Jayson Tatum Pushes Back on Narrative That Celtics are a Super Team | THE ODD COUPLE
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And I agree with him. He and brown were drafted. Porzingis was basically a cast-off and considered a bust by many after his tenure in NY. Holiday is one of the most underrated players in the league and Derrick white is a good role player who is having a great playoffs.
Tatum was drafted into the best situation in his draft and so was JB. Mazzulla inherited a good team, why would he be COTY?
That isn't even close to what happened in NY Porzingis made the 2018 All Star game and played 20 minutes in that game you idiot. he ws the youngest All Star in NBA history. 7'2 can Put the ball on the Floor and Drive like a SF and Dunk on everyone like Scottie Pippen. He was Working on Post up game at a Young Age. NY Has never Paid a Golden Race Guy and Never Will Pay a Golden Race Guy. they only pay blacks or jews in NY
Also Holiday average 19 on all teams Not used in Boston.
Kristaps averaged 24 on all teams. Coach never figured out how to use Holiday and Porzingis who Are Very young.
jayson tatum feels that the media is overreacting when they have bad games but is also saying that the media isn’t consistent cause for the standard to be set that high, they didn’t get the accolades that come with it.
So Tatum’s MVP or even top 4 in the running? Does Mazzulla even resemble a coach of the year candidate?
Pure clownery 🤡, no wonder Tatum’s shot selection is awful. Not the most self aware guy 😅
@@dcwayne4591 why would Mazzulla be COTY? He inherited a great team? Udoka went further.
@@yahcrack they should have kept Udoka and fired the harlot. Celtics FO is too woke
They aren’t a super team. They are a good team with really good player. Warriors were a super team
Warriors were OD
So suns was a super team
who in the hell call the celtics a superteam???😂😂 jayson tatum the only person i ever heard say that
😂😂
They don’t even have a number 1
@@rabbit4583 they have a #2 and a #3 who people hype as a #1 and a #2
😂😂😂😂facts!!
Me too
So wait, everyone says Tatum is so vanilla it’s a fault. But when he speaks his mind they say why aren’t you saying the vanilla speech? And are upset about it lol
People's brains are all fuxked up I America... no real discernment amongst people at all.. just wanna laugh and judge at their own behest and lack thereof....
Great roster with a G-League Coach!
Getting the KD vibes from Tatum
Well both are weak leaders. They have that in common. KD just a much better shooter.
@@ErnieBert-eg8kd Tatum is absolutely nowhere near peak KDs talent but I get the same mentality vibes
Lmao
Kd has 2 rings with game multiple winners in lebrons face. Im not a fan of either, but theres a difference
Dude just weak
The odd couple yall the goat
@@marlonthemightysmith7836 Chris at the office on ftf, hes at the crib on the odd couple
@@marlonthemightysmith7836 pathetic how a grown man can spew so much hate in YT comment sections😂
@marlonthemightysmith7836 just go home and sleep! 😉🤌
@@marlonthemightysmith7836then go on and watch someone else, bye
Two homosexuals mad at a opinion
Lmaoo I love how the Celtics have lost TWO playoff games and are currently 6-2 in the playoffs right now against the Heat and Cavs and the media is acting like the sky is falling.
Imo Celtics aren't a "super team" but are a historically stacked roster. Tatum and Brown are allstars, White, Jrue, Kristaps, Horford are all really good players.
What's the difference....
Porzingis is a total flop. He missed 1/3 of regular season games. He likely won’t be back this season even in the finals if they make it. If we do make the finals porzingis will have missed more than 2/3 of the post season. This was a bad deal for the Celtics.
so how s suns super team?
@@ojoj5194 because they have 2 superstars and a high caliber all star. That's the modern model for a superteam
If you trade Tatum for LeBron everyone would scream superteam lol so how they not a superteam now
Super team is a weird term when jrue is like 33 horford is 37 and starts now with porzingis out...their bench is like hauser pritchard kornet and newer acquisition tillman barley plays....I don't know about super team....if they had a solid 3 point shooting long wing defender off the bench I might say super team when healthy...they don't
Y’all change definitions by the day 😂 there is not 3+stars on this team. Js cause they exceed expectations doesn’t mean everyone on their team is suddenly “super” cmon y’all 😂🤦♂️
Wish we had longer episodes but l like the content 💯
They aren't a super team, but it doesn't matter. They have the easiest path to the Finals & have been the best team all year.
