The only issues of the m8 is not having another battery to shot with. What a joy this tool is and what fun it is to use. Lovely to see a new video and more images from you. Your images are beautiful. Cheers.
I bought the M8.2 with only a couple of thousand actuations and it came today. I sold my Nikon Z9 to get this. I've had other Leicas...Q2, M10-R, Q3 43, and there is a weird joy to shoot with the M8.2 that I can't explain. The limitations of it give it a look, a personality that is really interesting and different, I'm loving the images. I don't mind the imperfections. After chasing perfect images for many years, I love the quirkiness. Thanks for your channel!
Hi John, thanks for your comment. I totally understand you, this camera is outstanding... I remember when I bought mine, 10 years ago. From the beginning it was clear to me that this camera is unique. M9 was the one to have, and nobody cares about the m8. Now is taking the place it deserve. Enjoy yours!!
Hola hermano, I can confirm, being an owner of a very prominent Leica M9 since 2013 ( previously owned by a prominent Leica photographer and well known musician) that these lines also appear in the M9. I took it to Leica Los Angeles in 2014/2015 to have it fixed. They subsequently replaced the sensor at the time, due to it having the usual sensor corrosion issue, however the hot pixel lines (2 of them, JUST like yours) still remained. It was harder to detect at low isos, however remained there regardless. Before any one comments, it was sent to New Jersey, then Wetzlar. I then took it to Wetzlar again that December and they acknowledged it was a known issue across both M8/M9 sensors. By the way, my partners father worked in the projector department at Wetzlar / Solms, so we have a very Deep Relationship with Leica, as well as using their cameras commercially. Viel Glück mi amigo
if the lines remain in exactly the same place, ... then Leica just replaced the light blue Schott UVIR senor filter ( not the sensor ) Kolarivision is doing the same. Leica also had no idea what they were doing in terms of cleaning the filter in the M9 they also did not care to look into the Kodak 14n and DSLR/N or C disaster which had exactly the SAME PROBLEM ( I have 5 bodies in my camera trash pile ). They were just pushing sales due to Blackwater ( their US hedgefund backers ) to save the company .... just remember that at the base of wealth is always a crime ( that is why I no longer shoot Leica M after 36 years I can no longer feel proud of this company even or especially as a German ) P.S. the M11 has a BSI sensor = SONY
Hola hermano. What an interesting post! And what an interesting M9 you have. I read that with software is possible to hide this pixels, and that's the way usually companies do. But I have no personal experience on that. I will stay with my lines, as a watermark or identification sign 😉 Being your father a part of Leica, your story with the brand is deep. Lucky you! Hope to here more from your experience. And thanks for the comment!
Hello again Hugo, I hope you are well. Another very enjoyable, relaxing video with some lovely photos shown during it. I love your attitude to this issue, and you have demonstrated that it really isn’t something to get unduly worried about. Just go out and take photos! I don’t have an M8, but I do have an M9 (an M-E actually), and just love these ccd sensors. Best wishes for the festive season. Robin.
I did my own video on this topic when I got my M8 and I think when an M8 hasn’t been used regularly these dead pixels can happen. When I reached out to Leica Germany they said: „Each image sensor has a certain number of defective pixels (light or dark). These are already determined individually during production, stored in the camera and automatically “masked out” when the photo is taken. However, if the defects only appear after production, for example due to other external influences such as high temperatures, cosmic radiation or long exposure times, they can become disturbing. In this case, we use specially developed software to eliminate the fissure defects.“ That being said luckily if the dead pixels annoys you Leica will do the software repair and the cost is around 200€, which is in my opinion alright. Unfortunately the repair time is quite long, but I excited to get my M8 back when the repair has been done. Your video got me excited about my M8 again, great job! :)
Hi my friend! Im glad you write. I saw your video, and it was very insightful, and it helped me to do mine. In fact, that's why I said that one of my two M8´s, the one with no lines, is always on. I heard the idea from you. Your video is the most interesting one about this subject I could find. Thanks for doing it. I hope you get back your camera soon!
