Messerschmitt Bf-108 - Restoration Update #13 - October 2019

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  • @Jack-Wall
    @Jack-Wall 4 года назад +1

    This whole channel is how to record aviation history ... thank you. Really appreciate these Mechanic's Corner and Mt. Weeks' restoration progress visits.

  • @funkinflugen
    @funkinflugen 4 года назад +31

    Paul, love the updates...have to say, you have great camera presence and seem pretty comfortable with your delivery...makes these episodes that much more educational and enjoyable.

  • @knucklehead7456
    @knucklehead7456 4 года назад +1

    I hear ya!! I got in on painting a B58 Barron once and we spent A MONTH+ going around EVERY SINGLE RIVET with a pocket knife and sand paper but it was REALLY NICE when we finished it up

  • @jssmallcal3165
    @jssmallcal3165 4 года назад +4

    Paul, you have my total respect and admiration. I sense signs of fatigue in this latest video. Please keep up the great work. We are your addicts on this project.

  • @briancurran9729
    @briancurran9729 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Paul. Detroit,Michigan.

  • @markoldham5403
    @markoldham5403 4 года назад +1

    All the restoration videos are the most fascinating part of this site. Like everyone commenting here, I really enjoy seeing the detail of how the planes were engineered, constructed, and now restored.. The skill, knowledge, and precision of the staff like Paul and Rick and everyone at FOF is so impressive and such a treat to see. Thanks you guys.

  • @donaldparlettjr3295
    @donaldparlettjr3295 4 года назад +4

    As always , Paul explains it perfectly. Reminds me of the old Silver Hill Paul Garber facility when Mary Feik and Rich Horrigan were there. They could explain all the nuances of the restoration they were working on. I miss the old gang.

    • @thomasdonohue781
      @thomasdonohue781 4 года назад +1

      I was a member of the American Aviation Historical Society -DC Chapter and we used to meet in the workshop area once every other month. The organiser had the speakers come in and the restoration staff were regulars. I don't remember the staff names but I know we all paid close attention. Bill Surgie (Yorktown sailor on Dr. Ballard's search) was the person who got me interested.

  • @jrad1009
    @jrad1009 4 года назад +1

    Always a pleasure to see the Bf-108 updates..thanks for your attention to detail!

  • @humidorworks4536
    @humidorworks4536 4 года назад +1

    Great update! I appreciate you taking us along the process and gives us greater appreciation to the skill and dedication you put in all of your restorations. Also loved the new intro format. Looking forward to the next installment... Thanks!

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart4172 4 года назад +1

    Great to see such regular updates on this lovely old lady. Good luck to all the crew!

  • @chrispalmer5662
    @chrispalmer5662 4 года назад +1

    Paul. One aircraft engineer to another, thanks for another masterclass. The electrical looming attachments are fascinating. I'll bet you were as surprised as all of us when you found them. Really odd, and an interesting talking point in the shop here. However, I don't think we'll use the technique in our avionic installations :)

    • @robincharlton8682
      @robincharlton8682 4 года назад

      Would be interested to know if the screw heads on the electrical attachments where filled at the time of the later repairs, or if this is how they left the factory.

  • @Bigmack573
    @Bigmack573 4 года назад +3

    Thanks Paul, I really enjoy this part of FOF'S RUclips videos and of course thanks to Kermit
    Great to understand the amount of work which goes into a real restoration .
    Downunder Lindsay

  • @johnschultz9947
    @johnschultz9947 4 года назад +1

    Fascinating series, great work!

  • @dennissumnerdsumner4804
    @dennissumnerdsumner4804 4 года назад +1

    I am really enjoying the BF108 restoration. Quite interesting!

  • @pinkdispatcher
    @pinkdispatcher 4 года назад +5

    If no-one has mentioned it yet: the placard on the instrument panel is interesting. It reads "Canopy jettison! 1. Fly slow if possible, 2. Open the upper central handle, 3. Push the lateral jettison handles forward. Doors will then be lifted rearwards on both sides."

  • @davidperry970
    @davidperry970 4 года назад +2

    Thanks Paul for sharing your work. Looks great.