I also think people overreact too much after 1 game.
Yes, they are. The fact that Jaylen Brown can be the best player on the Celtics should tell you a lot. The fact that Derrick White (4th guy) can average 20 tells me that that's a super team.
Agree that it don’t matter if they are a super team or not. With the current state of the East, anything less than a finals appearance would be a major failure.
@@Because_Truth_Matters they are not a super team because a super team has more than two Hall of Famer’s on it. This is not the Miami Heat team with LeBron Chris Bosch, and the way those are three Hall of Famer that’s a super team. This is not a super team.
@@Someone_VIP the East isn't as bad as it was from 2010-2018. At least the East current has teams like Boston, bucks , Miami, even the Knicks. The 2010 East top contenders were teams like the Roy Hilbert pg13 pacers and the raptors
@@skywalker2759so suns aren’t a super team
for simplicity purposes, we should just decide whether a super team is a super team by the number of all star selection each players had throughout their career. i’d say if you have more than 15 or 20 combined all star appearances you have a super team. ie 3 players that have been selected more than 5 times as all star definitely should be considered super team
So by this logic you’re saying if LeBron went to Portland they’d be a super team because he has 20 combined all star appearances by himself.
Old Boston Garden was a GREAT place to watch a game! Much better than the new place.
The term “super team” is thrown around too much….Celtics and Suns for that matter are not super teams
Celtics are not and Suns are supposed to be one...
Suns is a superteam. It's just a failed attempt.
Suns are a failed superteam for sure
Suns are a superteam. They just choked
I’m sure people would have considered porzingis to be a player that would qualify in making a super team until the results of the season were already in
Cap. These dudes missed the whole point of the quote, i think on purpose. Taytum said "you didn't reward us like we're a super team." He's calling y'all hypocrites. You're either ignoring that on purpose or its over your head.
Jayson *was* taking a jab at the media with that whole "we didn't get any awards". Every time they lose they come out with the passive aggressive schtick. When it's going well they talk all kinds of nonsense but there's always excuses when they lose. They worry too much about how the media portrays/looks at them.
the funny thing is that the only reason they aren’t a superteam is because tatum isn’t good enough. the rest of the team is superteam level. there are at least 10 guys you could switch tatum with and automatically win a championship
what do you expect. the media constantly talks trash about the celtics.
@@2cents250 media always glazing them wdym lol
"I think I saw a mouse there, I never saw a rat" haashah
Chris,
Why you putting words in his mouth? He didn’t say they weren’t as good as people think. He said they’re not a super team! Big difference!!
I know they aren’t but Derrick White and Porzingis could definitely be All Stars at some point. And we already know Jrue has been one. Maybe not a super team but they’re loaded with talent, especially in the starting 5. I still think they win it all this year
Prozingis has been a all star
I wouldn’t say they have the names to fit the super team narrative but they sure do play like one.
The definition of a Superteam in the nba has changed in recent years its interesting, now All of a sudden its staring to have a more commonsense accurate definition. That wasn’t always the case
Jason Tantrum at it again
So you guys are saying “thats not what ppl want to hear” Rob even gave an example of what ppl what to hear. But question, is he suppose to go out there with the mindset of saying what ppl want to hear ? or can he just express himself how he see if. Which is his human right. Ijs.
Who is calling them a superteam? They don’t have a top 5 player to go with another top 10 player. Super team is a combination of 3 top 12 or so players or something like that .
I don't understand how they not a superteam do you see they roster
With this logic , tell me how suns are labeled a super team and Boston isn’t
Why must the athlete say whatever the media wants them to say? You want the athlete to be honest and say his piece. Regardless of what he says the games must be played.
