This guy BEAT HAPPY as Human! How did he do it? - WC3 - Grubby

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • A casual watch party / cast (not a hype cast). Intent is to learn and enjoy together. Chinese player Fortitude recently managed to beat one of the best players in the world, Happy... and he plays Human! Let's check out how he managed this feat, and try to pick up some tips along the way!
    This guy BEAT HAPPY as Human! How did he do it? (Live on 20-February-2024)
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Комментарии • 88

  • @jialerchang9256
    @jialerchang9256 7 месяцев назад +38

    Fortitude's fortitude really paid off... What a show of character. Imagine losing to happy hundreds of times and still not giving up.

    • @drakonli
      @drakonli 2 месяца назад

      Imagine playing hundred times and giving up on 101

  • @sbonel3224
    @sbonel3224 7 месяцев назад +36

    so nice to see human nuking undead heroes like that

  • @vm5773
    @vm5773 7 месяцев назад +34

    Love your commentary of this game, Grubby. So much more insight than what others provide. Of course, love watching your games more, but your commentary is amazing.

    • @datadood
      @datadood 7 месяцев назад +2

      Glad it became a commentary instead of a cast. Commentary is alot more chill

  • @mxt4052
    @mxt4052 7 месяцев назад +24

    His viewer actually paid him to play against Happy and many other players,no matter how bad he lost in the first half of last year.I think that's a very big differance compare to other players who can only make money from winning tournaments.And the fact he got way more opportunity to play against Happy made him have a much better early game than other Hum players.

  • @Sindamsc
    @Sindamsc 7 месяцев назад +67

    Bluzzard nerfed Happy's race twenty times only because he is so much better than anyone else, that's how 😂

    • @Amoeby
      @Amoeby 7 месяцев назад

      *Blizzard

    • @PlaystationMan-e3p
      @PlaystationMan-e3p 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@Amoeby fartzard

    • @milostivo
      @milostivo 7 месяцев назад +3

      did u put 'u' instead of 'i' on purpose knowing that russian letter 'u' means english 'i' as little Easter egg, which reminds that Happy is russian, or you just misstapped?

    • @hommhommhomm
      @hommhommhomm 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@milostivoI think then it's Blu33apd

    • @thijsjong
      @thijsjong 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@milostivou and i are next to eachother and U have fat fingers or U am tured and myfungers are of by a luttle but.

  • @radoslavdragnev8797
    @radoslavdragnev8797 7 месяцев назад +6

    forti is the worlds best human player and probably along the best 5 players in the world

    • @Karim-ik5ij
      @Karim-ik5ij 7 месяцев назад +1

      He has really come a long way. I think Grubby said SOK was the number 1 human player but Forti is very close or even better.

    • @ayw5118
      @ayw5118 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Karim-ik5ij yeah looking at games in recent months Forti is a league ahead of sok in every aspect

    • @radoslavdragnev8797
      @radoslavdragnev8797 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Karim-ik5ij forti beat SOK as if Sok is afk. Watch them play a mirror match with exact same build and hero and setup and forti is just dominating without breaking a sweat. Sok is #2 but is far away from forti

  • @vicdark8807
    @vicdark8807 7 месяцев назад +5

    The BetBoom Grand Final of Forti vs Happy was insane!

  • @alschirjaev9213
    @alschirjaev9213 7 месяцев назад +5

    great game. thanks for casting/showing it.

  • @BenjaminJones-y4h
    @BenjaminJones-y4h 7 месяцев назад +2

    using dark ritual like that is ALMOST like spending money for a level drain spell. combine that with ritual dagger, and you could really deny every ghoul.

  • @thijsjong
    @thijsjong 7 месяцев назад +1

    Mass gargs against human?
    You can only makenthat work with god tier micro.
    You will have to outmass gyros or hope je overcommits on gyros and switch back to ground.
    One small micro mistake and riffles eat you up.
    Gargs only counter human casters. For the rest they are pretty shitty. Maybe help destroyers against gyros by flanking them.

  • @jinstudio7662
    @jinstudio7662 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm kinda new to the game, so may I ask you this: what is the condition of the game to win?

    • @Jailbird830
      @Jailbird830 7 месяцев назад +2

      The only win condition of the game is to actually destroy all your enemy’s buildings. Even if they had a huge army, but you destroy all their buildings, you will automatically win.
      If we’re talking about general ‘win conditions’ from match to match, it will largely depend on the matchup (which race vs which race) and the other million nuances that the best players like Happy, Grubby, etc can explain better than I can 😅

