They said the same shit about Rone. Rone and Pat were best friends. Of course he wasn't gonna DF like he normally would if Pat was still here. Jin was on another level at one point to. That night was about Pat and they all did him justice.
Pat really brought all these legends back on stage 😢 it breaks my heart he ain’t here to see something everyone came together to honor him. RIP Pat Stay 🕊️❤
Let's be fair, guys. Y'all got to remember that Jin has not been a part of the battle/freestyle world for quite some time now. The guy is a full-time family man, as he stated himself. This was also a friendly, last-minute tribute dedicated to Pat Stay, so what more were you all expecting? Cut the guy some slack. Just appreciate the event as a whole, and the dope show that was well put together by Organik and KOTD.
Man Jin is my guy!!! Been following my man since forever, even through his religious and overseas days. This man is a legend. Can’t believe he returned and I didn’t hear anything about it.
Jin not trash he's living a life we're he doesn't want to contradict his religion. You can feel the positive coming from him. He doesn't have that hungry from the slums underdog or hood champ type vibe anymore
What some of y’all younger fans just don’t get is how he was running through emcees, especially when freestyling off the top was the norm. There’s an old Angryfan007 interview (maybe from around ten years ago) where he was interviewing Serius Jones, and they asked him to speak on Jin. The first thing he said was that Jin deserves a lot of credit and was the first to get $100k from battle rap, because remember he won two of those major Fight Klub battles (not the MTV one) and got $50k each, and remember when he won the second one (where he beat Professor Green), he offered to put up $10k to rematch Serius Jones (who was there but had lost to Professor Green) onstage right then and there, but Jones didn’t accept. He did say that the time he battled Jin before getting called out (on the Fight Klub that did end up on MTV), he actually was a little scared to battle Jin, not in a weak way but just in the sense that he knew how witty Jin was and how he could say one thing and just get the crowd to erupt. Obviously Jin’s style is both rusty and just not modern (as he was at his peak damn near 20 years ago), so you can’t expect him to just jump into the ring and just be on point after not really battling (as the Wildin Out stuff is just ehh). Just think of how dated 80s rappers sounded in the 90s.
It’s really sad how these new battle rap fans don’t know when it’s time to judge a battle/battle rapper and when it’s time to appreciate a legendary moment in battle rap. Both of these LEGENDS did this to honor their friend, this shit is incredible. Anyone with a different opinion is a clown.
Mac said yes to this battle then took an 8 ball to the dome. That round is fucking insane. That being said. Jin is God tier. Him coming out in this battle and being able to still hit. Shows he is a legend.
Shout outs to people who get what a tribute/charity event means lol. No ones trying to end anyone’s life here. Class act from both truly honoring Pat. The fact they both showed up and did this was a moment I’ll always be grateful I got a chance to witness live. Blessings
This was awesome to see! I don't care about people who feel some type of way about Jin in the modern era... Dude has been retired for like 20 years that would make anybody rusty... He entertained and did his thing. Also welcome back to the battle rap arena Illmac! Respect and RIP to Pat Stay.
"Bender's face on my arm, yeah this ain't my first ride" still gives me chills. Esp in a culture where nothing lasts more than a couple weeks, for it to be a year after this event and prob a year and a half since Pat's passing, it's really good to see his impact still being felt in battle rap. LLPS
I vividly remember seeing Jin on Freestyle Friday for the 1st time in high school in 02. It's super cool to see him battling in it's current form over 2 decades later.
Jin....a true legend of the game. I have a lot of respect for that dude and the things he achieved. Illmac is of the same vane. Both legends in their own right.
Yo Jin was fire and hilarious, what is the hate for? It's like he never left, man. Shouts to Illmac, extremely dope as usual. Great battle. RIP Pat Stay!
Illmaculate won this battle, but Jin proved he can still get down. Hope this ain't the last of him. He was a dangerous freestyle battler , so hopefully he can show us his pen game.
I’m 39. First time I saw Pat was on KOTD Vs. Arsonal. He got cooked, then for years I was like “they’re just gassing this average dude because Canadians are ridiculously proud of their own.” THEN I saw Pat’s legendary performance against Charron and I was like “okay he’s putting it all together.” By the time he got to Hollow at MASS I thought ‘low would end his career. And Pat held his own and gained hella respect from me. Then I saw him FINALLY battle outside of Canada and face Danny on RBE (ARP said Pat picked Danny, he really liked and respected him) and they gave us an absolute classic. Point is: Pat just kept getting better. It’s a tragedy such a young man with a family lost his life so senselessly. Scratch beneath the surface and it saddens me as a fan but also for Pat that his best days really were ahead of him.