No superstar player in the NBA will ever admit that they've been on a super team because it's like saying that's why we won. I've only heard Stewie in the WNBA admit that that's why she went to New York because she was forming a super team just like they were down in Las Vegas but that's the WNBA they need all the help they can get to draw attention. Poor people don't realize is just because you are a super team don't mean you win it it's always been that way plus a lot of times a super team doesn't last that long for many reasons sometimes just one maybe two years but if they don't get it done it doesn't mean they wasn't a super team.
What is the definition of a super-team? Idk where's the threshold between that and just a really good team.
The definition is Kevin Durant it seems . 😂 the media is a joke
I never heard the rat story. Funny
They are a super version of the 2017 hawks a really great roster and team but i don’t think they have a top 5 player in the nba and you need a true superstar to win it all
They have one superstar (Tatum), star (brown), can be a star any given day (holiday and the unicorn) and a bunch of SOLID role players (horford, white). Not your traditional super team but is more than enough to win a chip
Not a super team at all.
Why you guys trying to act like you don't know what he's trying to say? He's saying if they were a real super team like Lebron's Heattles or Steph Curry's warriors they would have the mvp, more all stars etc. In other words, he's saying their just a a good team but if you want to put them on a pedestal then you got to give them the awards and accolades to go along with it. He's saying you can't have it both ways. That's all. Not too complicated. He has a point too. You guys didn't address the crux of it
I mean tatum and Jaylen the only 1 top 5 at theyre positions and Brown mite not be a top 5 shooting guard. People gave up on the other 3 Poerzingis was soft and injury prone. Jrue was falling off his defense was slipping and derrick white no 1 talked about. The team offers balance that cover each other flaws perfect.
Celtics are a Super Team. They have 3 Players in the top 20 that is what a Super Team is.
The term superteam was created to deminish Bron's achievements. The 2004 Lakers was a Superteam. The 96 s was a superteam. The 99 Houston Rockets were a superteam. The 86 Celtics were a superteam. The 85 Lakers were a superteam 😂
Nowadays the definition of superteam is Kevin Durant. Lol suns were labeled a superteam but Boston isn’t 😂
It's IRONIC, Einsteins
This is why people are taking about Ant over him. He has the pedigree, the look and the occasional game to be the face of the NBA but he has zero “dawg” in him. It’s not a knock on him. He is just too nonchalant about losing and picks and chooses when he wants to actively dominate a game. He is not taking a shot at the media with his comments. His performance in the playoffs and the Celtics home win/loss record speaks more than his “jab” at the press. He is a great dude, upstanding citizen, model player but his “actions” say none of this is personal. That’s not “face of the league” material to “me”.
Tatum about 10th best player in the NBA Brown about 20th. Porzingis about 20th. That's a good team.
Porzingis isn’t even top 50. He never plays. He missed 1/3 of the regular season. He’s likely out for the rest of the playoffs. Bad trade.
@@ErnieBert-eg8kd Cause they use him wrong as a PG. He is a C like Jokic. he needs to just stay under the rim and he would never get injured. Good Trade they won 62 games and didn't have to try once. also were 2nd all time in Point Differential. only the 96 Bulls had a higher Point Differential. Also you lied. he played 75% of the season. Also the team always loses without him.
His comment had nothing to do with the media and awards. He basically was letting people know that they aren’t a super team. The media is just trying to create a narrative because they’ve exhausted storylines.
So they lose one game. Wtf
Uh, Jason.... you're not on a "super team," but you are on a loaded team. And, with a loaded team, you're expected to win. 1-5, you have one of the best rosters in the NBA. There's no reason they should be losing the way that they are.
Lmao super team / loaded team tf you talking 😂😂
Holiday known as top defender in. Nba
Not every good team is a super team. You need multiple all stars and superstars to be considered a super team
The media has to take responsibility for the narratives they peddle to viewers. Its always a slippery slope trope with them. They lost 2 games... they gonna get swept. They lost tonight by half a point... is this loss the beginning of the end? They feed viewers with click bait titles and always speculate the worst to start discussions but then criticize players for playing the same tropes
Jayson Tatum was 1000% calling out the media for not giving them any awards, best record in the NBA yet no COTY, no top 3 MVP candidate, and no defensive player of the year candidate. The Celtics aren't a super team it's Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown doing the heavy lifting.
