Dr. Liar, Creationist As(s)trophysicist, Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2017
- The first part in a series addressing a talk given by Dr. Jason Lisle, creationist astrophysicist. You can find the talk here: • Video
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Slight errata: I over-generalized when I said that everyone was a creationist pre-Darwin. There were statistical outliers, such as deists. Also note that "creationist" does not have to mean "young earth creationist."
I've got Michael Shermer's book, "Skeptic", I love his, "So wrong it's not even wrong." LOL
It might have been in his "Why Darwin Matters" that he named all the different flavors of creationism. It's like 20. If you had to teach all of those, you couldn't get around to any science at all.
Lisle, it doesn't sound Jewish. Afraid, no matter how much he lies, he's not getting into heaven, Rev 4: 4-8 only 144,000 Jewish men are getting into heaven, IF they haven't had anything to with icky women. Oh, & they can't be homosexuals either. Because god wants to be their first.
Revelation Rev 14: 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.
Martymer 81 sorry but you made another mistake. the Bible isn't a product of the bronze age, it's iron age and later.
We Deists look at The Universe through the eyes of Science. God created everything exactly as Science says and will say when our Scientific knowledge increases. Although I don't doubt for a second that the founding fathers (who were mostly deists) had a more christian-like view on how everything was created, because they were brought up as christians.
. . . but that was only one mistake, and you brooked the manifold hue "errata", mistakes. Looks like another "erratum"!
+Kleo3392
From dictionary.com:
_Errata is originally the plural of the singular Latin noun erratum. Like many such borrowed nouns (agenda; candelabra), it came by the mid-17th century to be used as a singular noun, meaning “a list of errors or corrections to be made (in a book).” Despite objections by some to this singular use, it is common in standard English: The errata begins on page 237.When errata clearly means “errors,” it takes plural verbs and pronouns: Although errata were frequent in the first printing, most of them were corrected in subsequent printings. As a singular noun, errata has developed an English plural form erratas, which is rarely used._
So _errata_ is correct.
The sky is blue because, if it was green, we wouldn't know where to stop mowing.
I thought you died after your visit on Tosh.0
Are you still making star wars stuff?
I thought we stopped mowing when we hit pavement or dirt or trees and so on
*_I thought you died after your visit on Tosh.0_*
"Died"...? Whyever would you think that?
*_Are you still making star wars stuff?_*
I have two or three animation projects in the works; one of them is based on Star Wars.
*_I thought we stopped mowing when we hit pavement or dirt or trees and so on_*
I was kidding.
And also quoting an episode of "Night Court".
Creationism is not a dead horse. It's a zombie horse which refuse to die for good, and would be much better for the mankind if truly dead.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Truth can't die, man!
Creationism isn't a truth, its a lie
@@brianbowen1100 Indeed, truth can't die, no matter how many illiterate like you try to destroy it with lies and stupidity. That's why we keep laughing at creationism.
Zombie horse. Just like jesus. And like zombies eats your brains..
Regarding your "creationist are so 2010" rant, I remember I've seen a recent poll saying that people who believe the Earth is 10000 years old is at an all time low in the US. Meaning, 38% of the population. I was like "WTF???????" That's still INSANELY high.
Game Play - 8bit Heavy Metal I think that entire argument of "creationists or sjws" is fucking asinine.
BOTH. We should argue against fucking *BOTH.*
Game Play - 8bit Heavy Metal yes and they are in the majority where it matters government, schools ijl
38%? *facepalm* ...okay, I should ask for source before hurting my face.
38%? Isn't that around President Trump's current approval rating?
yep
To be a mediocre scientist or instead be a mental giant within the creationist movement.
exactly ....I think thats why they do that shit. The promise of fame makes ppl do shitty, stupid things.
Except for one thing: you don't need any credentials at all to be big in the creationist movement. Lisle is just that much dumber since he actually put effort into being a failure, instead of just failing naturally and being rewarded for it.
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven?
EdwardHowton and if all else fails just get your paper published and reviewed in your own journals , how dishonest.
To call Dr LIsle a mediocre scientist is being too kind.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Could this guy be
The next Winston Wu?
I was really hoping Mr Morgue would have that honour.
But can we make an entire series based on him?
We can make one on Jason Liar.