@@myleicam8546 Thank you very much for your kind words and checking my video! :) I'm still waiting for mine. I asked Leica customer service for an update, but they didn't reply back yet before the holidays. Hope I will get it back early 2025 to shoot it again and also make some videos about it :) Thanks again and happy new year my friend! :)
@@IntrovertAmateur My pleasure. You did a great work, a very interesting video, done with stile ;-) I like how you communicate. Looking forward to the next ones. Happy new year!!
All sensors are prone to this. Most modern cameras allow pixel remap by the user (at least my Olympus does) in the menu. To remap pixels on M8,M9 it needs to be send to Leica to do it. If you print your work those lines would be visible on the final print.
Hi my friend! The Elmarit 28 is great. I hear that it was developed for the M8. May be. The fact is that this lens are very good. Sharp, small, light. It fits the camera perfectly. I have no experience with this particular Voigtlander 28/2, but my 21 and 35 are incredible. And for a much better price.
Muy buenas, después de ver varios vídeos tuyos y escuchar tus pensamientos, solo me veo en la obligación de decirte que ese amor que tienes por una Leica solo se verá completo cuando tengas una analogica. Actualmente poseo una M4p y una M2, solo puedo hablar maravillas de ellas. Me sorprende ver que no tengas ninguna analogica y si un par de M8 que a fin de cuentas es la misma aun siendo con colores diferentes. Te invito a que uses una analogica ya que bajo mi humilde opinión hasta que no dispares un carrete no vas a describir el potencial de una Leica. Un abrazo.
Hola Rafa. Lo que me faltaba, que me tentaras así con una cámara que llevo tiempo siguiendo. Tengo un amigo que de vez en cuando viene a visitarme y salimos a fotografiar juntos. El dispara con dos laicas m de carrete, y cuando las cojo y juego con ellas, me encantan. He disparado carrete con otras cámaras, tengo una Yashica 35 y una Minolta. Me encanta el resultado, pero la experiencia de la camara en las manos y de ver por ese visor no es la misma. Un abrazo.
Thank you. I read the comments you did to other comments in the video. And I appreciate all your knowledge about the subject and the brand. You look very disappointed with it. After reading them I was searching for the relationship between blackwater and Leica, and I culdn´t find anything. Seams two very different companies. Is very intriguing.
I was given an old digital camera by Olympus! CCD! Special card from Olympus! It has a feature to mend,delete,correct pixels that are faulty! I;ve use it once! 3 pixels.. Enjoy! Battery might be a problem. I wouldn't buy one, too costly! Colors are lovely.Kodachrome color! Yes sometimes wrong! Enjoy!
thanks for your comment. Is amazing. That the camera includes this option is mind-blowing. And a sign of how common the problem is. Olympus ccd sounds excellent. Enjoy it!!
The only issues of the m8 is not having another battery to shot with. What a joy this tool is and what fun it is to use. Lovely to see a new video and more images from you. Your images are beautiful. Cheers.
Leica = has become a very unreLeiable company ( because of Blackwater it's US hedgefond backer )
Completely agreed. Is a joy. This kind of objects who is nice to have around. And also take quality pictures!
I was able to purchase a couple of additional batteries, no problem.
I bought the M8.2 with only a couple of thousand actuations and it came today. I sold my Nikon Z9 to get this. I've had other Leicas...Q2, M10-R, Q3 43, and there is a weird joy to shoot with the M8.2 that I can't explain. The limitations of it give it a look, a personality that is really interesting and different, I'm loving the images. I don't mind the imperfections. After chasing perfect images for many years, I love the quirkiness. Thanks for your channel!
Hi John, thanks for your comment. I totally understand you, this camera is outstanding... I remember when I bought mine, 10 years ago. From the beginning it was clear to me that this camera is unique. M9 was the one to have, and nobody cares about the m8. Now is taking the place it deserve. Enjoy yours!!
Good to see you again 🙂
Thanks!
