2:44, the moment when Debacle does what no two wheeled MOE has ever done before, get sent flying out of control and bounce off all four walls in a matter of seconds.
Great fight by some really well designed bots! I was particularly impressed by Debacle's ability to get thrown around the arena and keep fighting, for as long as it did. Watching this was like watching Megabyte and Shinsplitter in miniature.
Wow, that little full body spinner is like a high school fire alarm bell from hell turned robotic spinner weapon. So hard to fight against something like that without a wedge that can get under it or some kind of impact weapon that comes down on its top like a hammer or pick. Maybe design a shorter spinning blade for Debacle and very thin wedge that can be attached to the bottom side of the blade mount that sticks out just past the reach of the blade (similar to Apex's front wedge system) that can be swapped in when facing opponents with these type designs. Assuming they allow modular weapon/armour changes in this tournament as long as you remain under the weight limit.
I don't know what weapons lua had looked like a spinning bowl. The other bot, looks like tombstone from battlebots, gets points for aggression but it went flying around the ring like it was flung?
@@VestedUTuber It's not a flaw as far as I can see, it's intentional. The sleek design means that it deflects attackers... it would be less efficient at that if it had extra bits around the sides.
Tbh I think Debacle would be perfect with a wedge like pushing bots then destroying them. That could take out spinners also no need to follow my idea I just had that in mind (the wedge would be in the back)
I noticed that your blade was scratching over his top instead of hitting him and throwing him to the side. If you slow down the blade a little by not pushing the accelerator all the way to the top (maybe 3/4 of the way), then the blade might catch an edge on your opponent a little better. Blades going at high rpm's are known for grinding an opponent without slicing or tearing the opponents armor.
i would love to get out to one of these events some day they look like so much fun just built my first kit bot hopefully i can get out to compete some time
Stupid question of the video How does it feel to have some kid you never met look up to you and the rest of your team with great respect and somewhat as heros
@@kurafutomine9874 Mechanically, the weapon amounts to _at most_ a motor, belt drive and the spinning shell itself. Structurally, you do have to make sure the shell is properly balanced, but since the weapon functions as the bot's armor it results in the bot not needing a complex chassis apart from the weapon mounts and even then those primarily just need to be sturdy enough to take the abuse. Electrically, you've got a battery, an ESC and a motor for power and a receiver sending signals to the ESC for control. You pretty much have to go without an active weapon if you want anything simpler.
I disagree, FBS bots are very complicated. Everything in the bot has to be super compact to fit under the shell. The weapon is only supported on one side so the bearing assembly has to be very stout. The wires all have to be secured so they don’t get sucked into the shell. The entire chassis has to be very rigid because any flex will make it unstable. Not to mention that manufacturing a balanced shell is very difficult.
@@TeamVelocity Yeah, the compactness of the design is definitely an issue, but you're going to run into that with most compact designs. Weapon support is an issue, but that's also somewhat dependent on whether you run a live shaft or a deadshaft. A deadshaft can basically be bolted to the chassis, but a live shaft requires bearing mounts and makes things even more problematic. Direct drive is also an option but it has some of the disadvantages of a live shaft and also basically needs a custom motor setup to be reliable. I'd generally recommend deadshafts only for anything bigger than 1lb. As for securing wires, some FBSs, like Shrederator, actually have an internal case over their chassis - this also helps with rigidity. For everything else, there's zip ties. As for rigidity, that comes down to materials and frame design. But since 3D printed carbon fiber nylons are becoming more common, that's becoming a bit less of an issue provided you know how to print them for maximum layer adhesion. Finally, a properly balanced shell is only difficult to make if you're doing things by hand. CNC equipment makes it much easier. Also, balance pretty much applies to all spinners. There's a lot of fiddly details with shell spinners, but conceptually they're really simple. I have a saying about this type of bot and it kinda mirrors my saying about combat robots in general: It's easy to make a shell spinner. It's difficult to make a _good_ one. I've built one before, but it was so crap and I knew it was so crap that I never even bothered to enter it into a competition. But I plan on building another one and doing it right this time.
Oh, they definitely have destructive power relative to their weight class, but due to the square cube law smaller bots tend to hold together better. In the beetleweight class you generally see less parts flying all over and more _entire bots_ flying all over. Especially when vertical spinners get involved. My old Beetleweight, Melanistic Leopard, has scored quite a few ceiling hits, and I'm hoping its successor Shadow Leopard will do the same.
I'm just wanting to share which robot I'm rooting for before I watch the video cause "why not?"...sadly, it ends up being the exact same robot in this case :(
Actually, Lua's entire shell spins at high speed, and it has impact teeth on the outside. Problem is, it was spinning too fast and the impact teeth weren't really big enough to get much bite. Look up Shrederator, Megabyte, Typhoon 2, Ziggo, Blendo, Moebius, Trilobiter, Number 2 or Batter Blaster to see how a bot like that is supposed to work.