I was hoping so. Morgue made a second video after Marty's "A Morgue for Brain Cells". I haven't checked if he's made any more yet. Then again, Morgue is just another Jordan with more emphasis on "spooky physics" and em... makeup.
Substituting 'male and female energy' and 'consciousness levels' with 'science conspiracies'.
I have more to say about him as well. :)
It is utterly spooky to see someone educated in one field of science who rejects demonstrable reality.
And a chode
The Big Bang Theory is not "demonstrable reality" and neither is long ages. You can't repeat the "Big Bang" nor put it under a test tube. You cannot demonstrated in the least bit. Although Dr. Lisle didn't go into it on that presentation, there are a number of scientific problems with the "Big Bang." The Flatness Problem and the Horizon Problem for example. Since we are dealing with things in the past these are all based upon assumptions anyway.
@@brianbowen1100 yes science has it's unanswered problems yet it is the best and most productive endeavours man kind has come up with to try to reach the truth of reality. And in every case where science has discovered how reality works the answer has never been god or magic. This apologist is lying for his truth which indicates it's not truth.
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Not really, tell me where does the first matter come from( it had to exist isn't a answer, it is magic or created by God, see you both need faith since from the begining, nothing is logical for evolution) and why it would explode and create plants, animals, human being. evolving. Nothing goes to disorganized to organized, even cell. when cells are disorganized is because of cancer. Creacionism is also a science it is called Intelligent design and yes, it is the answer. Theory is not a Theorem as Baskhara, theorem is proved, thoery is speculation. God said let be the light, the sound comes first than light, and voice tone can vibrate molecular cell. Watch ruclips.net/video/WvJAgrUBF4w/видео.html . Evolucionism ruclips.net/video/U0u3-2CGOMQ/видео.html . If there is God which one it the true one, as many religions claim their God/s to be true one. Simple- The God of Bible. He says Human beings are inexcusable by looking at the nature. God signed himself in it. The nature is 3x2 as Him, God is 3x1- three people and only one god.- Father/ Jesus/ Holy Spirit.
Such as Time, is jusy one and is divided in - Past/present/future
Space- width/depth/height
Base of matter- Protons/neutros/ eletrons.- 3 quarks each
State of matter- Solid/ liquid/ gaseous
base of cell- Dna/Rna/ proteins
if you study music it is formed by - melody/ harmony/ rthytm.
Human being- body/soul/spirit.
But don't worry you will never forced to be a child of God, to that you would have to beliee and get to lnow Him. God has creatures and children , being a child is optional a creature no. He is coming back soon, who was a merciful lawyer who paid the price for mankind trangession now will be the fair judge. Hell is so real as Heaven and people are already there for eternity.
@@annapaula3352 you are wrong he is lying for gawd.
"I guess we just haven't caught up with the Bible now, have we."
That part made me crack up. Sick burns as always.
I have two words for you Martymer:
Oven mitt
wrong cannel, good idea
+Collette Daniels I honestly am not sure if you mean: "Martymer roasted this "Dr" creaturd, burning him, and thus needing over mitts", which is true, of if you mean: "Dr creaturd is the one on fire, burning Martymer" which is hugely false.
it's arunning joke at cool hard logic, oven mitts are needed to prevent any brain damage from facepalming at the idiocy of some people
Collette Daniels I'd say CHL brand, but that guy seems to think that people complaining about the use of "he" as a neutral pronoun are whiny illiterati, and then he called me one for daring to disagree.
Never meet your heroes... Damn, I'm ranting. Bye.
Marty has also used an oven mitt, based on CHL's suggestions of it. Think it was in the third one of the WDPLaSS webstie articles
There is no such thing as "high hanging fruit" in the creationist movement. This is not a criticism of Martymer; I love the guy to death. Nor is this a criticism of the topics he chooses to address; they must be debunked over and over again yet some moron think the creationist movement is full of anything other than bullshit. Instead, this criticism is in response to his critics who complain about him going after low hanging fruit.
Martymer is right, these kinds of things need to be adressed. Ignoring them will only make things worse. More atheist youtubers need to get their shit together and make more videos exposing this crap than SJW videos.