Crazy to think how many people in the crowd and watching on RUclips don't have any clue who Jin is. I remember when he battled Iron Solomon and that was pretty much when battle rap went from mostly freestyle (Jin) to written (Iron).
Watching this back, Illmac's section, the Pat impression where he did about Jin's manhood, I just noticed he even had a Pat mannerism where he flicked his head. That was spot on Pat. I just caught that.
Such a legendary moment in battle rap, I don't like the disrespect coming towards jin in the comments, he is from the old school era where freestyling was the thing and obviously he is rusty dude as been gone for years he's a legend and should be respected as such and for what it is this was a great performance by both.
Yall really don't realize the impact Jin has had on battle rap. Go look up Jin vs Shells, Verse, Iron Solomon, Serious Jones, etc... not to mention his legendary 106 & Park freestyle win streak. Respect to both legends 🔥
Saw this after Hollow & Charon but gotta comment for the algorithm. Salute to KOTD for putting on an incredible celebration of a legend! RIP Sucka Free 🔥
“It was like Pat made a time machine for us and said, "Here, take these Grindtime matchups from a parallel universe I got access to, have a good night..” -hustlecrowe845
I think Jin had some very fire bars and showed star power qualities at moments. If he was to battle again he would definitely need to work on his delivery but watching this unfold live was beyond words and so nostalgic to long time battle rap fans.
Respect I really respect what they did for the culture, illmac put passion in it, and jin showed up without even doing it for battle rap but the people who made it what it was and when you put that into perspective it was deep and powerful the culture needed this.
@@dr.mantistoboggan4746 exactlyyyyyyyy...Saurus was amazing... might watch that iron solomon vs saurus again just for the vibes "your like Rick moranis from ghost busters with a fatter bone structure"
Jin sounds like he teleported from 2009 grindtime to here. Yeah it's a little old fashioned with the material, but you can still appreciate he was one of the best of his time, and that he could still hang in that Era. Great match
If I were to perform at my dead friend's memorial event I wouldn't come with trash bars... I'd try to write the best I ever have to honor him, his family, and his legacy. I feel like every battler in this event just wrote their shit in 10 mins and half-assed it. I was extremely disappointed in every battle I've seen so far. And this isn't KOTD's fault. The battlers here just fell flat HARD. I can tell everyone of em except Hallohan and Illmac put almost no effort into it. Hallohan gave his all. Illmac put effort into it and was light-hearted. The rest that I've seen so far... Not a good look. I feel like everyone saying "this event is gonna be hard to top!!" are coping since this should have been a heart-felt event, but it wasn't. I know everyone knows in their hearts this shit fell flat. It's sad for KOTD. The fact that they did this for Pat is beautiful and dope. I wish the battlers would have actually tried. It's possible to be light-hearted, have fun, and also not bring trash bars.
@@austinl5158 Bro...It was literally last minute for these two.. Settle down... Edit: Jin has been out of the game for a long long time...He's gettin some rust off..Dusting some cobwebs off...trying to find his groove again. He's doing a hell of a lot better than most people.
Mad props to both of these legends. Secondly, this sure was a good battle, and what are the odds we all see Jin return for another battle? Only time will tell. Aside from that, both Jin & Illmac showcased the bars, here. Respect.
“Who knew it’d be a surprise battle that put his life in Jeopardy? - and You know (immuno)-compromising your destiny / I’m unaffected by the Path-o-Jin (pathogen) but HE GOT iLL (Mac) and died Unexpectedly!” 💪🏽💯🔥
@@docwash3921 I'm unaffected by the path of Jin? Immuno / and you know? Reaches all around. And that has nothing to do with Covid origins. It's just a disease scheme.
Man I did an interview recap with MC JIN on my channel & we talked about finding a niche, faith, success, & ofc Hip-Hop. Glad MC Jin did this cuz this was 100% worth it. RIP Pat & Long live Hip Hop!!!! Bless y’all!! Plus Soul Khan there was dope!!!