This whole fight is just Dog Bowl vs. Tiny Tombstone.
I love it.
Lookes more like shrederator vs tombstone
Achievement Unlocked! Touch all four walls of the box in under 5 seconds!
2:44, the moment when Debacle does what no two wheeled MOE has ever done before, get sent flying out of control and bounce off all four walls in a matter of seconds.
Today, you will be fighting the frying pan from hell
I'll use my frying pan
as a
driving pan
@@TrianglePants 👌
Great fight by some really well designed bots! I was particularly impressed by Debacle's ability to get thrown around the arena and keep fighting, for as long as it did.
Watching this was like watching Megabyte and Shinsplitter in miniature.
This video drastically increased the amount of respect I have for dog bowls.
Kilobyte vs Tinystone
Wow, that little full body spinner is like a high school fire alarm bell from hell turned robotic spinner weapon. So hard to fight against something like that without a wedge that can get under it or some kind of impact weapon that comes down on its top like a hammer or pick. Maybe design a shorter spinning blade for Debacle and very thin wedge that can be attached to the bottom side of the blade mount that sticks out just past the reach of the blade (similar to Apex's front wedge system) that can be swapped in when facing opponents with these type designs. Assuming they allow modular weapon/armour changes in this tournament as long as you remain under the weight limit.
The full body spainne really needs bigger teeth thoug,h it can't get a good bite on anything.
I don't know what weapons lua had looked like a spinning bowl. The other bot, looks like tombstone from battlebots, gets points for aggression but it went flying around the ring like it was flung?
That full body spinner would be better with some decent-sized teeth. It doesn't get enough bite.
True, but honestly that's the only flaw I see with it.
@@VestedUTuber It's not a flaw as far as I can see, it's intentional. The sleek design means that it deflects attackers... it would be less efficient at that if it had extra bits around the sides.
@@SardonicALLY
You could still make the trailing edges of the teeth smooth. Giving it bigger teeth wouldn't hurt its ability to deflect attacks.
Tbh I think Debacle would be perfect with a wedge like pushing bots then destroying them. That could take out spinners also no need to follow my idea I just had that in mind (the wedge would be in the back)
Wedges are heavy. To add one I would have to make the weapon a lot lighter, and then it would not be as destructive.
@@TeamVelocity oh sorry
Wow Lua looks to be incredibly solidly built!
Does that spinning thing have any weakness point？
Lua's entire shell is one piece of steel, so it's nearly impenetrable. However, it is vulnerable to being flipped upside down.
Any chance you know who made lua? I'd like to talk to him :3
Camden Wallraff
Lua sound Hawaiian. It's what we use for toilet.
NO WEAKNESS
It had one, but it fell off after the first hit.
I noticed that your blade was scratching over his top instead of hitting him and throwing him to the side. If you slow down the blade a little by not pushing the accelerator all the way to the top (maybe 3/4 of the way), then the blade might catch an edge on your opponent a little better. Blades going at high rpm's are known for grinding an opponent without slicing or tearing the opponents armor.
callen hunger thats complete bullshit,higher speed = higher penetration just like with bullets
callen hunger if he wanted more destruction he should have put a lower blade
@robertjusic9097 higher penetration if it connects, this is a spinning bar, not a projectile, so the high speed causes glancing blows
This is adorable! They are so tiny, its so cute
They're tiny but deadly but they're so cute at the same time
i would love to get out to one of these events some day they look like so much fun just built my first kit bot hopefully i can get out to compete some time
Check Builder's Database for a list of upcoming events. There might be something near you.
what did he make that shell out of?
Some kind of steel, not sure which alloy.
1:39 Nothing Personal Kid.
Ziggo is that you?
That flat bot is quite nifty... neat design
Wow. The square-cube law really changes how the fights go at this scale. Kinetic energy weapons are pretty much useless here.
That little bastard is indestructable
Mini-Tombstone was launching all over the place. That saucepan was it's kryptonite.
so who won?
theID2 I think Lua (that fire alarm body spinner) won.
Stupid question of the video
How does it feel to have some kid you never met look up to you and the rest of your team with great respect and somewhat as heros
These stupid questions are getting harder to answer. Come to an event and I can give you stickers and disappoint you simultaneously!
Thanks to that it will be the one, but now I will ever how to get to a event from Tennessee
2:25, spark power activated
Mini tombstone verses mini mobious.
