The founders card fits perfectly in my Lian li o11 EVO and with the Zotac I had to leave the side glass off. Between the 3, the best card is the founders but I can't get them when I want them so if I needed a card now I would get another Zotac AMP.
the silicon lottery generally has more performance impact then the PCB design. Also a better PCB just helps with max overclocks not out of the box performance.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I did 3D for a living and my biggest hardware problem was heat over time. To combat this I bought GPUs and motherboards that are good overclockers since they stay cooler longer. Your site has helped me in this.
Thanks
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking That's why I run it stock , no two systems are the same , 4090 is more than sufficient for playing games.
Great video
Hope you get the Tuff PCB Breakdown soon.
Can you breakdown PCB colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC ? Got two of them , kinda interesting to know what power stage vulcan has.
What's the consequence of components leaning beyond their white border?
Which 4090 is BZ referring to when saying almost half the VRM is missing?
Any chance you can cover the XFX 6950xt black edition?
So it's between the white variant of this Airo and the White Trinity OC that Zotac just released. Smaller middle fan, lack of the vapor chamber and 14+4 Power cycle (vs 24+4) kind of makes me go in the direction of the Extreme Airo, but the price difference is about $500. (Trinity White OC $1630 vs $2150 Airo Extreme) so my question is are the upgrades of the Airo worth the extra $500? How much performance will I stand to lose? I do like Overclocking however I don't intend to do anything major.... I just want the most frame bang for my buck. Thanks in advance, I'm going to the all-white aesthetic otherwise the Airo Extreme (non white) is going for the same price as the white Trinity OC.
Next aorus master ?
Hei Bill Lloyd
I enjoy watching your videos. Rich and agnostic content. Started when you tested many motherboards for i9 9900k and i bought one based on that . *by the way i bought gibabyte aourus master*. Tks.
Now it is time to buy the rtx 4090, and here i am :). GPU, Memory...are basically the same, what differs from vendor to vendor (under the hood perspective) , if i understood correctly, is the combination of design, implementation and quality components (PCB, fans...)
If it is not a problem to ask, from the "under the hood" perspective (design, implementation and quality components), which 4090 that you brokedown, in your technical opinion , has achieved a better solution for 4090 generation ?
To me, as a layman in this subject, as more as i read reviews and etc, more confuse i get (coild whine , pcb cracking, 55, 70 amp stages, limit 450w, 600w, connectors melting.... )
Thanks
Ricky
Can you do a breakdown for the igame vulcan oc 4090, Gpu power running furmark on bios 1 with 3 pcie power cables goes upto 490 watts wen it should be 450
So if I adequately cool the core and the memory then with some airflow those cheap 6mm x 6mm aluminum heatsinks are enough to keep the mosfets cool?
That's why I use a fan curve , and have a cold room plus excellent ventilation .
yeah should be enough
G'day Buildzoid,
I would guess that this model is just pronouned Aero, like MSI say theirs is Supreme,
I get that Partners are trying to be creative or Trendy but some of these PC Component names are just getting Dumb
It's "Air-OHHHHHHHHHHH!"
I have a question. If the PWM signal can be sent to multiple power stages, then what is the purpose of doublers? Is there a pro/con to using doublers versus just sending the signal to 2/3/4/etc stages directly?
Voltage regulation benefits and potentially current balancing.
Also there're no triplets to speak of. Doubler is a thing, so is quadruplet, but no triplets. So in this card's case, they have to go with the shove one pwm signal into three DrMOS approach.
@@Sebyllis7350k Thanks for the answer. Just to be clear which method has the benefits? Doublers or PWM to multiple power stages?
Could you do the FE too?
did that already
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking thank you! Found it. It was way back. I gave up scrolling on your yt videos like and found it from ggl instead
commenting for the algo.
🙂👍
I greatly recommend not getting any 4090 model from Zotac. Their customer support is atrocious and when I claimed the warranty, they sent me back a used, broken GPU (not mine). Now I'm stuck with a non-functioning card and no money. Will probably sell it as a broken GPU for like five hundred bucks, maybe I could get a used amd gpu that way for now.
Sorry, but zotac boards and parts look kinda cheap. Founders looks built better or MSI suprim… nothing like EVGA though. God ima miss EVGA
EVGA mostly just used reference PCBs with the exception of the KP cards and some FTWs.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking yeah that’s what I mean the ftw were great
First.
you weren't first
tl;dr?
Sure, give us one
Air....... O..... pretty simple really.