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 7 месяцев назад +1

    Cool game, but am honestly surprised at Happy's sloppiness at times.
    (In fact, it could be said that this has been a recent trend for him in the past 2 years or so.
    There are many factors to that: Him getting OLD, *but MORESO:* UD getting constant NERFS, while opposing races getting constant BUFFS... :/ ....
    Topic for another time, I know, but it should be mentioned quickly even now: That's what happens when you let *TOD* have _ANY_ say in the game's balance decisions... )
    Let's see now:
    * Lack of consistent invuln purchase. You absolutely NEED that to survive against Human nuke.
    * Not enough upgrades. He was facing 3-1 (+devotion) Gryphons with just 1-1 (+weaker devotion) Fiends.
    * Not adapting to the switch from Tanks to mass air in time. Frankly, I don't think that banshees would have solved Happy's problems, contrary to Grubby's impressions.
    * *EVEN* with timely upgrades, I'm actually NOT convinced he would have survived the onslaught of *THE HUMAN NUKE !!* ... It's simply iм6аlапсеd against UD, unfortunately !! :(
    .
    *STILL -- **_INSANE PROPS_** to Fortitude for turning this around somehow !! :O* (_DESPITE_ the innate IМВА of human nuke... :S )
    *WHAT. A. **_GAME_** !! O_O*
    .

  • @alonilin
    @alonilin 7 месяцев назад +7

    6:26 lich projectile riches mk

    • @zedopikao
      @zedopikao 7 месяцев назад

      the projectile was purple tho, it wasn't lich

    • @alonilin
      @alonilin 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@zedopikao is was lich with undead orb

    • @zedopikao
      @zedopikao 7 месяцев назад

      @@alonilin oh yeah you're right, I didn't see the orb

    • @rjelavic
      @rjelavic 2 месяца назад

      but it does no dmg (you can see the HP of the MK because he was selected at the time)

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 7 месяцев назад +1

    Did a recent patch fix the bug of Orbs not transmitting Bash/etc. to magic-immune air units? It at least used to be that even though Mountain King could Bash magic-immune units on the ground, and could Bash air units with an Orb, Mountain King couldn't Bash maggic-immune air units with Orb, even though the regular attack damage went through.

  • @JB-jm6lo
    @JB-jm6lo 7 месяцев назад +1

    So, its this easy, just make 4 workshops and 3 aviaries against ud. Thatll be a blast

  • @YugenDota
    @YugenDota 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, witnessing Fortitude take down Happy as Human is truly mind-blowing! This video's approach of dissecting the game in a casual, educational manner is refreshing.

  • @kyrios0307
    @kyrios0307 19 дней назад

    Lv3 Storm Bolt + Holy Light = Undeads getting a taste of their Coil Nova

  • @Apocnow420
    @Apocnow420 7 месяцев назад +2

    At the end the human was mining mid from a far too.

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 7 месяцев назад +1

    Longer the game goes, stronger human gets. Just draw it out, draw it out.

  • @nfwar7299
    @nfwar7299 6 месяцев назад +1

    It was difficult to ruin 666 likes on this video.

  • @MrVinny333
    @MrVinny333 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fountain kinda kills the balance of the game. Whoever has map control gets even more map control and can't lose to attrition.

    • @damo9961
      @damo9961 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah makes for a different game for sure. Definitely favours some races over others.

    • @JuliaoMota-yq4jn
      @JuliaoMota-yq4jn 7 месяцев назад +1

      Thats why this map is in the pool, diferent strategies can appear more often.

  • @lalsaksjdhfggggs
    @lalsaksjdhfggggs 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love you as caster 😊

  • @DonJulioize
    @DonJulioize 6 месяцев назад

    does grubby ever stop talking? wow

  • @maraseghman2282
    @maraseghman2282 7 месяцев назад +1

    TIL I learned:
    Heavy Armor does not take reduced damage of any type, even tho my 8 year-old ass always thought it takes reduced DMG from something at least... Weird

    • @ernestomarcos0103
      @ernestomarcos0103 7 месяцев назад

      Yea I think it was always neutral against everything outside of Piercing in ROC (which absolutely destroyed stuff like Aboms or Tauren)/Magic in TFT.

    • @TerranEarth
      @TerranEarth 6 месяцев назад

      Huntress had heavy armor back in the day. Peak NE OPness

  • @xpamamadeus
    @xpamamadeus 7 месяцев назад

    @Grubby about flyings vs gargs with vamp aura does not work since they mechanical

  • @-predict7443
    @-predict7443 Месяц назад

    am i the only1 who feels joy in seeing happy lose?

  • @StalkedHuman
    @StalkedHuman 7 месяцев назад

    What you waiting fo fool. Mk opener, fast tech mortars casters pow power. Griffins triple hero. Power

  • @Andrei3111
    @Andrei3111 7 месяцев назад

    so was pretty much an economy hunt!, not that impossible...using every single unit available in succeeding it!

  • @johnny2hands773
    @johnny2hands773 7 месяцев назад

    Who is considered the best wc3 player in the world at the moment? is it Happy?

  • @ericshun3331
    @ericshun3331 7 месяцев назад +2

    ever notice that most of the human race isnt human

    • @GrubbyTalks
      @GrubbyTalks 7 месяцев назад +1

      Immigrants keep this nation err race together

    • @KekzEdition
      @KekzEdition 7 месяцев назад

      so is Orc. in the game they are described as Horde and Alliance though

    • @kyrios0307
      @kyrios0307 19 дней назад

      Human got 3 human units (Peasant/Militia, Footmen, Knight), 4 elven (Priest, Sorcerer, Spellbreaker, Dragonhawk Rider), and 5 dwarves (Riflemen, Gyrocopter, Mortar Team, Siege Engine, Gryphon Rider)

    • @ericshun3331
      @ericshun3331 19 дней назад

      @@kyrios0307 oh

    • @AnhNguyen-qe6rm
      @AnhNguyen-qe6rm День назад

      @@kyrios0307 You can probably say that about every race ...