Yeah, I'm with you. I hope eventually we can say "SJW's is so 2017 or whatever. I mean, we should talk about that too if it's bullshit. Bullshit should be called out but I don't understand the channels that only talk about one thing. Plus, while we were all jacking ourselves off about the SJW's, these fucking guys took over the country right under our noses. Sneaky bastards.
they're not going to stop because it brings in all the mouth breathers who get them the ad money. It's annoying.
Social Justice is not any better. Both are cancer.
I didn't saw completely ignore it, I said they should focus more on the problem brought by these creationists.
Yeah, I agree. I was only clarifying my position.
I for one am extremely happy to see a new series from Martymer. I look forward to further installments.
Parker Davis haha did Jordan finally decide to stop dinking the kool-aid?
Creationist and astrophysicist, isn't that an oxymoron....
Yes, with emphasis on moron
MicroBlogganism And a lack of oxygen.
Not if you jump though hoops.
Actually its not. A true oxymoron would be an astrophysicist and a Flat Earther.
*OLA H:* What makes you think it is?
*MICROBLOGGANISM:* How so?
*COLIN MILLAR:* Funny! But actually, lack of rational thought and critical thinking, as well as a denial of the empirical evidence is what is required to have the faith of the Darwinist (common ancestry).
*SAKIEL:* Like the Darwinists do?
*POLITICO INCORRECTO:* LOL! But I think you meant (despite the thumbs that indicate that the scoffers aren't thinking): "A true oxymoron would be an astrophysicist [who is] a flat earther." [wink]
As I have come to expect, you have yet again provided a devastating takedown of an intellectually dishonest, morally crippled charlatan. I look forward to the next installment.
WildwoodClaire1 any chance of Claire coming out of the wild woodwork? I understand Trump is trying to open national parks/ forests up for mineral / oil exploration. I'd love to hear a geologist's take on why that's a terrible idea.
I really commend you living in Sweden which is (as far as I'm aware) very secular with a large atheist population for still going after these creationist kooks and being one of the few RUclipsrs out there who hasn't taken their eye off the ball, just as the threat is seriously growing in strength and influence, particularly since the biggest head of the Hydra hasn't even sprung up in your locale.
Love your videos and will always support them.
Not a patron but plan to be when I'm able.
You seriously deserve a higher subscriber count because people, particularly in the USA where I'm from, really need to hear this shit in huge numbers.
Merry Christmas or whatever winter holiday you celebrate.
Creation Research? I won't waste my time on this, because it's immediately obvious that this research is intellectually dishonest, and thus self-invalidating. How in the hell can you have research into a subject, when you've already decided what the results are going to prove?
Well there's still work to be done, even then: they need to find a way to get to where they "know" they will be.
This guy has a PhD in astrophysics? And he's a creationist? That's like being a veterinarian and a hunter!
KarbineKyle No those two can work now a vegan hunter
bjam89 i dunno man... PETA is all for euthanasia... the world has gone quite mad you know
False Analogy fallacy. There is nothing about creationism that implies we're against science. In fact, you might also be, inadvertently, doing a straw man because you are assuming that creationists are against science, but this is false. Creationists actually love science. In fact, the more I investigate science the more I see that God exist and he created all that we see today. From the information in our cells to nearly a hundred constants that are cosmically fine-tuned for life to exist on this planet!
@@brianbowen1100 To be a Young Earth Creationist, you have to be against science.
@@brianbowen1100 As was pointed out already in the video, the very statement of faith of the ICR shows already that they are against science.
"Creationists actually love science."
No, they don't. They pick and chose some small bits and pieces from science, but reject most of it.
"In fact, the more I investigate science the more I see that God exist"
Then apparently you are investigating wrong. There is a _very_ clear statistical correlation: the more people know about science, the less they believe in any gods usually.
"to nearly a hundred constants that are cosmically fine-tuned for life to exist on this planet"
First, there are no independet hundred constants of nature, WTF are you talking about? Second, there are lots of good arguments why this apparent "fine-tuning" actually isn't one - among several others: A universe which is hostile to life in 99.9999999999999999% of its volume and enables life only on the thin surface of some planets is "fine-tuned" for life, in your opinion? Seriously?! Third, this claimed fine-tuning actually is evidence _against_ a omnipotent god which created life. After all, if he is omnipotent, then he should have had no problems with creating live even in a universe which is _not_ fine-tuned for life; on the other hand, in a universe which _is_ fine-tuned for life, this obviously means that liife can appear on its own. If it could not do that, then you would have yet another argument showing that the universe is _not_ fine-tuned for life.