  • @TumzDK
    @TumzDK 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing! Always a pleasure to see a new FOF video. :-)

  • @angelreading5098
    @angelreading5098 4 года назад +1

    Sterling progress Paul,your attention to the smallest details that sometimes get missed out in restorations is so commendable,soucing for the best way forward can get interesting and I am sure looking at those leather seat belts someone skilled will accept the challenges and get those made up,a good saddle shop would seem to be a good place to start ? but no doubt you have already looked into that.
    The ground loop damage shows us exactly what happens when a side load is imposed upon any airframe and the extent of the damage that can be done.
    Thank you for your time in explaining what is going on behind the scenes as far as I know no other museum does this to the extent of your detailed workmanship.

  • @Mrcaffinebean
    @Mrcaffinebean 4 года назад +1

    Looking great guys! Love these blogs!

  • @Chodda
    @Chodda 4 года назад +2

    a true labor of love. slow and steady. do everything right. this will turn out to be a great plane. thanks for preserving history

  • @johanndaart7326
    @johanndaart7326 4 года назад +8

    I've binge watched every 108 vid and I'm waiting for more! Great plane, great series and it's great to see such attention to detail by Paul! There are many far cheaper and easier car restorations that cut corners on details, even on safety (hello B is for Build and his steel front frame mounted to aluminum frame on Lotus). Meanwhile, this is crazy expensive and you guys keep it straight, down to (German) millimeter.

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 4 года назад +1

    So much work. You are amazing. Thank you

  • @tpalshadow
    @tpalshadow 4 года назад +1

    Such an amazing video series, thank you.

  • @darkredvan
    @darkredvan 4 года назад +34

    A masterpiece again by Paul. He clearly knows what he is doing and showing and explaining it as it should be done. Slowly, step by step, never hurrying or talking faster. An exceptional series of restoration videos. I know it‘s silly, but I am waiting for the next one even now. 👍

    • @scotabot7826
      @scotabot7826 4 года назад +2

      No, not silly at all. This type of knowledge and craftsmanship is slowly being lost as the true airframe artists are getting older!

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 4 года назад +1

    Lots of work for....Sure...Thanks for the update...Paul and u'all..!

  • @kevinstephenson3880
    @kevinstephenson3880 4 года назад +1

    Great progress Paul! Keep on truckin'!

  • @shortribslongbow5312
    @shortribslongbow5312 4 года назад +1

    Very nice video, thanks for the update.

  • @rleeAZ
    @rleeAZ 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the detailed look at your process. This will be one beautiful bird when complete. Love your exacting standards.

  • @n3307v
    @n3307v 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for posting these Kermit. Very interesting series.

  • @piperjohn_3
    @piperjohn_3 4 года назад +2

    The Bauhaus inspired sans serif font that Messerschmitt uses for everything is so beautiful. Pre- Helvetica but very close to it.

  • @davewilliams6172
    @davewilliams6172 4 года назад +3

    You've got to love that Bondo...not! I am surprised at the slot screws for the wiring, who would have thought that was a good idea?
    I hope the engine mount area is going to be OK, that could be a right pain if not.
    Thanks for the update Paul, you are doing a grand job, I bet you will be glad when all the paint is off lol.
    Looking forward to the next episode.

  • @arnhemseptember2009
    @arnhemseptember2009 4 года назад +1

    Great job again.

  • @longfieldcommercials
    @longfieldcommercials 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for update

  • @DerredmaxTRIAX
    @DerredmaxTRIAX 4 года назад +1

    God I love this channel! Thanks Kermit. So interesting!!!

  • @joefrawley5295
    @joefrawley5295 4 года назад +1

    Another great video. Thanks Paul. I'd think people would be lining up to redo those seat belts as it's only leather. Very interesting.

  • @UNDR08
    @UNDR08 4 года назад +1

    Great video! Enjoy all the updates of the 108. Thanks for sharing the progress with us airplane nuts
    For the leather work on the seat belts. Might check with Black Hills Leather in Texas. They make custom leather products. I’m not sure if they’d be able to help with the non leather parts of the seat belts.

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 4 года назад +2

    Awesome! Thank you for posting!