Illmac is my favorite of all-time! illest flow, good mix of humor, personals, angles, punchlines & where he surpasses everyone else is how he paints a picture with his words$
Jin came back to just give respect to Stay. One of the last real "freestyle" battlers. Good to see him on stage again.
Jin is a legend, anyone here bashing the dude doesn’t understand how big this moment really is.
People that bash others are losers.
Just some legends having some fun with no actual preparation. It's nice to see the og's battle it out again
So what if he's a legend. He still sucked balls in this battle. stop d ridin, bro.
Really??? I feel like I need to learn Chinese listening to this guy.
Everyone saying Jin is trash is clearly in their 20’s lol. Ya definitely do not understand the impact this man has on the battle rap community.
Jin has his own Delivery style.
Them freestyles always sharp.
Jin ran the freestyle on mtv every Friday
Cassidy smoked his boots on the basement and battle rap chill out bruv jin prolly still cant beat serious jones😂
They said the same shit about Rone. Rone and Pat were best friends. Of course he wasn't gonna DF like he normally would if Pat was still here. Jin was on another level at one point to. That night was about Pat and they all did him justice.
Ima old head raised on prime Jin…This ain’t prime Jin.
Pat really brought all these legends back on stage 😢 it breaks my heart he ain’t here to see something everyone came together to honor him. RIP Pat Stay 🕊️❤
He would have been the first to say the battles were trash and gay lol
Much love to the Notification Ganggg 🔔
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Let's be fair, guys. Y'all got to remember that Jin has not been a part of the battle/freestyle world for quite some time now. The guy is a full-time family man, as he stated himself.
This was also a friendly, last-minute tribute dedicated to Pat Stay, so what more were you all expecting? Cut the guy some slack.
Just appreciate the event as a whole, and the dope show that was well put together by Organik and KOTD.
Man Jin is my guy!!! Been following my man since forever, even through his religious and overseas days. This man is a legend. Can’t believe he returned and I didn’t hear anything about it.
Jin not trash he's living a life we're he doesn't want to contradict his religion. You can feel the positive coming from him. He doesn't have that hungry from the slums underdog or hood champ type vibe anymore
Jin is a legend, supported this guy since Jumpoff TV
Bro Jin looking out for illmacs mic then hyping the crowd to keep the energy what a professional
The power of Pat Stay brought Jin back, brought Dumb back, brought Hollohan back, and brought BATTLE RAP CHRIS back.
Legend versus legend in honor of a legend. This is what battle rap is, baby. RIP Patrick. 🤟❤️
What some of y’all younger fans just don’t get is how he was running through emcees, especially when freestyling off the top was the norm. There’s an old Angryfan007 interview (maybe from around ten years ago) where he was interviewing Serius Jones, and they asked him to speak on Jin. The first thing he said was that Jin deserves a lot of credit and was the first to get $100k from battle rap, because remember he won two of those major Fight Klub battles (not the MTV one) and got $50k each, and remember when he won the second one (where he beat Professor Green), he offered to put up $10k to rematch Serius Jones (who was there but had lost to Professor Green) onstage right then and there, but Jones didn’t accept. He did say that the time he battled Jin before getting called out (on the Fight Klub that did end up on MTV), he actually was a little scared to battle Jin, not in a weak way but just in the sense that he knew how witty Jin was and how he could say one thing and just get the crowd to erupt.
Obviously Jin’s style is both rusty and just not modern (as he was at his peak damn near 20 years ago), so you can’t expect him to just jump into the ring and just be on point after not really battling (as the Wildin Out stuff is just ehh). Just think of how dated 80s rappers sounded in the 90s.
It’s really sad how these new battle rap fans don’t know when it’s time to judge a battle/battle rapper and when it’s time to appreciate a legendary moment in battle rap. Both of these LEGENDS did this to honor their friend, this shit is incredible. Anyone with a different opinion is a clown.
Much love!!! This event is definitely a hell of a good tribute to our man. RIP Pat Stay sucka free boss
You gotta be of a certain age to appreciate Jin coming back. This is peak nostalgia! R.I.P. Pat, everyone did a beautiful job.
That Jin slanted eye bar at the start was 🔥 The way he delivered gave flashbacks of his old battles
Yupppppp
I would’ve never thought to see Jin back on stage. This was an amazing surprise. Shout out to both the legends.