When your investigations of science all are on this level, where you get such basic stuff wrong, then you don't really understand science.
We haven't even run them off RUclips. While many of the old guard of youtube atheists and skeptics have turned into manbabies crying about feminism, the creationists have crept back in.
And you won't "run us off" either. We have just as much right to be here as you do! Maybe you guys need start trying to "run us off" and start listening to what we have to say.
That second to the last "start" is suppose to be "stop." A typo due to me typing too fast. Sorry.
@@brianbowen1100 The problem is we've heard everything you have to say - and it contradicts reality.
Either your Creator doesn't exist, or He is a liar. Neither suggests He should be revered.
No one has a 'right' to be on RUclips, because it is a private company, a product. But that's a different issue.
Brian, why should we listen to what you have to say, when it's bullshit? I have listened to creationists for years, and you're wrong. It's really simple. You haven't got a fucking thing to stand your argument upon. You'd know this if you listened to people you didn't already agree with. Creationism, and intelligent design, are PATHETIC. That you don't know this is sad.
It's not meant to be read literally. It's not an old newspaper.
Glad to see you're still making videos, Martymer. I love your stuff, and it's some of my favorite background noise when I need something on.
A new Martymer series, I'm stoked.
Regardless of the fact that debunking these people is still important, I love these videos cause it's something different from the constant SJW- Anti-SJW back and forth.
Thanks! This will be an awesomw series!
Well, hot damn. Martymer 81, I'm overjoyed to finally see a new video from ya. That you chose a topic that carries the same passionate, brutal honesty (not to mention your own brand of sarcasm) I've liked most about your WDLaSS videos is a much needed bonus. Thanks!
You're doing a great job Martymer81. You far deserve more subscribers than you have. Keep up the good work! :-). And I'll keep sharing it.
My day just significantly improved when I saw that Martymer posted a video.
you did it again! hope to see another video soon! great entrrtainment
Bless ya, Marty, for remaining one of the precious few skeptics talking about substantive shit, not among the army of punch-down clowns telling angsty teenage boys that feminism is bad.
D-Squared: We do have social issues that need to be addressed, unfortunately. As important as science is, that makes little difference when young people think history was peaceful and pristine until the evil men in boats came to the "New World" and invented evil. Feminism isn't bad when it is about equal rights. Yet having a population that is failing to reproduce because they're consumed with selfish & mindless pursuits, coupled with young people who think they can "sexually identify" as various animals- is the opposite of "OK."
@@horatiotrismegistus616 this is super late, but do ya maybe think the "failing to reproduce" bit is more a conscious decision by the current generation after seeing how many kids are up for adoption and the growing concerns of overpopulation? The human race isnt exactly in a make or break state population wise, we can and should slow down.
@@douglaslangley9251 Yeah, I know. Everyone is terrified of the confusion about Islam being a religion, NOT a race. But you can't defeat your enemies (the West) if you tell them the truth. And the truth is that if people thought it was hard getting Christianity out of everyone's personal lives, Islam will be a 1000 times worse if we don't wake up. No more music, no more freedom, no more constitution, no more human rights. When separation of church & state is tossed out the window, we're all screwed. And guess who is reproducing at higher rates than *anyone* else on the planet...
Just happened across your site. Great video. Looking forward to watching more.
I remember a video of Lisle in which he accused evolutionists of constructing strawmen and then went on to construct a strawman.
How can an astronomer possibly believe that the Sun actually stood still?
I guess this means that if my biology degree doesn't work out I could always fall back on the creationism industry. Oh god that would hurt so much, nevermind.
Loved the video (as usual), and then got a bonus laugh when the end-screen ad banner said, "What Kills Church Growth?"
Love your videos. Keep em up.
Great start to the series!
All I can say is, "Take what ye can! Give nothin' back!"
I just now discovered this video. I'm subbed and bell-thingied, but for some reason NotRUclips decided to hide this video and the subsequent ones from my feed. Glad I found it!