  • @trisrush9155
    @trisrush9155 4 года назад +13

    Seatbelt = safety equipment =potential liability
    Could be the reason for the lack of interest, I’d take a look in the direction of the classic and classic racer guys. I would bet jay Leno has a guy for this kinda stuff.
    Awesome progress!

    • @s.sestric9929
      @s.sestric9929 4 года назад +2

      Tell the makers that it's vintage BDSM gear instead of a seatbelt.

    • @trisrush9155
      @trisrush9155 4 года назад +2

      S. SESTRIC that could double the price! 😂

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son 4 года назад

      ​@@dazaspc taking on someone else's liability and making it criminal in the process should probably be a last resort.

    • @unclejack123
      @unclejack123 4 года назад

      Since Mr. Weeks is "self insured" I doubt litigation would come into play ....... an interesting topic for a "Kermie Cam" discussion though ................. ;-p

  • @hipzipper1
    @hipzipper1 4 года назад +1

    Looking forward to seeing this beauty fly.

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak 4 года назад +6

    This is such a great project. Can't wait to see it done!

  • @kittonsmitton
    @kittonsmitton 4 года назад +2

    One of life's worthwhile quests.

  • @ralphwatten2426
    @ralphwatten2426 4 года назад +1

    With all the stress related to the accident I wonder if the engine mount itself was "tweeked". Another super interesting restoration video from FoF. Thanks-

  • @MichaelTutino
    @MichaelTutino 4 года назад +1

    As always... Great update. I am just an enthusiast, but love to track your progress. Paul it may be Kermit's thing but I always look forward to your updates.

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna737 4 года назад

    I don't know anything. But if I had anything to do with it I would want to take those magnesium wing fillets off and take a look underneath. This was a marvelous update; thank you for taking the trouble.

    • @KermitWeeks444
      @KermitWeeks444  4 года назад +1

      Had them off already when looking over fuel tanks. it's in an earlier episode.

  • @MrWachowsky
    @MrWachowsky 4 года назад +1

    Great episode!

  • @haroldmclean3755
    @haroldmclean3755 4 года назад +1

    Keep up the Good Work 👍😀👍

  • @jimfuller5309
    @jimfuller5309 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic!!!

  • @fsj197811
    @fsj197811 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 2 года назад +1

    Back in the 60s my brother & I destroyed dozens of UK WW2 aircraft temperature gauges by hammering through the dials to get the magnets. Who knows how much radium dust we breathed in doing that...

  • @AnvilDragon
    @AnvilDragon 4 года назад

    At this point you might as well build an auto-body style rotisserie with a worm drive to access the bottom for paint removal and restoration work. If adjustable in length and with adjustable arms that mimic the engine mounts it should be usable on multiple single engine projects later.

  • @nathanmoeller3252
    @nathanmoeller3252 4 года назад +1

    There's a mom and pop shoe/luggage/leather shop in Charleston, SC that might be able to help you out with the seatbelts. It's called Peter and Son's Shoe and Luggage repair. They've done some great work for me, admittedly totally unrelated to seatbelts, but the quality of their work has been outstanding in my experience.

  • @stephenroberts4895
    @stephenroberts4895 4 года назад

    Going to interesting to see it when finished. Just sitting still it'll look just as lethally amazing as it did in original form.

    • @tater_relocater
      @tater_relocater 4 года назад

      Stephen Roberts lethal? It was a post war passenger plane .

    • @darkredvan
      @darkredvan 4 года назад +1

      Paul schwanz: Sorry no. It was a pre-war leisure and tourism plane.

  • @thomasdonohue781
    @thomasdonohue781 4 года назад +1

    As Jerry and Charles mention below, a parachute rigger may be the answer for the needed seat belt work.

  • @mikercflyer7383
    @mikercflyer7383 4 года назад +1

    Great work.

  • @bonzogamer6966
    @bonzogamer6966 4 года назад +2

    Very interesting about the instruments!

  • @me109g4
    @me109g4 4 года назад +1

    Definately a lot more done than l expected from the last video to this one. Am amazed at how good it looks.Looking forward to its first flight. I do recall on a UK forum some commenting on the radioactive component of the instruments, is it really that big a deal or are the Europeans just nanny stating?