🔥🔥🔥🔥👀👀👀
Mac said yes to this battle then took an 8 ball to the dome.
That round is fucking insane.
That being said. Jin is God tier. Him coming out in this battle and being able to still hit. Shows he is a legend.
Yeeesss!! Loved it since the PPV, its going to be fun to see it in better quality!
Shout outs to people who get what a tribute/charity event means lol. No ones trying to end anyone’s life here. Class act from both truly honoring Pat. The fact they both showed up and did this was a moment I’ll always be grateful I got a chance to witness live. Blessings
Jin too polite now to battle Rap
This was awesome to see! I don't care about people who feel some type of way about Jin in the modern era... Dude has been retired for like 20 years that would make anybody rusty... He entertained and did his thing. Also welcome back to the battle rap arena Illmac!
Respect and RIP to Pat Stay.
There will never be another MC JIN! No one can flow in English, Cantonese and mandarin! Straight 🔥🔥🔥
🙏🏻 2023
Jin the whole reason why I got into battle rap in the 00s, this warms my soul
The set up alone made me hit the like button. Icons right here from back in the days.
The difference between KOD and any other platform is that you can feel the love and fun vs trying to being harder than it has to be.
We need to get Jin back at all cost! Not for some post reunion but for an actual rap battle.
"Bender's face on my arm, yeah this ain't my first ride" still gives me chills. Esp in a culture where nothing lasts more than a couple weeks, for it to be a year after this event and prob a year and a half since Pat's passing, it's really good to see his impact still being felt in battle rap. LLPS
A part of me wish that Jin would show up like that time Jin vs verse on smack dvd. I Never forget that battle 😅
Jin is a pioneer of battle rap since jumpoff and 106 & park. Legend
I vividly remember seeing Jin on Freestyle Friday for the 1st time in high school in 02. It's super cool to see him battling in it's current form over 2 decades later.
2 legends! Jin left the scene years ago to follow Christ. Just all good vibes. Good to see one of the original battle goats.
Jin....a true legend of the game. I have a lot of respect for that dude and the things he achieved. Illmac is of the same vane. Both legends in their own right.
Yo Jin was fire and hilarious, what is the hate for? It's like he never left, man.
Shouts to Illmac, extremely dope as usual. Great battle. RIP Pat Stay!
I'm geeking out!
I grew up on the late grind time era, this is so dope i can't really believe it happened😢
I had the biggest grin when this happened, i couldn't stop smiling and loving every moment. It was legendary.
Prepared for a crooked eye?! Die by a slanted one?!?! Illmac and jin is fuckin historic
Bro this whole thing was ass you haven't gotta lie cos they legends nothing hit
Illmaculate won this battle, but Jin proved he can still get down. Hope this ain't the last of him. He was a dangerous freestyle battler , so hopefully he can show us his pen game.
This was the best so far, especially with Illmac basically doing a classic Pat approach in his memory.
I'm almost 34 and I ABsolutelyyyyy love this throwback, nostalgic shit.. real hiphop for life
I’m 39. First time I saw Pat was on KOTD Vs. Arsonal. He got cooked, then for years I was like “they’re just gassing this average dude because Canadians are ridiculously proud of their own.” THEN I saw Pat’s legendary performance against Charron and I was like “okay he’s putting it all together.” By the time he got to Hollow at MASS I thought ‘low would end his career. And Pat held his own and gained hella respect from me. Then I saw him FINALLY battle outside of Canada and face Danny on RBE (ARP said Pat picked Danny, he really liked and respected him) and they gave us an absolute classic.
Point is: Pat just kept getting better. It’s a tragedy such a young man with a family lost his life so senselessly. Scratch beneath the surface and it saddens me as a fan but also for Pat that his best days really were ahead of him.
Holy fuck. Ive been out for a minute. I didn't know Pat stay passed.
yeah man :( grew up watching him. couldn't believe it.
JIN is where BATTLERAP/FREESTYLES all started for me... HOLLA-FRONT! (Let's immortalize Pat and make him the KOTD Logo)
Damn holla-front. You def was around if you know that. 👏
RIP Pat, thanks for doing this KotD
Crazy to think how many people in the crowd and watching on RUclips don't have any clue who Jin is. I remember when he battled Iron Solomon and that was pretty much when battle rap went from mostly freestyle (Jin) to written (Iron).