  • @erichite3398
    @erichite3398 6 месяцев назад

    How does UD get skeletons without necromancer?

  • @MultiSmidi
    @MultiSmidi 7 месяцев назад +1

    i ever thought Grubby is the best player in the world.....

  • @ross1158
    @ross1158 7 месяцев назад

    What's with the spoil title lol :D You do us no good, Manu :D

  • @mrsommer84
    @mrsommer84 7 месяцев назад

    12:12 after losing some flying machines and siege engines Fortitude is below food penalty (below 50 pop)
    14:04 you mention it
    16:40 gryphons have one of the best damage nominal (in numbers) (compare them with windryders upgraded)
    gryphons are worth upgrading (plus the have high hp which wyverns do not have)
    17:51 "a lot of firepower here" :)

    • @mrsommer84
      @mrsommer84 7 месяцев назад

      @@Humanaut.
      I know you're talking about attack speed.
      I know they lack some.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 7 месяцев назад

    Great commentary!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @mojotmn
    @mojotmn 7 месяцев назад

    I'm so glad to see coil nova countered by the staff 🤣

  • @bastymanguy
    @bastymanguy 7 месяцев назад +2

    And of course Happy does his typical leave the game without having a final big battle for fun, unfortunately he has this personality trait where he wants to save face and not look bad losing a huge battle. Hello happy, this game is over 20 years old and you’re over 30 years old, stop acting like this is so important to your reputation.

  • @Fahrenheit41
    @Fahrenheit41 7 месяцев назад

    Happys item luck every game is insane

  • @DuongHoang-yk1ff
    @DuongHoang-yk1ff 7 месяцев назад

    Which platform do u use to play ? Hope someone answer and might I vs with you :D

    • @saimyintmyat9373
      @saimyintmyat9373 7 месяцев назад

      He is currently on journey for Rank 1 on Bnet with all races.

  • @FlowLikeWater429
    @FlowLikeWater429 7 месяцев назад

    Who is Fortitude?

  • @Opus766
    @Opus766 7 месяцев назад +1

    You called it that the flying machines wound up being a buffer for autocast web, keeping the gryphons safe. I wonder how planned out that was.

    • @ThatGuy-js6mu
      @ThatGuy-js6mu 7 месяцев назад +4

      Oh it was absolutely planned. You can see the flying machines head straight into the fiends and they dont even attack.

    • @damo9961
      @damo9961 7 месяцев назад

      Plus it means undead can't just spam destroyers that are gryphon immune

    • @ScorpionChaos69
      @ScorpionChaos69 6 месяцев назад

      yes it made me look closer too, he charged with them first and moved griffs on a third wave after melee units second, so he even saved them from most of the spell damage and made it harder for undead to approach. It looked clean@@ThatGuy-js6mu

  • @lhermite1219
    @lhermite1219 7 месяцев назад +1

    hi! me and my wife have been waiting for the gg for 6 hours by now, do u know when is it arriving?

    • @seanreitmeyer631
      @seanreitmeyer631 7 месяцев назад

      The replays dont include chat. Happy always ggs

  • @wow-x2x
    @wow-x2x 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think humans staff is cool and a skill mechanic…. but it’s kind of OP. night elf’s is even better but takes more skill

    • @TerranEarth
      @TerranEarth 6 месяцев назад

      Hu is like the definition of perseverance, persistence, and resilience. Can heal/save units a lot with staff, priests, and Pala. Brillance aura to regen mana faster. Storm bolt to pick off enemies. Hu army move speed is slow af, but can often out last you in the late game.

  • @lightweightjive
    @lightweightjive 7 месяцев назад +6

    I think staff of tele should be an item restricted to one per player. Maybe each shop only has one, so once one person buys from it, the other needs to buy from the other shop allowing the competitive interaction of purchases to play a role. Using them to return heroes for items and saving low units should be something the requires more careful consideration, and feels more clutch. I believe it to be an item players lean on heavily instead of acquiring better micro and awareness.

    • @eugenekhoo990
      @eugenekhoo990 7 месяцев назад +1

      If you do that HU and NE will be heavily nerfed while UD and Orc unaffected. So in exchange, Orbs of Lightning and Corruption should be heavily nerfed to Orb of Fire's level.

    • @lightweightjive
      @lightweightjive 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@eugenekhoo990 yeah, interesting.. I think you’re definitely on to something.

  • @Beerlust_AUS
    @Beerlust_AUS 7 месяцев назад

    It's not a miracle, it's just deciding to play outside this META BS play style. Well done to the winning player. No I didn't even watch the video. No need to. ^^