For part two I rewatched this ... and love how the star background almost gives you a halo
This is my first time watching a video from this channel. I saw someone recommend this video in a comment thread on a different channel. Glad I found out about this. Immediately had to subscribe!
Neat stuff, keep up the good work! I'm a theist, but one that has studied science. I just always thought that lot's of stuff in the bible was figurative or symbolic. I never let religious beliefs interfere with my studies of science. People like this Dr. Lisle (young earth creations) do a huge disservice to all religious people who love science.
Love the intro, It's still important to drive out creationism wherever it rears it's ugly head.
And the Pastafarians help.
3.14 Dragon yes, carbs give you the energy to fight creationists
It's always a good day when Martymer is on the prowl.
A pleasure, as always.
Nostalgic. Love your work
3:43 If God is infinite, why are there only a finite *"number"* of ways the heavenly cosmos reflects his character? Lmao. I suppose if an infinitely brutal, hostile, nihilistic vacuum *antithetical to human life,* utterly devoid of love and empathy that is *indifferent to our existence* constitutes creation, then the character of the Biblical God is *most certainly* displayed & revealed in space haha.
Man I missed your vids
Dear Martymer... I remember watching an interview in which Lisle was asked... "what do you do when science is in direct contradiction to what the bible says ?"... and Lisle, without batting an eye stated... "well then I go with the bible since it's the word of god."
Lisle is a liar... but what many non christian people don't know is that god had put in a "signing statement" at the bottom of the 9th Commandment... which reads... "Lying is OK as long as you are lying for Me." Besides the 9th Commandment says... "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy Neighbor"... which I guess means it's OK to spread bullshit about the people who live on the other side of town.
Tensor analysis of the gravitational tensor in the context of expansion is hard.
I suspect that there are few if any astrophysicists or mathematicians who have done it.
Thank you for this video. I have just a bit of astronomy education (graduate diploma in astronomy), but Dr. Lisle's support for AIG and his cognitive dissonance has bothered me since I learned who he was. He had to formally study math, physics, and at least surveyed all disciplines of astronomy and astrophysics and provide enough correct answers on tests to earn his degrees. Then, he abandons it for a shepherd's fable AND knowingly misrepresents science to the public. Disappointing.
i wonder if jason lial is being willfully dishonest for money. we all know that most american's actually worship money. i don't think lial is dumb i think he's a clever liar
It's either that, or he's lying to himself as much as to his audience, perhaps to keep himself from accepting the reality that what he was indoctrinated into was bullshit.
The instant you admit to differing to preferred beliefs when they contradict with observation is the instant I begin to never trust anything you have to say regardless of your educational background because I wouldn't want to risk getting a sloppy education from someone who is willingly dishonest.
David Murphy That is *not* how science works.
And how does he know that the bible is the word of god?
"And how does he know that the bible is the word of god?"
Because Jason Lisle is also a presuppositional apologist. I think he will touch in that he this very talk, so have your oven mitt ready, in case of sudden facepalms.
+Anase Skyrider You meant to write "deferring to preferred beliefs", not "differing to preferred beliefs".
Can you please explain in what way YEC controls education in the USA? Can you provide me a single textbook that is widely used in the USA public education system that teaches creationism at any grade level?
Marty don't ever stop
"That's not a feature. That's a bug." Priceless.
as soon as i saw Jason Lisle, the first thing my brain responded to was Suiggy, from Laverne & Shirley
Well done sir.
Even if the Bible was originally written by gods own hand
How many times has it been translated/re worded
and how many versions are there
so which one is the infallible one?
PS. I am LDS and we use a version of the Bible (King James I think)
Hoping in part two this guy tries to square the problem of how we even see starlight from >6-10,000 light yrs away (therefore > 6-10k yrs ago)..Got my popcorn ready!
*"...instead we formulate hypotheses and we attempt to disprove." (**2:37**)* The hypothesis that gene transcription errors are capable of generating novel organs, organisms, and organic systems de novo, who attempted to disprove that? How was it tested? What were the results?
I have studied evolutionary theory for a very long time, Fragarach. I have never encountered any evidence that gene transcription errors are capable of generating novel organs, organisms, or organic systems. In every instance, that ability has been ASSUMED, or EXTRAPOLATED from trivial mutational changes. But thank you for your suggestion, anyway.