Lmao moving goal post . Y’all call Suns a Superteam and they have non of the stuff you just mentioned
@@curtiszyr lml whose moving what goal post, the Suns have 3 first options, a MVP, and championship winning HC. Also the Suns got SWEPT in the first round why are you even mentioning them
@@Lord_Clarke Tatum is mvp caliber player in his prime and brown, porzingis be first option if you counting Beal as a first option. Yes they got swept that’s besides the point . You’re clearly a Boston fan tryna dodge the superteam narrative just incase y’all FAIL lol
@curtiszyr Brown is the only other Celtic whose capable of being a 1st option, KP has failed at trying to be a 2nd option so you're crazy for trying to suggest he could be. It's not about avoiding any label or narrative it's about the truth.
@@Lord_Clarke truth? Lol this is sports , it’s nothing but narratives. Tatum is ranked higher than Durant currently in terms of best players in the league it’s been that way since he was on the nets, brown and booker are pretty much the same level guards all stars all nba and finals appearance. Beal and kp have both failed at being number 1. Not even including the other all defensive guards on Celtics roster . Unless you’re telling me the definition of superteam is just Kevin Durant and whoever he’s playing with
Like I said for years now it’s something in Brossard contract where he has to mention lebron this dude airdrop lebron into every conversation
When did Celtics become a super team? I didn't get that memo.
Tatum is not it, dude is Tmac with a team
Don’t ever disrespect TMAC like that lame ass boy
We never got to see prime T Mac without injuries. Bad example.
@Boston2Boca I don't know how old are u but yes we did if u got to see him in Orlando, dude won 2 or 3 scoring titles. It was just unfortunate grant Hill got hurt. He was supposed to be his pippen
@superman4ever101 Prime years start around 26 or so, and by that time he was already dealing with injuries. We never got to see his full potential. Tatum so far has been relatively healthy, and has answered the call a few times in the playoffs, but he's been horrible so far in these playoffs.
@@Boston2Boca everybody prime doesn't start or finish at the same time . We definitely saw tmac at his best in Orlando and for a short period in Houston
Of course you aren’t a super team. People aren’t even sure you’ll get past the damn cavs.
These Celtic's are so unlikable. Maybe I'm biased as a Bucks fan.
Biggest frauds of our time
I am a lifelong Celtics fan. I cannot stand this core. No heart. Bunch of cowardly lions. I don’t see them winning any championships as long as Mazzulla is the coach and Tatum is their best player. I’m not saying get rid of Tatum but the Celtics front office may need to consider this.
@@ErnieBert-eg8kdI bet if they win the championship you’re gonna claim them, you either riding with your team or you aren’t.
Same, can't stand them. When their 3s aren't falling they are losing.
@@jaydot4956 I hope they do but looking to the last few years and tatums awful performance thus far it’s not looking like a probable outcome. I can’t be riding a team. I grew up in Boston. I get a pass. I would say it’s possible they win a chip anything is possible. I just don’t like Mazzulla and Tatum. The rest of the team is fine.
If the suns are called a superteam than so are the Celtics. Brown and Tatum are going to make probably first or second all nba team again this year along with Kd and booker. And btw porzingus and jrue are top 20 in their respective positions so how would the Celtics not be a superteam. Bradley Beal is not a superstar he has 3 all star selections and a 3rd all nba selection that’s it Tatum and brown have already eclipsed him 😂
So if your a super team that means no excuses this year.. Get it done
I think Tatum had a good game last game but the media overreacts to everything. The East is weak and that's why Celtics were winning games like that. Until the Celtics win, they won't fool me until they win a chip 🏆🏆
I am a life long Celtics fan and this team is certainly not a super team. More like a great regular season team against lesser talent and big time jokers when it matters. Tatum and Brown are way overrated. If this team is not hitting 3s or get behind, especially late in the game they fold. They live and die with the 3 and have no plan B. I blame that on poor coaching. Larry Bird was a super star, he would be like “ give me the F ball and get on my back” I wish what I feel was not true but they are winning nothing. Also home court means nothing to this team. That can’t even show up for their fans at home. Screw this team. I would have moved on from Brown after last season.