Hola hermano, I can confirm, being an owner of a very prominent Leica M9 since 2013 ( previously owned by a prominent Leica photographer and well known musician) that these lines also appear in the M9.
I took it to Leica Los Angeles in 2014/2015 to have it fixed. They subsequently replaced the sensor at the time, due to it having the usual sensor corrosion issue, however the hot pixel lines (2 of them, JUST like yours) still remained.
It was harder to detect at low isos, however remained there regardless.
Before any one comments, it was sent to New Jersey, then Wetzlar.
I then took it to Wetzlar again that December and they acknowledged it was a known issue across both M8/M9 sensors. By the way, my partners father worked in the projector department at Wetzlar / Solms, so we have a very Deep Relationship with Leica, as well as using their cameras commercially.
Viel Glück mi amigo
if the lines remain in exactly the same place, ... then Leica just replaced the light blue Schott UVIR senor filter ( not the sensor ) Kolarivision is doing the same. Leica also had no idea what they were doing in terms of cleaning the filter in the M9 they also did not care to look into the Kodak 14n and DSLR/N or C disaster which had exactly the SAME PROBLEM ( I have 5 bodies in my camera trash pile ). They were just pushing sales due to Blackwater ( their US hedgefund backers ) to save the company .... just remember that at the base of wealth is always a crime ( that is why I no longer shoot Leica M after 36 years I can no longer feel proud of this company even or especially as a German ) P.S. the M11 has a BSI sensor = SONY
Hola hermano. What an interesting post! And what an interesting M9 you have. I read that with software is possible to hide this pixels, and that's the way usually companies do. But I have no personal experience on that. I will stay with my lines, as a watermark or identification sign 😉
Being your father a part of Leica, your story with the brand is deep. Lucky you! Hope to here more from your experience. And thanks for the comment!
Hello again Hugo, I hope you are well. Another very enjoyable, relaxing video with some lovely photos shown during it. I love your attitude to this issue, and you have demonstrated that it really isn’t something to get unduly worried about. Just go out and take photos! I don’t have an M8, but I do have an M9 (an M-E actually), and just love these ccd sensors. Best wishes for the festive season. Robin.
Thank you my friend, Im glad you like the video. Enjoy your M9, what a joy!
Great to see you!
The pictures are great. Nice composition and context.
On Film is usually more dust than that little line 😂
Take care.
Hi Philip! Great to hear from you! Yes, film is another story, you know it very well 😉
I had an m8.2 and was one of my favourite cameras. It had a similair line but it did not bother me one bit
Hi. Thanks for your comment. Yes, is like white hair. Who cares! 😉
I did my own video on this topic when I got my M8 and I think when an M8 hasn’t been used regularly these dead pixels can happen. When I reached out to Leica Germany they said:
„Each image sensor has a certain number of defective pixels (light or dark). These are already determined individually during production, stored in the camera and automatically “masked out” when the photo is taken.
However, if the defects only appear after production, for example due to other external influences such as high temperatures, cosmic radiation or long exposure times, they can become disturbing. In this case, we use specially developed software to eliminate the fissure defects.“
That being said luckily if the dead pixels annoys you Leica will do the software repair and the cost is around 200€, which is in my opinion alright. Unfortunately the repair time is quite long, but I excited to get my M8 back when the repair has been done.
Your video got me excited about my M8 again, great job! :)
thank you for the info ... what batteries are you buying these days ?
@ when I bought mine used, it has 4 OG Leica batteries, which are still working so I haven’t checkt third party batteries yet
Hi my friend! Im glad you write. I saw your video, and it was very insightful, and it helped me to do mine. In fact, that's why I said that one of my two M8´s, the one with no lines, is always on. I heard the idea from you. Your video is the most interesting one about this subject I could find. Thanks for doing it. I hope you get back your camera soon!
@@myleicam8546 Thank you very much for your kind words and checking my video! :)
I'm still waiting for mine. I asked Leica customer service for an update, but they didn't reply back yet before the holidays.