No you're completely right about keeping debunking them. It got a bit stale with always the same arguments but since most youtubers went on there was some time for them to gather a few new things and just because it has been done to death doesn't mean we should stop. They won't stop so we shouldn't either.
Holy shit. I got a 6 minute ad about how life can't be by chance. I was waiting for the punchline then realized it was an ad.
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Paetaor I've had a 30 minute preaching video as an ad before an 8 minute video
Creationism is an important issue. Is there anyone who thinks creationism shouldn't be talked about? Also, low hanging fruit can sometimes be tasty.
+Martymer 81 - Thank you for the video and for everything you do to promote science, despite not getting paid for this. And thank you for trying to bring attention to the fact that the creationist may not be on YT, (because YT isn't important in the long run) but are till debauching education in the real world.
Dr. Lisle is the epitome of why we can rely on the science scientific over time. To paraphrase the Christian Dr. Francis Collins who opined that science may not get it right the first, second or third time, but it will eventually.
Is there a verb form for heretic, heresy, heretical, etc.? Just curious.
Oh geeze I know that church. It looks exactly like my parents' church. I'm not surprised Calvary Chapel would host an ICR "scientist."
Both large and small universes are consistent with naturalism. All naturalism says is that the universe obeys well defined mathematical laws. There is no requirement to even have a spacetime structure in which the concept of size is meaningful. In a deterministic universe the chance you exist is 100%, whatever its size, because you are an inevitable result of the laws. In a universe with some random element or random starting condition then the chance you, exactly right in every detail, exists is tiny unless the universe is FAR larger than ours and contains every possibility.
Actually I'm glad that there's at least _one_ youtube skeptic still taking on creationists' claims.
Most others have either stopped making videos, or moved on to comment mostly on other topics (usually politics). I'm not blaming them in any way, and I understand perfectly well why they have shifted topics, and in fact in many cases I actually agree with the move. However, that doesn't mean the need for criticism of creationism is gone. Far from it!
The topic is still interesting, and even if the claims being dealt with are mostly the same, it's interesting to hear different approaches to criticizing them.
And, as you say, if attention is diverted too much to other topics (politics being currently by far the biggest one), the creationists might sneakily start getting power once again, because nobody is paying attention.
(rewatching; @9:00 - What do you think holding the entire bible as metaphor? I think it has some interesting stories, important life lessons from bygone eras (some if not most irrelevant to modern man.
And i think its shame, and problem most agnostics and atheists i know havent and never will read it.
If Jason Lisle and Neil deGrasse Tyson should ever come into contact, would they annihilate each other like matter/antimatter?
Aaron Hankoff well, Bill Nye and Ken Ham tried that....
Neil deGrasse Tyson would annihilate potato-brained Lisle.
Truth is seldom a Barrier to those who Crave Money and power
Is that gravitational lensing on the bottom left of the background image?
Logicked won't finish Kent hovind series so I hope you finish yours
Where is the Spirit Science series? The last episode was in January...
About the "countless number of stars": There are about 5000 stars visible to the naked eye (wikipedia) so I do not know about "countless".
right at 7:14 when you're talking about the bible i got an ad about a messianic bible.
The good doctor choose money over integrity.
the "Translation" part cracked me up xD
I think this guy's PhD needs to be revoked. He undermines the credibility of everyone else with one. Just shows how (all) religion fucks up what might have been a perfectly decent mind.
I would be more impressed if I was able to get ancient biblical transcripts that pertain to the supposed verses that are about Astrophysics, I pick a scripture at random (the chapters and verse's numbers removed) and actually have this astrophysicist translated it in front of me (with a translation expert there to observe that he doesn't bias the translation). And then tell me what it says using his translation. I would daresay he would be hard pressed to come to any conclusion on the authenticity of the 'facts' his precious bible revealed.
Nor does the Bible claim the universe was "stretched out." It says the heavens were rolled out, like cookies on a flat board. A compass (two points, one planted and the other to pivot) to draw a circle in the gound which was then domed over.
How is it our astrophysicist is so so young and his voice is so old?
Watching this again after my initial rant. I still stand by what I wrote but I think I can re-tell it in a shorter way. He's not an awful astronomer, he's a bad astrologer. He's also still a dangerous liar.