Either it's a lot of youngn's or a lot of casuals.
You must not know who's Murda Mook and Serious Jones .. do ur homework kiddo.
@@JorgeAceituno-vs3jt who are you replying to? Lol
@@nezzarkid obviously not u ..
So mind ur businesses kid.
Watching this back, Illmac's section, the Pat impression where he did about Jin's manhood, I just noticed he even had a Pat mannerism where he flicked his head. That was spot on Pat. I just caught that.
Such a legendary moment in battle rap, I don't like the disrespect coming towards jin in the comments, he is from the old school era where freestyling was the thing and obviously he is rusty dude as been gone for years he's a legend and should be respected as such and for what it is this was a great performance by both.
Just ignore the haters, all the casuals are coming out now.
Yall really don't realize the impact Jin has had on battle rap. Go look up Jin vs Shells, Verse, Iron Solomon, Serious Jones, etc... not to mention his legendary 106 & Park freestyle win streak. Respect to both legends 🔥
Saw this after Hollow & Charon but gotta comment for the algorithm. Salute to KOTD for putting on an incredible celebration of a legend!
RIP Sucka Free 🔥
Mad respect for these two. It’s hard being battle rapper and a Christian. Good job Jin. Welcome back and you will get better as you do it.
“It was like Pat made a time machine for us and said, "Here, take these Grindtime matchups from a parallel universe I got access to, have a good night..” -hustlecrowe845
Jin went back to help the Chinese Rap industry grow fr.
I started listening to Chinese rap in 2017 cos of him
That's cool bro. Have you listened to 頑童MJ116. They are my favourite Chinese rappers😁
@@teddychen803 Yeah, Taiwanese OG rap band! I'm a big fan of MC HOTDOG! Boombap fan here
Rip Pat Stay. Shout out KOTD for putting on one of the greatest recent events!
Love this energy from both grew up watching them slay, RIP Pat Stay
I did an essay on Jin in high school now my high school has a battle rap group
I think Jin had some very fire bars and showed star power qualities at moments. If he was to battle again he would definitely need to work on his delivery but watching this unfold live was beyond words and so nostalgic to long time battle rap fans.
This even was fuckin great, man. Every battle was so fun. Great energy
Jim will ALWAYS be a legend.
who's Jim?
You prepared for crooked i but you about to die by a slanted one....
BARS
Thank you Jin and Illmac for coming out and doing this in Pats memory. Yall did yall fucking THING!
Jin is a reborn christian, he doesn't rap like he used to
Jin did so amazing after like 15 years...legend
Respect I really respect what they did for the culture, illmac put passion in it, and jin showed up without even doing it for battle rap but the people who made it what it was and when you put that into perspective it was deep and powerful the culture needed this.
“I got so much Juice I could bring Jin back” would’ve been a way harder line
I saw Jin and clicked. What a surprise for the audience?!
damn ive been wanting a new illmac battle too, lets go
edit: they both killed it too, what a fun battle
Illmac is top 10 battle rappers of all time...I remember watching him on demand on grind time battles all the way up to now
Illmac vs Thesaurus like we in highschool again
@@dr.mantistoboggan4746 exactlyyyyyyyy...Saurus was amazing... might watch that iron solomon vs saurus again just for the vibes "your like Rick moranis from ghost busters with a fatter bone structure"
@@ELEXANDERTHEGREAT watch Thesaurus vs Jonny Storm too, got your varsity jacket for picking lettuce and cabbage or some shit, in triple time too
Yooo I loved seeing Jin up there, KOTD yall brought the unexpected 🔥🔥🔥
Jin sounds like he teleported from 2009 grindtime to here. Yeah it's a little old fashioned with the material, but you can still appreciate he was one of the best of his time, and that he could still hang in that Era. Great match
Dude was superactive in 2001 bro. 2009 would be a praise.
I wonder how many people got the Jin and Juice line. Thats some og battle era reference.
Not really lol.
juice dont get enough love frfr
3:02 Hollow behind Mac after Jin bar: "Compose yourself on this side, you gotta compose yourself.... that was crazy tho" lol
Ya'll buggin.
These guys aint here to battle frfr... just having fun & paying tribute to Pat.