  • @odonovan
    @odonovan 4 года назад +4

    0:59 - You have it in a cradle. Couldn't you just get a lift and some straps and rotate the fuselage 90 degrees? You could chem strip most of the underside, except for what was under the lift straps. If you could actually have a crew hand-lift the front then the back of the fuselage at that point, so you could move the lift straps, you could then get the parts which were under the straps and would have it 100 percent done.
    2:19 - Ground loops aren't necessarily a bad thing. P-47 pilots were taught to ground loop their planes when landing on short runways, if they were running out of runway and still going a bit too fast. Of course, that's kind of like ground looping a tank, since the Jug was so sturdy, so it's no wonder they could get away with doing that.
    13:00 - That is DEFINITELY not an original piece...or at least not a stock one. I could not find any others with anything like that on the panel. They pretty much all look like this one, with ALL flush-mounted instruments. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Bf108_Cockpit.png . You seem to have a very strange animal, there. Best guess would be that the body of whatever replacement or updated instrument (tachometer?) they had to use was larger around and thicker than the original, so they had to fabricate that mount to make it fit into the panel, then had to move the top (single) instrument (clock?) higher up as well. Since there were already three other instruments which were not flush-mounted, it fit in rather nicely, once it was installed. Your panel seems to have larger mounts than the standard ones I've seen pictures of. The instruments are a lot closer to the sides of the panel. The switches being BELOW the manifold pressure gauge is a bit non-standard as well. Most pictures show them outboard and level with that row of gauges.

  • @donaldreach760
    @donaldreach760 4 года назад +1

    You might question a tack shop that does saddlery repairs for your seatbelts. They work with leather and have heavy stitching ability.

  • @johnnicatra570
    @johnnicatra570 4 года назад +1

    Nice work

  • @scottwooster4102
    @scottwooster4102 4 года назад +1

    For the BF-108 Paul said he is looking to find someone to work on the leather. I recommend contacting Adam Savage. He seems to have a network of people who do all types of work including leather. Check out the "Tested" RUclips channel.

  • @mobessiere2864
    @mobessiere2864 4 года назад

    I can't say I am into that type of aircraft. But when were talking restoration Paul you have my full on attention. At what part of the restoration did you know that there was Magnesium on the airplane? Your not kidding about old instruments. I think I am not far behind you when it comes to UH-1H and HH-1H.

  • @petebrand6661
    @petebrand6661 4 года назад +1

    after viewing all thedata i can find on the BF-108 and a number of photos, the add on part of the instrument panel is a later instalation from post 1960 , i say this as all the pictures i have on bf-108s not one of them include this add on

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 4 года назад +1

    As to your cloth and leather seat belts. I would think that any number of Saddle maker in the Lexington and Louisville Kentucky area would be able to help.

  • @charlesbarry7479
    @charlesbarry7479 4 года назад +1

    For the sea tbelts call the nearest USAF parachute shop.

  • @gmcjetpilot
    @gmcjetpilot 4 года назад +1

    8:15 draggy scoop but effective.

  • @MicheleBoland
    @MicheleBoland 4 года назад +1

    Airtech is awesome!

  • @bigun447
    @bigun447 4 года назад +2

    DARN IT! We have to wait another month or month and a half. Bummer.

  • @ebeirne1
    @ebeirne1 4 года назад +1

    Looking very smart. Do you work on other aircraft at the same time?

  • @Djjoemi
    @Djjoemi 4 года назад +1

    Paul, for the seatbelt look up some RUclips makers, like Jimmy Diresta or even Adam Savage. Those 2 like working on leather and can make a RUclips video out of it on there channel as well for this channel. Also there are a lot if makerspace location in the US (1 in Orlando) that have young people learning these craftsmanship. Maybe they can help you out.

  • @hansleatherby1032
    @hansleatherby1032 4 года назад +1

    great project

  • @gmcjetpilot
    @gmcjetpilot 4 года назад

    7:46 why keep all those electrical clamps with external screws that are covered by the paint, just get modern wiring clamps that bond on.