I think captain shrederator wouldve fit it much better than mobius
simplicity is the big success any prove it
Bikash Chandra Das really ? An FBS is simple how the fuck is it simple
@@kurafutomine9874
Mechanically, the weapon amounts to _at most_ a motor, belt drive and the spinning shell itself. Structurally, you do have to make sure the shell is properly balanced, but since the weapon functions as the bot's armor it results in the bot not needing a complex chassis apart from the weapon mounts and even then those primarily just need to be sturdy enough to take the abuse. Electrically, you've got a battery, an ESC and a motor for power and a receiver sending signals to the ESC for control. You pretty much have to go without an active weapon if you want anything simpler.
I disagree, FBS bots are very complicated. Everything in the bot has to be super compact to fit under the shell. The weapon is only supported on one side so the bearing assembly has to be very stout. The wires all have to be secured so they don’t get sucked into the shell. The entire chassis has to be very rigid because any flex will make it unstable. Not to mention that manufacturing a balanced shell is very difficult.
@@TeamVelocity
Yeah, the compactness of the design is definitely an issue, but you're going to run into that with most compact designs. Weapon support is an issue, but that's also somewhat dependent on whether you run a live shaft or a deadshaft. A deadshaft can basically be bolted to the chassis, but a live shaft requires bearing mounts and makes things even more problematic. Direct drive is also an option but it has some of the disadvantages of a live shaft and also basically needs a custom motor setup to be reliable. I'd generally recommend deadshafts only for anything bigger than 1lb. As for securing wires, some FBSs, like Shrederator, actually have an internal case over their chassis - this also helps with rigidity. For everything else, there's zip ties. As for rigidity, that comes down to materials and frame design. But since 3D printed carbon fiber nylons are becoming more common, that's becoming a bit less of an issue provided you know how to print them for maximum layer adhesion. Finally, a properly balanced shell is only difficult to make if you're doing things by hand. CNC equipment makes it much easier. Also, balance pretty much applies to all spinners.
There's a lot of fiddly details with shell spinners, but conceptually they're really simple. I have a saying about this type of bot and it kinda mirrors my saying about combat robots in general: It's easy to make a shell spinner. It's difficult to make a _good_ one. I've built one before, but it was so crap and I knew it was so crap that I never even bothered to enter it into a competition. But I plan on building another one and doing it right this time.
like an animal trying to get its food under the frying pan
Guess I better buy a metal bowl on Amazon now
lua is my new fbs idol
Oh man, when Skynet achieves self awareness we’re all screwed!
Looks like a miniature Tombstone
It basically is a miniature Tombstone.
Minibyte vs tombpebble
Now a 250lb version of that spinner is solid as hell
getting beaten up by a hubcap, the shame of it
Battle Bots: Downsize Edition.
get a flipper and that thing would be one hit ko
I suddenly respect dog bowls alot more after watching this video
Top 10 anime fight
Tombstone vs Megabyte
Tombstone before he ate his Wheaties.
Biohazard had a full body spinner child. :D
Mini tombstone vs mini UFO BOXER (custom bot) how cute
thats a top one ufo
Debacle was made to be as low as possible.
Lua: Beat ya!
*Sigh...
Who won anyway?
-_-
+PopsicleStick :D Lua won.
Thanks!
lol different weight class make all the difference, spinners don't have enough destructive power to penetrate the armor
Oh, they definitely have destructive power relative to their weight class, but due to the square cube law smaller bots tend to hold together better. In the beetleweight class you generally see less parts flying all over and more _entire bots_ flying all over. Especially when vertical spinners get involved.
My old Beetleweight, Melanistic Leopard, has scored quite a few ceiling hits, and I'm hoping its successor Shadow Leopard will do the same.
that is thumberstone
Lua reminds me of Ziggo.
All you need ia just another simple weapon to beat that Blade just like thomston vs alcoholic stepfather
Tombstone mini vs Upside down frying pan sans handle.
Ese Robot parece una bolanta de autos
Debacle Vs. Water Dish. Water Dish wins!
Parallaxus AKA a steel fire alarm
O
One of them is a copy of the robot tombstone from battle bots.
Y is u dumb
LUA, I'm liking you, you sexy shining girl 😄
megabyte vs tombstone beetleweight
Hehe mini tombstone
gotta go with Debacle
Why are you spamming the same exact comment into every robot combat video on RUclips?
I'm just wanting to share which robot I'm rooting for before I watch the video cause "why not?"...sadly, it ends up being the exact same robot in this case :(
TheInflicted yea every vid i watch i always see this fool
That announcer needs a new hobby
Tombstone little wanna b
That pan is one lame build. Has no offense whatsoever.
Actually, Lua's entire shell spins at high speed, and it has impact teeth on the outside. Problem is, it was spinning too fast and the impact teeth weren't really big enough to get much bite. Look up Shrederator, Megabyte, Typhoon 2, Ziggo, Blendo, Moebius, Trilobiter, Number 2 or Batter Blaster to see how a bot like that is supposed to work.
Well that was boring...