Boo. This is sports takery at its most absurd. What was the question Tatum was answering? The media can have takes, but players can’t? You just want them to bullshit and give generic, boilerplate responses, then criticize them for being honest and giving thoughtful answers, all while complaining that there are no marketable American stars with personality and charisma as you’re tripping over yourselves in desperate search for the next “face of the NBA”? It’s embarrassing.
Just hoop Jason
Joe Mazzulla inherited a good team, why would he be COTY?
Can’t be a super team. They weren’t free agency constructed or colluded. However soft take on him deflecting that way
Super teams are too top heavy. Lack depth. LAC out, Lakers out, Suns out,.. etc
''struggle in the clutch'' game 6 against the bucks game 6 against the 76ers game 7 against the 76ers game 1 against the nets but ye not clutch don't jump on the Celtic when we win
I feel like they’re not understanding what Tatum said. He didn’t say “we’re not that good” he said “people like to say we’re a super team, but those same people don’t give us the recognition with all stars and award nods” he’s taking a shot at awards voters and media, not saying his team isn’t that good
Porzingis is out and he is BY far the 3rd best Center overall. Only Embiid and Jokic are better. He's All NBA 3rd Team for the centers.
Just comes across as a lame excuse for losing 🤷♂️
You need a Superstar to be considered a superteam. Tatum and Brown are 2nd tier talents at best.
I’ve never seen goal post being moved like this 😂😂
Nahh bra play the whole clip… yall bs‼️💯
That was the softest quote by Tatum definitely not face of the NbA type shiii
Tatum to the Warriors
They should of kept udoka they lost they defense intensity
Asking how the Celtics will fare in the clutch, when everything is on the line? They fold, that's it. Neither JT or JB are winners.
Celtics is not a superteam. The Suns and the Clippers are the superteams. It's just a failed attempt. Superteams should have at least 3 main guys on different teams then come together in 1 team. The Celtics just have a good group of guys who play well together. They're not a superteam. Which is a good thing actually, considering what they're doing right now. They're successful but they did as as a group, not coz of 3 superstars in one team. He just said the wrong thing.
The clippers are only a super team on paper because there players were top players on other teams before they teamed up. But PG, KL, harden, Westbrook are all past there primes Just like the Houston rockets with Hakeem, pippen, Barkley were past it when they teamed up in 99 and everyone knew it .
That is why no one is picking them to win the championship
If the Celtics are super team so is Minnesota.
I don’t agree with him he needs to change his attitude and find that killer in him he’s just to relaxed find that Jordan or Kobe
Man you can’t win as a player with the media
Hate the Celtics but dont see them as a super team as they are organically put together, especially their 2 main players. On the other hand you have Bron's Miami, Kevin Durrant, and other's.
If Bron , curry , KD , Gianni's were all drafted by the same team and played on that team at the same time they would still be a super team no matter if they were all drafted by that team.
@@joel8692 Like that would happen in any reality.
That was JT being tough he soft as baby doodoo😅
He was being sarcastic he's upset no Celtics won any major awards and he didn't get mvp
He right they should be a super team but they are not lol
Super teams are bought not built. Celtics key players are built. Super team examples, heatles, kd kyrie harden nets
What’s a Heatle? Is that like a beatle in heat?
@@ErnieBert-eg8kd lebron, Bosh, wade, look it up
Every team is a super team now lol
The media has been brainwashed us all lol
TATUM STAT PADDED THE END OF THE SEASON TO TRY AND WIN MVP AND NOW THEY’RE NOT A SUPER TEAM BECAUSE OF THAT? OR BECAUSE JOE MAZZULLA INHERITED A SUPER TEAM, HE SHOULD BE COTY?