  • @MARKLOCKWOOD2012
    @MARKLOCKWOOD2012 4 года назад

    I wander if the orange paint stripper is safe for aircraft aluminum? I think it’s safe for human skin I’d check into a bottle and see if the gel would work?

  • @edstoro3883
    @edstoro3883 4 года назад

    Excellent coverage of the radium problem. We also liked the comments about the price to rebuild the instruments. Please, please, please keep these type of comments in future clips.
    Could you also comment how you finished the aluminum panels after the paint remover. How are you stopping the acid? Did you alodine? The surface is beautiful. Please educate us.

  • @lulubellers
    @lulubellers 4 года назад +1

    There's a bf-109 for sale in Germany DB 605 too.

  • @blimpcommander1337
    @blimpcommander1337 4 года назад +1

    Seatbelts. Check with Steve Adams in Orlando. I think Kermit knows him. If you need contact info, reply on this comment and I will see it. Fairly certain it was Kermit flying the Mustang in circles around the Direct TV blimp a few years ago when I was heading to Tampa. I had some great air to air shots and lost them when my laptop crashed.

  • @mileskhan5683
    @mileskhan5683 4 года назад +1

    Do you guys at FOF think this Bf 108 could have been a Messerschmitt demonstration airplane? Considering the original color was that blue.

    • @odonovan
      @odonovan 4 года назад +1

      @Miles Khan, that IS very possible, considering the logbook starts in 1942 (at time of sale?) and the plane already had 350 hours on it, at that time. See 4:27 of this video. ruclips.net/video/nYwoBGIMukA/видео.html

  • @darkredvan
    @darkredvan 4 года назад +1

    One remark regarding the instrument panel / instruments: I would say it depends on what you want to get. There are quite a lot of pics of 108 instrument panels on the web (original 1930 - 1940´s ones and modern / restored ones as well). I found several quite different layouts which differred more or less from each other. An interesting version is the one of Messerschmitt Foundation Manching on their 108. putting needed modern avionics in the glove box behind a door (below the original instrument panel). Regarding the directional gyro one option would be to look for a German one (German name: Kurskreisel) if you can get one. Most pneumatical ones were built by Askania, Berlin. As some were license built US ones, you could use a similar American one.instead (Askania´s Lgc 3A was a Sperry license -A3?-). You might want to have a look here: www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-22423-kurskreisel-1940

  • @ahugs8843
    @ahugs8843 4 года назад +1

    You could speak with Adam Savage (his company/youtube is Tested) about making the seatbelt piece. If he isn't interested in doing it he might know someone who would be.

  • @pauldraddy5811
    @pauldraddy5811 4 года назад

    Think I would want to take a look inside the rear fuselage, that damage looks like a tail strike rather than a ground loop?

  • @133dave133
    @133dave133 4 года назад +1

    A suggestion would be Bedo's Leatherworks. He's on youtube under that name.

  • @rolandalfonso6954
    @rolandalfonso6954 4 года назад +1

    This was wonderful, start to finish, word for word. Need leather work for seat belts? Might wanna call a woman named Andrea Burgess. Used to work for Kermit. Now works for Disney. Got mad skilz.

  • @philliplopez8745
    @philliplopez8745 4 года назад +2

    The secret is , aluminum foil . Paint the stripper onto foil , apply treated foil to underside of airplane . No drips , no problems . Foil also can be used to increase affectivness of stripper by preventing the dry out of stripper applied to other surfaces .

  • @bobbreit5244
    @bobbreit5244 4 года назад

    Who is qualified and how does this airplane get inspected as you put it back together?

  • @pat36a
    @pat36a 4 года назад +2

    Seat belts, talk to Race Car Seat belt manufacturers. IE Simpson Safety Equipment.
    Don't know if they will do a one off.
    Some re-web old belts that go out of Date.
    Just trying to help.

  • @hotironaircraftshop
    @hotironaircraftshop 4 года назад

    'love the inverted v-12. That had fuel injection, right?

    • @darkredvan
      @darkredvan 4 года назад

      John Brenneise This engine is an inverted V-8, air cooled Argus As-10. Argus engines had 2 carburetors. In fact a development of the As 10, the As 410 / 411 (inverted V-12) was the last German engine series developed with carburetors.