Btw, Chambers, of dictionary fame, wrote a book on evolution way before Darwin (and he wasn't the first by a long shot). He didn't get it all right but made some very interesting observations. Given the nature of the time, it was printed anonymously. The thought was that he'd end up causing trouble for the family printing business. The book ended up selling out and needing reprints. The people of early Victorian times weren't as wholly dogmatic as we often presume. I believe that the queen herself read the book (or it may have been the very pro-science Albert). As for the predicted fuss? There would be a far bigger one today. I think that's more of an indictment against the "conservative" religious people of today than those of heading on for 200 years ago. What does that say about today? I'm not encouraged.
Love your videos Martymer!
Är du svensk?
The Brian Mullin of astronomy.
Good one.
When are going to make part 2
I was looking away and just listening. Lisle says, "as the stars of heaven, and as the sand which is upon the seashore" @11:14, and I thought, "the sandwiches upon the seashore? What is going on in the bronze age??"
Keep fighting the good fight,Marty.Love your videos,buddy.Stupidity is rampant,not just in this country,but worldwide.If allowed to win,the stupid will bring down our current culture.
Ha I got an add for a Christian university before the vid. Can't wait for part two.
1:11
I can not unsee "BEHOLD METH" now.
Congrats. You got one of my rare likes.
I wanna go to one of his talks
You should do a video on creationists in Sweden next.
1:52 That's a statement of faith, aka a gargantuan red flag as any statement of faith boils down to "This is what I want to believe, I'm closed minded, evidence and facts only mean what I want them to mean". Faith in this sense of the word is inherently the most dishonest position possible to hold on any conceivable issue.
It doesn’t matter how big the universe is it doesn’t explain how a complex cell formed by blind random chance into one of millions of cells that form one muscle in the iris when said iris muscle is useless without all the other parts of the eye.
If you want to stop spouting BS in RUclips comments and actually find out, I'd suggest studying the topic.
The orbit is the mechanism by which the earth is suspended.
What Circus did you run away from?
"Secular herpetologist" I have never heard that phrase before
In other words they will always jam a square peg in a round hole and say it fits
science and its process has peer review. which is another way of saying that scientists work hard to discredit their peer's papers, by effectively testing them to destruction. if that fails, it's the highest validation possible!
2 things wrong at 13:30. Science existed since the ancient Greek time, it was more like methodic learning at the time through observation. Also no, not everyone was a creationist. There were several people who didn't believe in Gods. They just weren't called atheists.
Razgrits not exactly, what the Greeks did can be thought of as "protoscience" but the scientific method as we know it was developed about 400 or so years ago. The ancient Greeks are owed a lot of credit for science, but what they practiced wasn't the same exact methodology of modern science as developed in the age of reason.
Ancient Greek Science - Ancient History Encyclopedia
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A fellow believer, Christopher Sharpe, had his own encounter with Lisle:
cs-cubed.com/csharp/lisle.html#after
"I decided to have some interactions with him after his first talk, but as I had to leave relatively early, I could only interact with him briefly. Knowing that he has a Ph.D. in solar physics, I asked him that if the Sun were only about 6000 years old, how could he explain the fact that the abundance of helium in the center is consistent with about 4.5 billion years of nuclear burning. Many creationists duck these types of arguments by stating that they are full of assumptions, but I knew that he knew that that argument would not work, so he basically said that God created the Sun to appear that way. After his third talk I had a bit more time, and pressed that point further with no success."
Later:
"My final question as I was leaving was to ask him what scientific evidence would make him change his mind, to which he replied that none would. I replied that that is dogma19, which is OK in religion, but not science, therefore he is not doing science if he cannot accept any contrary evidence, even in principle, to which he tried to redefine what science is. Logically, if a dogmatic belief does not accept even in principle any contrary evidence, then any evidence, including supporting evidence, is irrelevant. The supporting evidence he showed during his talks is in fact irrelevant, and only shown to convince people in the church that the universe is about 6000 years old, but in fact none of this supposedly supporting evidence stands up to scrutiny, or is not relevant to the argument."
the egyptians said water above & below as well
I've actually sat through one of his talks before
BeamStalk Of Kekistan when did you get out of gitmo?
that same day :P
Any idea when the next part will be up?