If I were to perform at my dead friend's memorial event I wouldn't come with trash bars... I'd try to write the best I ever have to honor him, his family, and his legacy. I feel like every battler in this event just wrote their shit in 10 mins and half-assed it.
I was extremely disappointed in every battle I've seen so far. And this isn't KOTD's fault. The battlers here just fell flat HARD. I can tell everyone of em except Hallohan and Illmac put almost no effort into it.
Hallohan gave his all. Illmac put effort into it and was light-hearted. The rest that I've seen so far... Not a good look. I feel like everyone saying "this event is gonna be hard to top!!" are coping since this should have been a heart-felt event, but it wasn't. I know everyone knows in their hearts this shit fell flat. It's sad for KOTD. The fact that they did this for Pat is beautiful and dope. I wish the battlers would have actually tried. It's possible to be light-hearted, have fun, and also not bring trash bars.
@@austinl5158 Bro...It was literally last minute for these two..
Settle down...
Edit: Jin has been out of the game for a long long time...He's gettin some rust off..Dusting some cobwebs off...trying to find his groove again.
He's doing a hell of a lot better than most people.
@@dawgyo last minute as of when? When did they find out they would be battling?
@@austinl5158 Mac said it at the end...........You didnt even watch it all the way through, lmao casual.
@@dawgyo I've seen it twice. How long did they have to prepare?
Jin is a straight legend. Great battle. 🔥
MAD respect for keeping Jin in the culture. This why KOTD the realest
Mad props to both of these legends. Secondly, this sure was a good battle, and what are the odds we all see Jin return for another battle? Only time will tell. Aside from that, both Jin & Illmac showcased the bars, here. Respect.
Hollow thinking about the finished product on cam “you gotta control yourself on this side, that was crazy though” made the bar a little more 🔥
If you watch the battle, stay for the interviews at the end…really dope!
Jin is a legend he just hasn't battled in years so of course he's gonna have ring rust.
Respect JIN 🫡🔥 they were both dope! 🫡🫡
I wasn’t fuckin win Jin’s flow at first, but I get it now 😅
I remember Jin on 106 n Park, and in The Basement with Big Tigger
R.I.P. PAT STAY
This made me happy. I'm glad y'all gave respect to Jin, he will always be a battle legend
Da crowd was hating on Jin my boy was gassing ⛽️🔥🦾
A LOT of people have been Waiting for
MC JIN
to come BACK !!!
That was amazing ty KOTD
Was great to see Jin in this environment 🔥🔥🔥
Mac clearly won but Jin did pretty good for a first battle back.
That camera angle makes illmaculate a bit shorter than he actually is lol
Hi Greg
I thought Jin would be the shortest one there.
So nostalgic. Much love Jin and Illmac
What a dope surprise , it was for pat rest easy
That crooked eye bar was insane
“Who knew it’d be a surprise battle that put his life in Jeopardy? - and You know (immuno)-compromising your destiny / I’m unaffected by the Path-o-Jin (pathogen) but HE GOT iLL (Mac) and died Unexpectedly!” 💪🏽💯🔥
Is there an emoji for reach too?
@@itsmano22 - no reach… it was a jab at COVID origin
@@docwash3921 I'm unaffected by the path of Jin? Immuno / and you know? Reaches all around.
And that has nothing to do with Covid origins. It's just a disease scheme.
Wow this actually went down 👀. I remember when Ill called Jin out during early Grind Time era 🔥🔥.
How TF does this only have 32K views?
I bet it's because they left it at the end of the Charron and Hollow battle.
I love it they are just old mates that haven't seen eachother for awhile but spit such venemous bars that are unreal.
Shouts to Jin, KOTD and Illmac!!
Just for the moment this is great. Two legends, illmac is still a killer right now though.
BACK IN THE DAY THIS GET A MILLION VIEWS
"You prepared for a crooked eye, but you bout to do to a slanted one..." Y'all hating cuz that was fire...
Man I did an interview recap with MC JIN on my channel & we talked about finding a niche, faith, success, & ofc Hip-Hop. Glad MC Jin did this cuz this was 100% worth it. RIP Pat & Long live Hip Hop!!!! Bless y’all!! Plus Soul Khan there was dope!!!
Illmac is my favorite of all-time! illest flow, good mix of humor, personals, angles, punchlines & where he surpasses everyone else is how he paints a picture with his words$