    • @hotironaircraftshop
      @hotironaircraftshop 4 года назад

      @@darkredvan Thanks! I like to learn something new whenever I can. Are you aware of anyone retrofitting fuel injection either to a Merlin V-1650 or to an Allison V-1710?

    • @darkredvan
      @darkredvan 4 года назад

      John Brenneise Sorry John, I have no idea.

  • @LCMNUNES1962
    @LCMNUNES1962 4 года назад +2

    ÓTIMO TRABALHO, A HISTÓRIA DESSE AVIÃO, BRASIL OK.

  • @janfrankena1440
    @janfrankena1440 4 года назад

    why are you don't dig in the damage en restore the plane with new cheats of aluminum, specially the damage around the landing gear and at the left front of the cockpit?
    In my opinion this will make the plane more save and reliable than ceep this repairs as it is .

  • @TheMot616
    @TheMot616 4 года назад +1

    Bedos Leather works Falls Church, VA 22046

  • @scottwatrous
    @scottwatrous 4 года назад +1

    Considering the price of aviation instrumentation in general, even for relatively recent commodity avionics, the idea of spending all of $6k for an overhauled set of original German 1930's instruments seems like a bargain. I'd have expected the full set to be many times that cost.

    • @Milkmans_Son
      @Milkmans_Son 4 года назад

      I thought he was going to say 50k.

  • @P51
    @P51 4 года назад +2

    interesting that Germany was using chrome in the '30s. i'd have bet nickel...goes to show you what i know!

  • @chestertownelectric6290
    @chestertownelectric6290 Год назад

    Some instruments are filled with radioactive tritium gas so the markings always glow. This has to be evacuated by a specialist.

  • @johnhayter4600
    @johnhayter4600 4 года назад +1

    There are a couple of companies who make luggage in the UK using materials that look very similar to the seatbelts that you want to replicate. They are www.chapmanbags.com and www.houseofmillican.com. I have used their luggage for years and have been delighted with the quality of materials and workmanship. I don't know if there would be certification issues as they don't (to the best of my knowledge) do work for the aerospace industry.

  • @brettlloyd5764
    @brettlloyd5764 4 года назад +1

    Restore more WW2 planes

  • @richardbertino8859
    @richardbertino8859 4 года назад +2

    Call jay Leno. He know bridal shops

    • @ziggy2shus624
      @ziggy2shus624 4 года назад +3

      Leno needed some engine hood tie down belts for a circa 1910 auto and went to a horse bridal shop and they made a duplicate for very little money.
      Of course liability for seat belts is a problem. In an aviation accident everyone gets sued. Engine hood tie downs would have nearly no liability.
      In the end, the lawyers get all the money.

    • @lavictoire1960
      @lavictoire1960 4 года назад

      You could also pick up a wedding dress at that “bridal” shop while you are there, lol.

  • @KSA-uu8js
    @KSA-uu8js 4 года назад +2

    putting automotive "mechanics" to shame on a daily basis

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 4 года назад +1

    I bet after you take off all that filler the plane will lose one hundred pounds and fly a lot better !

  • @MF-gw9pk
    @MF-gw9pk 4 года назад

    first

  • @romeoortegaiii2299
    @romeoortegaiii2299 4 года назад +11

    Wow what an interesting learning experience.
    The attention to detail is outstanding.
    Thanks

  • @Spinner1987CH
    @Spinner1987CH 4 года назад +45

    At 4:33 there is a note visible on the wingroot which says: Beim Strassentransport Flügel abnehmen 😂 Means: If transported on roads - remove the wings...

    • @TheFleetflyer
      @TheFleetflyer 4 года назад +10

      The reason for that is the wings fold, but the folding joint probably isn't up to carrying the wings whilst being transported on a bumpy 1930's road.
      Regards, a fellow RV8tor.

  • @toboldlygosmodelworks1973
    @toboldlygosmodelworks1973 4 года назад +1

    With regards the instruments, I can remember a certain P1127 (Harrier prototype) that caused a minor radiation scare at Dunsfold due to the instruments...