Hope I will get it back early 2025 to shoot it again and also make some videos about it :)
Thanks again and happy new year my friend! :)
@@IntrovertAmateur My pleasure. You did a great work, a very interesting video, done with stile ;-) I like how you communicate. Looking forward to the next ones. Happy new year!!
Such great color rendition with the M8s! It's very easy to forgive small signs of age. I'm also currently looking for a nice one.
I hope you find a good example. At a good price. Thanks for your comment.
@ I have enough time to find my perfect one. It will be my second digital M 🤗
All sensors are prone to this. Most modern cameras allow pixel remap by the user (at least my Olympus does) in the menu. To remap pixels on M8,M9 it needs to be send to Leica to do it. If you print your work those lines would be visible on the final print.
Mine had and fixed! Olympus! 2003?
like arsenic in a lab test :)
Hi, thanks for the comment! Very interesting. I read that is a common issue. But having a pixel remap in the menu (Olympus)... is amazing.
I have the same issue on my M8. It has not stopped me from using it. My only issue is not finding a reliable backup battery.
I use eBay to find good OEM batteries. The other option is Cameron Sino (Chineese made, 3d party) which are not too bad
Hi, thanks for comment. I have a few batteries, but the not original tend to last less.
Of my two M8s one has it, but you can only see it if you underexpose a lot.
Interesting. Thanks. It seems that mostly show the face (lines) in some extreme situations.
If you send it into Leica they will fix it! Dead pixels usually show at higher iso or when shooting at night.
Thanks for your comment. Is good to know that Leica may fix it. By the other hand, I´m starting to like those lines, they are like a watermark...😉
Hugo i see you have Elmarit how do you like itt? There is alson cheaoer Voigtländer 28/2 but im tempted on that Elmarit ( but its more expensive)
Hi my friend! The Elmarit 28 is great. I hear that it was developed for the M8. May be. The fact is that this lens are very good. Sharp, small, light. It fits the camera perfectly. I have no experience with this particular Voigtlander 28/2, but my 21 and 35 are incredible. And for a much better price.
I don´t have dead pixels on my M8 😊Great Camera 👌
Great news! One more reason to enjoy it! 😊
Muy buenas, después de ver varios vídeos tuyos y escuchar tus pensamientos, solo me veo en la obligación de decirte que ese amor que tienes por una Leica solo se verá completo cuando tengas una analogica. Actualmente poseo una M4p y una M2, solo puedo hablar maravillas de ellas. Me sorprende ver que no tengas ninguna analogica y si un par de M8 que a fin de cuentas es la misma aun siendo con colores diferentes. Te invito a que uses una analogica ya que bajo mi humilde opinión hasta que no dispares un carrete no vas a describir el potencial de una Leica.
Un abrazo.
Hola Rafa. Lo que me faltaba, que me tentaras así con una cámara que llevo tiempo siguiendo. Tengo un amigo que de vez en cuando viene a visitarme y salimos a fotografiar juntos. El dispara con dos laicas m de carrete, y cuando las cojo y juego con ellas, me encantan. He disparado carrete con otras cámaras, tengo una Yashica 35 y una Minolta. Me encanta el resultado, pero la experiencia de la camara en las manos y de ver por ese visor no es la misma. Un abrazo.
if anybody, then you resemble the spirit of M photography
Thank you. I read the comments you did to other comments in the video. And I appreciate all your knowledge about the subject and the brand. You look very disappointed with it. After reading them I was searching for the relationship between blackwater and Leica, and I culdn´t find anything. Seams two very different companies. Is very intriguing.
I was given an old digital camera by Olympus! CCD! Special card from Olympus! It has a feature to mend,delete,correct pixels that are faulty! I;ve use it once! 3 pixels.. Enjoy! Battery might be a problem. I wouldn't buy one, too costly! Colors are lovely.Kodachrome color! Yes sometimes wrong! Enjoy!
thanks for your comment. Is amazing. That the camera includes this option is mind-blowing. And a sign of how common the problem is. Olympus ccd sounds excellent. Enjoy it!!