The Celtucs are 100% a super team. You have Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Jrue Holiday, Derrick white and Porzingis and are very, very good players. Jaylen Brown can even be the best player on the Celtics and Derrick White is averaging 21 points. And remember Porzingis was supposed to be the 3rd guy but he's the 4th guy now. Jrue Holiday was the 2nd option on the Bucks but now he's like the 6th option. Yes, that's a super team.
Jrue holiday is averaging 8ppg on with horrendous true shooting. It’s only the jays and Derick white that have been consistent scorers.
They're absolutely not a Super team. A Super team would indicate you have multiple Superstars on one team.. I would argue the Celtics have none. Jason Tatum is not a Superstar in my opinion.. He's a good player but a little overrated.. The rest of the guys you mentioned are good players, but none are stars other than Jaylen Brown (and he's borderline).
Derrick white??😂😂😂 bru cmon he’s playing great obviously but he’s no superstar player lol
Porzingis and super team should never be used
@@agag2684wym he’s top 5 injury team all time put respect on his name 🤕
JT not him.
Tatum needs to delete Kobe's number
Tatum weak and lame. Man up.
I can’t stand Tatum. Hope we lose the chip and Stevens cans Mazzulla and trades tatums lame ass. Look at what he wears to the games. He looks like he’s going to a 🌈 poetry reading.
To me, a super team is a team that has 3 stars who would be the best player if they each had their own seperate team.
So I agree with Tatum that Boston is not a super team based o by my own definition. BUT I disagree with Tatum's logic that individual awards and accolades like MVP, coach of the year, etc have anything to do with whether or not a team can be considered a "super team" or not.
Awards have zero to do with defining a team as a super team. I can agree with him that Boston isnt a super team, but damn they shouldn't be losing by 20+ at home either. That's the biggest issue I have with Tatum's statement. You aren't a super team but you are talented enough to not get embarrassed by Cleveland. That's crazy to me.
Klay Thompson nor Draymond green would be the best player on their own separate team…carry on tho
That definition is too broad. By your definition Cade Cunningham + Kyle Kuzma + Anfernee Simons would be a super team. The worst teams in the league all have a "best" player.
So Klay Thompson would have led his own team according to your logic?🤔🤔🙄🙆
@@dayvercetti4156 the Celtics aren’t a super team super team has more than two for sure Hall of Famer a.k.a. the Miami Heat when they had LeBron and the Warriors win they had KD that’s for Hall of Famer. Those are super teams. The Celtics are not a super team.
@@whenthemaskfalls8591 a super team means that you have more than two for sure Hall of Famer playing at one time under one collective. The Celtics are not a super team you sound dumb
As a Celtic fan I wish Tatum had half the mindset guys Anthony Edwards, brunson or even Mitchell has. Seems Tatum doesn't have that dog. And I haven't heard any media people calling Celtics a superteam. Plenty have said they SHOULD be the favorites but we need to see it in the big games, not blowing a 2-1 finals lead or going down 0-3 to a #8 seed and then choking in game 7 on your court .
They are definitely a super team, he just doesn't want the heat if he loses without a title. He ain't that guy
He cares way too much about MVPs
I think i saw a rat big as a dog in NY
Tatum making excuses for himself as usual playing the victim.
No they're not. There's no bench. It's 5 guys really. No mvp. Only jure holiday is a champ and he's old now. Couple all stars running round with some guys. This ain't no super team. Ima need the celtics to stop caring and win the chip already. I dont think they will. That bench sucks. The nba champs are coming out the west. Period.
They not a super team
Super team. They choke for the last 6 years. Lolol😂😂
The worst thing he did was called the fans spoilt.
Celtics are not a super team...they have a nicely built team but its only 1 supetstar and thats Tatum...Brown a star the rest are role players who are good but no thats not a super team
It’s debatable whether Tatum is a super star.
The NBA is done!
Their 2 main players are home grown .This aint a super team
Not really “home” they got them in one of the worst trades ever